We know that one of the goodie from Z2 is that it has a special audio technology that are captable to reduce noise in some way
but is it hardware or software stuff?? i see mods that port Z2 audio stuff to other devices, does the noise reduction part really works??
or it is software but contain some bulls*** like X-reality and photo quality enhancement that make it impossible to port to other devices??
any idea guys??
(i'm not requesting for a mod or something, just interested to know what it is)
KWOKSFUNG said:
We know that one of the goodie from Z2 is that it has a special audio technology that are captable to reduce noise in some way
but is it hardware or software stuff?? i see mods that port Z2 audio stuff to other devices, does the noise reduction part really works??
or it is software but contain some bulls*** like X-reality and photo quality enhancement that make it impossible to port to other devices??
any idea guys??
(i'm not requesting for a mod or something, just interested to know what it is)
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If you're talking about the Digital Noice Cancelling it's implemented to the Z2 and need specific headset.
Each earphone in the Sony MDR-NC31EM headset has outward-facing microphone. The two mikes pick up background noise and send it for processing to the Xperia Z2.
Following this, a signal processor inverts the noise's phase by creating an anti-noise wave. This gets mixed with the audio that is being played on the phone.
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If you're talking about the Digital Noice Cancelling it's implemented to the Z2 and need specific headset.
Each earphone in the Sony MDR-NC31EM headset has outward-facing microphone. The two mikes pick up background noise and send it for processing to the Xperia Z2.
Following this, a signal processor inverts the noise's phase by creating an anti-noise wave. This gets mixed with the audio that is being played on the phone.
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I see, if i got that head phone, can z1 do digital noise cancelation like how the z2 did??
KWOKSFUNG said:
I see, if i got that head phone, can z1 do digital noise cancelation like how the z2 did??
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I don't think so, this technology is not included in the Xperia Z1 so that wont work even with proper headset.
I think that it needs to be confirmed. I'll try getting my hands on the Z2 headset and putting mixer_paths from the Z2. That might work if it's not buried deeper in the Z2 software.
I don't think that I'll get my hands on the Z2 headset before it gets released though.
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I thought it was hardware based, i don't know
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All is possible ...
Oh this thread is gettng old lol
thanks you guys for answering XD
I'm thinking that the only possible hardware problem on Z1 is the audio jack?
maybe the audio jack on z2 contains an audio-in part for background noise so it can process for the noise??
are the audio jack for z1 and z2 really different in terms of hardware??
if it's same... i think it's logically port-able to z1 maybe?? (probably need some work on kernel... oh well)
just saying XD
QualQuek said:
If you're talking about the Digital Noice Cancelling it's implemented to the Z2 and need specific headset.
Each earphone in the Sony MDR-NC31EM headset has outward-facing microphone. The two mikes pick up background noise and send it for processing to the Xperia Z2.
Following this, a signal processor inverts the noise's phase by creating an anti-noise wave. This gets mixed with the audio that is being played on the phone.
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I may say something stupid but you said that a SIGNAL PROCESSOR inverts the noise's phrase. My question is why we cannot "emulate" this processor at our main processor?
mitsosJL said:
I may say something stupid but you said that a SIGNAL PROCESSOR inverts the noise's phrase. My question is why we cannot "emulate" this processor at our main processor?
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If the signal processor is a chip it wont be pretty possible to be port for standard cpu, (or Sony wont need that chip)
I'm not saying it's impossible, this is XDA and genius here are good at porting
just hope it's software (run by the standard processor) stuff so it may be easier
Guys, a signal processor via software would be slower and cpu intense... =(
fernandodistinto said:
Guys, a signal processor via software would be slower and cpu intense... =(
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haha, nobody really cares about CPU pressure when u are enjoying music
KWOKSFUNG said:
haha, nobody really cares about CPU pressure when u are enjoying music
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You should care, because it would drain lot of battery power, and phone would heat up easily.
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You should care, because it would drain lot of battery power, and phone would heat up easily.
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I believe our cpu can handle the extra stuff within 1Ghz
If there's sound processing chip, it will heat up and drain battery anyway (logically
Sound processing chip is specialized for that kind of work, as our snapdragon 800 are not.
If z2 use some kind of sound processor it has speed around few mhz, but they have almost zero latency and lag.
It's hard to explain for me on English, but I study that right now on my college.
It can be done, but chanse that will work good is close to nothing if it is hardware based feature.
