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What to expect from Android 4.2

Some nice features coming in
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/1...rogress-gallery-and-more-multiple-user-stuff/
Oct. 29th is not very far away!!
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Hmmm, I look forward to the official changelog. JellyBean works wonders at the moment.
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azoller1 said:
Oct. 29th is not very far away!!
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Well, the 29th may be soon, but an announcement is far from an upgrade. That doesn't mean were gonna get it any time soon.

boufa said:
Well, the 29th may be soon, but an announcement is far from an upgrade. That doesn't mean were gonna get it any time soon.
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You must not understand what nexus means
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So that mean we will get another update soon. That's fast. :good:

That's why I get nexus devices they always get updated first well I don't have a nexus phone yet
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If I remember correctly, there was quite a few weeks between the announcement and the AOSP availability for ICS. Sure, Nexus gets it as soon it hits AOSP. But announcing it does not imply AOSP availability the same day.

RMerlin said:
If I remember correctly, there was quite a few weeks between the announcement and the AOSP availability for ICS. Sure, Nexus gets it as soon it hits AOSP. But announcing it does not imply AOSP availability the same day.
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Everyone knows that
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Face plant when you find the "4.2" part is more of a "42" reference in that the new LG Nexus phone is the answer to life, the universe and everything.
We'll see if it's more than the Google employee that tweeted "L.O.L" after the 29th.

BrianDigital said:
Everyone knows that
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Apparently not, as some people seem to expect Google to announce 4.2 Monday, and download it on their Nexus 7 Tuesday.

Does any one thinks that 4.1.2 and 4.2 will be same?
And more over They named 4.2 Jelly bean again, instead of Kim Lime Pie

Cant wait.
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As stated, it will only be announced later this month, but it will make a nice Christmas present though...
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you guys obviously don't understand what nexus means. at the last I/O event, they announced it JB4.1, and it went live the same day... as well as every device they gave out that day had it pre installed.
hell, i didn't even have a nexus device, but our developers in the kindle fire section had a rom ready within 12 hours.

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you guys obviously don't understand what nexus means. at the last I/O event, they announced it JB4.1, and it went live the same day... as well as every device they gave out that day had it pre installed.
hell, i didn't even have a nexus device, but our developers in the kindle fire section had a rom ready within 12 hours.
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That was only a preview build. AOSP released it weeks later.
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hirenvasani said:
Does any one thinks that 4.1.2 and 4.2 will be same?
And more over They named 4.2 Jelly bean again, instead of Kim Lime Pie
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Kim Lime Pie, wasn't he that Korean dictator? I don't want him anywhere near my Nexus.

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you guys obviously don't understand what nexus means.
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Well, everyone knows that it's that strange glowing thread of gas where Captains Picard and Kirk got to meet each other!!!
The rest is your own interpretation of events. Never had a service level agreement that shows a guaranteed release upon announcement, but it's lined up so far. It's likely that 4.2 will be available on our devices fast due to no vendor customization.

Bad news guys Oct 29th event cancelled, thanks to Hurricane Sandy
We will have to wait more

That was the highlight of the week.

OMG Life as we know it will stop and wait for the event to be re scheduled.I hope the people in the path of the storm seek shelter and be safe..
Never forget the people and there families.. Hurricanes are nothing to mess with.Being from southern florida been thru a few..

My thoughts on Nexus devices and Google Edition Phones.

I just bought my Nexus 4 not long ago. I am really impressed by how this phone is designed and how it functions despite of the flaws it has. It came shipping with the latest Android 4.2.2(maybe not anymore).
Then i recalled Google's policy about phones only having 18 months of Android Support(something like that). Anything more than that, either rely on this forum for newer versions of Android or get a new phone.
Then with Samsung Galaxy S4 and HTC One releasing their own Google Edition types. I was just wondering did Google ditch their Nexus fans for these alternatives.
I mean....Nexus 4 is nearly an 8 months old device. Only 10 more months to go and who knows whether this device can live till the next Google I/O for its next major upgrade of Android. Maybe Google foresaw this coming and hence decided to release Galaxy S4 and One's Google Edition?
What do you guys think?
Sent from My Nexus 4 with Vanilla Android! Not those *****y phones who called themselves Google Editions!

