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Looking at trading my PS Vita due to non-use for an HP Touchpad with dual boot -32 GB. Is there anything I can't do with the tablet- like netflix, skype, or any android apps that don't work? Sorry for such a noob question!
Overall- is it a good tablet?
Just got mine from Craigslist 2 weeks ago and its an amazing tablet with cm9..couldn't be happier with it
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The camera doesn't work in android. I don't know if Skype is available for webos. If you look in themes and app thread there are workarounds for a lot of apps.
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The camera doesn't work in android. I don't know if Skype is available for webos. If you look in themes and app thread there are workarounds for a lot of apps.
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Skype works perfectly in Webos. Plus there is a good app for changing boot order and time delay amongst many other things give it a try . I mainly use nightly but do go back to Webos for Skype and a couple off other apps.
Have fun :good:
I haven't been able to get Osmos to work, though others have. Other than that and the above-mentioned camera, it's a great tablet. (Admittedly, it would be easier to just buy a tablet built for Android like the $200 Nexus, but since you seem to have a situation where it's a one-for-one trade, it's still a great tablet.)
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I haven't been able to get Osmos to work, though others have. Other than that and the above-mentioned camera, it's a great tablet. (Admittedly, it would be easier to just buy a tablet built for Android like the $200 Nexus, but since you seem to have a situation where it's a one-for-one trade, it's still a great tablet.)
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Osmos HD is the ticket there...
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Osmos HD is the ticket there...
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I got mine from the humble indie bundle, and it offers a tablet version, which I assume is the HD version. That doesn't work either...just a black screen.
bananagranola said:
I got mine from the humble indie bundle, and it offers a tablet version, which I assume is the HD version. That doesn't work either...just a black screen.
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Well, I guess I can understand. I had the same issue with Splashtop HD... same black screen. That was on AOKP, when I flashed O.a.T.'s Light and Tasty it started working.
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Well, I guess I can understand. I had the same issue with Splashtop HD... same black screen. That was on AOKP, when I flashed O.a.T.'s Light and Tasty it started working.
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I just tried flashing from Oat's Light and Tasty to CM9, and suddenly Osmos works...that was strange. Maybe Oat's was a bad flash somehow. But thanks for the hint about swapping ROMs.
osmos hd from the amazon appstore works perfectly for me and i still use splashtop 1 on cm9 regularly.....
maybe a bad flash as others have noted
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Man I was in the exact same situation, but I got a 16gb and $70. I haven't looked back its a great tablet.
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It seems that Kindle Fire HD is the best Android tablet at this moment. I was hoping purchase a kindle fire HD, while travelling to US. Now, I am having second thoughts. I am from India and Amazon marketplace for Android is not available here. So, the only hope for me to completely utilize the Kindle Fire HD is to flash it with a custom/vanilla ROM.
However, based on the comments here and in the developers section, it seems Kindle fire HD is completely locked down and I have not seen any custom ROM yet. Will custom ROMs show up any time soon? What is your opinion on this purchase?
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It seems that Kindle Fire HD is the best Android tablet at this moment. I was hoping purchase a kindle fire HD, while travelling to US. Now, I am having second thoughts. I am from India and Amazon marketplace for Android is not available here. So, the only hope for me to completely utilize the Kindle Fire HD is to flash it with a custom/vanilla ROM.
However, based on the comments here and in the developers section, it seems Kindle fire HD is completely locked down and I have not seen any custom ROM yet. Will custom ROMs show up any time soon? What is your opinion on this purchase?
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There are always alternative app markets out there (I dont know any off my head at the moment.) The Kindle fire speakers, Display in my opinion make the FIre better then the Nexus. But the nexus is more advanced in rom stages already. So if you don't wanna wait, go with the lesser of devices, and don't buy something hoping it gets roms really fast. It could still be awhile. But I perfer the KFHD if your willing to wait it out, and just have fun with it as it is.
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There are always alternative app markets out there (I dont know any off my head at the moment.) The Kindle fire speakers, Display in my opinion make the FIre better then the Nexus. But the nexus is more advanced in rom stages already. So if you don't wanna wait, go with the lesser of devices, and don't buy something hoping it gets roms really fast. It could still be awhile. But I perfer the KFHD if your willing to wait it out, and just have fun with it as it is.
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I agree, you don't want to buy something hoping for developer support that doesn't exist. With no Amazon Video Prime available in India the Nexus is a better fit.