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Sound processing chip is specialized for that kind of work, as our snapdragon 800 are not.
If z2 use some kind of sound processor it has speed around few mhz, but they have almost zero latency and lag.
It's hard to explain for me on English, but I study that right now on my college.
It can be done, but chanse that will work good is close to nothing if it is hardware based feature.
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This is making sense
so can someone tell if Z2 really got a special chip
or just the regular s801?
KWOKSFUNG said:
This is making sense
so can someone tell if Z2 really got a special chip
or just the regular s801?
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Only Sony know does Z1 have separate sound chipset or not. But I think it use Qualcomm's sound chipset and 801 does not have much difference from 800 (only OC some things) so I think/hope Digital Noise Cancellation will be ported to Z1.
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Only Sony know does Z1 have separate sound chipset or not. But I think it use Qualcomm's sound chipset and 801 does not have much difference from 800 (only OC some things) so I think/hope Digital Noise Cancellation will be ported to Z1.
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Ya i know Z1 dont have the chipset but i'm not sure if Z2 do
if Z2 doesnt have any chip either, we have a good news
still, there might be problem with the audio jack /_\
I was reading around Internet but didn't find answer.
Only thing that I found is that headphones have 2 mics which record audio from surrounding and send to Xperia Z2 for digital sound processing (didnt claim hardware or software), and then xperia z2 do the job of noise cancelation.
Also, that will not work on any other phone so far as Sony says.
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electrash said:
I was reading around Internet but didn't find answer.
Only thing that I found is that headphones have 2 mics which record audio from surrounding and send to Xperia Z2 for digital sound processing (didnt claim hardware or software), and then xperia z2 do the job of noise cancelation.
Also, that will not work on any other phone so far as Sony says.
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haha ofcoz sony dont want us to know more about it XD
well just googled some stuff
Xperia Z2 and the noise cancellation headphone has 5 pole audio jack and our Z1 seems to got 4 /_\ (or maybe 5?? i'm not sure)
Maybe the the extra pole do the job??
I really hope someone who love doing drop test and break the phone just to show how rich he is will try to open the case of a Z2 and show us what's inside actually
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Well. As Tittle Mention, What's The Differences Between X8 And W8 Speaker?
Is It Possible To Change My X8 Speaker To W8 Speaker?
Which I Don't Mind To Pay For It.
I Heard People Say That, W8 Has A Clearer Speaker? Uhmm.
Can Anyone Answer? :X
Yes sound enhancement is good in w8.the headset also is so good.you can replace speaker but you won't get that clarity:thumbdown:
Xperian8~ click thanks if it helps...
I See. Do You Know The Price For W8 Speaker?
What Do You Mean By Clarity? :O
Bro,
Me think both of them has a same hardware.
If u re on costum rom,Why dont u try CKKnot's SRS trumedia for better audio quality.
His thread is here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1556035
there indeed is difference in w8 and x8 speakers... i myself noticed... listening to my w8 and my friend's x8 gave difference... w8 has richer bass and treble as compared to x8...
Just to clarify there are more "speaker" for or in the phone.
The headset speakers are indeed in a different quality league form our X8's lowest end speakers, but I don't think you think of these.
The other two is the loud speaker (which are used when phone is ringing for example) the second is the in-call speaker which is used when you are calling of course.
In hardware these two are identical in X8 and W8 as far as I know (except for the manufacturer part number) W8 however has some sound enchantment technologies built in (like truebass, and maybe SRS but I'm not sure about that).
To make it short: if You use stock OS there is difference, but from software side. The hardware is identical in W8 and X8 sadly or not.
JiaYong said:
I See. Do You Know The Price For W8 Speaker?
What Do You Mean By Clarity? :O
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i don't know the price.clarity meant sound clarity..
Xperian8~ click thanks if it helps...
Brighter screen
Walkman stickers on the mask
Better material or the mask.
Spevky said:
Brighter screen
Walkman stickers on the mask
Better material or the mask.
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Differences between the "Speakers"
Not the phone as a whole. Lol
i have a w8 and a frend of mine gt an x8 we do have same rom gdx so we test using google play the result w8 hit the mark better than x8 we also try dolby modules same result
and i have a free speaker for w8 hahaha cool
Key is "W"8 = Walkman 8 For sure W8 have an advantage on Music [speaker] Whats the point sony make a two different Phone [w8/x8] if its the Same.