They're Google editions not nexus and they're what people have been requesting for years.
Just sick that Samsung leak 4.3 before we have it, that stinks

Critical thoughts
How I feel: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2340879

CalamitySir said:
I just bought my Nexus 4 not long ago. I am really impressed by how this phone is designed and how it functions despite of the flaws it has. It came shipping with the latest Android 4.2.2(maybe not anymore).
Then i recalled Google's policy about phones only having 18 months of Android Support(something like that). Anything more than that, either rely on this forum for newer versions of Android or get a new phone.
Then with Samsung Galaxy S4 and HTC One releasing their own Google Edition types. I was just wondering did Google ditch their Nexus fans for these alternatives.
I mean....Nexus 4 is nearly an 8 months old device. Only 10 more months to go and who knows whether this device can live till the next Google I/O for its next major upgrade of Android. Maybe Google foresaw this coming and hence decided to release Galaxy S4 and One's Google Edition?
What do you guys think?
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Google has said they won't stop Nexus program. This GE program is still OEM dependent. The upgrades will come from OEM and not Google.
Also these devices won't be part of AOSP like Nexus devices are.
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How I feel: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2340879
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Sent from My Nexus 4 with Vanilla Android! Not those *****y phones who called themselves Google Editions!
OMG! I am so sorry I didn't see your thread and I opened a new one. But we have the same idea/thinking. And you are really right they are junks. I am just wondering how Google is going to repay us Nexus fans looking at how badly timed their I/O as it usually happens around the middle of the year. And this device is going to be so called "expired" by next year April.
Is Nexus 4 going to only have 4.3(upcoming) as its latest version looking at how it is only a minor upgrade compared to the previous nexus devices.
What I really hope is that Google can launch 5.0(maybe) before Nexus 4 go into retirement although I know that we still have this community to count on for future Android upgrades. If they don't release it by then, I am really going to be having doubts about their treatment to us Nexus fans.

atulalvenkar said:
Google has said they won't stop Nexus program. This GE program is still OEM dependent. The upgrades will come from OEM and not Google.
Also these devices won't be part of AOSP like Nexus devices are.
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OK I didn't read up on that part. Let's just hope those OEM continue to support their own skinned Android while leaving these behind.
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CalamitySir said:
And you are really right they are junks. I am just wondering how Google is going to repay us Nexus fans looking at how badly timed their I/O as it usually happens around the middle of the year.
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Repay you for what? How was Google I/O badly timed? It is around the same time every year.

My GSM Galaxy Nexus is beyond its 18-month update window so if it gets 4.3, then Google may continue support beyond that window.
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The devices will be buildable in aosp for a good while, so don't be worried. A quad core phone with 2gb ram isn't losing support any time soon. Especially a nexus. My crespo has 4.2, and it shipped with GB..... Think of it like that.
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rubiconjp said:
My GSM Galaxy Nexus is beyond its 18-month update window so if it gets 4.3, then Google may continue support beyond that window.
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From a technical point of view it will get 4.3 and KLP, the hardware is powerful enough if it can handle 4.2.2.
On the other side there is of course the $$$ for support of such old devices...

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Repay you for what? How was Google I/O badly timed? It is around the same time every year.
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I know its around the same time every year but Nexus 4 had a bad release date looking that this year I/O didn't release any new Android and the next one we are getting is only 4.3.
If we traced it forward, the next I/O should be around June next year which is already over the date of Google Support. Which means we won't be getting the next version after 4.3 officially but ofc we can still rely on our Devs here for their future builds(big thanks to them!!)
Unless, they are going to have their next major upgrade officially before next year I/O. If not they are just betraying us by telling us to get a new Nexus Device and only upgrading it once and its a minor one too(mainly under the hood stuffs).
Which leads me to think they are using better phones with better sales(fact) to continue their line of Android upgrades because it was badly timed. OK maybe partially due to the hurricane last year and they had to pull it back.
Sent from My Nexus 4 with Vanilla Android! Not those *****y phones who called themselves Google Editions!

CalamitySir said:
I know its around the same time every year but Nexus 4 had a bad release date looking that this year I/O didn't release any new Android and the next one we are getting is only 4.3.
If we traced it forward, the next I/O should be around June next year which is already over the date of Google Support. Which means we won't be getting the next version after 4.3 officially but ofc we can still rely on our Devs here for their future builds(big thanks to them!!)
Unless, they are going to have their next major upgrade officially before next year I/O. If not they are just betraying us by telling us to get a new Nexus Device and only upgrading it once and its a minor one too(mainly under the hood stuffs).
Which leads me to think they are using better phones with better sales(fact) to continue their line of Android upgrades because it was badly timed. OK maybe partially due to the hurricane last year and they had to pull it back.
Sent from My Nexus 4 with Vanilla Android! Not those *****y phones who called themselves Google Editions!
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No offense mate, but this is just a pile of bullsh*t.
Literally nothing of the above makes any sense.
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No idea what the OP means by "over the date of Google Support"...
There was some time ago a move by Google to convince OEMs (!) to support their phones 18months after release, this was of course nothing binding, but more like a "recommendation" by Google.
Google never said there is a time-frame for Nexus support, until the phones hardware can support a new Release, there will be AOSP support for it.

