Does anyone know, if the windows phone 8.1 will support active background tasks for in call recording?
I am so desperate for a decent call recorder like for the old windows mobile 6.X, android or symbian. IMHO this lack of support for that feature is the killer reason, why many people are not buying one windows phone device.
Any news on this topic would be appreciated.
q2956 said:
Does anyone know, if the windows phone 8.1 will support active background tasks for in call recording?
I am so desperate for a decent call recorder like for the old windows mobile 6.X, android or symbian. IMHO this lack of support for that feature is the killer reason, why many people are not buying one windows phone device.
Any news on this topic would be appreciated.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I highly doubt this is a the reason for a slow uptake in WP usage, but in any case, I have two things to say;
Q & A forum
Search
I don't believe third party apps will ever get capabilities to do such a thing. Also, a reason to not offer it directly from Microsoft, call recording is illegal in many countries.
th0mas96 said:
I don't believe third party apps will ever get capabilities to do such a thing. Also, a reason to not offer it directly from Microsoft, call recording is illegal in many countries.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
in many countries like Saudi Arabia women cant drive a car becouse this is illegal, so why Nokia DRIVE is there?
Calls recording have all business phones on the earth so this future must be in Windows Phone 8.1
ggg000 said:
in many countries like Saudi Arabia women cant drive a car becouse this is illegal, so why Nokia DRIVE is there?
Calls recording have all business phones on the earth so this future must be in Windows Phone 8.1
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Because men can use it, what a strange thing to sayy, anyhow,
Call recording laws would affect everyone, not just one gender. In the uk as long as one party is aware of recording taking place its legal, ie unless you have a court order you can't listen to someone else's phone call. Which would allow call recording software. However, wp may not allow a sandboxed app to have access to this feature. I also doubt very much its a must have killer feature. Yes it would be nice but its a non essential feature for average users.
As far as I can tell direct recording of a call on the phone itself isn't supported by iOS either. All Apps that support it there require you to add a special service to the phone call as in a conference call so that the recording can be done there.
StevieBallz said:
As far as I can tell direct recording of a call on the phone itself isn't supported by iOS either. All Apps that support it there require you to add a special service to the phone call as in a conference call so that the recording can be done there.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yep, iOS doesn't support it at all (unless you jailbreak it, but the only tweak has a voice message in the beginning of the call to inform the caller that he's being recorded - due to legal problems). So from the "major" 3 OSes, only android supports call recording. And I doubt it's officially supported by the OEMs/Google, it's more likely because android is a way more open OS.
And that is the reason why in don't buy a WP Phone.
I register calls with my Androïd device not to spy people but to register important informations i can't write during the call since i am driving.
Be efficient not suspicious.
Because wou may kill anybody with a knife the kives are forbidden ? Stupid.
And so i don't appreciate Microsoft decides for us what is right and what is wrong. :laugh:
PMD said:
And that is the reason why in don't buy a WP Phone.
I register calls with my Androïd device not to spy people but to register important informations i can't write during the call since i am driving.
Be efficient not suspicious.
Because wou may kill anybody with a knife the kives are forbidden ? Stupid.
And so i don't appreciate Microsoft decides for us what is right and what is wrong. :laugh:
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The law is the law you know...in my country you have to notify the all parties involved in the call that you are recording it, and you can easily get in jail if you record calls without express permission from all parties, every time you record.
and your analogy with the knife is kinda stupid: if you go outside your house with a knife you are likely to get in jail for a few days too.
Microsoft didn't decide anything: they obey the laws.
So so Google doesn't obey the laws? Why they didn't sue it if it's illegal? windows phone is not so popular due to these weird decisions from MIcrosoft.that's why I'm sticking with Android all the time.
