Unlocking bootloader allowed, why not root? - Xperia Z1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

If sony is completely fine with us unlocking hte bootloader, as shown here: http://unlockbootloader.sonymobile.com/unlocking-boot-loader
Why did they make it so difficult to root the device?

Supish said:
If sony is completely fine with us unlocking hte bootloader, as shown here: http://unlockbootloader.sonymobile.com/unlocking-boot-loader
Why did they make it so difficult to root the device?
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If you can unlock the bootloader it is a very easy 2 second job to root.

But id have to downgrade my firmware. And my data would be erased. Seems so needless
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Supish said:
But id have to downgrade my firmware. And my data would be erased. Seems so needless
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That's only to back up TA upgrading with root from 4.2.2 is to 4.3 or 4.4 is not supported.
Upgrade to stock then unlock
Also I think losing all data is a sacrifice worth it besidesvyou can back up data Sony provides you with the tools or just copy SD card to desktop and restore when done.
OOORRRRRRRR.....
You can get pre-rooted firmware here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2711982
Backup TA and unlock(if you want but I'm getting the sense that you just want root)
The last option is the preferred one no downgrade pain nonsense.
And finally to answer your Question: Sony is gonna Sony they say they don't mind you unlocking boot loader but the remove the good stuff like BIONZ. Now just imagine with root in which they never claimed to not mind about.
yup owns Z1 and stuff.

RealiableCandy4 said:
That's only to back up TA upgrading with root from 4.2.2 is to 4.3 or 4.4 is not supported.
Upgrade to stock then unlock
Also I think losing all data is a sacrifice worth it besidesvyou can back up data Sony provides you with the tools or just copy SD card to desktop and restore when done.
OOORRRRRRRR.....
You can get pre-rooted firmware here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2711982
Backup TA and unlock(if you want but I'm getting the sense that you just want root)
The last option is the preferred one no downgrade pain nonsense.
And finally to answer your Question: Sony is gonna Sony they say they don't mind you unlocking boot loader but the remove the good stuff like BIONZ. Now just imagine with root in which they never claimed to not mind about.
yup owns Z1 and stuff.
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Ive checked my phone on *#*#SERVICE#*#* and it says bootloader unlock allowed: no. What do you recommend I do?

Supish said:
Ive checked my phone on *#*#SERVICE#*#* and it says bootloader unlock allowed: no. What do you recommend I do?
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As for unlocking bootloader there's no hope. But you can still get root by flashing pre-rooted firmware in the link I provided in previous post. Just follow the locked bootloader instructions.
yup owns Z1 and stuff. Also if I've helped you don't forget to hit THANKS - actions speak louder that words.

I did not thought that the first question of the OP was to root the phone ....

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Problem with recovery z1 Help please.

