Sorry if this has been covered elsewhere; I couldn't find anything.
I'm looking into getting some spare chargers for my Tilt. I read at Pocket PC Techs that the device has a distinct "fast charge" mode, that uses a special pinout. Is this true?
If so, does the charger that comes with the Tilt use this fast charge mode? It seems to be just a standard mini-USB charger (data sheet here).
The link to Pocket PC Techs is actually to an adapter that they sell that is suppose to give you a fast charge with any USB charger. I'm wondering under what circumstances I'd have to use this.
Anyone know what the fast charge pinout is, and which third-party chargers use it?
Thanks.
ISTR reading something about pins 4 & 5 being tied together on some chargers -- should be very easy to test this.
I have not tested this but I suspect the pin out is the same as the Hermes:
http://www.tracyandmatt.co.uk/blogs/index.php/2006/09/10/htc_hermes_usb_connector_pin_config
The USB charging is done with different connections and at a different mA rating. The mains charger is 1000mA and is what I would call the normal charging system (but what the site you show, refers to as fast charge - but only by comparison to USB charging) This is just about standard for many sync/charge PDAs and not a special feature of the Kaiser.
Mike
I do notice a huge difference in speed comparing my old razor usb power adapter vs usb cable into my computer vs tilt power adapater so it prolly makes sense
jallenclark said:
I do notice a huge difference in speed comparing my old razor usb power adapter vs usb cable into my computer vs tilt power adapater so it prolly makes sense
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Yep, the Razor adapter only delivers 500mA not 1000mA
Mike
Plus the razor charger does not have the pins 4-5 shorted, this is a HTC tweak that lets the phone know that it's on a charger vs std. USB power and it may in fact charge at a higher rate upon detecting this. I just know that my Hermes occasionally did strange things like turn off BT radio and other odd things when connecting/disconnecting from different chargers. Kaiser seems better at this.
For a couple of weeks now, I have been charging my Kaiser at work by using the adapter that came with my Audiovox SMT5600. It's been working fine. I cannot however determine if this charges any faster or slower than the Kaiser's adapter.
Slow Charging
So that would explain when I use GPS in the car with my old RAZR charger why the battery still drains. Darn, looks like I'll have to buy a new car charger.
USB Charging
are there any issues iwth battery drain or lif when charging with the USB cable connected to a computer?
Thanks,
g
Is there a specific USB charger.
The pin out is the same as the Hermes?
mikechannon said:
I have not tested this but I suspect the pin out is the same as the Hermes:
http://www.tracyandmatt.co.uk/blogs/index.php/2006/09/10/htc_hermes_usb_connector_pin_config....
Mike
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Is that tested by anybody?
Frans. said:
Is that tested by anybody?
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I wouldn't think it would need to be tested. As per this page:
HTC has developed a range of accessories that are compatible across all HTC devices for consumer's ease of use. These include the BH M200 (Bluetooth headset), HS U110 (3.5 mm audio adapter and headset), and the HS S200 (HTC standard stereo wired headset) to enable effective communications on the move.
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If the audio adapter and hard wired headset are compatible across all HTC devices (per HTC themselves), then that confirms that the pinout of the audio side is the same. And it's been mentioned earlier that the data side follows the mini-usb standard, which I can confirm: I'm using the usb cable from my camera to connect my Kaiser to my PC at home, while I use the supplied cable to connect it to my work PC.
dscline said:
I wouldn't think it would need to be tested. As per this page:
If the audio adapter and hard wired headset are compatible across all HTC devices (per HTC themselves), then that confirms that the pinout of the audio side is the same. And it's been mentioned earlier that the data side follows the mini-usb standard, which I can confirm: I'm using the usb cable from my camera to connect my Kaiser to my PC at home, while I use the supplied cable to connect it to my work PC.
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I would like to use my old Himalaya MDA II Hands Free DSP Car Kit for my new Kaiser (as that I only have to buy a passive holder).
I tried to find a ExtUSB 11-lead Pre-wired Connector Plug ....but it is impossible..any suggestions?
It should be something like this one http://www.gomadic.com/comip10leadp.html
Sorry, can't help you there.
enigmaneo said:
So that would explain when I use GPS in the car with my old RAZR charger why the battery still drains. Darn, looks like I'll have to buy a new car charger.
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I am experiencing a similar issue with an USB/car adapter and the USB cable that came with the Tilt.
Ran Google Maps yesterday with GPS on and when I got home my phone was almost empty. It was charging the whole time in the car though.
Does this mean I should look for another USB cable that is shorting those pins?
What about these adapters that plug into the phone and allow you to connect a USB cable for charging and a 3.5mm audio plug?
http://cgi.ebay.com/HTC-3in1-USB-3-...ryZ15040QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
coolVariable said:
I am experiencing a similar issue with an USB/car adapter and the USB cable that came with the Tilt.
Ran Google Maps yesterday with GPS on and when I got home my phone was almost empty. It was charging the whole time in the car though.
Does this mean I should look for another USB cable that is shorting those pins?
What about these adapters that plug into the phone and allow you to connect a USB cable for charging and a 3.5mm audio plug?
http://cgi.ebay.com/HTC-3in1-USB-3-...ryZ15040QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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Mmm, that is a unique piece!! But the cable seems somewhat short.
