[Q] Use on Bell in Canada - Galaxy S 4 Active Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Does anyone know if there is a version that could be used on Bell in Canada? Isn't AT&T usualy cross compatible? Would an unlocked AT&T version be usable?

Titus_Andronicus said:
Does anyone know if there is a version that could be used on Bell in Canada? Isn't AT&T usualy cross compatible? Would an unlocked AT&T version be usable?
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I am currently using an unlocked S4 Active i537 from AT&T on the Bell network. Only problem I have is you can't use WiFi Tethering without rooting, disabling TetheringProvisioning.apk and running an App like FoxFi.

Either of my fellow Canadians able to OTA update for 4.4.2?

No I wasn't able to get the OTA. I kept getting "your software is up to date check back in 24 hours". So I downloaded the *.cfg file from the "Android 4.4 KitKat now available for S4 Active" thread and ADB sideloaded it.

Mind posting a link to where you found the instructions on how to sideload? Thanks

SkiRac3rDud3 said:
Mind posting a link to where you found the instructions on how to sideload? Thanks
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This is for a Nexus device but the procedure is pretty much the same. I entered Recovery mode by turning off the phone, pressing and holding "Volume Up, Home and Power" at the same time then as soon as you see the Samsung boot up logo release the buttons.
http://www.nexusauthority.com/2013/12/10/use-adb-sideload-method-manually-update-nexus-device/

where did you get the package for the s4 active OTA ?

Rivinence said:
I am currently using an unlocked S4 Active i537 from AT&T on the Bell network. Only problem I have is you can't use WiFi Tethering without rooting, disabling TetheringProvisioning.apk and running an App like FoxFi.
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Wow, that is prety significant problem. Hmm... I have seen unbranded i537 phones available for $400 USD. That is a little too pricy for me. Maybe that price will come down now that the S5 is out....

Titus_Andronicus said:
Wow, that is prety significant problem. Hmm... I have seen unbranded i537 phones available for $400 USD. That is a little too pricy for me. Maybe that price will come down now that the S5 is out....
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The reason I am looking at the Active is for the IP67 rating. However, it looks like I can get a subsidised S5 (also with IP67) for less than the S4 Active. I guess the Active also has better impact resistance though...

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how do I get the note to work with t-mobile?

I'm with T-mobile but I am dying to get the note. Can someoen link or even just give me a description as to how to get the note to work on T-mo? I'm guessing rooting it but then what?
3g/4g will not work here on t-mo. so i would suggest take a hot-spot and connect via wifi. thats what im doing . other than that there is not much of an issue. since i assume u would be getting an international version it will be unlocked already and rooting methods are are available in the dev section
2low2rl said:
I'm with T-mobile but I am dying to get the note. Can someoen link or even just give me a description as to how to get the note to work on T-mo? I'm guessing rooting it but then what?
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Please be more specific as in data or actual service. Too vague...
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nihal1983 said:
3g/4g will not work here on t-mo. so i would suggest take a hot-spot and connect via wifi. thats what im doing . other than that there is not much of an issue. since i assume u would be getting an international version it will be unlocked already and rooting methods are are available in the dev section
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you have the "unlocked" version? I thought the "unlocked" international version would work on tmo 3g/4g ?
I'm not 100% sure about this but the only way I could get my streak to work with tmobile 3g/4g was to get one for Bell, I'd just checked their site and it lists the note as having the correct frequencies for t-mo us. My guess is get one from them and get it unlocked should it be locked onto their network
tried
sanyokt4j said:
I'm not 100% sure about this but the only way I could get my streak to work with tmobile 3g/4g was to get one for Bell, I'd just checked their site and it lists the note as having the correct frequencies for t-mo us. My guess is get one from them and get it unlocked should it be locked onto their network
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did try but get only edge speeds. no way around this. also an article on engadget says that the att note will not work on the tmo band if unlocked.
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you have the "unlocked" version? I thought the "unlocked" international version would work on tmo 3g/4g ?
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No. It does not.
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T-Mobile N3 on AT&T LTE validation?