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I agree, you don't want to buy something hoping for developer support that doesn't exist. With no Amazon Video Prime available in India the Nexus is a better fit.
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Completely agree. Having the Google Play store on your device isn't that difficult, but you will learn that many of the apps refuse to install so you have to side load most of them. If you can't access any of the Amazon content, there is little value in the Kindle over the Nexus.
I would not purchase the KFHD in dreams of getting a custom rom. I pre-ordered mine knowing what I was getting into but I hated it, even after rooting and running gapps, to an extent. The KFHD is nothing but a gimped version of android and won't be where I like it until the bootloader is unlocked and custom roms made, similar to what you are wishing.
The KFHD traffic on android forums are SLOW. I returned my KFHD for a Nexus 7 and I loved it the second I took it out of the box. The only reason I'd keep the KFHD is if I had amazon prime and loved their ecosystem, except I don't.
I do have to say, I loved the hardware, it was great. Screen is colorful, vibrant and the sound was fantastic but that was it. The software killed the device for me. I have not seen any updates on bootloader status, so it could either be tomorrow, six months, a year or never. I wouldn't bank on it. I wasn't happy and wanted a fully functional device which I got in the Nexus.
I have had the KFHD for a couple days. I have to say I like my OG Fire better. I also have a Nexus 7. I am probably returning the KFHD. It is too locked up for me. IT also ticked me off when I pulled it out of the box and saw the ads on the lockscreen. The suggested apps instead of my favorite apps on the home page also made me mad. Also the lack of a native camera app. There is a hidden system camera app but you can't add it to favorites. At least someone made a app so the Nexus 7 can use its native camera app. Stick with the N7 for now. There is a update for the KFHD but I do not know when. I was talking to a Amazon rep and they said it will be soon.
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The only reason I'd keep the KFHD is if I had amazon prime and loved their ecosystem, except I don't.
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I am in India and I thought the same when I started handling the KFHD... However, after rooting and getting my favorite apps on (dolphin, gapps, mxplayer, etc, am pretty happy with it.. I know a nexus would be better(open vvs locked, more compatible apps) but for $50 for the 16g and better speakers, I will stick with the KFHD. Also it gives me a chance to display my "hacking" skills... Lol...
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I bought Kindle Fire HD for what it is:
Best Speakers in class
Best Wi-Fi in class
Best format and weight for one-handed handling
Best Video Conference device (combination of excellent quality front camera, very good microphone, clear and loud speakers, bright screen)
Best tablet for Amazon Prime users
Amazon App Market is very good, not as diverse as Google Play, of course, but most of top games and content consumption apps are there. Now I only need to add Google Music and Youtube and I'll be all set. Rest of Google Apps are better fit for location aware devices, like smartphones.
The Kinfle Fire HD to me is a home companion device, not a road warrior. I can now finally stream Amazom Prime video in HD resolution ~ 100 yards away from my router at the edge of the property outside and still see and hear everything perfect without constant caching. No other tablet can even pretend to be able to do this. I still have my Google Galaxy Nexus phone for all custom ROMs and customizations till the cows come home.
P.S. Oh, and I don't mind special offers that Amazon puts on this device. Who can refuse freebies like $10 Gift card or $3 in Amazon Music? Many offers are Amazon Store specific and once you realize that Amazon is already the best eCommerce site in US with best variety, lowest prices, fastest shipping and best product review system, this is like a cherry on your pudding.
I'll put my two cents here. I'll summarize my feelings after owning a Kindle Fire HD for a week.
Pros:
Great Sound (Dolby audio)
One of the best 7" displays out there
Amazon Prime benefits including discounts on books, videos, and music.
Descent specifications (1GB RAM, 16GB, and 720p)
Competitively Priced $199 US
Cons:
Clumsy Launcher and ROM compared to stock Android:
"Carousel" likes to reload apps you don't want after reboots
Carousel is a bit large and obnoxious
No changing wallpapers or any other UI elements
Opt-out of Ads is $15 (without Root)
Amazon's App Store isn't nearly as large as Google Play (50,000 vs 500,000)
Locked Bootloader = no custom ROMs anytime soon (most likely not in 2012, but I'm still optimistic)
Limited Development/Support currently (Note: it's only a month old right now)
I would give it 85/100 right now.
