[Q] NFC or Bluetooth? - AT&T Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Which is better for battery life on my Note 3, NFC or Bluetooth when I use my Gear?

nviz22 said:
Which is better for battery life on my Note 3, NFC or Bluetooth when I use my Gear?
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NFC and Bluetooth are used differently. Bluetooth maintains a constant connection where as NFC is used for a temporary quick connection. Bluetooth uses more battery.

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Anyone got the SBH20 Bluetooth headset yet?

http://www.sonymobile.com/global-en/products/accessories/stereo-bluetooth-headset-sbh20/
Looks promising, especially for owners of the Xperia V who are afraid their flaps will eventually get loose. I was thinking of getting one (primarily in order to use it with headphones to listen to music on the go), but I'm afraid having Bluetooth activated over longer periods will accelerate battery drain. So I was wondering - is anybody using it already? And if yes, how is battery life affected when using it?
Also, does it ship with earphones? I already got the ones from my V which I don't use, and I don't need another pair honestly ...
vonotny said:
http://www.sonymobile.com/global-en/products/accessories/stereo-bluetooth-headset-sbh20/
Looks promising, especially for owners of the Xperia V who are afraid their flaps will eventually get loose. I was thinking of getting one (primarily in order to use it with headphones to listen to music on the go), but I'm afraid having Bluetooth activated over longer periods will accelerate battery drain. So I was wondering - is anybody using it already? And if yes, how is battery life affected when using it?
Also, does it ship with earphones? I already got the ones from my V which I don't use, and I don't need another pair honestly ...
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According to the link you provide, you can use NFC
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Erica Law said:
According to the link you provide, you can use NFC
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But that still means a wireless connection and battery drain, no?
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vonotny said:
But that still means a wireless connection and battery drain, no?
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Just got it today, it's really nice, but NFC function is really useless, it connects the headset and turns bluetooth on, but you have to use NFC fuction always on which drains the battery more then idle bluetooth. So I connected it manually and it connects automatically each time I turn headset on with all the devices it was once connected. It's good for those who use NFC a lot.
petyasb said:
Just got it today, it's really nice, but NFC function is really useless, it connects the headset and turns bluetooth on, but you have to use NFC fuction always on which drains the battery more then idle bluetooth. So I connected it manually and it connects automatically each time I turn headset on with all the devices it was once connected. It's good for those who use NFC a lot.
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And how much does Bluetooth drain the battery when you use the headset? That's my main concern.
vonotny said:
And how much does Bluetooth drain the battery when you use the headset? That's my main concern.
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I've never used the sbh20, but i use a similar bluetooth headset by nokia and i always connect my T to the car stereo with bluetooth to listen to spotify's music..in the beginning i was scared as you by a possible battery drain, but in the end you don't have to worry...It uses 1/2% of battery for 15-20 minutes of music, not bad imho!
vonotny said:
And how much does Bluetooth drain the battery when you use the headset? That's my main concern.
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Somebody on this forum told about Xperia that useing bluetooth headset takes less power then listening to music through wired headphones plugged directly to the phone, not sure though.
My experience shows that NFC feature takes 1-2% more than idle bluetooth on my Sony Xperia Acro S through the night.
Thanks guys!
Btw., I just ordered it for my birthday
I think some people are misunderstanding NFC here, the music isnt streamed through NFC, It would be usless if that was the case. It uses bluetooth to stream, the initial connection to the device is created via a tap with NFC enabled. NFC only works in the proximity of a couple of MM.
My experince with bluetooth headphones is very positive, barely any battery drain directly with bluetooth headphones and liveview attached to my XperiaT.
I use a bluetooth speaker in my car and find the battery drain is significantly less than playing it through the devices inbuilt speaker.
What can you say with the quality of sound? Difference between the generic headset from out of the box came from the phone and the headset include in sbh20. Thanks
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ill order one for myself. RM145 here in malaysia.. thanks for this info!
Got mine today, in sexy white, to fit my iPod earphones Now I've got several Sony chargers and earphones which I don't use ...
Anyway, the SBH20 is great, makes the phone a proper MP3 player PLUS it doubles as a headset. Very comfortable. Also: no more opening my V's flaps
I got one too. Now I don't have to lug my hefty phone in my pockets or hand to listen to music \
soncarl said:
What can you say with the quality of sound? Difference between the generic headset from out of the box came from the phone and the headset include in sbh20. Thanks
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The earphones are alright. They're more or less the same than the stock earphones.
Inquiry about SBH20
petyasb said:
Just got it today, it's really nice, but NFC function is really useless, it connects the headset and turns bluetooth on, but you have to use NFC fuction always on which drains the battery more then idle bluetooth. So I connected it manually and it connects automatically each time I turn headset on with all the devices it was once connected. It's good for those who use NFC a lot.
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Hello. I am looking to buy Sony SBH20 to use with my Lumia 920 and desktop computer. Currently I am using a Jabra Street 2. I wanted to know a few things.
1. How is the mic quality when on a call? Is the background noise of wind, people around you audible when on a call from the mic itself? I had this problem with my Nokia BH-214 handsfree but not with my Jabra Street 2 so I am cautious when buying these.
2. Does the handsfree add its own Bass/Treble to songs being played? My Jabra Street 2 does it and it is annoying as I can't listen to songs in their pure form.
3. Do you have access to a Nokia Lumia 920? Can you please check if there is any problem with it? It is ok if you don't have access.
gxsaurav said:
Hello. I am looking to buy Sony SBH20 to use with my Lumia 920 and desktop computer. Currently I am using a Jabra Street 2. I wanted to know a few things.
1. How is the mic quality when on a call? Is the background noise of wind, people around you audible when on a call from the mic itself? I had this problem with my Nokia BH-214 handsfree but not with my Jabra Street 2 so I am cautious when buying these.
2. Does the handsfree add its own Bass/Treble to songs being played? My Jabra Street 2 does it and it is annoying as I can't listen to songs in their pure form.
3. Do you have access to a Nokia Lumia 920? Can you please check if there is any problem with it? It is ok if you don't have access.
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This article should answer all your questions: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2417963,00.asp
I have read that but wanted to know real world status.
How bad is the noise cancellation? Also, do u have a Lumia 920 which you can test with?
gxsaurav said:
I have read that but wanted to know real world status.
How bad is the noise cancellation? Also, do u have a Lumia 920 which you can test with?
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I'm afraid I can't say anything about that.
vonotny said:
I'm afraid I can't say anything about that.
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ok. Thank you for the help.
Actually,I was wondering..will using Bluetooth to stream music cause the music quality drop ? I'm not sure,as I never used any Bluetooth device before..
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[Q] Has anyone got a ANT+ heart rate monitor working with any apps?