Well if it possible, you can pay money and ask a pro phone dealer to change it for you.... ebay got sell for those separated W8 speaker's LOL
Hi all !
Does anyone happen to know how good the DAC is on the Z ?
Thanks !
phone isnt out yet..
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Hi all !
Does anyone happen to know how good the DAC is on the Z ?
Thanks !
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It's integrated in S4pro chip, just like N4 and OG
Thanks noxlord !
Bad news for us then ...
@lokenok Thanks Mr Obvious.
In s4pro really good DAC but quiet. So question whether there are additional amplifiers.
This is SONY we're talking about... they always paid lots of attention to their devices' Walkman feature so i'm sure they won't screw this one up.
I seriously hope the DAC is good..although there is always the root tweaks
If the DAC is not good, tweaks won't help. But I'm also confident that Sony did their work great.
NOTE 1 has a bad DAC but with tweaks it sounds great!
The HTC One s was loud and that has a S4 chip, I have also listened to the Nexus 4 and the audio is very good, also xperia T is good but just needs to be a bit louder
Yeah, sound is said to be really good on N4, but really low too.
I hope Sony techies will amplify the sound. I'd really love to use good IEMs on this device.
My local three store had a xperia z today (was very surprised at this actually) had over and hours play with it love everything about it and the audio is very good, it is more than loud enough. I also played with the nexus 4 again and the Z is louder not that the nexus 4 is low in volume.
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My local three store had a xperia z today (was very surprised at this actually) had over and hours play with it love everything about it and the audio is very good, it is more than loud enough. I also played with the nexus 4 again and the Z is louder not that the nexus 4 is low in volume.
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What about THAT display??
dibdin said:
What about THAT display??
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Nothing short of amazing, I was amazed by the screens on the Xperis S & T this one is a whole new league and plus its the first 1080p screen I have seen. It is just amazing and totally cannot wait to get mine on feb 28th or march 1st.
@dibdin There's already an interesting screen topic in Q&A. Let's keep it about the sound here.
@RWSAMHTC Thanks for your input ! Which kind of headphones did you try it with ? Do you know their impedance ?
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@dibdin There's already an interesting screen topic in Q&A. Let's keep it about the sound here.
@RWSAMHTC Thanks for your input ! Which kind of headphones did you try it with ? Do you know their impedance ?
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I tried it with my urbeats in ear headsets. I tried 15 different types of songs from bashment, reggae, rnb etc. I mostly like bass and loudness and the xperia z did very well I am very please with it. Loudness in headphones was always my main issue, now I dont need to worry about that. I also tried the loudspeaker it was loud enough not the loudest of speakers but loud enough. couldnt try any phone calls though. Also test camera and video and video audio quality which on my one x and sgs3/gn2 wasnt the greatest atall. Very impressed with the z really. Atm the only think i think it needs is a blocking mode for calls and texts.
OK great to hear [no pun intended] that the sound is 'LOUD'..Other aspects like the bass and all can be tweaked..i was hoping that i wont have to carry an amplifier.
I played around with different equalizer settings, really impressed with bass and the loudness
Odp: [Q] Xperia Z's Audio DAC ?
So the loudness of a speaker is comparable due to Xperia T?
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So the loudness of a speaker is comparable due to Xperia T?
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Loud speaker seems louder than the T, the Ts loudspeaker was just poor imo.
Hey everyone, I've been pretty happy with my Xperia Z until yesterday when I was out and people called me and I couldn't really hear anything they said as the volume was too low in the earphone.
The earphone was / is clean and dry and I have tried different settings and of course max volume etc but it just seems to be too low?
Anyone had any better success with talking or rather listening to people trying to talk to you in traffic or noisy environments?
Surely Sony's flagship phone must let you actually hear what people say when they are calling you?
EDIT: I actually tried the service menu and the tests are pretty loud and very clear compared to calls... so at least the hardware seems to be ABLE to do it's job...
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Hey everyone, I've been pretty happy with my Xperia Z until yesterday when I was out and people called me and I couldn't really hear anything they said as the volume was too low in the earphone.
The earphone was / is clean and dry and I have tried different settings and of course max volume etc but it just seems to be too low?
Anyone had any better success with talking or rather listening to people trying to talk to you in traffic or noisy environments?
Surely Sony's flagship phone must let you actually hear what people say when they are calling you?
EDIT: I actually tried the service menu and the tests are pretty loud and very clear compared to calls... so at least the hardware seems to be ABLE to do it's job...