It is written already that there is no Android Call recorder on any phone, but there r apps that can do this, because on Android u can do whatever u like. 4 me personally, this feature isn't something I cannot live without, and I am using my brains to remember stuff.
http://www.windowsphone.com/en-gb/s...ne-calls/51eed9ae-193f-41aa-b08b-51eb6dec52fa
http://www.windowsphone.com/en-gb/store/app/call-recorder-pro/7f16d4e8-c64f-441b-8aa6-008675d213b4
All,
Please do not argue on here. Responding to 7 month old posts and beginning arguments over it isn't constructive in the least bit. Yes, in some countries call recording is illegal. If there's an accompanying store app that allows for it in a specific region, then that's fine. If you can't get it on your phone, then I'm sorry you can't.
The answer is: It's legal on a country by country basis. There's no need to yell back at each other over the legitimacy of it. As even certain Android Roms have call recording functionality within them, it's fine. It's not breaking any copyright laws.
If posts continue to be non constructive, this thread will be closed .
spavlin said:
http://www.windowsphone.com/en-gb/s...ne-calls/51eed9ae-193f-41aa-b08b-51eb6dec52fa
http://www.windowsphone.com/en-gb/store/app/call-recorder-pro/7f16d4e8-c64f-441b-8aa6-008675d213b4
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Those apps are only for wp 7x not for wp8.
When the phone detecting a recordingapp during a
call the mic just shutsdown.
Data Compliance
In the UK, we absolutely MUST have call recording and the facility to archive an entire time / date stamped SMS text thread IF the phone is used for customer contact in the public sector. As things stand, WP8.1 is not compliant as a managed device and, if the aforementioned services are used for business purposes, it could render the organisation subject to prosecution. Admittedly, some organisations in the UK don't realise their exposure. In the UK, we can record voice calls all day long as one party is aware. If both parties are aware, the voice recording becomes submissable as court evidence. How does the US get around data compliance with WP 8.1 on voice calls and SMS when it's illegal to record phone calls in the US without consent?
I don't know if WP is used in the public sector yet. I think that's still mostly Blackberries (for official use, I mean), honestly.
Also, much of the US is one-party consent. The problem arises when one of the parties is in a place where it's two-party consent. Thus, in the US, virtually every official call begins with a recorded message (before a human picks up) stating that the call may be monitored or recorded.
Back to the technical stuff, the only way I know of to do call recording on WP8 right now is via a conference call to a recorder, or possibly by using something like a headset (wired or Bluetooth) that records the audio traffic in each direction. The OS itself doesn't allow it. This could presumably be fixed with sufficiently-high-privilege homebrew, but so far as I know nobody has even attempted to get started on that yet.
Call recording WP8
GoodDayToDie said:
I don't know if WP is used in the public sector yet. I think that's still mostly Blackberries (for official use, I mean), honestly.
Also, much of the US is one-party consent. The problem arises when one of the parties is in a place where it's two-party consent. Thus, in the US, virtually every official call begins with a recorded message (before a human picks up) stating that the call may be monitored or recorded.
Back to the technical stuff, the only way I know of to do call recording on WP8 right now is via a conference call to a recorder, or possibly by using something like a headset (wired or Bluetooth) that records the audio traffic in each direction. The OS itself doesn't allow it. This could presumably be fixed with sufficiently-high-privilege homebrew, but so far as I know nobody has even attempted to get started on that yet.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Order on intended WP8 device put on hold for the lack of call recording possibility.
The Truecaller app can listen to incoming calls and then detect the number, used special permission from Microsoft but its install on the phone storage
Hmmm... anybody with a (working) Samsung phone want to take apart (or just extract; I can do the RE) the Truecaller app?
Related
Is it possible to record phone conversations on this model. All I seem to get is the sound recorded from th e microphone? :shock:
Hmm, I thought that was illegal anyway.
Well, if the person on the other end doesn't know that you're recording that is
I suspect that the phone software has been deliberately coded to try and block any attempts to do this, as it is indeed illegal unless you notify the other person at the beginning of the call that you are recording the conversation. (it's called wiretapping, and it's still inexcusable as evidence in a court of law)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=40100&highlight=poll
V
Thanks for your input all.
