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Okay, got a strange question here. I plan on going from the N5 to the unlocked GSM MotoMaker Moto X version. All I want is root with stock recovery (don't really care for a custom recovery, plus I'd like to still receive OTAs). Can I unlock the Moto X bootloader, load TWRP recovery (instead of flash), and then install SuperSU? Or do I *have* to flash TWRP to achieve root?
correct me if im wrong, but I think you can "unlock the Moto X bootloader, load TWRP recovery (instead of flash), and then install SuperSU".
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use one of the methods in the original android development section to achieve root.
c19932 said:
correct me if im wrong, but I think you can "unlock the Moto X bootloader, load TWRP recovery (instead of flash), and then install SuperSU".
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use one of the methods in the original android development section to achieve root.
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Yes, I've looked at those threads. However, in 4.4, a backdoor needs to be introduced in order to maintain root. I'd rather not have to do that and I don't mind unlocking bootloaders. This will be my first, non-Nexus device in awhile, so I just wanted to make sure I can just unlocked the bootloader, load a custom recovery, flash SuperSU and then just have root.
TheCuban said:
Yes, I've looked at those threads. However, in 4.4, a backdoor needs to be introduced in order to maintain root. I'd rather not have to do that and I don't mind unlocking bootloaders. This will be my first, non-Nexus device in awhile, so I just wanted to make sure I can just unlocked the bootloader, load a custom recovery, flash SuperSU and then just have root.
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Just unlock your boot loader, flash twrp recovery and finally flash supersu and you're good to go. Ota's can not be accepted and flashed with root or custom recovery on the moto
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flashallthetime said:
Just unlock your boot loader, flash twrp recovery and finally flash supersu and you're good to go. Ota's can not be accepted and flashed with root or custom recovery on the moto
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Thanks! That's what I thought! I didn't know that root removed the ability to accept OTAs?
TheCuban said:
Thanks! That's what I thought! I didn't know that root removed the ability to accept OTAs?
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On the moto yes, nexus devices are a different beast
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Hi I am planing my first root and I am honestly a little confused. I am on TMobile with 4.4 KitKat (Moto X).
I understand how to unlock the Bootloader and that I need to install TWRP before I can activate SU.
I am just not sure about the bugs (if any) with TWRP and what version to use.
The reason for my concern is on the TWRP website the Moto X is not listed as a supported device.
Is this video Tutorial still valid - is this how to do it with 4.4 KitKat?
And is this the latest version that works (what are the known bugs)?
Hi this is a pretty simple question but if someone could expand (if it is possible) by listing what needs to be done that'd be extremely helpful.
I read through the guides in the general section and i read that for at&t 4.4.2 the bootloader is locked and attempting to downgrade will brick my phone. So does this mean that i can't root my phone and flash roms? or can I, and if so what needs to be done before I download a toolkit and proceed? I'm on stock at&t OTA 4.4.2 firmware.
thanks for reading.
Heisenberg420 said:
Hi this is a pretty simple question but if someone could expand (if it is possible) by listing what needs to be done that'd be extremely helpful.
I read through the guides in the general section and i read that for at&t 4.4.2 the bootloader is locked and attempting to downgrade will brick my phone. So does this mean that i can't root my phone and flash roms? or can I, and if so what needs to be done before I download a toolkit and proceed? I'm on stock at&t OTA 4.4.2 firmware.
thanks for reading.
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without an unlocked bootloader, your out of luck. You might be able to "safestrap," but last i heard, that isn't an option on OS 4.4.2.
You will need to unlock your bootloader to flash any roms. Unfortunately there is no official way to unlock your bootloader for an AT&T branded Moto X. Since you are on 4.4.2 safestrap is also not an option. There is currently a root method for 4.4.2, but it doesn't disable write protection. Disabling write protection is required to make any permanent changes to the system. Without that ability any changes will revert back after rebooting. This includes root since that requires modifying the system. There is an unofficial way to unlock your bootloader through a Chinese middleman that has acquired databases with unlock codes. There is no guarantee that this person will have your code and seems to only be able to acquire codes from devices assembled in 2014. The middleman is selling the codes for ~$45. The information is at the following link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/china-middleman-t2751177
If you want to try rooting you can try the method from the following link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/orig-development/root-4-4-x-pie-motorola-devices-t2771623
Sent from my Moto X.