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I find the sound quality from the earpiece terrible. It's not only quiet but very muffled and I can't really hear people on the phone even in quiet environments. I'm going to take the phone back because of this!
SF
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I actually tried the service menu and the tests are pretty loud and very clear compared to calls...
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confirmed
sound on z not good maybe due of water resistance of the phone
Solidswede said:
Hey everyone, I've been pretty happy with my Xperia Z until yesterday when I was out and people called me and I couldn't really hear anything they said as the volume was too low in the earphone.
The earphone was / is clean and dry and I have tried different settings and of course max volume etc but it just seems to be too low?
Anyone had any better success with talking or rather listening to people trying to talk to you in traffic or noisy environments?
Surely Sony's flagship phone must let you actually hear what people say when they are calling you?
EDIT: I actually tried the service menu and the tests are pretty loud and very clear compared to calls... so at least the hardware seems to be ABLE to do it's job...
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If you haven't yet, try turning off the Speaker voice enhancement under Call settings. That actually improved the in-call sound quality quite a bit for me.
Hacker4748 said:
If you haven't yet, try turning off the Speaker voice enhancement under Call settings. That actually improved the in-call sound quality quite a bit for me.
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Hm mine was off but turned it on now to see differences, will have a go tomorrow. Also there is a EQ for calls there as well that I haven't tried yet. I'm hoping that it's just the firmware that needs some extra push as the service menu proves Z can provide some serious quality in the hardware...
please confirm your problem here , so sony support can see this
http://talk.sonymobile.com/thread/123279?tstart=0
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Yes the problem still remains no matter what settings you do... I wonder if a rooted phone with a sound mod might increase the volume on the call side...?
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please confirm your problem here , so sony support can see this
http://talk.sonymobile.com/thread/123279?tstart=0
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iam about 2 buy a smart phone and cant choose between s4 and xperia z so i wanna ask few questions here
1-Octa core and quad core.....Much difference?
2-the camera compression which makes pics worse than s4....can it be solved by update?
3-what about sound quality is it that bad as they say in reviews?
thanks in advance
1) no
2) not sure
3) it's alright. Compared to my previous phones like tx, t, zl it's a bit off.
Ill be honest with you, z may not have the best specs Or screen Or whatever. But once you hold it in your hands you don't want to let it go.
S4 has features, but it's a phone that I cant bring out to show off.
The z, it's a beauty with water proof, a phone that I'm proud of to bring out with confidence. I don't even know how to explain the beauty and sexiness of the phone. It's like better than looking at girls ( okay I'm going to far) but you understand what I mean lol.
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iam about 2 buy a smart phone and cant choose between s4 and xperia z so i wanna ask few quee and quad core.....Much difference?
2-the camera compression which makes pics worse than s4....can it be solved by update?
3-what about sound quality is it that bad as they say in reviews?
thanks in advance
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It's actually just 2x quad so in terms of speed, there's no difference
2. Sony is working on an update for the camera and power management, can't say results yet but it will improve.
3 I have no problem with the speaker, compared to s2 I find the quality better here.
But the speaker will get low for about 30 minutes if you drop the phone in water.
The S4 will melt if you drop it in water.
If you're really unsure just test both devices. I went with the Z for waterproof, I myself was faced with this decision. (but with HTC1)
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2. Sony is working on an update for the camera and power management, can't say results yet but it will improve.
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Oh really? Did your magical crystal ball told you or from where you know? I haven't found any statement from Sony regarding a fix yet
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Oh really? Did your magical crystal ball told you or from where you know? I haven't found any statement from Sony regarding a fix yet
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Maybe you have to check sony's forum not xda ,cause they say the camera will be fixed.
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gm007 said:
Maybe you have to check sony's forum not xda ,cause they say the camera will be fixed.
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Those guys over on the Sony forum aren't all that reliable though to be fair
cvi emEasted
I am about to buy a smartphone like you do.
1- for the hardware there is really not much of a difference between the two in raw power..
2- camera is not so bad, i think it's on par with the S4 without the iAuto mod.. but software will be improved, and you always can use mods..
3- sound quality, have no idea, i still need to buy the phone.. but i guess it will be ok.. but i don't use speaker to listen to song.. so i don't care even if it was low..
I will go with the xperia z, its just beautiful, hardware? almost the same.
i was considering the nexus 4, because of the fast updates ecc ecc..
but the Z is just amazing... so i will buy it next week.