With that said, this is a great device. The major limitation right now is the software, Amazon goofed up there.
Rooting opens up a lot of doors for this device e.g. Play Store, non-stock Launchers, and permission capabilities. Though everyone needs to be careful about this because there is no backup/restore mechanism for potential mistakes.
Summary
I'm hopeful that future developments for this device are more promising than the current environment.
I don't want to discourage anyone about getting this device if you like or use Amazon's stuff like Kindle, Prime, or other services.
But I think if you are looking here (XDA) you probably want something stock or not locked down like the Nexus 7 if you want to tweak to your hearts content.
Hello . Will rooting the KFHD will allow us to buy ebooks at later point of time thru amazon services. i may be interested as a android tablet which will allow freedom to user on downloading apps and games and also to read ebooks. will rooting would help . if so i can think of buying one. please let me know.
Yes, even on a rooted KFHD you can buy and read amazon ebooks. Or you can use another source for paid or free books!
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If you want great sound for games and movies yes not to forget about the great screen it has trust me its worth getting
Im using mine right now
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Kindle Fire HD vs ?
brkumar said:
It seems that Kindle Fire HD is the best Android tablet at this moment. I was hoping purchase a kindle fire HD, while travelling to US. Now, I am having second thoughts. I am from India and Amazon marketplace for Android is not available here. So, the only hope for me to completely utilize the Kindle Fire HD is to flash it with a custom/vanilla ROM.
However, based on the comments here and in the developers section, it seems Kindle fire HD is completely locked down and I have not seen any custom ROM yet. Will custom ROMs show up any time soon? What is your opinion on this purchase?
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brkumar,
Really the answer is a mixed bag as you are seeing with the responses.
As a developer, we like the Kindle Fire HD 7" since everything has been
a challenge. We have successfully piped over Jelly Bean on the Fire HD
but it was by no means easy and Buggy, well let's just say we need
another year. Then you have to ask yourself, is the time better spent
on the Asus Transformer, Nexus 7 or 10? The quick answer is yes,
the long term answer is probably no. Really, the Kindle Fire HD 7"
is a great piece of hardware and it is based on a solid TI Chipset
OMAP4460. I have found the sound to be better than the Nexus 7,
the screen clarity is not bad either. We run HD Videos on the
Kindle Fire HD 7" and really notice that Dolby is running, very
nice audio. The Kindle Fire HD 7" also "feels" solid in the hand.
The Kindle is responsive and is quite smooth when transitioning
from application to application. They did a great job on the screen
outdoor glare is almost non-existent. The unit is sturdy, we have
dropped it several times without damage. Finally at $199, not bad.
Amazon Store is nothing to highlight, so you are not missing
out. Just Root the device and install Google Play, you will have
plenty of options.
My complaints are a few. The mini output jack does not support
a mic. The volume up and down keys feel flimsy with little
tactile feedback. No rear facing Camera. You have to buy
a charger, they do not include one. Most of the VoIP applications
seem to have a problem with internal Mic, although Skype
does work.
These are my personal opinions, so take it
as just this, a XDA User opinion.
That is my ten cents.
Oh by the way, we do own 12 other tablets, so we have
been able to do a side by side comparison.
Thanks for the information, much appreciated!
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Thanks for the information, much appreciated!
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gitlygit,
So are you going to get one and add to the ever growing XDA Kindle Community?
We would love to have you here adding to this wonderful community!
Keep us posted.
I would like to put the CM 10.1 ROM on my Kindle Fire, but I don't want to lose Amazon Video. I'm assuming that Amazon Video doesn't work if I put a different ROM on my Fire. Is that assumption correct? Is there a way around this?
Thanks for any insight.
Funny I just installed it yesterday(amazon video)... I'm on the tablet version of cm 10.1, and I installed a version of amazon video I found laying around in the forums that is said to work on other android devices, here's the catch, the device can't be rooted, or so I have heard just like on kindles once you root it the instant video won't work, though k thought that was only prime so I am not completely sure how this affects it. So my answer that needs to be improves on is yes the app will work, as to actually watching the videos I am not sure, you may have to de-root the cm os, which I am not sure if that is a good idea. That's my 2 cents, see if anybody else can be of more use.
Edit: ever time I try to watch a free video I get a "unfortunately this program has stopped working" error
Seems like a stupid move for them to not release an android app for us to use their services, they'd rather we buy a kindle, or in this case not flash our kindle if we want to use it.