Ok so i've made a mistake, fortunately I can still use my phone but i'm in unfamiliar territory.
What I did was download the 4.3 Rom by RomAur, installed the rom and the recovery as per the instructions within the thread, then rebooted to flashmode and entered flashtool so I could flash the kernel and baseband from 290, but made the mistake of excluding kernel and baseband and flashing the only other option which was BOOTBUNDLE, and since then my recovery has been inaccessible.
I've reflashed the dual recovery but it won't allow me to access it via the power on up or down method or the adb reboot recovery method.
I really can't continue with this phone or flash anything without a working recovery, does anyone have any idea how to get my recovery back please??
Any help would be appreciated.
I'm also wanting to unlock the bootloader but without a working recovery i'm a little hesitant to begin.
Phone: Sony Z1 C6903
Rom: RomAur v4.0
Bootloader status: Locked
Flash the kernel and baseband from 290 in flashtool then.
gregbradley said:
Flash the kernel and baseband from 290 in flashtool then.
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Well i've gone and downgraded but used an unbranded ftf, which has now taken over my IMEI, which now reads 0000000000000000.
In a bad way here and stuck in work with limited internet, i'm now back on a 534 rom and feel like smashing this thing up.
Going home soon so will sit down and go through it all again from scratch, wish i'd just left it on my old monx rom now.
Bad times.
Any other ideas Greg ? Or anyone else?
just upgrade back, I believe you get your IMEI back that way..
The problem you are having is that you need unlocked boot to get a properly working recovery and root on 4.3
gregbradley said:
just upgrade back, I believe you get your IMEI back that way..
The problem you are having is that you need unlocked boot to get a properly working recovery and root on 4.3
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Ah i see, well i'm downloading an ftf which is t-mobile 534, it's the closest thing i could get to EE, as at the moment i have no recovery and no root.
So should i do this in this order.
get this tmobile 534 and re root and get recovery, i imagine at this point my IMEI will still be missing (hopefully not) then what would you do?
Update to 4.3 by using one of those roms? and then unlock the bootloader? As thats where I ended up losing recovery, i'm thinking thats maybe down to me flashing boot bundle instead of kernel and baseband through flash tool.
Also doesn't unlocking the bootloader require system rw access?
And thanks by the way Greg, i appreciate your help.
Same thing happened to me. So I flashed Nordic 4.3 kept my data booted then flashed the kernel that comes with twrp. So far everything is great
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1) Update to 4.3 using a FTF of your choice.
2) Unlock bootloader (This will wipe system and internal memory so have a backup of internal sdcard)
3) Flash any of the three kernels from the top of this post, I am using the third one with philz recovery.
4) enter recovery and flash the SuperSU.zip found in that same post.
Done.
You do not need root to unlock bootloader. The kernels have the recovery incorporated into them
pikeylfc said:
Same thing happened to me. So I flashed Nordic 4.3 kept my data booted then flashed the kernel that comes with twrp. So far everything is great
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How do you flash a rom without a recovery though? sideload? Not sure, but nevermind, i ended up doing what i said i was going to do and now i'm back online and have re rooted but still on 4.2, will probably stay on 4.2 until 4.3 is 100%
Not being able to use things was too much of a pain in the arse.
Cheers by the way m8
gregbradley said:
1) Update to 4.3 using a FTF of your choice.
2) Unlock bootloader (This will wipe system and internal memory so have a backup of internal sdcard)
3) Flash any of the three kernels from the top of this post, I am using the third one with philz recovery.
4) enter recovery and flash the SuperSU.zip found in that same post.
Done.
You do not need root to unlock bootloader. The kernels have the recovery incorporated into them
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Ahh that sounds simple enough, cheers m8, well i'll maybe give that a whirl as i'm at home and obviously my internal has been wiped anyway, got a back up in work so i'm running on minimum until i go back there.
While i'm in this state i may as well give it a go.
Cheers Greg, will let you know here if it worked out.
gregbradley said:
1) Update to 4.3 using a FTF of your choice.
2) Unlock bootloader (This will wipe system and internal memory so have a backup of internal sdcard)
3) Flash any of the three kernels from the top of this post, I am using the third one with philz recovery.
4) enter recovery and flash the SuperSU.zip found in that same post.
Done.
You do not need root to unlock bootloader. The kernels have the recovery incorporated into them
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Well i've not attempted the unlock because after following the instructions it says in my phone that my bootloader cannot be unlocked.
I downloaded a vodafone UK ftf if that makes any difference, i got my phone from EE.
I noticed that you said to someone that they couldn't unlock the bootloader if it said that? Is there no way around it?