There's a lot of discussions and speculations that the T-Mobile version works on AT&T LTE. If someone is able to confirm this, please let us know. I like to get confirmation before going this route. I have until tomorrow to cancel my preorder with AT&T. Thanks much.
I dont believe there are T-units out there yet. We should start seeing them after the 2nd.
Im in your same boat.
FCC paper work on which bands it supports proves it will work with att bands. i pre-orderd my tmobile version from negri, it is unlocked and cheaper then store.
porkaysi said:
FCC paper work on which bands it supports proves it will work with att bands. i pre-orderd my tmobile version from negri, it is unlocked and cheaper then store.
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+1 ...... Soooooo ready!
rooted,recovered,and rebooted from the ol' i777.......
As some are getting the T-Mobile versions today, please help us validate if it works on AT&T LTE?
vince2398 said:
As some are getting the T-Mobile versions today, please help us validate if it works on AT&T LTE?
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Tmobile states a requirement of 40 days to sim unlock the phone, but can confirm that the TMobile version that I purchased from a corporate store today has a locked bootloader and doesn't provide any performance benefits over the ATT version that arrived in the mail for me today as well. They are only slightly faster than the international version [N900] and side by side data is slower than the Tab 3 7.0.
Hope this helps...
Bob
bob_beringer said:
Tmobile states a requirement of 40 days to sim unlock the phone, but can confirm that the TMobile version that I purchased from a corporate store today has a locked bootloader and doesn't provide any performance benefits over the ATT version that arrived in the mail for me today as well. They are only slightly faster than the international version [N900] and side by side data is slower than the Tab 3 7.0.
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Bob
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You are the only one saying it has a locked bootloader...??? True or not.
drmacrofish said:
You are the only one saying it has a locked bootloader...??? True or not.
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The bootloader is unlocked.
Source: Pretty much everyone at the T-Mobile Note 3 forum.
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You are the only one saying it has a locked bootloader...??? True or not.
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BLUF: CF-AUTO-ROOT worked for me on the N900T, have both my N900 & N900T rooted, SIM unlocked from cellunlocker and working like a champ
For the answer to your question: see the attached two (2) images from the same phone, fact is that the information displayed in download mode for the 900T, is a bit flakey for the phone that I purchased from T-Mobile.
I have seen this information change on this device, more than 4 times, my other two N900* models don't have this issue and haven't demonstrated this behavior. In either case, I was able to make the device work on AT&T, but what I haven't seen happen is for my LTE speeds to work properly yet. I am using a N900A, N900T, N900, SM-T217A all side by side and each of the Note 3's are running less than 10mb, while the Tab 3 7.0 is running more than 55mb off the same tower from the same exact location. Seems like I need to find a way to force LTE 14, like the Tab 3 7.0 is using.
Other strange behavior is that the mobile networks menu didn't show all of the options that older ROM's offered, until after I swapped SIM's.
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Bob
You have to force LTE, look on the ATT forum, there is a write up how to do it, even with then correct APN. It has been confirmed by several people.
unlocked boot loader and ATT LTE.
I said I would never spend 700$ on a phone again, but it looks like that's the route I'm taking. Not how to break the news to the wife....
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You have to force LTE, look on the ATT forum, there is a write up how to do it, even with then correct APN. It has been confirmed by several people.
unlocked boot loader and ATT LTE.
I said I would never spend 700$ on a phone again, but it looks like that's the route I'm taking. Not how to break the news to the wife....
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Yeah me too. I will not be bullied into locked bootloaders. I pay AT&T alot of money for this nonsense not to happen.
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I did the same. the T-Mobile is just perfect. Unlock SIM and Unlocked Bootloader. I haven't rooted yet waiting to decide I want to keep the Note 3.