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My Kindle is already rooted and prime videos work. I have the stock rom with the play store. I want to use cm 10.1, but don't want to lose amazon prime videos. It's disappointing that this is even an issue.
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My Kindle is already rooted and prime videos work. I have the stock rom with the play store. I want to use cm 10.1, but don't want to lose amazon prime videos. It's disappointing that this is even an issue.
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I have CM10.1 on my Kindle now and live abroad so I cannot even use the Amazon video store. I'm curious though - can you access the videos by logging into Amazon in the tablet's browser instead, like you would if you were on a desktop?
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I have CM10.1 on my Kindle now and live abroad so I cannot even use the Amazon video store. I'm curious though - can you access the videos by logging into Amazon in the tablet's browser instead, like you would if you were on a desktop?
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You can if you have flash installed and working.
I just discovered that the Kinology ROM allows the use of Amazon Video, plus all the google framework and 3rd party launchers. It's not CM 10.1, but it is better than stock.
I have CM 10.1 and live abroad, I use a VPN and Firefox to watch Amazon Prime Videos.
Hey kindle owners ! I need your advice and also opinions on the 7' Kindle fire HD...!
I am a student and basically I'm getting a tablet for reading and also for movies/music. Before I actually buy it, I need to know what I should expect from getting a Kindle for my daily use. There will be a lil of light gaming tho.
I've read that there's no USB OTG function for kindle. One of the cons because this tablet is suppose to last at least for 5 years. Paying about 200usd on my own as a student so it'll be a painful experience if I don't know what I should expect from this tablet.
All opinions and advice are much appreciated !
You would be alot happier with the Nexus 7 (2013) device. That device has alot more freedom. Custom ROM's, Recovery and all that other stuff that the Kindle Fire HD (2013) does not have because Amazon doesn't like us on a different ROM.
I just acquired my Kindle and I am using it for the same reason. It has limited internal storage but I use Copy (20Gb) and GDrive (15Gb) to backup online (for free of course) and move files from my computer, phone and Kindle.
Rooting wasn't hard at all since these fine folks put together some great tools to use. I am running CM11 and I have yet to find any issues whatsoever.
I have only been using it a few days but I can see this being a huge asset for school.
Regard,
FB
You can't get a brand new HD 2012 anymore. Only used. And used products are the worst. They could be selling you a stolen device or a half broken device.
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wire55 said:
You can't get a brand new HD 2012 anymore. Only used. And used products are the worst. They could be selling you a stolen device or a half broken device.
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Hello. I'm getting myself the new Kindle Fire HD 7' . Don't see any reason why I should go for the older one.
FireBean said:
I just acquired my Kindle and I am using it for the same reason. It has limited internal storage but I use Copy (20Gb) and GDrive (15Gb) to backup online (for free of course) and move files from my computer, phone and Kindle.
Rooting wasn't hard at all since these fine folks put together some great tools to use. I am running CM11 and I have yet to find any issues whatsoever.
I have only been using it a few days but I can see this being a huge asset for school.
Regard,
FB
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One of the answers I've been praying to see. haha.. How is reading on the 7' tablet? Is it too small ? I'm afraid that I won't be able to read and need zoom in just to read a part of the page. ( especially magazines) Anyway thanks for replying! :good::good:
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You would be alot happier with the Nexus 7 (2013) device. That device has alot more freedom. Custom ROM's, Recovery and all that other stuff that the Kindle Fire HD (2013) does not have because Amazon doesn't like us on a different ROM.
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I would be happier with the Nexus 7 too, if I had the money to buy one :crying: . However I have been rooting my phone and I stick to one rom after that. I'm not really into development so yeah, more like daily use and some cool add-ons i can do to it . Thanks for replying !
Let's see reasons to buy older 2012 kindle, specs are about the same, it is flashable 2013 is not, we have recovery methods that work on the 2012, we don't on the 2013... 2012 has camera and mic, 2013 doesn't, 2012 has HDMI out, 2013 doesn't... In general the 2013 isn't that great, I think Google play store use on it is still not fully working too, I'll let other people confirm that though.
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Let's see reasons to buy older 2012 kindle, specs are about the same, it is flashable 2013 is not, we have recovery methods that work on the 2012, we don't on the 2013... 2012 has camera and mic, 2013 doesn't, 2012 has HDMI out, 2013 doesn't... In general the 2013 isn't that great, I think Google play store use on it is still not fully working too, I'll let other people confirm that though.