dladz said:
I noticed that you said to someone that they couldn't unlock the bootloader if it said that? Is there no way around it?
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Bootloader Unlocking Allowed: NO
You can't unlock bootloader. Is impossible and no confirmation if even will be in some "unofficial" way.
eclyptos said:
Bootloader Unlocking Allowed: NO
You can't unlock bootloader. Is impossible and no confirmation if even will be in some "unofficial" way.
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Yea i've just learnt that from Greg, that is ridiculous, I've never had a phone that this has happened to.
First and last Sony i ever buy, period.
Cheers.
dladz said:
Yea i've just learnt that from Greg, that is ridiculous, I've never had a phone that this has happened to.
First and last Sony i ever buy, period.
Cheers.
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So if you know why you opening a new thread? We are here to learn, what the difference if I said what he said 100 times, is because I do not have 1000thanx. Still the source good and confirmed.
dladz said:
Yea i've just learnt that from Greg, that is ridiculous, I've never had a phone that this has happened to.
First and last Sony i ever buy, period.
Cheers.
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Get your Sony phones from Vodafone, all 3 of my Xperia T's and my Z1 have been able to be unlocked.
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eclyptos said:
So if you know why you opening a new thread? We are here to learn, what the difference if I said what he said 100 times, is because I do not have 1000thanx. Still the source good and confirmed.
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Oh i'm sorry, i'm just coming to terms with myself being shafted by yet another company, i'm sorry i didn't click the damn thanks button, there i clicked it is that ok ?
I learnt about the answer to my thread after i'd heard from Greg, I don't plant one seed i plant several, I find out what i need to know quickly because my life doesn't give me time very often.
Apologies if i seem harsh, i'm not in a very good mood at the moment.
gregbradley said:
Get your Sony phones from Vodafone, all 3 of my Xperia T's and my Z1 have been able to be unlocked.
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So what youre saying is that if the phones unlocked then the bootloader unlock will work?
I seriously can't have an android phone as restricted as this.
dladz said:
Apologies if i seem harsh, i'm not in a very good mood at the moment.
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I understand.
dladz said:
I seriously can't have an android phone as restricted as this.
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Agree with you.
dladz said:
So what youre saying is that if the phones unlocked then the bootloader unlock will work?.
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No, just that Vodafone do not restrict the boot loader
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gregbradley said:
No, just that Vodafone do not restrict the boot loader
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Is there any solid data on how/why some Z1s cannot be bootloader unlocked? I have a C6906 from Overseas Electronics which I think was sourced from Canda and cannot be BL unlocked, though it's sim unlocked and otherwise works fine on AT&T LTE.
I found a thread/post here mentioning that Sony may be able to "fix" these devices (and possibly for free, at that). I'm going to run down that angle, but if there's any technical data on what could be preventing the BL unlock I'd be very interested in doing some legwork on my own.
xasbo said:
Is there any solid data on how/why some Z1s cannot be bootloader unlocked? I have a C6906 from Overseas Electronics which I think was sourced from Canda and cannot be BL unlocked, though it's sim unlocked and otherwise works fine on AT&T LTE.
I found a thread/post here mentioning that Sony may be able to "fix" these devices (and possibly for free, at that). I'm going to run down that angle, but if there's any technical data on what could be preventing the BL unlock I'd be very interested in doing some legwork on my own.
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Not too sure mate, think its coded not to be unlockable, in which case someone would have to do quite a bit of digging to undo whatever was done. And seeing as that the vast majority of people knew to buy from a source that doesn't have the NO to unlocking the BL I would say that its not going to happen any time soon. I usually do a bit of digging before I buy a phone, rushed into this one and I'm paying for it now.
I'll check out that link you put up, maybe there's hope yet.
Edit: as for the link you put up, that's just for the sim lock.
If you want an unlockable phone then you'll either have to claim from a 3rd party insurer an hope that they give you an unlocked phone or contact Sony for an RMA and hope that they give you one. Otherwise I can't see it.
But in all fairness your missing custom kernels and aosp type ROMs. Most everything else will work fine, including all (well most) the ROMs that are in the android development section, so that's not a total loss by any means.
When roots fixed completely for 4.3, well see more.
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Rooting is it really worth it?

