I am requesting an official Sub-Forum for the Sprint Galaxy S4 Tri-Band.
While most roms work from the original variant, None of them support the radio correctly. As an example, using any kernel on stock TW will kill the radio, and users have to search and wade through the SPH-L720 forums to find info/files for our device.
A sub forum with the requirement of supporting the Tri-band version would be helpful to the Sprint S4 community, as it would stop much of the confusion of using the same forum, when it is not the same device. I also believe it would help gather more attention for what is now the standard sprint S4.
P.S. I have posted this in the appropriate thread, I just want to see how much of you want the same thing.
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I am requesting an official Sub-Forum for the Sprint Galaxy S4 Tri-Band.
While most roms work from the original variant, None of them support the radio correctly. As an example, using any kernel on stock TW will kill the radio, and users have to search and wade through the SPH-L720 forums to find info/files for our device.
A sub forum with the requirement of supporting the Tri-band version would be helpful to the Sprint S4 community, as it would stop much of the confusion of using the same forum, when it is not the same device. I also believe it would help gather more attention for what is now the standard sprint S4.
P.S. I have posted this in the appropriate thread, I just want to see how much of you want the same thing.
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Absolutely!
We have needed this for quite some time now... Just having a thread or a few is not enough, come on XDA Administration, don't you think it has been long overdue?
I would like a sub forum for it.
Agreed, I realize it is a pain to setup for a small(?) Amount of users, but it would be much more convenient to locate information on my phone.
Sorry guys. This will not happen. What needs to be done is ROM developers need to properly label in their titles or OPs whether the tri-band is properly supported. As stated the same ROMs flash and do not cause bricks so there is no danger therefore no needed extra forum.
It's not just ROMS, it's also T specific tweaks.
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It's not just ROMS, it's also T specific tweaks.
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Which can be made into a flashable zip....point is, there is no danger to either version. This is a development site and people should understand what they are flashing on their phone. As mentioned...ask that developers properly label their OP or thread title whether or not tri-band is supported.
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Which can be made into a flashable zip....point is, there is no danger to either version. This is a development site and people should understand what they are flashing on their phone. As mentioned...ask that developers properly label their OP or thread title whether or not tri-band is supported.
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No disrespect to you, but I think you are missing the point as to why have a sub forum with-in this forum. There are so many questions throughout this forum now that are mixed in with other threads and digging through to find the information is a challenge for anyone new. A lot of the questions for the T version become un-answered. If there were a place where all the threads could be in one place that would be great! Besides it would not be hard for it to be added. The only reason I could think of is if no one wanted to mod the section to keep people in check.
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No disrespect to you, but I think you are missing the point as to why have a sub forum with-in this forum. There are so many questions throughout this forum now that are mixed in with other threads and digging through to find the information is a challenge for anyone new. A lot of the questions for the T version become un-answered. If there were a place where all the threads could be in one place that would be great! Besides it would not be hard for it to be added. The only reason I could think of is if no one wanted to mod the section to keep people in check.
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Moderation is not an issue at all. It would just be included in the US Samsung team of 48 existing devices. I think the point is being missed that there is not enough differences in hardware to warrant it as 99% of the work is compatible and the only issues will be not taking full advantage of the tri-band spectrum. Look at the Galaxy Nexus forum. There is an international device and a Sprint CDMA device sharing the same forum just fine. The only difference is that the international ROMs WILL brick the Sprint device so another development subforum was added. In this case all you would need to do is flash a compatible ROM. Add to that this is not the place to ask for more device forums. It is here. But as I said, I can guarantee it will be denied based on the reasons I already stated.
The only T specific questions that I would expect to see are issues with tri-band connectivity (welcome to Sprint) and what ROMs are T-friendly. If the ROM threads are properly titled then there would be no need for the last question.
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Moderation is not an issue at all. It would just be included in the US Samsung team of 48 existing devices. I think the point is being missed that there is not enough differences in hardware to warrant it as 99% of the work is compatible and the only issues will be not taking full advantage of the tri-band spectrum. Look at the Galaxy Nexus forum. There is an international device and a Sprint CDMA device sharing the same forum just fine. The only difference is that the international ROMs WILL brick the Sprint device so another development subforum was added. In this case all you would need to do is flash a compatible ROM. Add to that this is not the place to ask for more device forums. It is here. But as I said, I can guarantee it will be denied based on the reasons I already stated.
The only T specific questions that I would expect to see are issues with tri-band connectivity (welcome to Sprint) and what ROMs are T-friendly. If the ROM threads are properly titled then there would be no need for the last question.