Hi,
As the questions says, I've got a garmin heartrate monitor working with the ANT+ app but I can't get any other app to see it (mainly runtastic pro) - wondering if anyone has any success with it?
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I might trying updating to the latest firmware, currently on 14.1.g.1.518.
I've got a Garmin monitor, and a PowerCal monitor running with IPBike. I tried to get the Garmin Fit app working but there's no option to add the sensors.
Iam using My tracks and Garmin heart rate monitor.Works well.Dont forget to download and install ANT Radio Service.
n33 said:
Iam using My tracks and Garmin heart rate monitor.Works well.Dont forget to download and install ANT Radio Service.
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Anyone using ANT+ with anything but the stock ROM?
I'm using rooted stock rom(NUT .757), but ANT+ is not working.
frido_pl said:
I'm using rooted stock rom(NUT .757), but ANT+ is not working.
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Oh no that is a nightmare. Maybe I won't be upgrading then!
I'm on NUT's .136 and ANT+ is unreliable but just about works. For example when I run an ANT+ app, the bluetooth icon appears. If I close bluetooth, ANT+ stops working! Both bluetooth and wifi continually switch themselves on without any intervention from me on this ROM. Anyway, the ANT+ often mysteriously stops working during a (bike) ride and I either have to toggle bluetooth on and off (twice) or reboot to get it working again.
Good luck, I do not think many Android devs are also fitness orientated.....
Doh, you cannot turn off BT, that's how the ANT+ works on the device.
madd0g said:
Doh, you cannot turn off BT, that's how the ANT+ works on the device.
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Interesting - I was using my Samsung Galaxy Nexus with a ANT+ dongle which did not exhibit this behaviour i.e. I did not need bluetooth to be switched on to enable the ANT+. And my understanding is bluetooth and ANT+ are separate radios. Do you know different?
frumpy said:
Interesting - I was using my Samsung Galaxy Nexus with a ANT+ dongle which did not exhibit this behaviour i.e. I did not need bluetooth to be switched on to enable the ANT+. And my understanding is bluetooth and ANT+ are separate radios. Do you know different?
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That because Bluetooth and ANT+ are integrated in the same Chip so you have to enable Bluetooth to let it work. In Samsung probably they are separated. Many Manufacturing use different Chips Radio so some can have this behaviour.
I recently upgraded to the latest (4.4.2), lo and behold bluetooth is not activated when I use ANT+
frumpy said:
I recently upgraded to the latest (4.4.2), lo and behold bluetooth is not activated when I use ANT+
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That don't mean Bluetooth and ANT+ are not in the same chip.