Hi I am new to super smart phones like the z1, I'm the type of person to want to hack things and make them beret but I'm also the type of person everything goes wrong for. I want to know if it really worth rooting my phone what I would gane and if it worth the risk,? Thanks
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Some of the Benefits of Rooting:
1. Easily backup your apps + data to your Ext sd card (no PC required)
2. Remove bloatware (pre-installed carrier apps that you cant remove without root)
3. Full customization of your xperia z1. Examples: change your navigation bar layout, add 3 dot menu bar, customize your status bar, assign different actions to your hardware buttons, increase/decrease height of your navigation bar etc
4.Flash custom ROMs and kernels (if your bootloader unlocked)
5.Overclokking.
6.Improve Battery life with Frequencies and Governors.
7.Full access to your System phone.
8.Modified build.prop to make uncompatible, compatible apps.
9...and more...
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Hi I am new to super smart phones like the z1, I'm the type of person to want to hack things and make them beret but I'm also the type of person everything goes wrong for. I want to know if it really worth rooting my phone what I would gane and if it worth the risk,? Thanks
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anyone who is asking this question shouldn't mind if he needs root - you need root ^^
there should be no problems if you read the instructions and immediatly ask questions when there are problems
ruinkhan said:
Some of the Benefits of Rooting:
1. Easily backup your apps + data to your Ext sd card (no PC required)
2. Remove bloatware (pre-installed carrier apps that you cant remove without root)
3. Full customization of your xperia z1. Examples: change your navigation bar layout, add 3 dot menu bar, customize your status bar, assign different actions to your hardware buttons, increase/decrease height of your navigation bar etc
4.Flash custom ROMs and kernels (if your bootloader unlocked)
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So if I root my phone will all the stuff I have on there already stays there or does it wipe it. What happens when new updates come out? My warrenty stops to doesn't it? I would have to flash a stock rom if i have any problems? so the phones functions all work the same Ie connecting a ps3 controler? Just worry I'm going to screw it up or loose things to gain things
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So if I root my phone will all the stuff I have on there already stays there or does it wipe it. What happens when new updates come out? My warrenty stops to doesn't it? I would have to flash a stock rom if i have any problems? so the phones functions all work the same Ie connecting a ps3 controler? Just worry I'm going to screw it up or loose things to gain things
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Unlocking bootloader might do that, but not root.
So rooting my phone will give me more control and customisation. Still keeping installed apps and game progress? Un locking bootloader will change everything and loose everything?
RushNReady said:
So rooting my phone will give me more control and customisation. Still keeping installed apps and game progress? Un locking bootloader will change everything and loose everything?
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Exactly.
First thing I do when I get a new phone. Root the thing. Grab titanium, get CRT an I'm happy again. . Yea its worth it m8. 100%
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someone could confirm whether the BIONZ processing is lost??
thank you
yanbee said:
someone could confirm whether the BIONZ processing is lost??
thank you
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You don't loose anything when you root the phone.
When you unlock the bootloader than yes you will loose a few features such as Bionz and also the Xperia Throw.
Here is a video that should clarify a few things for you:
Just2Cause said:
Exactly.
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Were is the thanks button. What's the best way to root then
Sorry I mean unlocking bootloader
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RushNReady said:
Were is the thanks button. What's the best way to root then
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First question is what version of firmware you are on. To get a fully functional root on 4.3 firmware (with write to system ability) you need to unlock the bootloader first.
You can have a partial root on 4.3 that will still allow use of Titanium Backup or Xposed Framework. To get root you need to use Flashtool to downgrade to old 534 firmware. Than root with vroot (check out my channel for video). Than install dual recovery. Once you have root and recovery flash a prerooted rom. I would highly advise using monxdified rom.
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shem2409 said:
First question is what version of firmware you are on. To get a fully functional root on 4.3 firmware (with write to system ability) you need to unlock the bootloader first.
You can have a partial root on 4.3 that will still allow use of Titanium Backup or Xposed Framework. To get root you need to use Flashtool to downgrade to old 534 firmware. Than root with vroot (check out my channel for video). Than install dual recovery. Once you have root and recovery flash a prerooted rom. I would highly advise using monxdified rom.
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Also there are 100 of threads that give you information on how to get root. Please read before asking the same information.
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shem2409 said:
First question is what version of firmware you are on. To get a fully functional root on 4.3 firmware (with write to system ability) you need to unlock the bootloader first.
You can have a partial root on 4.3 that will still allow use of Titanium Backup or Xposed Framework. To get root you need to use Flashtool to downgrade to old 534 firmware. Than root with vroot (check out my channel for video). Than install dual recovery. Once you have root and recovery flash a prerooted rom. I would highly advise using monxdified rom.
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Also there are 100 of threads that give you information on how to get root. Please read before asking the same information.
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i have 4.2.2 is that what you mean by firmware ? i wanted to ask is it worth it whats the point in having a website where you can post question you want answered to then only be told not to ask any just read other peoples dont make sense
RushNReady said:
i have 4.2.2 is that what you mean by firmware ? i wanted to ask is it worth it whats the point in having a website where you can post question you want answered to then only be told not to ask any just read other peoples dont make sense
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When you go to Settings>About Phone under Build Number you will get the firmware that you are on. To root the phone you need to downgrade to .534 firmware. This place is to ask questions, but there is a search function for a reason. When you ask the same question for 100th time you just flood the forum. Your question on why you should root has been answered. If you want to find out how to do it read on the respective threads.
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shem2409 said:
First question is what version of firmware you are on. To get a fully functional root on 4.3 firmware (with write to system ability) you need to unlock the bootloader first.
You can have a partial root on 4.3 that will still allow use of Titanium Backup or Xposed Framework. To get root you need to use Flashtool to downgrade to old 534 firmware. Than root with vroot (check out my channel for video). Than install dual recovery. Once you have root and recovery flash a prerooted rom. I would highly advise using monxdified rom.
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I did a backup of TA partition, then I updated to 4.3 (290) and unlocked bootloader in order to flash TWRP and flash SuperSu. All was nice, except for x-reality didn`t work (which i dont care so much) but I didn't know if BIONZ camera image processor stop working too.
This is my only concern. I want to know if its possible to have unlocked bootloader and root without loosing BIONZ processor. I tried restoring TA partition while unlocked/rooted, but it became in a soft-brick which I only could solve flashing a ftf.
Thank you very much!
yanbee said:
I did a backup of TA partition, then I updated to 4.3 (290) and unlocked bootloader in order to flash TWRP and flash SuperSu. All was nice, except for x-reality didn`t work (which i dont care so much) but I didn't know if BIONZ camera image processor stop working too.
This is my only concern. I want to know if its possible to have unlocked bootloader and root without loosing BIONZ processor. I tried restoring TA partition while unlocked/rooted, but it became in a soft-brick which I only could solve flashing a ftf.
Thank you very much!
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When you unlock the bootloader you loose the DRM keys.Technologies such as X-reality Engine or Bionz will not work with bootloader unlocked.
When you restore your TA do it on the same firmware that you did the backup on. There have been issues reported when trying to restore backup from 4.2.2. on 4.3
shem2409 said:
When you unlock the bootloader you loose the DRM keys.Technologies such as X-reality Engine or Bionz will not work with bootloader unlocked.
When you restore your TA do it on the same firmware that you did the backup on. There have been issues reported when trying to restore backup from 4.2.2. on 4.3
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But it's possible to have a working camera without bionz working? (such it happens in 4.3 after unlocking bootloader).
I can only do TA backup in 4.2.2 (534 or 257) because are the only rooteable versions. And I only can unlock bootloader in 4.3 because it's the only version which doesn't lose camera functionality. How it's supposed to be root and restore TA in 4.3?
Thank you.
yanbee said:
But it's possible to have a working camera without bionz working? (such it happens in 4.3 after unlocking bootloader).
I can only do TA backup in 4.2.2 (534 or 257) because are the only rooteable versions. And I only can unlock bootloader in 4.3 because it's the only version which doesn't lose camera functionality. How it's supposed to be root and restore TA in 4.3?
Thank you.
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The camera works on 4.3 when bootloader is unlocked. You are going to loose bionz and x-reality. You cannot relock the bootloader on 4.3 if you want to have a functioning root. It's either one or the other. When you restore TA you will relock the bootloader.
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[Q] How to backup TA, MAC and IMEI with unlocked BL?