I think at the end..I am going to combine following pieces to make the final connection to my old handsfree carkit.. (I hate soldering)
http://i.expansys.com/i/b/b139762.jpg
http://www.allekabels.nl/Kroonsteentjes/35/3249/Kroonsteen.html
http://www.allekabels.nl/Monitor-Kabels/19/1342/Monitor-Kabel.html
Any problems with me using my old Razr car charger on my Kaiser? Typically I charge mine every night with the standard charger but in case of emergency I'd like to use my Razr car charger
Thanks
In answer to the original question, yes, pins 4 & 5 are shorted on the OEM charger that ships with the Tilts, thus enabling it to fast-charge the phone at currents greater than 500ma.
Hopefully this helps,
--W5i2
Hello everyoe,
my MHL adapter i recently bought wont charge my phone, i downloaded Battery Info from the google market, and the voltage seems to be just like the normal wall charger
my MHL adapter is directly plugged in to the Television, then an micro usb with an long 5meter cable is connected to the wall charger
what could be causing this ?
regards, Tomaat
I am thinking of getting this tab to replace my acer a510.
Just wondering i think i read you can only charge using acer special cable??
Does this tablet have a usb/micro usb that can trickle charge while screen is off/asleep
example my a510 can trickle charge slowly if i hook up a usb to it, but only when the screen is off.
Acer use their own special usb plug to charge normally.
I want to use this for long traveling etc and only want to use a micro or usb from the car to get some juice into it.
I don't know. On the TF700 it was possible but on the TF701 I don't know but also didn't try it.
But I think when connecting the charging cable only to the tablet it will charge with any 5V usb charger but just very slow.
Page 17 of the manual.
http://dlcdnet.asus.com/pub/ASUS/EeePAD/TF701T/e8803_tf701t_em_v2_for_web_only.pdf
You need the special cable to charge, but you can use it to trickle charge from a PC or (presumably) a car USB charger with the screen off. Fast charging requires using the special cable with the Asus mains adapter.
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Fast charging requires using the special cable with the Asus mains adapter.
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That is because the AC plug of the TF701 charges either with 15V/1,2Amps or 5V/2Amps, while a normal USB 2.0 hub is limited to 0,5Amps (USB 3.0 to 0,8Amps). If you have a vehicle charger with USB slot the charging speed depends on the max. current it can supply .
And also: there is no micro usb slot on the tablet or the dock.
btw: What Acer did really sucks,because they just switched + with Data+ and GND with DATA-GND from the USB pinning, so you _need_ the original Acer charging cable. (My brother has the A511,where i already repaired the cable once due to lead fracture)
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That is because the AC plug of the TF701 charges either with 15V/1,2Amps or 5V/2Amps, while a normal USB 2.0 hub is limited to 0,5Amps (USB 3.0 to 0,8Amps). If you have a vehicle charger with USB slot the charging speed depends on the max. current it can supply .
And also: there is no micro usb slot on the tablet or the dock.
btw: What Acer did really sucks,because they just switched + with Data+ and GND with DATA-GND from the USB pinning, so you _need_ the original Acer charging cable. (My brother has the A511,where i already repaired the cable once due to lead fracture)
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thanks everyone.
does anyone know whay the 64gb seems unavailable in japan? is this the same in other countries?
malos1984 said:
thanks everyone.
does anyone know whay the 64gb seems unavailable in japan? is this the same in other countries?
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Dont know why, but on amazon.de and amazon.com there is also no 64GB Version available.
Lamensis said:
Dont know why, but on amazon.de and amazon.com there is also no 64GB Version available.
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In Holland it is not even in their program.
Hi, im looking for a cable to connect the Z1 with TV.
Id like to be able to keep charging the phone while its connected and have an otg/usb port available.
Does the Sony product provide that sort of functionality?
For sure if you looking for a cable that do the best job then you have to look for Genuine Sony one. There is no that option, to charge and connect to TV via cable in the same time, if there is that will be provided by non genuine cables which probably, maybe, will have some issues or less quality.
The solution: you can charge in the same time and connect to TV by charging from magnetic Dock or Cable with famous 2 pins and connect the phone via MHL. This will work.
Hi all,
I'm having two problems that I believe are related.
1) I bought the official MHL 3.0 sony cable and my tv intermitently sees the hdmi source. Off and on every second and my phone screen never displays onto the screen. Also the phone alternates saying its being charged and not being charged.
2) With some power sources, charging by micro USB alternates being charge and not being charged off and on just like the above case. But some micro USB cables/sources work just fine. As well my magnetic dock connector charges my phone fine as well. USB hosting is fine too.
Anyone has tried MHL or have had similar problems? Should I contact clove? I'm in Canada and sending it back there seems quite the pain. And if i just can't use MHL or certain cables maybe i should bite my tongue and keep the phone as is. I love it otherwise and haven't phone any faults until trying the MHL cable...
old mhl adapter works
My old mhl adapter, which requires its own power source through micro USB does work and I can mirror my screen to the TV. I just think that mhl 3.0 with power from the HDMI is not enough to drive/consistently power my phone. Same for the micro USB connectors that don't seem to keep a consistent charge on my phone. Anyone see anything similar?
Use Chromecast, the phone has a dedicated cast screen option
Yes I have used chromecast and it works great. I just wonder if anyone has tried mhl 3.0 Sony cable or has had the same chagrging experience as me.
Were you able to solve this? Im thinking about getting an MHL 3.0 cable but not sure whether my monitor will be able to handle it