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The only problem with that theory is that MOST GS4 owners have the earlier version. So they can't add Tri Band support to their rom.
This sub forum would be a place where you KNOW everything has Tri Band.
It would actually push developers to support Tri Band because currently nobody does.
My main point being is that it wouldn't hurt anyone. It would only help those of us that have the upgraded model.
Also TW Kernels break the radio on stock. JS
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The only problem with that theory is that MOST GS4 owners have the earlier version. So they can't add Tri Band support to their rom.
This sub forum would be a place where you KNOW everything has Tri Band.
It would actually push developers to support Tri Band because currently nobody does.
My main point being is that it wouldn't hurt anyone. It would only help those of us that have the upgraded model.
Also TW Kernels break the radio on stock. JS
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I gave you the link to where you can post your request. My point is that devices with similar hardware do not get their own forum. It does not get done unless there is potential for damage to the other device...there isn't. You can flash any ROM on either device. If you realize you are one of the few with a tri-band phone and your LTE isn't working you would simply flash a ROM that does support it. Unless you can show that there is a potential for damage then you will have to read the OP of the ROMs you are choosing to flash on your $700 device..sounds like something everyone should be doing.
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I gave you the link to where you can post your request. My point is that devices with similar hardware do not get their own forum. It does not get done unless there is potential for damage to the other device...there isn't. You can flash any ROM on either device. If you realize you are one of the few with a tri-band phone and your LTE isn't working you would simply flash a ROM that does support it. Unless you can show that there is a potential for damage then you will have to read the OP of the ROMs you are choosing to flash on your $700 device..sounds like something everyone should be doing.
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Already posted in the thread for forum requests. Before I made this thread actually.
This is to spread awareness that it should be done, and by the poll i think most people agree.
It's like Cyanogenmod. you don't have an official build until EVERY hardware feature is supported.
I really don't get why anyone would have anything against this change. it doesn't hurt the website, it doesn't hurt the regular L720 forum.
It benefits the community. which i'm pretty sure is what this website is about.
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Already posted in the thread for forum requests. Before I made this thread actually.
This is to spread awareness that it should be done, and by the poll i think most people agree.
It's like Cyanogenmod. you don't have an official build until EVERY hardware feature is supported.
I really don't get why anyone would have anything against this change. it doesn't hurt the website, it doesn't hurt the regular L720 forum.
It benefits the community. which i'm pretty sure is what this website is about.
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Actually this is a development site created by developers for developers. It is not a support site. As for your poll of 13 votes, it is kind of biased as only people with that device are voting...not much difference in asking a teenager "Do you want your own room." I hardly think 13 people are going to sway admin to start a new precedent. You don't seem to understand that there are MANY devices with more than one release of a hardware variant. As it is now members go to the wrong S4 forum. Look at the big picture for once..imagine a site with another 1000 forums due to slight hardware vbariances...only requiring one thing..for the member to read. If you go to the Sprint HTC M8 forums there is 2 devices there...the original M8 release and the Harman-Kardon device. If you flash ROMs without the H-K files or firmware you will lose the Harman-Kardon features...that does not justify making their own forum...and guarantee you will get 13 votes if you had a similar poll there. This is not about fighting you on one small community of devices, this is about a site precedent and not spoon feeding members for every little thing. It is expected that members do the research before flashing anything...if they do not know to check for the proper support in a ROM then they should not be flashing ROMs. They should stay on stock and get the full support the manufacturer has provided.
The best thing that someone can do for development and the community is to make a thread in General of all the ROMs that support the T device. Keep it maintained with any updates and new work. THAT is how you help the community. I see one has been created...excellent! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2660866
I appreciate your passion for this request but you really are not seeing beyond your own needs here. You have to look at the big picture and how this site is set up and run....not that we are failing to grant you this "small" request. And did you not think that this would mean developers would have to support 2 threads in 2 forums rather than one thread in one forum and have a flashable zip to make it T compatible. Developers time is valuable as they do this for free, as a hobby and with great cost to their personal and family time. Most do not want to create and support an additional thread and ROM for such a minor variance. If there is ever a firmware upgrade that causes bricks between these variants I am sure Admin will look at this request more closely.