Dark9781 said:
You will need to unlock your bootloader to flash any roms. Unfortunately there is no official way to unlock your bootloader for an AT&T branded Moto X. Since you are on 4.4.2 safestrap is also not an option. There is currently a root method for 4.4.2, but it doesn't disable write protection. Disabling write protection is required to make any permanent changes to the system. Without that ability any changes will revert back after rebooting. This includes root since that requires modifying the system. There is an unofficial way to unlock your bootloader through a Chinese middleman that has acquired databases with unlock codes. There is no guarantee that this person will have your code and seems to only be able to acquire codes from devices assembled in 2014. The middleman is selling the codes for ~$45. The information is at the following link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/china-middleman-t2751177
If you want to try rooting you can try the method from the following link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/orig-development/root-4-4-x-pie-motorola-devices-t2771623
Sent from my Moto X.
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thanks for the info.
the main reason i'm trying to flash a ROM is I lost rear camera functionality just randomly. Haven't found anyone else with this issue. Can I download the 4.4.3 OTA and flash it in the stock recovery? Or will I have problems with that?
Heisenberg420 said:
thanks for the info.
the main reason i'm trying to flash a ROM is I lost rear camera functionality just randomly. Haven't found anyone else with this issue. Can I download the 4.4.3 OTA and flash it in the stock recovery? Or will I have problems with that?
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The 4.4.3 is for T-Mobile and unlocked bootloaders. If it is just your rear camera having an issue you could try a factory reset or flashing the stock ROM for AT&T for 4.4.2 using RSDLite. If that doesn't work it may be a hardware problem. You may want to try a warranty exchange.
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I am running a Verizon Moto X still on 4.2.2. I am rooted. This is NOT the Dev edition. I have plenty of experience with rooting/flashing these phones so back when I first got it the directions on rooting/flashing roms was VERY vague. No one specified you needed the Dev edition to unlock the boot loader. Well I think this came from at one point when I tried to flash TWRP (maybe). Either way, I want to take the OTA update and cannot. Does anyone know how to fix this without doing the RSD, reflash stock method? Here is a picture of what it looks like (thanks for your help in advance):
You should check out the 'Chinese Middleman' thread. If you get the bootloader unlocked you should be able to fix anything.
I can't unlock the bootloader since this is not a Dev edition. Unless something has changed, I'll check it.
You should be able to unlock the boot loader but will not have warranty.
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/unlock-your-device-a
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shamelin73 said:
You should be able to unlock the boot loader but will not have warranty.
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/unlock-your-device-a
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Even though it's not a Dev edition?
Yes you should be able too.
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Even though it's not a Dev edition?
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All XT1053s can be unlocked, yes. Additionally, if you follow my advice, you don't NEED to unlock. If one of the commands fails, simply skip to the next as I previously advised, and TRY flashing with RSD Lite after you have run the commands I listed.
If you want to check and make sure fastboot is working, type:
fastboot devices
if you see your phone and it's serial number listed, you fastboot IS properly communicating with your phone.
You do not need to unlock your BL to do any of this...but if you are interested in ROOTING, you will need to.
All I really want to do is make it so my phone can take the update and any future updates. What do you mean as you previously stated?
shamelin73 said:
You should be able to unlock the boot loader but will not have warranty.
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/unlock-your-device-a
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I tried this as I did before and I get "your device does not qualify for bootloader unlocking". All I need to know is how to fix this from someone.
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All I really want to do is make it so my phone can take the update and any future updates. What do you mean as you previously stated?
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I confused you with a member I had helped previously - sorry. Please disregard the "previously stated" comment.
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I tried this as I did before and I get "your device does not qualify for bootloader unlocking". All I need to know is how to fix this from someone.
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It does NOT require unlocking the bootloader to flash your carrier's correct ROM. Simply follow the instructions in the "Return to 100% Stock" thread to flash the XT1053 ROM, and you'll be able to take all future updates.
If you DO unlock the bootloader, flash custom recovery, and root your device, you will have to un-do any modifications made before EVERY OTA. If you don't care about root, don't worry about unlocking.