My Sony Ericsson t610i records phone conversations at the touch of a button, so it's not illegal. It is also possible to buy and use phone recorders for landlines quite readily
As I understand it, is only illegal if you are a business and record and save conversations and details without the usual disclaimer at the beginning of a call, private individuals can do whatever they want.
As it happens some scumbag stole my xda at the weekend so I'm back to using my old 610i at the moment!
Yes, it can be done without any trick, at least with my device… I’ve tried several times and it works fine.
About the question to be illegal or not, I think this would vary depending of the country’s laws where you are living. :wink:
In the Uk, recording a private phonecall is legal, as long as it is for your own use. The moment you intend to make the recording available to a third party, you need the consent of the other person in the recorded call.
An outline of the Legal issues of recording Calls
I too have been looking for ways to record my calls on my XDAIIi. I think the developers are just lazy, as it is obvious that if the duplex can be sent to the handsfree. Then surely it can be sent through a recording loop. Any way please see the below attachment outlining recording of Phone calls in the US, UK. Canada, and Australia. I took it from http://www.voicecallcentral.com/help/acc/source/legal/contents.htm
It also clearly states why people may want to record their conversations - especially when dealing with corporations who record their calls, but always conveniently lose the recording where they said you were right....
YAA Its possible i do it regularly on my 2i your convesation should be with speakers on and just press the record button that would do the needful
I generally have no interest in recording my phone calls, but sometimes when I make calls to certain entities (for example, AT&T) they make promises to me that they do not end up keeping, and the issue turns into one of my word against theirs. I was hoping to find out whether or not anyone can recommend a free call recording software that works on the Kaiser. Thanks in advance.
johnpwu said:
I generally have no interest in recording my phone calls, but sometimes when I make calls to certain entities (for example, AT&T) they make promises to me that they do not end up keeping, and the issue turns into one of my word against theirs. I was hoping to find out whether or not anyone can recommend a free call recording software that works on the Kaiser. Thanks in advance.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Maybe you should use the [size=+2]SEARCH[/size] button! The button does many wonderful things for you like the following:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=315839&highlight=recording
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=356920&highlight=recording
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=349280&highlight=recording
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=351632&highlight=recording
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=350728&highlight=recording
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=338234&highlight=recording
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=340980&highlight=recording
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=333103&highlight=recording
Well Sherpa, thanks so much for your reply. I should have mentioned this in my first post, but one of the things that I'd read when SEARCHING (believe it or not, I do that before I post) was that the restriction may lay in the OS. I was hoping, although I admit it was a long shot, that in the last few months, since WM6.1 had come along, that perhaps a viable call recording option had been released.
The limitation is not in the OS, it is in the hardware.
The OS does not have access to the phone's audio stream.
I’m not interested in whether it’s legal or not. I’m not going to use it in court or anything like that. It’s for my own personal notes.
Does anyone know of a working app to record in and out going phone calls on my sprint touch running Incubus26Jc's RLS11? Thanks.
delawaresace said:
I’m not interested in whether it’s legal or not. I’m not going to use it in court or anything like that. It’s for my own personal notes.
Does anyone know of a working app to record in and out going phone calls on my sprint touch running Incubus26Jc's RLS11? Thanks.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have a bad news for you I've tried at least 5 apps and neither of them worked a few of them allowed me to record but as soon as the call was answeared they muted the speaker so I couldn't hear the person I was speaking to. Anyway search for phone recording apps in the market maybe you will have more luck. Of course if you find a working one give me a shout
Has anyone found a working phone call recording app,yet? Actually I would be happy even with one that allows me to record only me side of conversation.
Can communication be free? I mean, really free?
Since the history of humans two things have been free, Thinking and Talking. Someone began thinking about talking and started charging others for it. Now Talking is Free Again!