Greetings to everyone
I have already unlocked BL & rooted my 4.3 xperia Z1 with CWM recovery installed... the camera and everything works fine
So, how to backup TA, MAC and IMEI with unlocked BL? I want to avoid any furthur losing possibility of them
Sorry If this a repeated question but I have searched a lot before posting this
thank you
You can't Backup your TA if you Unlocked your Bootloader. You lost your DRM keys permanently. You will not be able to re-lock you bootloader and you are not covered by your warranty. Sorry but you should read carefully before do anything.
Yeah, too late, you should have done this before the unlock....
eclyptos said:
You can't Backup your TA if you Unlocked your Bootloader. You lost your DRM keys permanently. You will not be able to re-lock you bootloader and you are not covered by your warranty. Sorry but you should read carefully before do anything.
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oh.. I hope everything will still fine .. but I saw option in flashtool to relock BL.. it won't relock my phone ?? ... and what is the safe way to update my device firmware when 4.4 kitkat arrives to xperia z1 ??? and what are the risks now ?? what I must avoid and never do ?? any advices for me ???... sure it's better to stay one 4.3 without root rather than breaking my phone
thank you
ghostman2 said:
Yeah, too late, you should have done this before the unlock....
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yeah I realize that .. I was on HTC before and I didn't know that the unlock BL is like that in SONY .. it's all my fault
Hani88 said:
oh.. I hope everything will still fine
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Should be all fine but the safest way was backup TA first because if one day happen something on your phone you can't go via warranty.
Hani88 said:
.. but I saw option in flashtool to relock BL.. it won't relock my phone ??
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You still losing your DRM keys so even if he does it's compromise, no x-reality, bionz engine and bravia.
Hani88 said:
... and what is the safe way to update my device firmware when 4.4 kitkat arrives to xperia z1 ???
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This is not a problem, the FTFs will be upload here on XDA like for .290 and Custom Roms as well.
Hani88 said:
and what are the risks now ??
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This is what we said already, the risk is if you brick the phone and the warranty will not cover that.
Hani88 said:
what I must avoid and never do ?? any advices for me ???... sure it's better to stay one 4.3 without root rather than breaking my phone
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You don't have to avoid anything just read carefully everything when you try to do something. My advice is now to wait for the confirmed and safe way to root or update. In your position you already lost the safest way so I will root, update or flash custom roms to enjoy the phone but remember, it's your own risk and responsability.
Ive done the same, came from HTC.....so I will still have all tge features unless I flash say cm11 and try to go back to a Sony based rom?
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[Q] Unlock bootloader wipe TA partition ?