Additionally, if you DO want to unlock, you could try a different browser and make sure you are inputting the unlock data correctly. It is recommended that you copy the unlock data from the command prompt to notepad, remove all spaces and bootloader messages (you ONLY want the code - as one complete string), then copy from notepad into the Unlock website.
And finally, keep in mind that unless you unlock your BL, you will not be able to root and disable write-protect once you update to the latest version.
The real problem here is that you use an "Exploit" to root your device previously. Now you need to return to full stock to restore your partitions to their factory state.
Simply follow the instructions in the Return to stock thread (in general sub-forum), and be sure to flash the LATEST version for your carrier. It should be 4.4.3.
Good Luck.
samwathegreat said:
I confused you with a member I had helped previously - sorry. Please disregard the "previously stated" comment.
It does NOT require unlocking the bootloader to flash your carrier's correct ROM. Simply follow the instructions in the "Return to 100% Stock" thread to flash the XT1053 ROM, and you'll be able to take all future updates.
If you DO unlock the bootloader, flash custom recovery, and root your device, you will have to un-do any modifications made before EVERY OTA. If you don't care about root, don't worry about unlocking.
Additionally, if you DO want to unlock, you could try a different browser and make sure you are inputting the unlock data correctly. It is recommended that you copy the unlock data from the command prompt to notepad, remove all spaces and bootloader messages (you ONLY want the code - as one complete string), then copy from notepad into the Unlock website.
And finally, keep in mind that unless you unlock your BL, you will not be able to root and disable write-protect once you update to the latest version.
The real problem here is that you use an "Exploit" to root your device previously. Now you need to return to full stock to restore your partitions to their factory state.
Simply follow the instructions in the Return to stock thread (in general sub-forum), and be sure to flash the LATEST version for your carrier. It should be 4.4.3.
Good Luck.
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So if I am reading this correctly, there is no way to keep all of my data and take the update?
danman421 said:
So if I am reading this correctly, there is no way to keep all of my data and take the update?
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You can attempt to, by either editing the XML in the SBF and removing the line that says "erase userdata", or by skipping the erase userdata if you use the manual method, but either way CAN mess everything up.
You used an EXPLOIT previously. Any time you use an exploit, you should -expect- to have to wipe everything and re-install from scratch if you want to get back to stock in order to be able to take updates. Keep this in mind if you use any exploits in the future.
Hi! This hasn't seemed to spelled out yet..... But many Moto x's can be unlocked, not just dev editions. However, you stated in the opening post that you have a Verizon Non dev, which can not be unlocked. Only way is to pay the "China middleman" (See thread in general with that name).
And personally.... I would stay on 4.2.2 and do the Slapmymoto method to get root and write protection disabled. That is the best root scenario, aside from unlocking the bootloader.
If you update to 4.4.2 or higher, you will have write protection enabled always, and no root, or sorta root with towelroot and pie. But that will limit what you can do.
See the How do I root my phone sticky thread in general for your options.
I should have posted earlier. I ran RSDLite and put the newest version on. I am unrooted. My Moto X is a Sept '13 version the the middleman probably wont work anyways. Its not worth it with this phone, im tired of the rooting, I guess im at that point in my life... Thanks for all your help though guys!
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I am running a Verizon Moto X still on 4.2.2. I am rooted. This is NOT the Dev edition. I have plenty of experience with rooting/flashing these phones so back when I first got it the directions on rooting/flashing roms was VERY vague. No one specified you needed the Dev edition to unlock the boot loader. Well I think this came from at one point when I tried to flash TWRP (maybe). Either way, I want to take the OTA update and cannot. Does anyone know how to fix this without doing the RSD, reflash stock method? Here is a picture of what it looks like (thanks for your help in advance):
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Pardon my jumping in here late but..
I see a big issue here.
Based on that screen shot, you have boot loader 30.B4, that is NOT the bootloader that comes wtih 4.2.2. Did you mean to type 4.4.2? or do you really have 4.2.2 on there?
If you really had 4.2.2 on your phone with a 30.B4 bootloader, then you had 4.4.2 on there at one point, and downgraded!! You need to be REALLY CAREFUL or you will brick your phone.