So you remember it has been a while since you haven’t called your grandparents and you know they would love to hear you. Or maybe you need to talk to your girlfriend who is doing some shopping and tell her you’re out of shampoo. Or maybe make an order from your favourite pizza delivery. In either case, you need to make that phone call. And Internet calling, as awesome and free as it is, is not going to help you.The pizza guys won’t give you a Skype address, your girlfriend might have the Viber app but the local shop is probably not having free WiFi and your grandparents...well, your they still loves their simple feature phone and you’re not going to change this. Whenever you want to talk with anyone, you don’t use Skype or Viber. You just call on their mobile or landline number. We have to face it, the old fashioned calls (which are known as PSTN calls) are here to stay. You use it everyday and you’re still having to pay for it.
But why can’t an awesome technology like Internet calling be enough to make you reach anyone anywhere and not pay a cent? Well, there are at least 3 big reasons for it:
First, obviously, not everyone uses Skype or Viber. The adoption of smartphone apps that allow Internet calling has grown hugely but is still limited. Skype has a number of daily active users of around 5 million, while there are billions of users that talk in PSTN every day. Looks like there the pain of changing the standard way is too big.
Calling on Skype and Viber is not spontaneous. You as a caller have to think if the person you want to call is online or not, will be on wifi or mobile network, if on mobile network then on 2G, 3G or 4G, and then whether he/she has enough data to talk with you. And most of the times you will have to schedule a time to talk with people on Skype & Viber. It is not as easy as you would’ve called them directly on their mobile number i.e make a PSTN call.
Not everyone has access to an Internet connection which is also powerful enough to allow a good Internet call quality. Your WiFi is usually at home and some people may not have a 3G/4G data plan or the speed may not allow for a decent voice call (like, for example 2G).
So if you want to reach most of your contacts, your only hope is to to still use the old fashioned phone call which requires you to call a mobile or landline number, but your mobile carrier won’t give away the chance to take your money so easily. Seems like no solution. Well, not really! Because now, there is CalLiberate.
CalLiberate allows people to make unlimited & free, local & international calls to their friends and family on CalLiberate. Users can call any person straight from their contacts list or just dial mobile numbers with country code You can basically call anyone you would otherwise call with your regular phone dialer. Only for free.
But how can this be possible? It’s simple. CalLiberate pays the call cost for you.
CalLiberate is an Android app which released it’s 0.9.4 BETA version on 17th March 2015. CalLiberate’s mission is to provide unlimited and free calling worldwide. Unlike other applications, CalLiberate does not charge their users for calling directly to mobile numbers.
The current list of countries that CalLiberate supports where you can directly call mobile numbers (PSTN calls) are India, United States, Canada, Germany UK & Romania. More countries will be added to this list. While CalLiberate to CalLiberate calls can happen worldwide.
Play Store: play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.calliberate.app
Website: calliberate.com
Please, pretty please add support for Australia. This is exactly what I've been looking for.
Hi Jesse,
We will soon add Austraila in our list of supported outbound countries.
Jesse72 said:
Please, pretty please add support for Australia. This is exactly what I've been looking for.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
calliberate said:
Hi Jesse,
We will soon add Austraila in our list of supported outbound countries.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sweet! How long is 'soon'? Could you give a rough idea of how long it will be?
Maybe within 2 Weeks, or much earlier. We are also looking to support France and Spain as well.
Jesse72 said:
Sweet! How long is 'soon'? Could you give a rough idea of how long it will be?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Can I do call recording on the Pixel 4 XL? I currently have a Samsung Note 9 SM-N960U1, the first non-rooted phone I've ever had. I love the phone except I have to hide it from upgrades and the Playstore or I will lose my call recording which I depend on. I have a friend who is looking for a phone and also needs to do call recording and I'd like to get him something he doesn't have to jump through hoops with to maintain call recording like I have to.
Thanks!
With a stock Pixel 4 ther is no recording that I'm aware of. Maybe third party apps can do this..
matlear said:
With a stock Pixel 4 ther is no recording that I'm aware of. Maybe third party apps can do this..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
- Everything worked flawlessly for years with 3rd Party apps like ACR. Accountants, attorneys, IT people, and anyone who charges for support time used it for documentation and billing.