Testraindrop said:
No idea what the OP means by "over the date of Google Support"...
There was some time ago a move by Google to convince OEMs (!) to support their phones 18months after release, this was of course nothing binding, but more like a "recommendation" by Google.
Google never said there is a time-frame for Nexus support, until the phones hardware can support a new Release, there will be AOSP support for it.
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Ya I'm not quite sure where the OP is getting his/ her info from either..
Google will continue to support the Nexus line so long as the hardware is compatible with the software..
Google did I/0 right this year as its a developer conference and shouldn't be used for new products IMHO..

Testraindrop said:
No idea what the OP means by "over the date of Google Support"...
There was some time ago a move by Google to convince OEMs (!) to support their phones 18months after release, this was of course nothing binding, but more like a "recommendation" by Google.
Google never said there is a time-frame for Nexus support, until the phones hardware can support a new Release, there will be AOSP support for it.
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This. The op is confused.
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CalamitySir said:
I know its around the same time every year but Nexus 4 had a bad release date looking that this year I/O didn't release any new Android and the next one we are getting is only 4.3.
If we traced it forward, the next I/O should be around June next year which is already over the date of Google Support. Which means we won't be getting the next version after 4.3 officially but ofc we can still rely on our Devs here for their future builds(big thanks to them!!)
Unless, they are going to have their next major upgrade officially before next year I/O. If not they are just betraying us by telling us to get a new Nexus Device and only upgrading it once and its a minor one too(mainly under the hood stuffs).
Which leads me to think they are using better phones with better sales(fact) to continue their line of Android upgrades because it was badly timed. OK maybe partially due to the hurricane last year and they had to pull it back.
Sent from My Nexus 4 with Vanilla Android! Not those *****y phones who called themselves Google Editions!
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and you ideas are based on your imagination/creativity?
i/o is not when they release new nexus phones, nor is it a set date for android releases.

Leaked Release Date for 4.3

According to this article on Android Police, AT&T is scheduled to officially release 4.3 for the S4 Active on Christmas Eve (12/24). This is just a leaked schedule so take that with a grain of salt, it could be sooner but more than likely it will be later. If you would like to try out a leaked pre-release of 4.3 for the S4 Active you can download it from this thread. Just remember that if you flash the leaked version of 4.3 you probably won't be able to get updates when 4.3 is officially released as has happened in the past.

Devo7v said:
According to this article on Android Police, AT&T is scheduled to officially release 4.3 for the S4 Active on Christmas Eve (12/24). This is just a leaked schedule so take that with a grain of salt, it could be sooner but more than likely it will be later. If you would like to try out a leaked pre-release of 4.3 for the S4 Active you can download it from this thread. Just remember that if you flash the leaked version of 4.3 you probably won't be able to get updates when 4.3 is officially released as has happened in the past.
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Lol 12/24 is 2 months out.... I been sitting on the AOSP thinking I only had to wait till the end of October to get on the official release..... Looks like I will be running the 4.3 leak now.... By the time 4.3 is official on the S4 Active it will be obsolete.... Sweet. Thanks

I'm normally not patient, but 4.3 Doesn't have anything that I have been chomping at the bit for, so I will call it a Christmas Present. Yay!

APeter001 said:
I'm normally not patient, but 4.3 Doesn't have anything that I have been chomping at the bit for, so I will call it a Christmas Present. Yay!
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I'm not seeing anything on 4.3 that makes me want to upgrade either. I would be wary of the official update though because I'm almost positive there are going to be issues rooting it which would cause problems with SafeStrap. If SafeStrap ever gets kexec working I doubt I will ever accept an official update.
I'm not sure where exactly this guy got his information, but his post seems to suggest that taking the new 4.3 update will make rooting exponentially harder.