You are correct, I was on 4.4.2. My wife's S4 that I just upgraded was on 4.2.2. Sorry for the confusion.
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Pardon my jumping in here late but..
I see a big issue here.
Based on that screen shot, you have boot loader 30.B4, that is NOT the bootloader that comes wtih 4.2.2. Did you mean to type 4.4.2? or do you really have 4.2.2 on there?
If you really had 4.2.2 on your phone with a 30.B4 bootloader, then you had 4.4.2 on there at one point, and downgraded!! You need to be REALLY CAREFUL or you will brick your phone.
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Good catch! ?
OP... Perhaps full disclosure of what you have done on the phone would help.
Or is that how it was?
If it's been downgraded to 4.2.2 after being on 4.4.2... As said above.... You could brick now... Especially if you OTA.
I'd tread lightly at this point.
danman421 said:
You are correct, I was on 4.4.2. My wife's S4 that I just upgraded was on 4.2.2. Sorry for the confusion.
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so based on post # 14 of this post... it appears you are all good now? is that the case? Or do you still need help?
Oh, and if your bootloader is locked (Verizon non-DE), you can't get code from China Middle man, and you are on 4.4.2, you could try TowelPieRoot for rooting, but write protection is enabled so it will be kind of limited (compared to SlapMyMoto/MotoWPNoMO or if you had an unlocked bootloader), and there is no root for 4.4.4.
Yes, that was a good catch. What I did was RSD Lite to 4.4.4 now which reset all my data.
KidJoe said:
so based on post # 14 of this post... it appears you are all good now? is that the case? Or do you still need help?
Oh, and if your bootloader is locked (Verizon non-DE), you can't get code from China Middle man, and you are on 4.4.2, you could try TowelPieRoot for rooting, but write protection is enabled so it will be kind of limited (compared to SlapMyMoto/MotoWPNoMO or if you had an unlocked bootloader), and there is no root for 4.4.4.
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Correct, I do not need help anymore but thank you.
I had a Moto X that I unlocked via the China seller, and it's being replaced because it's bricked. is there a way to put roms on a locked device? or can I unlock the bootloader again for cheap? I paid roughly 40 dollars for it last time.
jcase has a thread for using an exploit to root your phone without unlocking the bootloader. It can be found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/orig-development/root-write-protection-bypass-motox-t2444957
NOTE: Please read the entire jcase link so you understand the risk/process!
Is there a reason why you want a custom ROM? It's certainly your choice, and respectable but if you're looking for minor tweaks to make it look different you may just want to try the GravityBox module with the Xposed Framework. That way you can just worry about rooting your phone, and then tweaking everything else to your liking after that.
I enjoy PA pie along with halo, PA has the best pie controls in my opinion. So it seems they sent me a moto x on 4.4.2, is my only option pie root than using safestrap? Or what is the best way to go about putting a ROM on this?
ovismos said:
jcase has a thread for using an exploit to root your phone without unlocking the bootloader. It can be found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/orig-development/root-write-protection-bypass-motox-t2444957
NOTE: Please read the entire jcase link so you understand the risk/process!
Is there a reason why you want a custom ROM? It's certainly your choice, and respectable but if you're looking for minor tweaks to make it look different you may just want to try the GravityBox module with the Xposed Framework. That way you can just worry about rooting your phone, and then tweaking everything else to your liking after that.
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^^^
scottshebs said:
^^^
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You'll need a way to get a custom recovery running to install the ROM. TBH, I have a Dev Edition VZW Moto X, so all I do is unlock my bootloader.
Having that being said it looks (from what I read!) like Safestrap allows you to use a custom recovery, in addition of making nandroids and such. From what you're telling me, it pretty much looks like the way to go.
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You'll need a way to get a custom recovery running to install the ROM. TBH, I have a Dev Edition VZW Moto X, so all I do is unlock my bootloader.
Having that being said it looks (from what I read!) like Safestrap allows you to use a custom recovery, in addition of making nandroids and such. From what you're telling me, it pretty much looks like the way to go.
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Would the 4.4.2 pie root work? It says it does not disable write protection and it is a tethered root.
Right. And safestrap won't work on 4.4.2.