Hello.
Im abit new to the forum but here goes.
Ive read tons of posts everywhere and there aint any exact answers anywhere to find.
In the past ive never known about the TA and DRM so happy as i am i just unlocked the bootloader on all the phones and still happy. The latest phone is the Xperia Z1. It has been abit buggy to say the least but im hoping software updates will cure this.
Anyway, i rooted my phone and unlocked the bootloader on the .681 firmware and now i am on .757 firmware. Using Doomlords kernel. I thought id check if i could backup my TA partition after unlocking the bootloader. And from what ive read its suppose to be wiped when you unlock the bootloader.
Well it was no problem backing up the TA partion. All files were there and it came out with no errors. So the question, how is this possible ?
/Jonas740
No, it's been wiped, if you restore that TA you will not relock your phone and you will not get the drm keys back, it's possible because unlocking "wipe "your original ta partition and replaced it, so you have backed up a post unlocking partition, not a pre unlocking partition
Also, please post questions in the correct form
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Aha, just wanted to sort things since ppl were saying that it was completely wiped when unlocking bootloader. And when I checked it wasn't.
Although, after numerous tests with the phone I can't understand what use the DRM keys is. Everything works just like it should without them.
Another question though. If I relock my phone with flashtool. What is the way to unlock it after? The official way won't work again I guess?
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Jonas740 said:
Aha, just wanted to sort things since ppl were saying that it was completely wiped when unlocking bootloader. And when I checked it wasn't.
Although, after numerous tests with the phone I can't understand what use the DRM keys is. Everything works just like it should without them.
Another question though. If I relock my phone with flashtool. What is the way to unlock it after? The official way won't work again I guess?
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No it doesn't, you will need to ensure you use flashtool to re unlock. However, you will also need to make sure you have the correct folder tree
I think maybe the newest version of flashtool does this, but there are a couple of posts in DooMLoRDs thread tutorial thread in the development section about it.
The main difference I notice with an unlocked bootloader is the inability to use PCComapnion to update, but that's not a big issue for as I can create the FTF and create a flashable .zip from it....
Ye updating with Sony software won't work nor the over the air update. But that's about it as I've seen.
But I remember on my Sony Xperia V that when I relocked it, then I could use Sony update again and I did so wiping everything before I sent that one to the repair shop. They repaired it and I got it back. All under warranty
The latest update .757 is really buggy, hope they fix it. Phone restarts sometimes when using the camera.
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because
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Double thread in the same section? How this is possible?
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because i posted it wrong and couldtn delete it and made the same post in the correct forum and told moderator to delete the wrongly posted one. The moderator moved the thread instead so hence double posting and he kinda locked the wrong thread
No, he locked the one you made second. The first one you made always has priority