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Actually this is a development site created by developers for developers. It is not a support site. As for your poll of 13 votes, it is kind of biased as only people with that device are voting...not much difference in asking a teenager "Do you want your own room." I hardly think 13 people are going to sway admin to start a new precedent. You don't seem to understand that there are MANY devices with more than one release of a hardware variant. As it is now members go to the wrong S4 forum. Look at the big picture for once..imagine a site with another 1000 forums due to slight hardware vbariances...only requiring one thing..for the member to read. If you go to the Sprint HTC M8 forums there is 2 devices there...the original M8 release and the Harman-Kardon device. If you flash ROMs without the H-K files or firmware you will lose the Harman-Kardon features...that does not justify making their own forum...and guarantee you will get 13 votes if you had a similar poll there. This is not about fighting you on one small community of devices, this is about a site precedent and not spoon feeding members for every little thing. It is expected that members do the research before flashing anything...if they do not know to check for the proper support in a ROM then they should not be flashing ROMs. They should stay on stock and get the full support the manufacturer has provided.
The best thing that someone can do for development and the community is to make a thread in General of all the ROMs that support the T device. Keep it maintained with any updates and new work. THAT is how you help the community. I see one has been created...excellent! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2660866
I appreciate your passion for this request but you really are not seeing beyond your own needs here. You have to look at the big picture and how this site is set up and run....not that we are failing to grant you this "small" request. And did you not think that this would mean developers would have to support 2 threads in 2 forums rather than one thread in one forum and have a flashable zip to make it T compatible. Developers time is valuable as they do this for free, as a hobby and with great cost to their personal and family time. Most do not want to create and support an additional thread and ROM for such a minor variance. If there is ever a firmware upgrade that causes bricks between these variants I am sure Admin will look at this request more closely.
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I get it, I really do, but a sub-forum really wouldn't get in the way of anything. i'm not really asking for a whole new forum. That thread just says what works, none of them support the radio itself. But is a sub forum where we can take care of each other easier really spoon feeding?
Like under the theme and apps forum have our 720T specific forum.
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I get it, I really do, but a sub-forum really wouldn't get in the way of anything. i'm not really asking for a whole new forum. That thread just says what works, none of them support the radio itself. But is a sub forum where we can take care of each other easier really spoon feeding?
Like under the theme and apps forum have our 720T specific forum.
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I really don't think you do. If you did, then you would realize that making a seperate subforum for people who cannot be bothered to read an OP IS spoon-feeding. If there is no damage to the phone then simply properly labeling the thread title resolves this. Also as mentioned, a proper flashable zip with radio and support files will also make all ROMs compatible.
After lurking for years, I will make my first post in support of this idea.
I am in favor of this I have an 720 and a 720t would make it a little easier.
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I really get what Kenny is saying .... but it isn't just the roms. Many of the xposed modules do not work for example. And I am not sure whether its being 4.4.2 or 720T. I can't get tethering to work without paying for an app (which I did). There is a 66 page thread about 720T related stuff because its just different enough to be a pia. At the very least we should all maybe try to label every 720t post with [720T] so that its easily searchable. Still means we have to do a search every time, but would be a little better in the meantime. Also, I had no idea there was such a thing as a 720T until I got this one as an insurance replacement. Perhaps this thread will at least let others in the forums know that such a thing exists and encourage everyone to specify 720 vs 720T when they are making posts so as to avoid confusion.
Yes, absolutely. I was thinking the same exact thing. This is a unique device that needs a sub forum.
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Hello All,
I realize this issue has been addressed, and there are a few short threads on the topic. Frankly, I am surprised that there is not more chatter regarding the lack of Android 6.0 - Marshmallow for Nexus 6 devices purchased through T-Mobile!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am no expert, but would not consider myself in the "noob" category. I am fully aware of the wider LTE spectrum required for T-Mobile Nexus devices, i.e. Band 12, as well as carrier enabled Wi-Fi calling over T-Mobile's network.
I just can't seem to understand how almost 2 months later, my d*mn Nexus 6 is still on 5.1.1. ?!?!?!?
Does anyone have anymore insight regarding this? Can we discuss and find out WHY they are still in their "Testing" phase? Honestly, I'm glad that they are doing the properly required due diligence and QA testing, but 2 months?!?!?!?!? COME ON T-Mobile/Google!
At this point, I would NOT be surprised to get 6.0 on my Note 5 before my Nexus 6. Wait, on second thought, I doubt it. Will probably get it after the Note 7 comes out.
And please don't tell me I can flash the factory image from https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images?hl=en I am fully aware and we have all gone this route plenty of times. I simply want to start a meaningful discussion that may shed some light on WHAT in the WORLD is taking T-Mobile so long to finish validating their Marshmallow build, or if it's not truly that, then what is the hold up??????