So no, unless you unlock the bootloader again, you won't be able to flash a custom rom or recovery unfortunately.
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Would the 4.4.2 pie root work? It says it does not disable write protection and it is a tethered root.
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It doesn't look like it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/moto-x-qa/att-moto-x-rooting-long-term-effects-t2854742
From KidJoe in that post:
"As for safestrap, I don't use it since I have a Dev Edition and unlocked my bootloader. There are some threads and discussions over on Rootzwiki.com BUT you will need to be rooted with write protection disabled to use SafeStrap... Since you are now on 4.4.2, you can't disable write protection, so safestrap is out. "
So I think customer recovery is out unless you get a bootloader unlocked. And without custom recovery, you wouldn't be able to do a custom ROM.
You can still root the stock ROM though! That's what the PIE method will do. Don't think that will give you custom recovery.
Also, you want TowelPieRoot. Not either individually. That will give you root, but not disabled write protection. So mostly it's only useful for certain apps to be used.
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Right. And safestrap won't work on 4.4.2.
So no, unless you unlock the bootloader again, you won't be able to flash a custom rom or recovery unfortunately.
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Beat me to it.
ovismos said:
Beat me to it.
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So I'm basically ****ed. Any possible way to downgrade to 4.4?
KJ said:
Also, you want TowelPieRoot. Not either individually. That will give you root, but not disabled write protection. So mostly it's only useful for certain apps to be used.
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So I'm basically ****ed. Any possible way to downgrade to 4.4?
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Downgrading is a dangerous thing on the X... It can easily end up in a brick, or other issues... Or a brick later.
No one who knows how this phone works ever recommends downgrading.
So no.... You are out of luck right now.
You can try the Middleman again... Or wait for a Possible exploit maybe being released, sometime.
But most advise not to upgrade either until this exploit that maybe will come out comes out. In vase 4.4.4 is incompatible with it.
It will also cost you money though.
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BTW, mixing the dangerous on its own downgrading with slapmymoto and safestrap is a definite recipe for disaster.
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So I'm basically ****ed. Any possible way to downgrade to 4.4?
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Not the parts that matter when it comes to disabling write protection on a locked boot loader phone, and certainly not safely for the rest of the Roms.
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KidJoe said:
No.
For ALL Developer Editions Moto X, and some carrier editions (Like T-Mobile, Sprint, Rogers and others), Motorola freely gives away the BootLoader Unlock codes when requested On Motorola's Web SIte. In the case of the Non-Developer Editions, it voids their warranty to request the code. However, for some carriers (like ATT, Verizon and republic Wireless in the USA) motorola does not give out the unlock code.
So when you get your X, try to get the unlock code from Moto's web site. Then....
If you can get the code, and unlock the bootloader, you can root and disable write protection no matter what ROM is on your phone.
If you can NOT unlock your bootloader, and you are on 4.4.2 you can use TowelPieRoot to root (but write protection is still enabled).
If you can NOT unlock your bootloader, and your are on 4.4.4 you can not root.
If you can NOT unlock your bootloader, and by some miracle your phone is still on 4.4 (aka 4.4.0) or below, you can look at SlapMyMoto and MotoWpNoMo to root and disable write protection. HOWEVER, once you upgrade you will lose write protection, and be subject to the above conditions on rooting depending on your ROM version
And no, if you are on 4.4.4 you can NOT fully downgrade to 4.4.2 or lower. If you are on 4.4.2 you can NOT fully downgrade to 4.4 (aka 4.4.0) or lower! If you try, you will likely brick your phone or set it up to brick with future OTA's.
EDIT: And if Moto's web site doesn't give out your bootloader unlock code, you MIGHT have a chance using the China Middleman (see the thread in the general section). If its available and you can purchase that way, you can then unlock your bootloader exactly as if you got the code from Moto's own web site and follow any instructions as if you got the code from moto. The only difference is where you got the code, and how much it cost.
If you decide to go the China Middleman route, see -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/china-middleman-t2751177/post52648309
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oh and about safestrap, it needs write protection disabled to install. Something that can only be done on 4.4.0 and 4.2.2 with camera fix Roms if you have a locked boot loader
KidJoe said:
Not the parts that matter when it comes to disabling write protection on a locked boot loader phone, and certainly not safely for the rest of the Roms.
