Hi guys,
I've got a problem with my droid 4. 2 days ago, the battery went to 0% and i had nothing to plug my phone to. So after 20/30 with the phone at 0%, i plugged it to charge it. After an hour, i looked at my phone again and i saw it was stuck on the 'Motorola dual core technology' logo. I rebooted it and went to safestrap. safestrap was saying 99% of battery so i was like "meh, it's full, i can unplug it". I did so, reboot again and then it went down while loading cyanogen. I tried to replug it, go back to safestrap and reflash the rom. but the phone went off while flashing and from now on, it doesn't start anymore. So yeah, i know, this is kinda normal, no more system fail flash blablabla.
Here is the weird point. When i plug my phone in, there is first a GREEN LED with no light on the screen for a couple of minutes, and then i got stuck again on motorola dual core logo. I can acces the AP fastboot mode but it keep saying "low battery, cannot program" even after a full night plugged in. All others options goes directly to motorola dual core logo and then got stuck (even the recovery option is doing this). I've found many topics about it but i'm not very sure where is the problem coming from.
Can you guys explain more to me about this problem ? how can i fix it ? do i need to go McGyver ?
Several possible problems
1. safestrap often does not report correct battery charge
2. if battery is too low, phone can not run charging software.
3.. if software is corrupt , phone can not charge battery.
Don't use use pc to charge, if you have a 5v 1amp/1000ma wall charge or better use that.
you can use the MacGyver method, but there is a risk of frying the phone and/or battery.
You can buy and external universal charger like this , but you will need to remove battery.
If it's a corrupt software issue, you can reflash with a fastboot/factory cable TBH Factory Cable Adapter, or Fastboot Motorola Factory Cable-ebay
see if you can get back to safestrap with, with power off, hold both volume buttons, press power button, at Boot Mode Selection Menu> Scroll down with volume down button, to BP Tools, Select with Volume UP button, should boot directly to SafeStrap.
see if battery will charge.
sd_shadow said:
Several possible problems
1. safestrap often does not report correct battery charge
2. if battery is too low, phone can not run charging software.
3.. if software is corrupt , phone can not charge battery.
Don't use use pc to charge, if you have a 5v 1amp/1000ma wall charge or better use that.
you can use the MacGyver method, but there is a risk of frying the phone and/or battery.
You can buy and external universal charger like this , but you will need to remove battery.
If it's a corrupt software issue, you can reflash with a fastboot/factory cable TBH Factory Cable Adapter, or Fastboot Motorola Factory Cable-ebay
see if you can get back to safestrap with, with power off, hold both volume buttons, press power button, at Boot Mode Selection Menu> Scroll down with volume down button, to BP Tools, Select with Volume UP button, should boot directly to SafeStrap.
see if battery will charge.
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Thanks for your reply.
Here is some more informations i might have forgot in my first message (or maybe it wasnt clear).
1) Batttery is too low, and it can't run the program to reflash a motorola ROM. This is 100% sure.
2) Software might be corrupt since it first went blackout when flashing. I need to reflash, but back to #1 i can't flash since no battery.
3) I tried to recharge it with a 5V/2A asus tablet charger, and even after a couple of hours, no ****.
4) i can remove the battery. I have already done it. No problem.
5) i can't get back to safestrap : every time i choose an option other than "AP fastboot" i got stuck on the motorola dual core boot image.
rubixcube said:
Thanks for your reply.
Here is some more informations i might have forgot in my first message (or maybe it wasnt clear).
1) Batttery is too low, and it can't run the program to reflash a motorola ROM. This is 100% sure.
2) Software might be corrupt since it first went blackout when flashing. I need to reflash, but back to #1 i can't flash since no battery.
3) I tried to recharge it with a 5V/2A asus tablet charger, and even after a couple of hours, no ****.
4) i can remove the battery. I have already done it. No problem.
5) i can't get back to safestrap : every time i choose an option other than "AP fastboot" i got stuck on the motorola dual core boot image.
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I would use a TBH adapter/fastboot cable to flash firmware, or use a universal external battery charger.
sd_shadow said:
I would use a TBH adapter/fastboot cable to flash firmware, or use a universal external battery charger.
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And what if i buy another battery ? like for example and extended battery from mugen power, usually those batteries come with 50% of charge, and this could be enough to flash no ?
An extended battery should have enough charge to boot to safestrap or flash firmware.
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thanks for your answers
im now flashing with McGyver !
Yay its working again !
Solucion
yo lo solucione cargando mi pila manualmente y flaseando por RSD lite ,pero se me quedo el modo fastboot como arranque inicial algien sabe como quitar eso?
Spanish? "I troubleshoot loading my stack and flaseando manually by RSD lite ,but i was the fastboot mode as initial start someone knows how to remove that?"
So you Flashed a xml/firmware file with red lite?
Which one? Which ap fastboot version is on phone?