[Q] Galaxy S5 VS. Galaxy s5 active

I recently purchased the GS5 active and was wondering will there be a new phone thread created specifically for this model or will the GS5 ATT thread work with the active as well. I know of some minor differences manly the fingerprint scanner and the extra shortcut button on the side. Will that affect me from putting roms on that are meant for the s5. Of course this is all theoretical as of now but if anyone could give me a little insight that would be very much appreciated.
I think they will make a new Phone thread for the Active. I hope we get root when the S5 gets root.
My Active (Camo) will be here tomorrow.
Coolest phone ever!!!
LuckyColdJohnson said:
I think they will make a new Phone thread for the Active. I hope we get root when the S5 gets root.
My Active (Camo) will be here tomorrow.
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Same It looks amazing I just wish they made the back metal. Such a bad move on ATT to lock the boot loader. Its seems futile at this point people are going to root and mod there phones at this point no matter what.
ATT S5 Active Rooted
levytheman91 said:
I recently purchased the GS5 active and was wondering will there be a new phone thread created specifically for this model or will the GS5 ATT thread work with the active as well. I know of some minor differences manly the fingerprint scanner and the extra shortcut button on the side. Will that affect me from putting roms on that are meant for the s5. Of course this is all theoretical as of now but if anyone could give me a little insight that would be very much appreciated.
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Hi. IF you have not rooted your S5 Active yet, I can confirm that Towelroot is able to root the device. My ATT S5 Active in Camo is rooted using Towelroot. However, I cannot confirm if the new custom ROMS that work on the S5 will work on the S5 Active. Still looking for for a custom ROM to bring back the Stock Car Mode and the Voice Controls.
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Hi. IF you have not rooted your S5 Active yet, I can confirm that Towelroot is able to root the device. My ATT S5 Active in Camo is rooted using Towelroot. However, I cannot confirm if the new custom ROMS that work on the S5 will work on the S5 Active. Still looking for for a custom ROM to bring back the Stock Car Mode and the Voice Controls.
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Ya thank you I wouldn't recommend to try them I recently tried flashing the download booster it soft broke my phone and there is now was to fix it at the moment except to send it back to samsung or waiting for the firmware to come out. Also the Gs5 active usies a dif. firmware "sm-g870a" which I learnt the hard way while trying to use the fix for the att version.
This is an example of why you don't buy the special versions of a phone if you plan on doing anything custom with it because usually the original gets the most attention. No need for all the other versions, anyway. Just buy a case and a good screen protector and you have an active. Pointless versions.
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Ya thank you I wouldn't recommend to try them I recently tried flashing the download booster it soft broke my phone and there is now was to fix it at the moment except to send it back to samsung or waiting for the firmware to come out. Also the Gs5 active usies a dif. firmware "sm-g870a" which I learnt the hard way while trying to use the fix for the att version.
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This is why you read through ALL the threads in the AT&T S5 section before trying to flash **** LOL. If he had read he would know we can't flash things on S5's yet. Way to go! You must be trying to get yourself a nice paperweight man.
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Happy new member of the S5 Active club.
Have owned/used most all of the last two years of flagship phones and I really like how this one sits in my hand. If only HTC would figure out that their camera still sucks I'd likely have the M8.
Will see how it holds up but I do feel it's a better combination than phone and case in terms of feel. I'm sure the corners will get beaten up and it'll show other wear a case would usually protect but going to give it a go with this one. The chrome wore off my S4 even with a case so who knows what this will bring.
BTW, YAY REDish (I'm a guy, we only see like 8 colors)
PS4AndroidHacker said:
This is why you read through ALL the threads in the AT&T S5 section before trying to flash **** LOL. If he had read he would know we can't flash things on S5's yet. Way to go! You must be trying to get yourself a nice paperweight man.
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Hey no need for that we all make mistakes once in a while I was excited and I wasn't thinking. Also I didn't flash a rom I meant to say I used the gs5 toolkit to get rid of bloatware...
Dont worry about that dude, at least you learned, and thats what XDA is all about But as excited as you (we all) get, you have to READ READ READ like theres no tomorrow! because as that guy stated, you dont want to end up with a $650 paper weight, no phone and still pay att for their "service" lol and be patient, enjoy the stock phone for now, because once the gates open up when the firmware is released, you're going to have all kinds of fun!
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Hey no need for that we all make mistakes once in a while I was excited and I wasn't thinking. Also I didn't flash a rom I meant to say I used the gs5 toolkit to get rid of bloatware...
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Dont worry about that dude, at least you learned, and thats what XDA is all about But as excited as you (we all) get, you have to READ READ READ like theres no tomorrow! because as that guy stated, you dont want to end up with a $650 paper weight, no phone and still pay att for their "service" lol and be patient, enjoy the stock phone for now, because once the gates open up when the firmware is released, you're going to have all kinds of fun!
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I have used the Tool Kit, (worked perfectly) I have rooted, Installed SS, phone is sick now and running great. I also flashed a T-Mobile ROM, an International ROM, both work and is fine. The Active can do all of those things with only losing your extra button function. I am now back to my Stock rooted firmware but its all good. I will be waiting on a Active Forum and DEV work there. So far, everything is okay flashing regular s 5 stuff.
You flashed a T-Mobile rom?
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I have used the Tool Kit, (worked perfectly) I have rooted, Installed SS, phone is sick now and running great. I also flashed a T-Mobile ROM, an International ROM, both work and is fine. The Active can do all of those things with only losing your extra button function. I am now back to my Stock rooted firmware but its all good. I will be waiting on a Active Forum and DEV work there. So far, everything is okay flashing regular s 5 stuff.
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I read and saw that you said that you flashed a T-Mobile rom... Did Wi-Fi calling work? I'm using my s5 active unlocked on T-Mobile now and until there's a way to unlock the aws bands like they did on the S4 active(hopefully they will) I'll be stuck with edge until the network refarm is complete. I'm definitely interested in seeing how you did that.
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I read and saw that you said that you flashed a T-Mobile rom... Did Wi-Fi calling work? I'm using my s5 active unlocked on T-Mobile now and until there's a way to unlock the aws bands like they did on the S4 active(hopefully they will) I'll be stuck with edge until the network refarm is complete. I'm definitely interested in seeing how you did that.
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Sorry, the WiFi Calling did not work. I think only T-Mobile sims for that. We have our own ROM for the active now so I have stopped flashing different ROMs.
LuckyColdJohnson said:
Sorry, the WiFi Calling did not work. I think only T-Mobile sims for that. We have our own ROM for the active now so I have stopped flashing different ROMs.
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hows that Rom working out for you? and issues?
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hows that Rom working out for you? and issues?
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Awesome. It's the best.