Bluetooth GPS & Internet at the same time.

Ok Gear owners. Who of you that DOES NOT have native Bluetooth Internet Tethering, have you been able to get both a GPS receiver and Internet receiver to work at the same time?
I have a Note 3 (T-Mobile) and I can only connect Internet or Bluetooth. not both at the same time.
I have tried several Bluetooth GPS services on my phone, but none of them will let the gear connect at the same time I have PdaNet+ running.
I have PdaNet+ & ShareGPS running on my phone
I have BlueGPS & PdaNet Tablet on the gear
Running (Null_9)
Also what map program are you running on the gear? does it provide audio navigation?
almulder1092 said:
Ok Gear owners. Who of you that DOES NOT have native Bluetooth Internet Tethering, have you been able to get both a GPS receiver and Internet receiver to work at the same time?
I have a Note 3 (T-Mobile) and I can only connect Internet or Bluetooth. not both at the same time.
I have tried several Bluetooth GPS services on my phone, but none of them will let the gear connect at the same time I have PdaNet+ running.
I have PdaNet+ & ShareGPS running on my phone
I have BlueGPS & PdaNet Tablet on the gear
Running (Null_9)
Also what map program are you running on the gear? does it provide audio navigation?
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A while ago someone posted this message:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=47301731&postcount=13
He/she observed that only 3 parallel Bluetooth connectionw are possible with the Gear. Pretty weird limitation. I planned to confirm (falsify) it but forgot to do so. The limitation could explain your issue.
appelflap said:
A while ago someone posted this message:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=47301731&postcount=13
He/she observed that only 3 parallel Bluetooth connectionw are possible with the Gear. Pretty weird limitation. I planned to confirm (falsify) it but forgot to do so. The limitation could explain your issue.
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Aw I will check into that!

[Q] Bluetooth 4 /Android 4.3 update - does The Xperia Z1 now support Bluetooth Smart?