Do you really think your going to get a meaningful discussion here? Especially when your ranting your head off throwing caps around and cursing in the thread title?
Regardless of if its what you want to hear or not... Google made the update available for you the instant it came out. If you have chosen not to take it, then that was your choice.
Wait patiently, or make the choice to go take the update... Those are your options.
Cursing in the title? I took the courtesy of censoring it, if you haven't noticed and Hell isn't exactly a "bad word". Relax man, it isn't directed at you or anyone else for that matter. If you have nothing "meaningful" to say, then why waste time even replying. Didn't realize there were so many sensitive females on this website.
It's quite obvious you don't like to read things in it's entirety prior to replying to a stranger. I would recommend Neurontin, or maybe Zoloft. Might help with the impulse control.
Punctuation exists for a reason. If I want to complain about a Nexus branded device not receiving a major update two months after release within the context of a website that exists to discuss just these types of issues, I will.
Again, Neurontin... ENN, EE, YOU, ARR, OH, ENN, TEE, EYE, ENN. Talk with your shrink about it. Might help get your head out of your rectum. Unless of course your father prefers it that way.
Then by all means, carry on.
Anyhow, spoke to a T-Mobile tech support representative, not that they have ever been much help historically, but apparently they are testing T-Mobile specific applications to ensure that they play well with Android 6.0 (He Mentioned Visual Voicemail, T-Mobile My Account, etc.). Does that mean that the Nexus 6 devices purchased via T-Mobile will have a disparate build? Based on what this guy said, it looks like it.
Another reason why I didn't just blindly flash the Universal builds. Not to mention, many T-Mobile customers who have already done so, are experiencing bugs with their devices and/or broken functionality.
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Cursing in the title? I took the courtesy of censoring it, if you haven't noticed and Hell isn't exactly a "bad word". Relax man, it isn't directed at you or anyone else for that matter. If you have nothing "meaningful" to say, then why waste time even replying. Didn't realize there were so many sensitive females on this website.
It's quite obvious you don't like to read things in it's entirety prior to replying to a stranger. I would recommend Neurontin, or maybe Zoloft. Might help with the impulse control.
Punctuation exists for a reason. If I want to complain about a Nexus branded device not receiving a major update two months after release within the context of a website that exists to discuss just these types of issues, I will.
Again, Neurontin... ENN, EE, YOU, ARR, OH, ENN, TEE, EYE, ENN. Talk with your shrink about it. Might help get your head out of your rectum. Unless of course your father prefers it that way.
Then by all means, carry on.
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That was a great delivery, lmao.
I don't give a **** if you say hell. Just saying if you want the reasonable conversation your claim to, your doing a pretty ****ing bad job of starting it.
Your Nexus branded devices DOES have an update. You're just waiting for it to be sent to you, by all means continue to do so.
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I don't give a **** if you say hell. Just saying if you want the reasonable conversation your claim to, your doing a pretty ****ing bad job of starting it.
Your Nexus branded devices DOES have an update. You're just waiting for it to be sent to you, by all means continue to do so.
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Son, you really DO NOT know what you are talking about. Go look at the Factory Image page at https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images?hl=en , now go to Shamu, and read the images (might take a bit of scrolling, so resist the urge to give up and rant and rave, in an attempt to teach me etiquette). Do you see where it says "5.1.0 (For T-Mobile ONLY) (LMY47M)" or "5.1.1 (For T-Mobile ONLY) (LYZ28E)" or "5.1.1 (For T-Mobile ONLY) (LYZ28J)" or 5.1.1 "(For T-Mobile ONLY) (LYZ28K)" or "5.1.1 (For T-Mobile ONLY) (LYZ28M)" or "5.1.1 (For T-Mobile ONLY) (LYZ28N)"??
Again, impulse control. Do a little research before replying. Not to mention VoLTE and Cat 14 LTE that only T-Mobile uses (in this country, and at this time). Not saying that the universal build absolutely WON'T work, but there are more than a few stories out there stating that exact opposite. I for one, would like to wait for a build that is catered to the frequencies of my Mobile network for the simple fact that it will address all of those incompatibility issues.
Anger issues? Abused as a child? Watch your dirty little mouth. Also, learn some basic grammar "I don't give a **** if you say hell. Just saying if you want the reasonable conversation "your" claim to, "your"doing a pretty ****ing bad job of starting it"?
I think you meant "you" and you're"
How do we go from hell to F***? You're one sick little boy.
Moderator, please close this thread, as you deem fit.