Unlocked firmware to Verizon S8

Has anyone tested yet the SM-G950U1 firmware from Updato.com in your Verizon S8 yet? prior to the S8 i had the 7 Edge with unlocked firmware and worked just fine, just wondering if this is official build on the net.
It is and it works. I'm using it now. Gear VR supposed to work also but I don't have one to say for sure.
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It is and it works. I'm using it now. Gear VR supposed to work also but I don't have one to say for sure.
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which version of Odin did you use?
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which version of Odin did you use?
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Honestly I can't remember but I'm pretty sure it was either modified .12 or the unmodified version. I did update to the Canadian firmware first though because the U1 want available at the time.
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Honestly I can't remember but I'm pretty sure it was either modified .12 or the unmodified version. I did update to the Canadian firmware first though because the U1 want available at the time.
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I thought all the US variants of SM-G950U were bootloader-locked and hence we couldn't root. Are you guys saying that with this U1 firmware, it's unlocked and hence we can root? Link? I'm very skeptical this works.
Nobody said it was bootloader unlocked. It's carrier unlocked without any carrier bloat.
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I thought all the US variants of SM-G950U were bootloader-locked and hence we couldn't root. Are you guys saying that with this U1 firmware, it's unlocked and hence we can root? Link? I'm very skeptical this works.
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No, the firmware comes from the unlocked S8, which means is bloat free, has nothing to do with root.
I've had the U firmware for a couple of weeks and it works great. Just that there's no video calling. Haven't tried wifi calling yet. Those are two features I've barely used. Battery life is great. I think sprint forums are close to root so I might root after they get everything worked out.
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I've had the U firmware for a couple of weeks and it works great. Just that there's no video calling. Haven't tried wifi calling yet. Those are two features I've barely used. Battery life is great. I think sprint forums are close to root so I might root after they get everything worked out.
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Does Verizon's visual voice mail and HD Calling work?
Verion Video calling is no big deal for me, but I have used Wifi calling once or twice from a store that had no Verizon coverage, but had free wifi. I could live without it, but it would be a nice to have. Then again, no bloat, and some of the Samsung features like Cloud Backup would be cool.
Can this be flashed without tripping Knox/Safe flags? And/or is it easy to flash back to stock Verizon without tripping?
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Does Verizon's visual voice mail and HD Calling work?
Verion Video calling is no big deal for me, but I have used Wifi calling once or twice from a store that had no Verizon coverage, but had free wifi. I could live without it, but it would be a nice to have. Then again, no bloat, and some of the Samsung features like Cloud Backup would be cool.
Can this be flashed without tripping Knox/Safe flags? And/or is it easy to flash back to stock Verizon without tripping?
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Yes, the HD calling works. Calls are extremely crisp. It's as if you were making a Messenger call over Wi-Fi. It's night and day.
I have the Verizon G950U variant and I'm looking for root, sadly this model doesn't have the "OEM Unlock" option under Developer Settings so I can't flash it without tripping Knox or my phone locking up.
Does anyone know if it's possible to use the Tracfone S8, and flash the Verizon S8 firmware to it? I followed steps from another site and it gave me a firmware with Cricket, Metro pcs, and T-Mobile bloat on it and it was most definitely not Verizon. Anyone have any ideas what might have went wrong? Downloaded Verizon firmware direct from SamMobile but that was what I got. Any ideas or help will be greatly appreciated, hope I'm putting this in the right place rather than start a new thread. Any help, tips, guides, download links, etc. will be greatly appreciated. Thanks guys!
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Yes, the HD calling works. Calls are extremely crisp. It's as if you were making a Messenger call over Wi-Fi. It's night and day.