Devo7v said:
I'm not seeing anything on 4.3 that makes me want to upgrade either. I would be wary of the official update though because I'm almost positive there are going to be issues rooting it which would cause problems with SafeStrap. If SafeStrap ever gets kexec working I doubt I will ever accept an official update.
I'm not sure where exactly this guy got his information, but his post seems to suggest that taking the new 4.3 update will make rooting exponentially harder.
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Yeah I have automatic updates disabled since I rooted the phone and will wait until some other rooted beta tester makes sure it works and doesn't break root.

November 12th is the official release date
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myofrost said:
November 12th is the official release date
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Do you have a link to that? I can't seem to find that date anywhere. The closest thing I've been able to find is that the regular AT&T S4 is getting the 4.3 update on November 13th.

Devo7v said:
Do you have a link to that? I can't seem to find that date anywhere. The closest thing I've been able to find is that the regular AT&T S4 is getting the 4.3 update on November 13th.
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Yep, people are confusing the S4 with the S4 Active again.

Release date
What is the release date?

mnaumanali said:
What is the release date?
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You need to search and read. It's one of the basic principles of XDA and you'll find people saying that over and over.
For example if you start reading this thread from the beginning you might find your answer.

Well not to be an ass, but this thread mentions three different dates. So the question may have been for clarification purposes.
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4.4.3 is last update..??

Will Google ends support for 2 year old nexus 7..??
Can we see next major android version (4.5/5.0) for our grouper..??
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Official will probably stop when the last revision of KitKat is released. However no one really knows but Google. Worst case in a week after 4.5 or 5.0 is released (if those are to be believed) source will be pushed to AOSP and everyone here will be building ROMs.
I mean even my old Kindle Fire (otter) runs Pac-Man 4.4.2...
While my Nexus 5 and 7 (2012 grouper) are both running 4.4.3
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Bit dubious about post-Google updates myself. NVidia has no track record of being friendly to supporting the development community when they aren't forced to. Once Google stops providing binary blob updates, you can bet NVidia will forget that this tablet ever existed and developers will have nothing to work with to support future hardware upgrades.
Either that, or I'm still just a bit bitter over the Tegra 2 G2X.

lotherius said:
Bit dubious about post-Google updates myself. NVidia has no track record of being friendly to supporting the development community when they aren't forced to. Once Google stops providing binary blob updates, you can bet NVidia will forget that this tablet ever existed and developers will have nothing to work with to support future hardware upgrades.
Either that, or I'm still just a bit bitter over the Tegra 2 G2X.
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I hear you there
But I have hope
Our Nexus 7 will prevail through it all!

Maybe then we will have some brave soul working on Nvidia 3.4.35 kernel for tegra3
This can be a good starting point

this is the last update.....

Very likely the last update, though people don't have the same upgrade path for tablets that they do for phones, you won't necessarily change it as regularly.
It's not like your contract is up after 2 years and you get another one.
I'm not planning on getting another tablet any time soon, so longer support would be great, though I doubt it'll happen.
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Nexus 7 never received a useful update anyway.
Every single update made the tablet slower and more buggy.
So it is a good thing not to have updates anymore. Nothing to worry about there.

calyxim said:
Nexus 7 never received a useful update anyway.
Every single update made the tablet slower and more buggy.
So it is a good thing not to have updates anymore. Nothing to worry about there.
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I'd disagree as the 4.3 update was good adding TRIM which sped things up for my Nexus

JoshR8 said:
I'd disagree as the 4.3 update was good adding TRIM which sped things up for my Nexus
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:highfive: 4.3 was a very solid version. When I put my Nexus 4 back in daily driver service for a short while, 4.4 had been out for some time, but I went to 4.3 due to the reliability and smooth feel...

The Nexus 7 is still in production. How can they stop supporting a device still in production?

pharpe said:
The Nexus 7 is still in production. How can they stop supporting a device still in production?
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pharpe said:
The Nexus 7 is still in production. How can they stop supporting a device still in production?
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nexus 7 2013 is in production, not the 2012.

lotherius said:
nexus 7 2013 is in production, not the 2012.
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correct me if I'm wrong but you can still buy it in the Google Play Store
The Nexus 7 2012

USBhost said:
correct me if I'm wrong but you can still buy it in the Google Play Store
The Nexus 7 2012
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You're wrong.

You can still find Nexus 7 2012 for sale... not at Google Play, however.
IMHO - the last KitKat update will be the end of service life for Nexus 7 2012. N7 2013 will get through the L named release.