Rather than retype...
oh and about safestrap, it needs write protection disabled to install. Something that can only be done on 4.4.0 and 4.2.2 with camera fix Roms if you have a locked boot loader
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So if I towelpieroot I could use xposed for the time being?
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So if I towelpieroot I could use xposed for the time being?
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Seems people have trouble getting Xposed to work. Read through that thread about it.
Hello,
I got my Moto X few days back from America, its Verizon model (I live in Europe)
its not developer edition and bootloader is locked
...and first issue i noticed is when i try to reset to factory with power UP + DOWN volume i couldnt get recovery.. when i go to recovery settings i see moto logo and then verizon picture.. there is no "dead android" and phone boots normaly.
...second thing there was android 4.4 on it and i got notifications to update it, so i was like why not, lets do it... and after i decided to update, phone keeps rebooting itself, and i dont know what to do it stays awake like 10-20sec and reboot again. Cant belive i bricked it that way!
Phone seems that its not rooted or anything, but idk maybe it was and then back to stock.. Is there any solution?
Thanks in advance to any1 who can help me slove the problem
Cheers
Resurrecting A Bricked Moto X
drvoje said:
Hello,
I got my Moto X few days back from America, its Verizon model (I live in Europe)
its not developer edition and bootloader is locked
...and first issue i noticed is when i try to reset to factory with power UP + DOWN volume i couldnt get recovery.. when i go to recovery settings i see moto logo and then verizon picture.. there is no "dead android" and phone boots normaly.
...second thing there was android 4.4 on it and i got notifications to update it, so i was like why not, lets do it... and after i decided to update, phone keeps rebooting itself, and i dont know what to do it stays awake like 10-20sec and reboot again. Cant belive i bricked it that way!
Phone seems that its not rooted or anything, but idk maybe it was and then back to stock.. Is there any solution?
Thanks in advance to any1 who can help me slove the problem
Cheers
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Try this http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/how-to-resurrecting-bricked-moto-x-t2629057
Is there any way to try to delete chache or factory reset before flashing to stock rom
drvoje said:
Is there any way to try to delete chache or factory reset before flashing to custom rom
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If its not the developer edition for Verizon, the bootloader is likely locked, so you can NOT flash custom roms (unless you, or a previous owner, got a bootloader unlock code from the China Middleman and used it)
Did you buy the phone used, or new? If used, then it is possible that it was rooted using RockMyMoto, SlapMyMoto or the like... and the boot loop while trying to install an update could be due to that. If so, erasing cache will stop the boot loop. This can be done from stock recovery, or when in Bootloader/FastbootAP mode.
How to Boot into recovery -> http://mark.cdmaforums.com/MotoX-EnterStockRecovery.htm
If that doesn't work, try bootloader/fastboot....
How to get a working AndroidSDK/PlatformTools/ADB/Mfastboot setup -> http://mark.cdmaforums.com/ADB.htm
How to boot the phone into fastboot mode -> http://mark.cdmaforums.com/MotoX-BootloaderMode.htm
from your PC, do a mfastboot erase cache
to reboot the phone, mfastboot reboot
Optionally, you could do a mfastboot erase userdata before rebooting, to remove all data, apps, etc.
If erasing cache fixes the boot loop, you might just want to try using RSDLite and reflashing the STOCK rom, recovery, etc. (Download the Verizon 4.4.4 SBF from -> http://sbf.droid-developers.org/phone.php?device=0 then follow -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/guide-moto-x-return-to-100-stock-using-t2446515 ) It would undo anything that was done to root your device, and put you back to factory fresh. The only reason not to, would be if you care about rooting and disabling write protection..
With a locked bootloader, If your phone is still on 4.4 (aka 4.4.0), and still has that older bootloader and gpt.bin, you could use SlapMyMoto to root, and MotoWpNoMo to disable write protection. Just don't take any updates. You could cause a bootloop, but more importantly it will re-enable write protection with no way to disable it again (unless you can unlock the bootloader).