I have the Verizon G950U variant and I'm looking for root, sadly this model doesn't have the "OEM Unlock" option under Developer Settings so I can't flash it without tripping Knox or my phone locking up.
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Just to clarify, are you saying that flashing the G950U1 ROM to a Verizon G950U will trip Knox, or just that if you attempt to root it?
Thanks.
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Just to clarify, are you saying that flashing the G950U1 ROM to a Verizon G950U will trip Knox, or just that if you attempt to root it?
Thanks.
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I'm pretty sure that if you were to flash any rom or recovery other than the stock (and maybe even that, I'm not sure), it will trip Knox. Your phone might give you the whole "SEAndroid is not Enforcing" boot screen. This happened to me on my Galaxy Note 5, I even tried reflashing it's sitting in my drawer, lol.
I wouldn't take the risk unless you have been given a spare Galaxy S8 by Samsung to expirement with. It's a little too risky for me
I may be an idiot, but I do know that OEM unlocking isn't available in Dev options. I got my Galaxy S8 a few weeks ago and not quite ready to tamper with it.
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Does Verizon's visual voice mail and HD Calling work?
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I would like to reiterate this question for someone to answer please. I had the U on my S7 Edge and was missing VVM, only thing that was missing that I cared about.
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I would like to reiterate this question for someone to answer please. I had the U on my S7 Edge and was missing VVM, only thing that was missing that I cared about.
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I don't see any indication of HD calling anywhere, visual voice-mail is missing, but I use Google voice anyway.
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I'm pretty sure that if you were to flash any rom or recovery other than the stock (and maybe even that, I'm not sure), it will trip Knox. Your phone might give you the whole "SEAndroid is not Enforcing" boot screen. This happened to me on my Galaxy Note 5, I even tried reflashing it's sitting in my drawer, lol.
I wouldn't take the risk unless you have been given a spare Galaxy S8 by Samsung to expirement with. It's a little too risky for me [emoji14]
I may be an idiot, but I do know that OEM unlocking isn't available in Dev options. I got my Galaxy S8 a few weeks ago and not quite ready to tamper with it.
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People have been flashing all kinds of different carrier firmware as well as the unlocked firmware and nobody reported Knox bring tripped at all. Is fine to flash as much as you like.
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People have been flashing all kinds of different carrier firmware as well as the unlocked firmware and nobody reported Knox bring tripped at all. Is fine to flash as much as you like.
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Wasn't aware of that, I haven't seen anything on xda about it. Will other carrier's SIM cards still work on different roms?
You're kidding right? Those threads were one of the earliest ones posted since the phone was released. If you have an sim unlocked device, it'll work fine, its the same limitation as every other sim locked device. I converted my Vzw S8 to the US unlocked version since Vzw LTE phones come sim unlocked already. Using it on MintSim (Tmo) and it works perfectly fine. Have Wifi calling and VoLTE. If you have any other carrier phones, you'll need to have it sim unlocked to be able to use other providers even if you flash that carrier's rom.
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You're kidding right? Those threads were one of the earliest ones posted since the phone was released. If you have an sim unlocked device, it'll work fine, its the same limitation as every other sim locked device. I converted my Vzw S8 to the US unlocked version since Vzw LTE phones come sim unlocked already. Using it on MintSim (Tmo) and it works perfectly fine. Have Wifi calling and VoLTE. If you have any other carrier phones, you'll need to have it sim unlocked to be able to use other providers even if you flash that carrier's rom.
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I want to flash my verizon s8 950U with an unlocked clean firmware. Where can I download it?
Search for carrier switch posts in the regular S8 forums for instructions with links

I have Sprint. Which Note 8 to buy? Root. Please Help!