Also, many people who have downloaded the universal image, wiped their devices, and installed the update, have had to root, downgrade their Radio for 5.1.1. just to get an LTE signal and WiFi calling as well as a number of other features to work properly.
Again, read before you reply.
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Son, you really DO NOT know what you are talking about. Go look at the Factory Image page at https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images?hl=en , now go to Shamu, and read the images (might take a bit of scrolling, so resist the urge to give up and rant and rave, in an attempt to teach me etiquette). Do you see where it says "5.1.0 (For T-Mobile ONLY) (LMY47M)" or "5.1.1 (For T-Mobile ONLY) (LYZ28E)" or "5.1.1 (For T-Mobile ONLY) (LYZ28J)" or 5.1.1 "(For T-Mobile ONLY) (LYZ28K)" or "5.1.1 (For T-Mobile ONLY) (LYZ28M)" or "5.1.1 (For T-Mobile ONLY) (LYZ28N)"??
Again, impulse control. Do a little research before replying. Not to mention VoLTE and Cat 14 LTE that only T-Mobile uses (in this country, and at this time). Not saying that the universal build absolutely WON'T work, but there are more than a few stories out there stating that exact opposite. I for one, would like to wait for a build that is catered to the frequencies of my Mobile network for the simple fact that it will address all of those incompatibility issues.
Anger issues? Abused as a child? Watch your dirty little mouth. Also, learn some basic grammar "I don't give a **** if you say hell. Just saying if you want the reasonable conversation "your" claim to, "your"doing a pretty ****ing bad job of starting it"?
I think you meant "you" and you're"
How do we go from hell to F***? You're one sick little boy.
Moderator, please close this thread, as you deem fit.
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theres only one build for marshmallow. no matter which carrier you use, you use the same build. yes, wifi calling works on it. lte, volte, and everything else too. im on tmobile as well.
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Anger issues?
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Yes. You have them.
https://support.t-mobile.com/thread/116433
Please note, as documented by tmobile support, no tmobile specific build is presented because beginning with 6.0 its a unified build.
Android 6.0 (Marshmallow) is a unified build and is the same version across all carriers. WiFi Calling is baked into the OS.
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theres only one build for marshmallow. no matter which carrier you use, you use the same build. yes, wifi calling works on it. lte, volte, and everything else too. im on tmobile as well.
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simms22, thanks for the advice. I do realize that, and I have read as much for the most part. My main point was really an attempt at trying to gain an understanding as to why Nexus 6 devices from T-Mobile have not yet been updated to Marshmallow.
I appreciate your comment. I have also read about a number of incompatibility issues when flashing the universal build, so I like to err on the side of caution, especially considering that I use my Note 5 as a daily driver. Also, not trying to do a full wipe just yet (I realize I can do so without, but from what I have read, that is what is causing the bugs/incompatibility).
Like I stated earlier, the T-Mobile tech. rep. stated that there will be a T-Mobile specific build out soon. Now what that contains, I cannot say. Just trying to gain some insight. It could just be T-Mobile bloatware, though I am fairly certain they are addressing some of the known issues that are affecting a portion of Nexus 6 devices running Marshmallow on T-Mobile.
Thanks again.
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Yes. You have them.
https://support.t-mobile.com/thread/116433
Please note, as documented by tmobile support, no tmobile specific build is presented because beginning with 6.0 its a unified build.
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You just linked me to a site where a bunch of amateurs are discussing flashing a non standard build. Where, by the way, a person poses the question "a) Is that a T-Mobile Build? I am not seeing Wi-Fi calling related section anywhere"
Really, do you read anything before posting replying?
I would look at this page that T-Mobile has published.
https://support.t-mobile.com/community/phones-tablets-devices/software-updates#tmoSUPDocTitle
Do you see what it says? If you need help reading (and then pausing to process), let me know.
Here is a recap for people with learning disabilities (no offense if you really have one, seriously).
UPDATE PROCESS 3 stages. Current: Stage 2 T-Mobile testing.
Please man, just stop replying. Because I can keep making you look like your mother dropped you on your head all night.
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Yes. You have them.
https://support.t-mobile.com/thread/116433
Please note, as documented by tmobile support, no tmobile specific build is presented because beginning with 6.0 its a unified build.
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Also, do you see where the correct answer states "Flashing with a T-Mobile rom is going to require you to unlock your bootloader...." Key words "T-Mobile ROM"
Where does it say that all builds are unified starting at Android 6.0? That may be the case for all other carriers, but it is PRETTY obvious, that this does not apply to the T-Mobile build for 6.0.