Looking very much like 4.4.3 will be the last 'official' update, based on the below news...
4.4.3 is running well on my N7, so can't complain too much, plus there are plenty of custom ROMs and mods to play with. Just wonder how this will affect future custom ROMs/ports as they will be created to run with ART and so possibly a no-go... :crying:
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/breaking-next-major-version-of-android-to-finally-remove-dalvik-and-set-art-as-default/

I think we may get the 4.4.4
https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images

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I think we may get the 4.4.4
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We already got 4.4.4, the update is in that link . OTA is just a method to update, and it will come eventually

RusherDude said:
We already got 4.4.4, the update is in that link . OTA is just a method to update, and it will come eventually
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We only had the 4.4.3 only for a few weeks

Android Lollipop

Hello good people. Doesn't anyone know if the TF701 is getting this upgrade?

We can hope so but I've not seen anything official from Asus.

Highly unlikely imo but you never know. We are approaching the 18 month point that marks the end of official support.

sbdags said:
Highly unlikely imo but you never know. We are approaching the 18 month point that marks the end of official support.
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Do we know when the source code for 5.0 is being realeased to aosp?

sbdags said:
Highly unlikely imo but you never know. We are approaching the 18 month point that marks the end of official support.
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But I think we're just coming up on 12 months, no? Wasn't this device released in November of 2013?
But yes, given the way Asus supported my original TF101, I wouldn't hold my breath on them updating it to L....

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But I think we're just coming up on 12 months, no? Wasn't this device released in November of 2013?
But yes, given the way Asus supported my original TF101, I wouldn't hold my breath on them updating it to L....
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September 2013 (I thought it was August but I bought mine in Sep)
So that means soon we will be in month 14.

I feel like Asus abandoned us
I've been holding off putting a third party ROM on my TF701T as Asus had been good about updating other tablets. But I feel like their crappy docking hinge caused lower sales which makes them care very little about this particular product. My guess is we aren't going to see Lollipop officially. Good things there is active development going on.

Hi guys,
is anybody try this ?
(Sorry, i'm new, so I can't post external URL) www .lollipop-roms.org/mp3-0/asus-transformer-pad-tf701t-5493.html
When I saw this rom, I though that was weird nobody talk about it on XDA ...

loloTimmy said:
Hi guys,
is anybody try this ?
(Sorry, i'm new, so I can't post external URL) www .lollipop-roms.org/mp3-0/asus-transformer-pad-tf701t-5493.html
When I saw this rom, I though that was weird nobody talk about it on XDA ...
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He (pershoot) has said it a couple of times in his CM thread that he was going to make a lollipop rom, but it was a while ago, and I assume most people forgot about it or something.
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I asked the people of ASUS and they said there are no plans a.t.m. for an android 5.0 release

Good news, pershoot released an unofficial cm 12 (android 5) port for tf701t yesterday
droidbasement.com/db-blog/?p=3671
I've just installed it via cwm recovery.

While I don't want to raise false hope, I just want to share one special brochure made by ASUS Singapore, indicating that there might be a 5.0 update for the tf701t. http://pricewatch.vr-zone.com/itshow/pricelists/view/ASUS7

Hmm, that's interesting. We can only hope.

We cross fingers
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update
I just got two updates in the last to days. They usually put out updates before they do a major upgrade like lollipop so I take this as a hopeful sign.

m&s said:
I just got two updates in the last to days. They usually put out updates before they do a major upgrade like lollipop so I take this as a hopeful sign.[/
Could you tell us what software version you're on now?
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I guess he means two ASUS app updates. I got them too, think it was Contacts and Browser.

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dape16 said:
I guess he means two ASUS app updates. I got them too, think it was Contacts and Browser.
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No, these weren't just app updates they were system updates. Got to watch the android dude a little bit both times. After the first my background changed after the second the pulldown changed. Still on 4.4.2

While I was in contact with ASUS support I asked about Android L to the TF701T. First they said that they had no info, but later I got a reply, where they said that the had contacted the RD-department and that ASUS have no plans on releasing Android L for the TF701T.
We can onlu hope that this info is incorrect or ASUS change their minds. They havn'nt made any offical statement at all regaring Android L to tablets, have they?

dape16 said:
While I was in contact with ASUS support I asked about Android L to the TF701T. First they said that they had no info, but later I got a reply, where they said that the had contacted the RD-department and that ASUS have no plans on releasing Android L for the TF701T.
We can onlu hope that this info is incorrect or ASUS change their minds. They havn'nt made any offical statement at all regaring Android L to tablets, have they?
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It doesn't surprise me as we are approaching 2 years. ASUS don't really release updates beyond 18 months. All their latest transformers seem to be using Intel chips for Android as well.