Hello,
Which Note 8 should I buy?
International Version
Unlocked Version
Sprint Version
I heard the processor for the International Version is best I think it stats with an E. Should I get that?
I would like to root.
Does it matter or should I just order one directly from Sprint?
Will this work with Sprint?
Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Factory Unlocked Phone - 6.3" Screen - 64GB - Midnight Black (U.S. Warranty)
This one from Amazon?
Should I buy that one above from Amazon or buy it directly from Sprint?
Can I root both of them?
I would like to order one today, I just don't know if I should order from Sprint or Amazon.
P.S.
Also if this is not possible should I get a S8 or S8 Plus? However, reading over on their threads doesn't look like root is possible really there either, hit or miss. Is that true? Which S8 I should get? International or US?
I mainly want apps like:
Ad Block
YouTube Background Player
YouTube Ad Block
ETC...
Please Advise.
you said sprint, sprint is cmda... meaning, exynos WILL NOT WORK. no international phone, you must buy snapdragon. now you have two choices carrier locked, and carrier unlocked. both have a locked boot loader and are not currently capable of root. if you purchase the phone out right it does not really matter which version you get. if you buy sprint locked after 50 days on their network they will carrier unlock the phone. the only true difference is carrier bloatware/ software which I'm hearing can be flashed using odin
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you said sprint, sprint is cmda... meaning, exynos WILL NOT WORK. no international phone, you must buy snapdragon. now you have two choices carrier locked, and carrier unlocked. both have a locked boot loader and are not currently capable of root. if you purchase the phone out right it does not really matter which version you get. if you buy sprint locked after 50 days on their network they will carrier unlock the phone. the only true difference is carrier bloatware/ software which I'm hearing can be flashed using odin
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There are SOME radio differences but I agree it shouldn't matter.
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you said sprint, sprint is cmda... meaning, exynos WILL NOT WORK. no international phone, you must buy snapdragon. now you have two choices carrier locked, and carrier unlocked. both have a locked boot loader and are not currently capable of root. if you purchase the phone out right it does not really matter which version you get. if you buy sprint locked after 50 days on their network they will carrier unlock the phone. the only true difference is carrier bloatware/ software which I'm hearing can be flashed using odin
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Thank you, that is what I need to know. Now what about getting a S8 or S8 Plus instead? Are those rootable? I mean does it even matter any more? The only thing I really want root for is Youtube Ad Block, but what the crap, mine as well just pay 10 bucks a month and get Youtube Red and allow my phone to update it self all the time.
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What about S8 or S8 Plus? Root those or are people still having trouble? I think Samsung has finally figured out how to make it really difficult. Seems like it is not even worth it anymore.
AtlantaBB said:
Thank you, that is what I need to know. Now what about getting a S8 or S8 Plus instead? Are those rootable? I mean does it even matter any more? The only thing I really want root for is Youtube Ad Block, but what the crap, mine as well just pay 10 bucks a month and get Youtube Red and allow my phone to update it self all the time.
What about S8 or S8 Plus? Root those or are people still having trouble? I think Samsung has finally figured out how to make it really difficult. Seems like it is not even worth it anymore.
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from what I hear it is possible to root the s8, but it limits your max battery charge to 80%? kinda a **** trade off if you ask me.
so I'm like you I thought I must have root, my last android was a Nexus with a completely unlocked boot loader and I flashed custom roms when I tired of my current rom. that was four years ago and I've been jailbroke iOS since. do you still need root?
most people will say no. if they say absolutely the main arguments I've heard are for xposed(which doesn't even work on android 7) and viper4android (or some similar name, a sound tweak I think) besides those two, removing bloatware, and hosts file ad blocking.
my personal experience: I will be giving up an unlocked boot loader by purchasing the note 8. this mean no custom roms. I haven't given up hope for a future possible root method, but I am willing to accept that it may never come or when it does we can only charge to 80% or something else ridiculous. I don't need root, I would like it, but I will compromise.
tldr;probably not, especially if you are willing to sub to YouTube red for 10$ a month.
AtlantaBB said:
Thank you, that is what I need to know. Now what about getting a S8 or S8 Plus instead? Are those rootable?
What about S8 or S8 Plus? Root those or are people still having trouble? I think Samsung has finally figured out how to make it really difficult. Seems like it is not even worth it anymore.