- Android 9 made call recordings very poor quality, so people reverted to 8.1 but then providers clandestinely did force upgrades to get them on a new boot loader so they can't go back. Users flashed the generic and then turned things off that you cannot with any of the vendor firmware with ADB and did APKs through APK pure instead of the playstore. They announced that they were going to kill call recording altogether in Android 10.
- March of 2019 the Playstore rolled out an update that destroyed the ability of any app to integrate with contacts and history. The world went nuts talking about law suits, etc. They tried sneaking things in through Wi-Fi so users stopped using it to preserve their call recording.
- OnePlus, Xiaomi, and Huawei make sure to include this feature on their build of Android, it is not available on stock Android.
- Now Android 10 comes out and says it added call recording back. What I don't know is if this enables it to work again with 3rd party apps, only on Exynos, only on... etc. Since this phone doesn't have a locked boot loader and can be rooted, that helps, but it's too new to be able to go back to Android 8.1. So what I'm wondering is if people here have call recording working with the Pixel 4 XL. Maybe I just need to get a OnePlus, Xiaomi, or Huawei.
Call recording works perfectly with root but I'm not entirely sure about stock. I use call recorder by skvalex. I haven't looked at the thread lately but I seem to remember that his app did work on stock. I think the recording quality might be reduced though. Here is a link to his thread if you want to check it out. It comes with a free trial and then there is a one time purchase to continue use. I've been using it for years and highly recommend it.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1441643
murphyjasonc said:
Call recording works perfectly with root but I'm not entirely sure about stock. I use call recorder by skvalex.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That's what I need to hear. I love my Samsung Note, but before I steer someone else to one and the misery the Playstore and Samsung and Android have caused me, I'd rather give him a better option. The Note 9 is my first phone without root and it has been misery. It has been nothing but sneak attacks by Verizon and the playstore, etc.
As of now I'm happy with the Pixel phones as I was with the Nexus line before that. I used to just get my phone from my carrier (Verizon) before I switched to Google Fi. At that time I always bought the latest Samsung device and jumped through hoops to get root. Root is easy to get and maintain now. I might not always buy a Google device but I will always buy from an OEM that allows bootloader to be unlocked.
>but I will always buy from an OEM that allows bootloader to be unlocked<
Those are wise words. I regret buying the SM-N960U instead of the SM-N9600, and I could use the second SIM. I wanted Samsung Pay for traveling. It was totally not worth it. Because the Note 9 could do what I wanted at the time I figured I didn't need it anymore. Shortly thereafter, the unholy trinity (Android, Verizon, and Google Play Store) sabotaged our phones. I flashed them with the U1 firmware so I could shut things off. We did not use Wi-Fi, turned off all updates from the play store, and all security updates on the phone with ODIN. APKs were from versions prior to March, 2019/911. One day I was the one who connected my phone to a USB port on a computer with Internet access by accident. Within seconds I received a message my phone had been updated. They sabotaged it again. Call recording still works, but they destroyed the audio on the camera and voice recorder we use to take notes at meetings, and screwed up my VOIP calling. Now I must re-flash it and set it up again. We need is good call recording. For us, call recording is our note taker, documents conversations for invoicing detail and time, and allows us to not write and drive at the same time. It integrates with CRM so we can check previous conversations, and voice-to-text. It has enabled us to collect several double-digit 10s of thousands of dollars owed to us to enforce contracts. In 2019 they destroyed even the history, which we had to recover and manually re-index. The update I just got? Most likely spyware. Now it says my phone is in a call when it isn't. Only 15 out of 50 states still require two-party consent, and after recent court cases, effectively 13. Their security updates are far more likely for THEIR security, not mine. They record ALL of your conversations, not just meta data, leaving them the only ones privy to them. The reason I know is they tried to hire me in the late 90's, prior to 911, to do precisely that. That begs the question, do you trust the caretakers of the information? So another reason to record your calls is to have the ability to prepare a proper defense should the need arise. Now a relative is going into business and sees the value of recording his calls. He likes what we have, but we don't, and after what just happened, I'm assembling options for him and us.