Once your phone is on 4.4.2 or above, you can't properly downgrade the ROM, bootloader and gpt.bin to use the exploits used by SlapMyMoto/MotoWpNoMo. There is a TowelPieRoot which is a temp root that works on 4.4.2. Temp root in the fact that it doesn't survive power off/on, so it needs to be redone each time. Also it doesn't disable write protection, so any changes made to /system or the like are also lost at power off/on (aka hard boot).
Once on 4.4.4, you can't properly downgrade the ROM, bootloader and gpt.bin, and there are no exploits to root, and no way to disable write protection.
If you can use the China Middleman thread to get a bootloader unlock code, then you don't need to worry about the exploits, and you can then root and disable write protection just as if you had a developer edition. Also JCASE may be updating their Sunshine tool to use the exploit found by Dan Rosenberg to unlock the bootloader on the Moto X, but there is no exact date yet of when it will be available (so far "next few weeks" has been said, but nothing more specific), and there is discussion around will it work for those who took the 4.4.4 update or not (no confirmation yet either way).
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[*]How to get a working AndroidSDK/PlatformTools/ADB/Mfastboot setup ->
[*]How to boot the phone into fastboot mode ->
[*]from your PC, do a mfastboot erase cache
[*]to reboot the phone, mfastboot reboot
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did this with mfastboot image and worked like charm
bdw now i will need some time reading what is best to do with my unlockable bootloader verizon phone, if u have any sugestions please let me know.
and tnx for the help again mate
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bdw now i will need some time reading what is best to do with my unlockable bootloader verizon phone, if u have any sugestions please let me know.
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You said its a verizon phone, but not the developer edition..
So at this point, the only way to unlock the bootloader is the China Middleman thread (in the general section). When JCASE updates Sunshine for the X (in the coming week or two), you can try that.
Otherwise, there isn't anything you can do.
and for stock android update? which one is the best for moto x? now it is 4.4.0
shall i rsd lite it to 4.4.2 or 4.4.4 or just stay current one?
bdw i need to rsd lite frimware anyway if i plan to use OTA update again perhaps when android L come? For now i just keep ignoring them
and yes its NOT developer edition phone
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and for stock android update? which one is the best for moto x? now it is 4.4.0
shall i rsd lite it to 4.4.2 or 4.4.4 or just stay current one?
bdw i need to rsd lite frimware anyway if i plan to use OTA update again perhaps when android L come? For now i just keep ignoring them
and yes its NOT developer edition phone
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THe best depends on what you want to do.
Like I said before. IF you have 4.4 (aka 4.4.0) on the phone, and NEVER had anything newer on there (not 4.4.2 or 4.4.4), then stay there, look at SlapMyMoto and MotoWpNoMo to root and disable write protection.
Once you get 4.4.2 on there, you can root, but its temp root, and write protection can NOT be disabled.
4.4.4 you can't root.
Other than that, I can't say I really find too much difference. The camera is better in 4.4.4, but the battery isn't performing as well lately (could be a recent app update).
can i do this on my phone now - without fear of bricking it:
from my pc to run mfastboot again
then to clear chache
then to delete all user data
then to use rsd lite and flash Android 4.4
Blur_Version.140.45.5.ghost_verizon.Verizon.en.US even i alrdy have 4.4 now?
..because i dont know what is done to my phone before and i want to make sure its like "new" device
i know i can not downgrade, but can i flash same frimware? just to make sure thats all stock again
bdw Im stll unable to enter recovery after fastboot :/ is it that because of locked bootloeader? or because it was rooted with any method? i cant find superuser
and then to wait for solution to unlock bootleader?
Thanks in advance
You can always re-flash the same rom that is on your phone.
You just never want to down grade, or flash something older than what is on your phone.
As for not being able to enter Stock Recovery... early versions of the RockMyMoto and such did a trick which made it so that when you picked boot to recovery, it booted to regular system with write protection disabled. If that was used on your phone before you purchased it, that could be the issue. Using RSDLite and flashing back to 100% stock will undo that.
But You never answered if you got the phone new or used.
IF new, then you have some other issue (either you're not doing it right, or there is something wrong with the phone).