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You just linked me to a site where a bunch of amateurs are discussing flashing a non standard build. Where, by the way, a person poses the question "a) Is that a T-Mobile Build? I am not seeing Wi-Fi calling related section anywhere"
Really, do you read anything before posting replying?
I would look at this page that T-Mobile has published.
https://support.t-mobile.com/community/phones-tablets-devices/software-updates#tmoSUPDocTitle
Do you see what it says? If you need help reading (and then pausing to process), let me know.
Here is a recap for people with learning disabilities (no offense if you really have one, seriously).
UPDATE PROCESS 3 stages. Current: Stage 2 T-Mobile testing.
Please man, just stop replying. Because I can keep making you look like your mother dropped you on your head all night.
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Your not really making me look like I have been dropped on my head, your making yourself look like a raving lunatic.
I gave you the same answer as simms, other than the fact that I linked to the official support site where the answer marked as correct supports what I said.
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Also, do you see where the correct answer states "Flashing with a T-Mobile rom is going to require you to unlock your bootloader...." Key words "T-Mobile ROM"
Where does it say that all builds are unified starting at Android 6.0? That may be the case for all other carriers, but it is PRETTY obvious, that this does not apply to the T-Mobile build for 6.0.
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Flashing ANY rom is going to require a bootloader unlock, so yes flashing a tmobile rom would require a bootloader unlock.
Other carriers then T-Mobile have a unified build? lol, check your definitions there man
u·ni·fy
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past tense: unified; past participle: unified
make or become united, uniform, or whole.
It's not united or uniform if its different for tmobile... the entire basis of a unified build is it's the same for everyone.
This thread is too good. Nothing but multiparagraph rants and personal insults from you about how others have anger issues. :laugh:
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Also, do you see where the correct answer states "Flashing with a T-Mobile rom is going to require you to unlock your bootloader...." Key words "T-Mobile ROM"
Where does it say that all builds are unified starting at Android 6.0? That may be the case for all other carriers, but it is PRETTY obvious, that this does not apply to the T-Mobile build for 6.0.
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6.0 is one build...I'm pretty sure everyone else that has upgraded by now have already said that...if I take my "sprint" nexus 6 and put a t-mobile sim in...and I have 6.0 after it realizes, hey, I'm on t-mobile...wifi calling will pop up and t-mobile service will work...and before you try to say I'm wrong or t-mobile knows better...why did this work when I tried just that to help someone with the same issue
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Your not really making me look like I have been dropped on my head, your making yourself look like a raving lunatic.
I gave you the same answer as simms, other than the fact that I linked to the official support site where the answer marked as correct supports what I said.
Flashing ANY rom is going to require a bootloader unlock, so yes flashing a tmobile rom would require a bootloader unlock.
Other carriers then T-Mobile have a unified build? lol, check your definitions there man
u·ni·fy
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verb
past tense: unified; past participle: unified
make or become united, uniform, or whole.
It's not united or uniform if its different for tmobile... the entire basis of a unified build is it's the same for everyone.
This thread is too good. Nothing but multiparagraph rants and personal insults from you about how others have anger issues. :laugh:
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Yes, I know how to flash an image and/or a ROM, unlocking the bootloader has nothing to do what this conversation, other than I do not want to wipe my device Einstein. Do you know how to SSH into a RHEL Server across a minimally perforated firewall to change jre environments for global profile enabled Linux applications on let's say, an Apache Web Server LBP?
I know how Linux works. Android is child's play.
You are completely ignoring the fact that there is a reason that T-Mobile Nexus 6 devices have NOT been given the green light for Android 6.0.
Really, why do you think that is? If it were such a simple solution, then it wouldn't have been 2 months and no update. Clearly, there are some technical details, that are probably WAY above your intrinsic level of comprehension, that are delaying the release of this image.
If you are too dense to comprehend that, then continuing this conversation is futile.
If anyone has any insight or information as to the delay, feel free to let me know.
Thanks.
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6.0 is one build...I'm pretty sure everyone else that has upgraded by now have already said that...if I take my "sprint" nexus 6 and put a t-mobile sim in...and I have 6.0 after it realizes, hey, I'm on t-mobile...wifi calling will pop up and t-mobile service will work...and before you try to say I'm wrong or t-mobile knows better...why did this work when I tried just that to help someone with the same issue
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Brother, no offense, I'm not following you. The reason Wi-Fi calling pops up when you throw a T-Mobile SIM card into a Sprint phone, is because Wi-Fi calling is baked into Android 5.1.1.