It's stuck in ap fast boot? Any errors?
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Well i got some more work for you sd_shadow, even if it doesnt really have nothing to do with flashing.
It appears that the connectors of my battery were completely dead. I bought a new one. I just put in it and reflashed all the stuff. Looks like it works but ... I have problems getting an image on the screen of my phone !! Is it a problem with flash, a hardware problem ? a problem with battery ?
EDIT : just found it is a bad contact. Got to deal with it i guess ... but any hints to repair it are welome !
to be more accurate, the screen doesnt show anything when the phone is closed but works perfectly fine when open ... this is driving me crazy.
Could be a bad flex ribbon cable
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Could be a bad flex ribbon cable
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I suppose this it. What is the solution, changing the whole screen ?
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I suppose this it. What is the solution, changing the whole screen ?
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You might want to read this thread on the defective screen: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2552978 although it does not show a solution for it (yet).
the flex cable can be replaced, and is likely problem, when it only works when the keyboard is in a specific position.
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Original OEM Motorola Droid 4 XT894 Main LCD Flex Cable Ribbon
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Droid 4 take apart
sd_shadow, i request your help !
So, this morning, i finally had the new flex cable and the T3 corkscrew, so i started to open up my phone to change this damn flex cable.
And if i am posting now, it is because i am stuck. After i got the back of the screen off, i started to take up my actual flex cable.
Here are my questions.
Do i need to heat the screen and take it off to take the flex cable off ?
How do i manage to change the cable where it is connected to the screen ? (Look at the 2 pictures i have uploaded).
I hope to have an answer quick. And i hope i can fix it.
Did you watch the video? http://www.repairsuniverse.com/motorola-droid-4-take-apart-repair-guide.html
it's for replacing the LCD, but shows most of the flex cable take apart.
only need to heat when replacing the LCD.
sd_shadow said:
Did you watch the video? http://www.repairsuniverse.com/motorola-droid-4-take-apart-repair-guide.html
it's for replacing the LCD, but shows most of the flex cable take apart.
only need to heat when replacing the LCD.
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Yeah i have already watched it but i don't know what to do to with the part of the flex cable that connects to the screen cable.
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I was flashing the latest iceandfire rom, did a reboot and the Moto logo came up but it never booted. Holding the power button didn't do anything so I pulled the battery. Now there's nothing. The LCD never comes on, can't get into recovery or boot loader. No charging light, nothing...
This has happened to me before and I had it sent back to Motorola. They were able to reflash the phone, I know because I got the same phone back. How they managed to flash it without it powering up is a mystery to me but I know it's possible. Has anyone managed to do this? I would send it back to Moto again but this time, it's out of warranty.
Did you charge with USB cable? I had this once where USB charge completely failed. I just had to use my car charger and that fired the phone back up.
I had this happen to me also...use a Motorola brand (no copies) wall or car charger and leave it plugged in. My MS does this when it gets really close to 0% charged...
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I don't think the battery is dead, it was full and I was plugged in while I did the flash. The charge light flicks on and then goes out when I plug any cable in but I'll give it a shot with the moto charger when I get home.
yeah, the phone's bricked... using all factory chargers and cables, it still doesn't power up.
I give up... tried all night to get it to the boot loader. I guess I'll be selling this thing for parts and use this iphone4 I got through Fido retentions until I figure out my next phone
Before you throw it away:
Try getting another (full) battery or another Milestone (to charge it), or something like this: (I am not allowed to post a link, so google: UNIVERSAL BATTERY CHARGER, select the first video in results).... charge it, then re-insert the battery and try to power on device holding d-pad UP + pressing power button.... it should bring you to bootloader mode, then connect usb cable and use RSDLITE to flash the appropriate SBF for your device and region..... and for ROMS (SBFs) google: milestone sbf, select the first link in results.... hope it helped... cheers....
Does the "McGiver" jumpstart thing using a usb cable with the device end cut and keeping some of the wires connected to the device in the battery compartment work on Milestone? I know a friend that could "unbrick" his Defy using this method....
Do you have a link? I remember reading this somewhere as well. It's worth a shot, not like the thing can be more dead. I still don't think it's the battery tho, it was full when I performed the flash.
Nevermind.... I found it, it didn't work... lol... oh well..
Sometimes the batteries memory will glitch
Not the battery, it was full when I did the flash and I tried jumping the battery terminals with a USB cable. It was good while it lasted but I already picked up a BNIB Captivate for $300 off Craigslist.
Anyone know what a Milestone sold for parts would be worth? It's about a year old and I would say the condition is 8.5-9.0/10
baoli said:
Not the battery, it was full when I did the flash and I tried jumping the battery terminals with a USB cable. It was good while it lasted but I already picked up a BNIB Captivate for $300 off Craigslist.