If used, you don't know what was done before you received it. Someone might have rooted, etc.. then just removed SuperSU to appear non-rooted when selling, rather than flashing back to stock.
thanks for the reply...
yes phone is used before but same like new... and what i found that phone was rooted by some method.. i made this screenshots, look in attachment..
bdw i dont see super su anywhere in apps? how to remove?
and i got everything rdy to flash it, i was just waiting you to conform if its doable...
and what did u mean by this:
"With a locked bootloader, If your phone is still on 4.4 (aka 4.4.0), and still has that older bootloader and gpt.bin, you could use SlapMyMoto to root, and MotoWpNoMo to disable write protection. Just don't take any updates. You could cause a bootloop, but more importantly it will re-enable write protection with no way to disable it again (unless you can unlock the bootloader)."
is that what happened to me?
and have question about one more thing
my country does not support lte and in my region 3g is bad... i have stable signal all the time but i would like to use edge only (GSM), can i do that using some widgets and if can which ones?
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thanks for the reply...
yes phone is used before but same like new... and what i found that phone was rooted by some method.. i found this screenshot in phone, look in attachment..
bdw i dont see super su anywhere in apps? how to remove?
and i got everything rdy to flash it, i was just waiting you to conform if its doable...
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If you mean you don't see a SuperSU icon in the app drawer, then they probably un-installed SuperSU before selling it rather than completely unrooting. If you mean you have an icon in the app drawer, but don't see it to uninstall under Settings -> Apps.. I don't know why that would be.
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and what did u mean by this:
"With a locked bootloader, If your phone is still on 4.4 (aka 4.4.0), and still has that older bootloader and gpt.bin, you could use SlapMyMoto to root, and MotoWpNoMo to disable write protection. Just don't take any updates. You could cause a bootloop, but more importantly it will re-enable write protection with no way to disable it again (unless you can unlock the bootloader)."
is that what happened to me?
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Yes, that could be what happened to you. There are many reports of locked bootloader users who used those older root processes who then upgraded using the OTA from 4.4 to 4.4.2 that encountered bootloops and other issues. It was often recomended to reflash to 100% stock.
And what I meant is that if you are on 4.4 (aka 4.4.0) with all its parts, it is vulnerable and the older exploits can still be used to root and disable write protection without unlocking your bootloader. Search for SlapMyMoto for more details. Some people tried to be cute and mix/match parts which caused issues. Mostly the issues around downgrading are caused by GPT.BIN and Motoboot.IMG parts, their versions, if they've been upgraded and no longer match the rest of the rom on the phone, etc. (and that is a LONG story...)
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and have question about one more thing
my country does not support lte and in my region 3g is bad... i have stable signal all the time but i would like to use edge only (GSM), can i do that using some widgets and if can which ones?
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You can TRY using something like LTE On/Off to open the hidden menu and set for GSM Auto (PRL) or LTE GSM Auto(PRL). I'm not sure which would work best.
Oh, and as for unlocking the bootloader, I've mentioned the China Middleman and JCASE's Sunshine so there are the links to read up if you want to do it.
The China Middleman is just like if you got the code directly from Moto. I don't know what the Jcase tool is like yet.
thanks again!
so i dont see a SuperSU icon in the app drawer - uninstalled probably and that is why i can not enter stock recovery
I am still on android 4.4 didnt do anything yet...
what u recommend me to do? to rsd lite it to 4.4 again? right?
than i will root my device
and about bootloader, my device is 9.2013, so i will wait JCASE's Sunshine and support him
ps. wiget works gr8 :good:
Just want to write some words, i just took jcase tool which is very easy to setup (made for noobs like me) and i got bootloader UNLOCKED on my verizon NON developer edition phone
and now i RSD lite to 4.4 stock rom
would like to hear from KidJoe what is best to do with my moto x now thanks
Now you can update to 4.4.4,whichever methods you want, and still root it. Done. ?
drvoje said:
Just want to write some words, i just took jcase tool which is very easy to setup (made for noobs like me) and i got bootloader UNLOCKED on my verizon NON developer edition phone
and now i RSD lite to 4.4 stock rom
would like to hear from KidJoe what is best to do with my moto x now thanks
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Follow [mention]@KJ[/mention] 's advice and update to 4.4.4, and follow the Dev Edition or Unlocked Bootloader guides to rooting (flash the latest TWRP and root.)