Since the Z1 supports Bluetooth 4.0, therefore following the Android 4.3 update - does The Xperia Z1 now support Bluetooth Smart?
What is Bluetooth Smart
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Yes it does.
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ron76426 said:
What is Bluetooth Smart
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http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluetooth_low_energy
OK, so I borrowed a Beets BLU Bluetooth Smart Heart rate monitor and it would see the device in the available devices list occasionally (1 out of 4) but would not pair, I also borrowed a Garmin Premium HRM (ANT+) and could not get that to connect at all.
I could of course be doing something completely wrong especially with the ANT+ device as I can find no instructions on home to pair the device
instructions or help with either?
tallguy_uk_98 said:
OK, so I borrowed a Beets BLU Bluetooth Smart Heart rate monitor and it would see the device in the available devices list occasionally (1 out of 4) but would not pair, I also borrowed a Garmin Premium HRM (ANT+) and could not get that to connect at all.
I could of course be doing something completely wrong especially with the ANT+ device as I can find no instructions on home to pair the device
instructions or help with either?
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You might just have be having the typical 290 issues with Bluetooth where devices can't pair. Maybe someone else will chime in with more feedback, but I don't have any BLE devices to test.
Ok So I managed to get the ANT+ device to work by installing ANT Radio Service & ANT+ Plugins from the play store following guidance from this website
http://www.thisisant.com/consumer/ant-101/ant-in-phones/
Which was really helpful, especially as the Z1 is slated as being ANT+ native supporting but still needs additional software drivers installed, but there is nothing on Sony's documentation to drive you to this conclusion.
As for the Bluetooth 4.0/Bluetooth Smart device still no joy - Anybody any further ideas or is it just a case of waiting for a bug fix?
Install BLE Heart Rate Monitor from store. In the settings pair with your HRM. Don't try and pair through phone bluetooth settings. Bluetooth smart isn't designed to be paired like this apparently.
SeanyC said:
Install BLE Heart Rate Monitor from store. In the settings pair with your HRM. Don't try and pair through phone bluetooth settings. Bluetooth smart isn't designed to be paired like this apparently.
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Thanks for the info - partially works, connects but drops the connection routinely even after refreshing the Bluetooth system , as suggested by the app - probably needs a bug fix
This happens sometimes unfortunately. I had no problems on my Nexus 4.
I would like to understand whether it's possible to activate bluetooth 4 and bluetooth "classic" individually. The background: I want to use a bluetooth 4 tag in combination with tasker to automate certain things once the tag is within reach. I got a Texas Instruments SensorTag which is recognized by the Z1 and can be accessed via the TI software. Tasker is currently being improved to play with BT4 devices. The issue is that there is just a single bluetooth switch within Android, but of course I want to avoid the power hungry classic bluetooth and use bluetooth instead.
Any ideas if there is a solution? Maybe via an Xposed module?
Cheers,
Torsten
sumerland said:
I would like to understand whether it's possible to activate bluetooth 4 and bluetooth "classic" individually. The background: I want to use a bluetooth 4 tag in combination with tasker to automate certain things once the tag is within reach. I got a Texas Instruments SensorTag which is recognized by the Z1 and can be accessed via the TI software. Tasker is currently being improved to play with BT4 devices. The issue is that there is just a single bluetooth switch within Android, but of course I want to avoid the power hungry classic bluetooth and use bluetooth instead.
Any ideas if there is a solution? Maybe via an Xposed module?
Cheers,
Torsten
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It is already BT 4.0 as long as device you use has it too, no further activation needed. If you try to use it with device that has older version like BT 2.1 functionality of BT 4.0 will be downscaled to work with older version.
zimbashka said:
It is already BT 4.0 as long as device you use has it too, no further activation needed. If you try to use it with device that has older version like BT 2.1 functionality of BT 4.0 will be downscaled to work with older version.
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Many thanks! This sounds good! To be fully sure: once a BT2.1 device disconnects, BT falls "back" to 4.0? The longer I think about it I wonder whether it really makes a difference if a phone waiting for a connection is using BT2.1 or BT4.0. Do the 4.0 improvements have an effect on the power consumption before the connection is established?
sumerland said:
Many thanks! This sounds good! To be fully sure: once a BT2.1 device disconnects, BT falls "back" to 4.0? The longer I think about it I wonder whether it really makes a difference if a phone waiting for a connection is using BT2.1 or BT4.0. Do the 4.0 improvements have an effect on the power consumption before the connection is established?
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It is more like imposed limits by older version go away. Power consumption in BT 4.0 is more like: little power used to connect, pair and then it uses more power when large amount of information needs to be transferred (like opening higher bandwidth based on Wi-Fi that uses more power for shorter period of time). While discovering device awaits connection it consumes very little of battery on either 2.1 or 4.0. from what I can see versions of BT evolve in added functionality that is based mainly on transfer rate as well as better power management.
Here more info:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluetooth

Bluetooth our Wi-Fi for battery savings

I am trying to improve my battery life. Right now it is pretty bad. Should I be using Bluetooth or Wi-Fi to connect to my phone? I was wondering if one used more watch battery than the other.
re: bluetooth or wifi
ElAguila said:
I am trying to improve my battery life. Right now it is pretty bad. Should I be using Bluetooth or Wi-Fi to connect to my phone? I was wondering if one used more watch battery than the other.
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Use Bluetooth and disable wifi for better battery life.
Good luck,
Have a great day!

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