Sorry, not sure what point you are trying to make. You do know that on the Google Developers Factory Images page, there are T-Mobile specific builds for the Nexus 6 right?
Even Verizon users, just started receiving 6.0 in this past week. The only other time this happened was with the Samsung Galaxy Nexus, and we all know what happened there. Exact same thing I am talking about. As a matter of fact, (will link to it later), we have already had an in-depth discussion about this on a different forum on this site. There are in fact different builds for different carriers.
The Universal build WILL work, no one is saying that it won't, but keep doing some research and you will see that many (and I mean many) users have reported incompatibility and/or broken functionality when flashing the Factory Images on their T-Mobile and also Verizon devices.
As far as what you are saying about a T-Mobile SIm card working in a Sprint Nexus 6. I don't think anyone is arguing that. We all know that to be the case, although I can guarantee you that if you put a Verizon SIM card into your Sprint/AT&T/T-Mobile Nexus 6, it will NOT work.
I know because I have Verizon service (for work), and I have tried. That is less about the phone being locked, and more about non Verizon IMEI's being blacklisted. My point is, that we know that the Nexus 6 is unlocked. That is not the question I am asking here.
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Brother, no offense, I'm not following you. The reason Wi-Fi calling pops up when you throw a T-Mobile SIM card into a Sprint phone, is because Wi-Fi calling is baked into Android 5.1.1.
Sorry, not sure what point you are trying to make. You do know that on the Google Developers Factory Images page, there are T-Mobile specific builds for the Nexus 6 right?
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For LP yes.
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Even Verizon users, just started receiving 6.0 in this past week.
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Yup, VZW took their sweet ass time testing and distributing it too.
Yet check that developer image page... and where is the VZW MM image?
Just because the carrier has not pushed it as an OTA does not mean it's a different build, because M is unified. So even though it took until last week for VZW to push it to their phones.... It's the same unified build that has been out this whole time.
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As far as what you are saying about a T-Mobile SIm card working in a Sprint Nexus 6. I don't think anyone is arguing that. We all know that to be the case, although I can guarantee you that if you put a Verizon SIM card into your Sprint/AT&T/T-Mobile Nexus 6, it will NOT work.
I know because I have Verizon service, and I have tried. That is less about the phone being locked, and more about non Verizon IMEI's being blacklisted. My point is, that we know that the Nexus 6 is unlocked. That is not the question I am asking here.
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I have a non VZW phone btw, and on VZW with a VZW sim. It works fine. You need to do your reading on this one, lots of us don't have Verizon issued phones, its only ATT that is carrier locked.
Many people had issues getting VZW to activate their nexus 6, this was not technical as much as it was people bringing their phones to VZW and VZW declining. People also had issues not getting their discount for buying a phone outright, but from early launch you could stick a VZW sim into a nexus 6 and use it
See this droid life article from launch
http://www.droid-life.com/2014/10/31/nexus-6-working-on-verizon-out-of-the-box/
Enough ranting now...
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I have searched the forums and the web trying to find a thread for a "root progress" (like the one we had on the LG V30 side of the world) of our T-MOBILE/AT&T/VERIZON/SPRINT note 9, but didn't find any. If there is one already, please remove this thread and provide me a link to it if you may.
Anyway,
There are two reasons why I'm creating this thread:
1. We used to have forums that are carrier specific. It was very neat and organized. I'd never gotten confused on finding something related to my device. Now, it is just one and very very cluttered forum for all varients (to the point that I'm not sure which variant is rootable and which isn't. And that's why I left out the sprint varient because I'm honestly not sure). There are so many threads that makes it so hard to find what you're looking for.
2. I'd like to know if there are any devs out there that are working on root for this phone (on the carriers mentioned above) and whether they need help testing. If there is; I'm sure there are a ton of users who are willing to help, including me.
I'd love for some devs to chime in and give us some updates. Not asking for any ETAs, but would love to know if there is any work being done. If there is, then please consider this thread to share your progress with us
So, feel free to throw your comments on here. Also, if you're a user who's wondering about root, has thoughts about root, would like to chat about it, go ahead, vent it out.
Cheers
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I am also interest in US variant root progress. I am on Sprint though. Wish you had included us too in OP. I am willing to test out if anyone is developing.
Hi
Great idea, maybe if we show interest some of the dev's might take up the challenge.
We can hope.
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Wont ever happen thats why i returned it and got the 960f for tmobile i left sprijt
It's a pipe dream to get root on the US variants. Samsung has even blocked SamFail and similar root. The bootloaders cannot be unlocked and the snapdragon processor models are doomed.