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This is why you get the 2012. You can get 2012 one for $129 2013 is $199
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One of the answers I've been praying to see. haha.. How is reading on the 7' tablet? Is it too small ? I'm afraid that I won't be able to read and need zoom in just to read a part of the page. ( especially magazines) Anyway thanks for replying! :good::good:
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I think its perfect for reading; not too big or small. If you do need to zoom its just a quick swipe.
I have the 2012 version and haven't had my hands on a 2013 to compare.
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Let's see reasons to buy older 2012 kindle, specs are about the same, it is flashable 2013 is not, we have recovery methods that work on the 2012, we don't on the 2013... 2012 has camera and mic, 2013 doesn't, 2012 has HDMI out, 2013 doesn't... In general the 2013 isn't that great, I think Google play store use on it is still not fully working too, I'll let other people confirm that though.
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Oh my . didn't notice that .... was too concentrated on the functions in the system and also purchases on amazon.... Thanks for the comparison ... Wouldn't have notice it without your help ! :good:
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This is why you get the 2012. You can get 2012 one for $129 2013 is $199
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Sadly, over in Malaysia, I'll have to get it via a person managing with suppliers . And they only carry the new Kindle Fire HD. Well that's just so darn disappointing for me. :crying:
Guys, I have asked for the 2012 version. As you guys have said, 2012 version is much more worth it right? What about the firmware + apps? The software can be converted into the CM 11 without any lags right? Thanks for the reply.... Hope I get this one soon to confirm my purchase !
Apparently , the older version of kindle will cost me 60 USD extra. That really sucks. But please do advise me on the apps and software. From what the seller said, apps and software could be hard for me to get as time pass by. But if I were to root + flash a new rom, that wouldn't be a problem right?
Correct, we have cm 11 ROMs running on it smoothly. The original amazon is on it was only ICS based, which I think was weird, seems like every time amazon releases a new device they don't have the current build of android on it, they have previous version on it. I mean I think even the hdx had 4.2.2 on it instead of 4.3, considering kitkat had just come out and its 4.4.
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I bought a 7" Kindle Fire HD last week when it was on sale for only 79€. I think it's the best purchase I made this year :laugh:
Just got my X43Z60 yesterday.
I am trying to take advantage of Amazon Prime Video which works very well on this device, but I also would like to get google play content so I was wondering, if I flash a custom rom, will I still be able to watch prime videos and if anybody has any suggestion on a kid friendly app that will limit the usage similar to free time?
You can't watch amazon prime on a custom ROM, it might be possible with flash on kitkat but I have never tried, I heard the functionality broke a while back to use it with flash. If you just got the kindle you might wanna mention what the os version is, because the 2013 kindles are not flashable with custom ROMs outside of the kindle water ROM that just reuses the stock kernel.
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You can't watch amazon prime on a custom ROM, it might be possible with flash on kitkat but I have never tried, I heard the functionality broke a while back to use it with flash. If you just got the kindle you might wanna mention what the os version is, because the 2013 kindles are not flashable with custom ROMs outside of the kindle water ROM that just reuses the stock kernel.
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Thank you.
I am using 7.4.8
My son is used to Playbook, which is really excellent in terms of functionality & ease of use, however lack of apps that he likes, and games is making it a bit outdated. Youtube and all that stuff is actually great on Playbook, no ads, good interface, and I can let him play with it anyway he wants, but with this Kindle, it's a little weird. Even in Kids freetime mode you can uninstall apps.
I really like the idea of freetime unlimited and I think I am going to go with that for now.
OK yea yours is the 2012 then, completely flashable.
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Thank you.
I am using 7.4.8
My son is used to Playbook, which is really excellent in terms of functionality & ease of use, however lack of apps that he likes, and games is making it a bit outdated. Youtube and all that stuff is actually great on Playbook, no ads, good interface, and I can let him play with it anyway he wants, but with this Kindle, it's a little weird. Even in Kids freetime mode you can uninstall apps.
I really like the idea of freetime unlimited and I think I am going to go with that for now.
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You can watch Amazon Instant Videos (rented/bought movies and shows) with flash but you cannot watch Prime Videos unless you are running Amazon firmware. You can't even access them. I have a Prime account and it's just not possible.
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