[Q] TA and DRM keys ? Am I ready to Root ?

Quick questions and no they haven't been answered directly the way I am asking them :
1) If I wish to later do warranty repair and I currently have a locked boot-loader is backing up the TA going to give me a 1:1 undetectable root and later unroot if I choose. (i mean all my gracenote, bravia, and other DRM's be returnable to stock condition)? (if so which method is the BEST.. ? seen a couple now)
2) My stock firmware doesn't seem to be on the FTF list is this possible I have a : c6906 C6906 14.3.A.0.757 Generic CA R10 ??? This one is on the list I don't think so ? Perhaps I am reading the string from the wrong spot.. ! In which case anyone know what to do to make a backup ?
3)Everyone hates this question but I have to ask does anyone here know of a way to unlock a locked bootloader :YES flagged device; I feel like a dink asking but after sifting through hundreds of posts there seems to be contradiction as in some people eventually figure it out and/or have unlocked z1's which I have read elsewhere that every single z1 comes from factory with bootloader locked yes?
Answer one of these questions for me make my day and you will have my many thanks to come
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Quick questions and no they haven't been answered directly the way I am asking them :
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1) Why Unlock Bootloader for Root if you can get Root on Locked Bootloader? First get Root on Locked Bootloader then Backup TA and do whatever you want. Best way is with the application to Backup TA, with that one you can Unlock and Relock, as you already had read 100 post then you know which method you have use to backup TA, right? (no? then search again) BTW, Yes, after Relock bootloader with the Backup of your TA your phone will be stock like new.
2) Perhaps you should understand that it do not matter, download any Generic CA or International CA for your specific model C6906. Done.
3)What that even supposed to mean? Type *#*#7378423#*#* and go to Configuration, if there is Bootloader Unlock Allowed: Yes, then you can unlock it, if there is NO, then is no way to Unlock it. To unlock it there is only ONE WAY, google it.
futiless said:
Quick questions and no they haven't been answered directly the way I am asking them :
1) If I wish to later do warranty repair and I currently have a locked boot-loader is backing up the TA going to give me a 1:1 undetectable root and later unroot if I choose. (i mean all my gracenote, bravia, and other DRM's be returnable to stock condition)? (if so which method is the BEST.. ? seen a couple now)
2) My stock firmware doesn't seem to be on the FTF list is this possible I have a : c6906 C6906 14.3.A.0.757 Generic CA R10 ??? This one is on the list I don't think so ? Perhaps I am reading the string from the wrong spot.. ! In which case anyone know what to do to make a backup ?
3)Everyone hates this question but I have to ask does anyone here know of a way to unlock a locked bootloader :YES flagged device; I feel like a dink asking but after sifting through hundreds of posts there seems to be contradiction as in some people eventually figure it out and/or have unlocked z1's which I have read elsewhere that every single z1 comes from factory with bootloader locked yes?
Answer one of these questions for me make my day and you will have my many thanks to come
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1) I think you may be confusing root and unlocking the bootloader. TA partition backups are for re-locking the bootloader, not removing root. In fact you must be rooted in order to make or restore a TA backup. Generally only an unlocked bootloader voids warranty, not root. Though if you're worried about it, you can always flash a stock FTF and you will be back to stock without root.
For TA backup there's a Windows app that will do it, just Google it. Works great
2) Your firmware is there. Google "c6906 14.3.a.0.757" and it's the first link
3) As @eclyptos said, if your service menu says unlock is allowed, then you can. If it says unlock is not allowed then you can't and I'd say there's a 99% chance you will never be able to.
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almost fully clear on this but still curious how my device is R10 which I don't see on the 6906 list.. I see r4 and so on.
I have read on a website that unlike z1s and other z devices every single z1 comes from factory locked. If so then how come some people have proclaimed the unlock success? Maybe that was just misinformation?
Thanks again will properly thank everyone later at home currently using the app
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almost fully clear on this but still curious how my device is R10 which I don't see on the 6906 list.. I see r4 and so on.
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It's just a customization which you will never even to notice.
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I have read on a website that unlike z1s and other z devices every single z1 comes from factory locked. If so then how come some people have proclaimed the unlock success? Maybe that was just misinformation?
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Yes, it's your misinformation. All of them have Bootloader Locked from day 1, Z1S is Locked Permanently and Unlockable, Z1 is Locked but can be Unlocked from the Official Sony Web Page, just google it.
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Thanks again will properly thank everyone later at home currently using the app
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Yes, thanx a lot.

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