Join @pbedard, myself, and others; return your snapdragon model and buy the 960F.
The Note 9 is great, but it's amazing with root. ??
K-alz said:
I have searched the forums and the web trying to find a thread for a "root progress" (like the one we had on the LG V30 side of the world) of our T-MOBILE/AT&T/VERIZON note 9, but didn't find any. If there is one already, please remove this thread and provide me a link to it if you may.
Anyway,
There are two reasons why I'm creating this thread:
1. We used to have forums that are carrier specific. It was very neat and organized. I'd never gotten confused on finding something related to my device. Now, it is just one and very very cluttered forum for all varients (to the point that I'm not sure which variant is rootable and which isn't. And that's why I left out the sprint varient because I'm honestly not sure). There are so many threads that makes it so hard to find what you're looking for.
2. I'd like to know if there are any devs out there that are working on root for this phone (on the carriers mentioned above) and whether they need help testing. If there is; I'm sure there are a ton of users who are willing to help, including me.
I'd love for some devs to chime in and give us some updates. Not asking for any ETAs, but would love to know if there is any work being done. If there is, then please consider this thread to share your progress with us
So, feel free to throw your comments on here. Also, if you're a user who's wondering about root, has thoughts about root, would like to chat about it, go ahead, vent it out.
Cheers
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carrier specific should be banned and never be implemented again.
it causes confusion and is just a waste of resources. people ask questions and get less visibility because 90% of all questions or releases are CPU based and not carrier related.
it's simply a less efficient way of going about things.
carrier related issues and questions should actually be discussed in that specific carriers website. what good is it to discuss or bring up carriers issues in xda when you actually want and need carriers support and visibility from their end to fix or correct their issues?
issues that are based on device type or general custom development should be kept on xda as is: by cpu. there are sections for general inquires and such that can easily be used for the 10% asking questions or support for a specific carrier.
BTW
extra extra read all about it:
no root for the n960 snapdragon. it's a moot point and progress is that there is no progress. I'd think if the people that were working and progressing getting root were actually getting somewhere they would have already posted info by now. speculative threads wishing for something is not progress and I don't think its gonna " attract " people to suddenly develope root because if it.
it will come when it does if it does.
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to prove my point for the carrier thing:
in Canada we also have the note 9 snapdragon.
960w Bell/rogers/telus/videotron/wind mobile...etc and so on.
should the forums be re-spliced for all of these too? lol no
Sorkovz said:
I am also interest in US variant root progress. I am on Sprint though. Wish you had included us too in OP. I am willing to test out if anyone is developing.
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Sorry, budd. Didn't know that you guys didn't have root either. I'll edit later.
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The way Samsung has been locking phones the past few years I'm starting to wonder why I shouldn't try an iPhone out.
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deh2002 said:
The way Samsung has been locking phones the past few years I'm starting to wonder why I shouldn't try an iPhone out.
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I was telling myself the same thing.. then snapped out of it and got an LG lol. Get a Pixel or any other brand if you value root.
deh2002 said:
The way Samsung has been locking phones the past few years I'm starting to wonder why I shouldn't try an iPhone out.
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its really the carriers imo.. well the US mainly haha.. most all other devices are unlockable outside of the US..
but agreed, especially with the RMM stuff they implemented recently even on unlockable devices..
Megaflop666 said:
It's a pipe dream to get root on the US variants. Samsung has even blocked SamFail and similar root. The bootloaders cannot be unlocked and the snapdragon processor models are doomed.
Join @pbedard, myself, and others; return your snapdragon model and buy the 960F.
The Note 9 is great, but it's amazing with root. [emoji1303]
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I honestly cant afford to pay for this phone outright. I wish I could. I would've gotten the exynos varient and called it a day, financing through tmobile was the only option I had to get my hands on this phone. Even without root, it's still a stellar phone.
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Is root even worth it anymore tbh ? What if we tried to get Volte and wifi calling working on the unbranded firmware ?
K-alz said:
I honestly cant afford to pay for this phone outright. I wish I could. I would've gotten the exynos varient and called it a day, financing through tmobile was the only option I had to get my hands on this phone. Even without root, it's still a stellar phone.
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You could have gotten one on ebay and pay it over six months with the PayPal Credit option. That's what I did to get Exynos model.
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daniel4653 said:
You could have gotten one on ebay and pay it over six months with the PayPal Credit option. That's what I did to get Exynos model.
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Didn't know that. Crap. I missed my chance :/
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