I mean does it even matter any more? The only thing I really want root for is Youtube Ad Block, but what the crap, mine as well just pay 10 bucks a month and get Youtube Red and allow my phone to update it self all the time.
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The issue is that the Snapdragons have locked bootloaders but you need a SD version to use the Sprint network. It doesn't matter if you buy a Note 8 or an S8, the issue with the locked bootloader is the same.
For me personally, I need root because a lot of the apps I have use root. If you only wanted to block ads on YouTube, it's probably unnecessary and far more hassle than it's worth.
purchasedPhone said:
from what I hear it is possible to root the s8, but it limits your max battery charge to 80%? kinda a **** trade off if you ask me.
so I'm like you I thought I must have root, my last android was a Nexus with a completely unlocked boot loader and I flashed custom roms when I tired of my current rom. that was four years ago and I've been jailbroke iOS since. do you still need root?
most people will say no. if they say absolutely the main arguments I've heard are for xposed(which doesn't even work on android 7) and viper4android (or some similar name, a sound tweak I think) besides those two, removing bloatware, and hosts file ad blocking.
my personal experience: I will be giving up an unlocked boot loader by purchasing the note 8. this mean no custom roms. I haven't given up hope for a future possible root method, but I am willing to accept that it may never come or when it does we can only charge to 80% or something else ridiculous. I don't need root, I would like it, but I will compromise.
tldr;probably not, especially if you are willing to sub to YouTube red for 10$ a month.
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Torquemada288 said:
The issue is that the Snapdragons have locked bootloaders but you need a SD version to use the Sprint network. It doesn't matter if you buy a Note 8 or an S8, the issue with the locked bootloader is the same.
For me personally, I need root because a lot of the apps I have use root. If you only wanted to block ads on YouTube, it's probably unnecessary and far more hassle than it's worth.
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Last question. I saw on another thread that this ... Is this true? Should I buy one that is unlocked from Amazon or the Samsung site and get hotspot or can I get hotspot on the Sprint one or do I need to search for the perfect app to do it? Which would be easier?
Unlocked version:
Hotspot - Awesome
Download Booster - Awesome
No Bloat - Awesome
Wi-Fi Calling - working awesomely
Sprint Version:
LTE Calling - I might miss, might be worth flashing Sprint mod when available...
Please Advise.
AtlantaBB said:
Last question. I saw on another thread that this ... Is this true? Should I buy one that is unlocked from Amazon or the Samsung site and get hotspot or can I get hotspot on the Sprint one or do I need to search for the perfect app to do it? Which would be easier?
Unlocked version:
Hotspot - Awesome
Download Booster - Awesome
No Bloat - Awesome
Wi-Fi Calling - working awesomely
Sprint Version:
LTE Calling - I might miss, might be worth flashing Sprint mod when available...
Please Advise.
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Sorry, I can't provide any guidance in this area. I'm in Australia and don't have experience with the inclusions/exclusions on specific American networks such as Sprint. I do know they use CDMA technology, which the Exynos SoC doesn't support.
Hopefully, one of the other enlightened souls on this forum can help you with this question.
AtlantaBB said:
Last question. I saw on another thread that this ... Is this true? Should I buy one that is unlocked from Amazon or the Samsung site and get hotspot or can I get hotspot on the Sprint one or do I need to search for the perfect app to do it? Which would be easier?
Unlocked version:
Hotspot - Awesome
Download Booster - Awesome
No Bloat - Awesome
Wi-Fi Calling - working awesomely
Sprint Version:
LTE Calling - I might miss, might be worth flashing Sprint mod when available...
Please Advise.
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I am on Sprint and am currently utilizing what I posted above as working...I am still finding out other working options as well...ask me about an option and I'll tell you if it is working on the unlocked version.
BlueFox721 said:
I am on Sprint and am currently utilizing what I posted above as working...I am still finding out other working options as well...ask me about an option and I'll tell you if it is working on the unlocked version.
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My question is do I need to get the unlocked version for hot spot to work or will it work with the Sprint version?
Torquemada288 said:
Sorry, I can't provide any guidance in this area. I'm in Australia and don't have experience with the inclusions/exclusions on specific American networks such as Sprint. I do know they use CDMA technology, which the Exynos SoC doesn't support.
Hopefully, one of the other enlightened souls on this forum can help you with this question.
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Thanks for the heads up. I really appreciate it.
AtlantaBB said:
My question is do I need to get the unlocked version for hot spot to work or will it work with the Sprint version?
Thanks for the heads up. I really appreciate it.
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The Sprint Version will cut out the download booster and hot spot unless your plan includes it but include calling plus features which include their version of the Wi-Fi Calling and LTE Calling for surfing over calls....but we already have that with Wi-Fi calling...Sprint also has Bloat software such as VVM but I install Google Voice for voicmail...it is up to you...at this point I have found no function lost.
Oops...I forgot to mention that they may update more frequently or sooner
BlueFox721 said:
The Sprint Version will cut out the download booster and hot spot unless your plan includes it but include calling plus features which include their version of the Wi-Fi Calling and LTE Calling for surfing over calls....but we already have that with Wi-Fi calling...Sprint also has Bloat software such as VVM but I install Google Voice for voicmail...it is up to you...at this point I have found no function lost.
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That is extremely important. Do I have this right? If I buy the unlocked version. Can I surf the internet while on the phone with the unlocked version from Amazon or Samsung or do I need to buy the Spring Version?
Am I understanding that right or did you mean something else?
AtlantaBB said:
That is extremely important. Do I have this right? If I buy the unlocked version. Can I surf the internet while on the phone with the unlocked version from Amazon or Samsung or do I need to buy the Spring Version?
Am I understanding that right or did you mean something else?
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When I called my wife on Wi-Fi Calling i was able to surf the web as well...I'll double check tomorrow when she is awake though
I have the unlocked version arriving soon and I will be using it with sprint. (With the free 1 year promo)
AFIK only the sprint and unlocked versions are whitelisted to work on sprint. Any other snapdragon models you will need to request a manual request to add your IMEI to the sprint database.
And I believe the Exynos models isn't compatible with CDMA at all, something with licensing or patent issues with Qualcomm.
BlueFox721 said:
When I called my wife on Wi-Fi Calling i was able to surf the web as well...I'll double check tomorrow when she is awake though
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Oh I mean not on wifi - calling I am just talking about 4G LTE. I mean I have the note 3 right now. LOL. I know super old. I can talk on the cell network 4G LTE and surf the internet at the same time. Can you do that with the Unlocked Version and the Sprint Version or one or the other?
Agenesis said:
I have the unlocked version arriving soon and I will be using it with sprint. (With the free 1 year promo)
AFIK only the sprint and unlocked versions are whitelisted to work on sprint. Any other snapdragon models you will need to request a manual request to add your IMEI to the sprint database.
And I believe the Exynos models isn't compatible with CDMA at all, something with licensing or patent issues with Qualcomm.
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So the one from Amazon or Samsung, you should be fine, Yes the Exyons wont work. That is a bummer.
AtlantaBB said:
Oh I mean not on wifi - calling I am just talking about 4G LTE. I mean I have the note 3 right now. LOL. I know super old. I can talk on the cell network 4G LTE and surf the internet at the same time. Can you do that with the Unlocked Version and the Sprint Version or one or the other?
So the one from Amazon or Samsung, you should be fine, Yes the Exyons wont work. That is a bummer.
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Since the Note 3 call over data was lost...so they have been trying to implement it in New technologies
https://www.androidcentral.com/volte
BlueFox721 said:
Since the Note 3 call over data was lost...so they have been trying to implement it in New technologies
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Are you serious. I will be giving up call over data? WHY? Is this like that for Verizon and AT&T? Have they all lost call over data or do they just not want you to be able to do it?
Should I keep my Note 3 for that very reason?
Does any phone like the S8 or S8 Plus have call over data?
AtlantaBB said:
Are you serious. I will be giving up call over data? WHY? Is this like that for Verizon and AT&T? Have they all lost call over data or do they just not want you to be able to do it?
Should I keep my Note 3 for that very reason?
Does any phone like the S8 or S8 Plus have call over data?
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https://www.androidcentral.com/volte
I am coming from Note 3 as well
BlueFox721 said:
Since the Note 3 call over data was lost...so they have been trying to implement it in New technologies
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Oh my goodness, looks like my note 3 has two antennas and the newer phones have only 1. that is why i can do both. Why would they make the service worse?
https://community.sprint.com/t5/Buz...e-same-time-with-Sprint-s-Calling/ba-p/961338
The Note 8 wipes the Note 3 out

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