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Those guys over on the Sony forum aren't all that reliable though to be fair
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But we have to believe someone don't you think so?or we all talking bul***t
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Higgins12 said:
Oh really? Did your magical crystal ball told you or from where you know? I haven't found any statement from Sony regarding a fix yet
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Don't be so rude, why would you try to make me into a fool when you have no clue... Christ
abokorayem said:
iam about 2 buy a smart phone and cant choose between s4 and xperia z so i wanna ask few questions here
1-Octa core and quad core.....Much difference?
2-the camera compression which makes pics worse than s4....can it be solved by update?
3-what about sound quality is it that bad as they say in reviews?
thanks in advance
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If I may believe the technical people the 8 core processor should be able to extend your battery life which sounds logical to me. Speed wise though it shouldn't make too much of a difference since only max 4 cores are being used at the time in the S4 and not 8. Despite that I bet the S4 will have a better benchmark score than the Z, the real question though is if it would be a noticeable difference in real time daily use.
If the camera issue can be fixed? I don't see a reason why not since it isn't a hardware issue. Yet again, the question will be if Sony will fix it.
Sound quality from the speakers definitely isn't gonna wow you, I can guarantee. However it's not really that bad.. I agree that it has horrible placement and isn't really loud but I personally never use the speakers. I have my headphones and will soon purchase the NFC speakers so to me it isn't a big issue.
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If I may believe the technical people the 8 core processor should be able to extend your battery life which sounds logical to me. Speed wise though it shouldn't make too much of a difference since only max 4 cores are being used at the time in the S4 and not 8. Despite that I bet the S4 will have a better benchmark score than the Z, the real question though is if it would be a noticeable difference in real time daily use.
If the camera issue can be fixed? I don't see a reason why not since it isn't a hardware issue. Yet again, the question will be if Sony will fix it.
Sound quality from the speakers definitely isn't gonna wow you, I can guarantee. However it's not really that bad.. I agree that it has horrible placement and isn't really loud but I personally never use the speakers. I have my headphones and will soon purchase the NFC speakers so to me it isn't a big issue.
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And the first batches with galaxy s4 will come with snapdragon and not exynos. New octa exynos chips arent even being massproduced just yet and might take awhile. (P.S. This info might being outdated, this is what I last heard.)
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Hello, I have an Xperia Z for like 3 weeks now, and i was wondering if this was normal, the sound of my Xperia Z is not that high, I can hear it, but not as much as i thought it would be, I mean through speakers by the way, not through Headset, Also Yes: i have already raised above safe volume but still it is not very loud...
And no, i am really not an that much asking person, but this is really not normal i think, is this an common problem?
I had an Xperia Arc before the Z by the way, So i am used to the sound level of Xperia Arc
PS: I am new, Hello! this is my first post!
PPS: I live in The Netherlands so i dont know if there is any difference between Sound levels per country, so you know
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Hello, I have an Xperia Z for like 3 weeks now, and i was wondering if this was normal, the sound of my Xperia Z is not that high, I can hear it, but not as much as i thought it would be, I mean through speakers by the way, not through Headset, Also Yes: i have already raised above safe volume but still it is not very loud...
And no, i am really not an that much asking person, but this is really not normal i think, is this an common problem?
I had an Xperia Arc before the Z by the way, So i am used to the sound level of Xperia Arc
PS: I am new, Hello! this is my first post!
PPS: I live in The Netherlands so i dont know if there is any difference between Sound levels per country, so you know
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thr s no problem in sound of Xperia Z
take to service maybe thr s problem in ur device so they may change it
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Tlcoman said:
Hello, I have an Xperia Z for like 3 weeks now, and i was wondering if this was normal, the sound of my Xperia Z is not that high, I can hear it, but not as much as i thought it would be, I mean through speakers by the way, not through Headset, Also Yes: i have already raised above safe volume but still it is not very loud...
And no, i am really not an that much asking person, but this is really not normal i think, is this an common problem?
I had an Xperia Arc before the Z by the way, So i am used to the sound level of Xperia Arc
PS: I am new, Hello! this is my first post!
PPS: I live in The Netherlands so i dont know if there is any difference between Sound levels per country, so you know
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no the speaker is ****ty, unless you unlock your bootloader and install doom kernel to raise the volume to a decent level.
Go into dev section and install purest under by zero, it is one Hugh problem with XZ but after you install it you will have to turn volume down
Edit here you go http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2190558
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