Anyone know what a Milestone sold for parts would be worth? It's about a year old and I would say the condition is 8.5-9.0/10
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Before you sell it, take out the battery, SIM card and memory card, then leave it for AT LEAST 5 days. Then try again.
I have a similar problem with my milestone, at first I thought it was dead, then after a week I tried again (just on the off chance) and was able to get into the bootloader menu and reflash it.
There is something inside the Milestone that holds charge for several days, and pulling the battery for at least 5 days seems to clear it. This has happened 3 times with mine, and each time I was able to get it started again.
This may not work for you, it depends on exactly whats wrong with yours, but its worth a try.
there is a post from a guy looking for the motherboard... u might want to see that... sorry for ur device
Hey all,
I got my Droid 4 a month ago and rooted it. It ran out of power while I was outside. When I tried charging it, a battery icon with a question mark comes up. I can't boot to Safestrap, and when I go to Fastboot, it says "Battery Low -- Cannot Program".
The phone doesn't turn on unless I plug it into the wall charger. If I plug it into the USB port on my laptop, the green LED comes on, but it won't turn on. I can boot to Android recovery, and I tried formatting /data and /cache, but that didn't help.
Funny thing: I can keep the phone in Android recovery, leave it plugged in, and it charges up enough to stay on for a while when I unplug it.
Now, I know about the Macgyver trick, and I'd like to give that a shot. iFixit has a fantastic teardown of the Droid 4, but unfortunately, removing the battery would very clearly void my warranty (although I guess having Safestrap voids that already), and I'm worried about doing permanent damage to my device. Are there any solutions besides "beg Verizon for a new phone"? Has anyone tried Macgyvering a Droid 4?
Curious, if you do BP Tools, does it drop you into Safestrap? I know mine does, and then maybe you can change some settings. Also, you could try to make a "Factory Cable". I know I made mine from my old OG Droid dock as it had the 5 wire jumper, and just jumped the 2 wires and it allowed me to flash w/o a charged battery.
I would ensure that the charger is putting out 5.1v and 850mA as my d4 won't charge or power on after the battery dies unless its with the factory charger or one that meets these specs
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Soulmech said:
Funny thing: I can keep the phone in Android recovery, leave it plugged in, and it charges up enough to stay on for a while when I unplug it.
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Have you tried leaving it plugged in for an extended period of time, say overnight, and see if it'll boot up?
gdeeble said:
Curious, if you do BP Tools, does it drop you into Safestrap? I know mine does, and then maybe you can change some settings. Also, you could try to make a "Factory Cable". I know I made mine from my old OG Droid dock as it had the 5 wire jumper, and just jumped the 2 wires and it allowed me to flash w/o a charged battery.
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Just tried BP Tools. It lets me drop into Safestrap, but Safestrap won't load due to the battery issue.
Hope you don't mind me asking, but what's a factory cable? Is it just a USB cable with the B end cut off, and the black and red wires stripped? My issue with jumping the device/battery is that I'm unable (or supposed to be unable) to remove the battery, so any solution along those lines would have to allow me to keep the battery in place. Otherwise, my warranty is voided.
I know root voids it, but I'd have a better chance of sneaking that by than an obviously-moved battery.
dbreezy187 said:
I would ensure that the charger is putting out 5.1v and 850mA as my d4 won't charge or power on after the battery dies unless its with the factory charger or one that meets these specs
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I'm using the charger that came with the phone. It says 5.1V/850mA on the side.
bdbraaten said:
Have you tried leaving it plugged in for an extended period of time, say overnight, and see if it'll boot up?
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Tried it last night. Left it in recovery for a good 8 hours or so. No dice.
Did you try opening it, then removing the battery? If you pull up too hard with out a removal tool, the glue is strong enough to allow the battery to bend and break internally, causing this error. Might check if another battery works, there are some available online if you search.
nequeelrey said:
Did you try opening it, then removing the battery? If you pull up too hard with out a removal tool, the glue is strong enough to allow the battery to bend and break internally, causing this error. Might check if another battery works, there are some available online if you search.
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Isn't the reason the battery is non-removable because the type of battery chemistry used can explode of that type of damage occurs? Or do they just hate us?
Has anybody ever been turned down for warranty work that is hardware related, even if they are rooted, etc? I've never heard of it happening...
If OP get a dud battery, s/he should just get it replaced by Moto. They shouldn't have to try to replace it themselves.
Try the instructions from this thread and let us know if it works...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=23678683&postcount=1
The OP said they tried the BP Tools method but it is disabled due to Safe strap using that as the trigger for its bootstrapped recovery.
Using a factory cable would allow you to boot the phone and either flash the stock firmware or uninstall Safe strap and let you charge the phone while in BP Tools mode.
That is the only safe a certain way to recover the device. Hot wiring the battery with a USB cable cannot be considered safe, but will work if you want to fix it yourself without a factory cable.
Using a factory cable to flash the full XML.zip with RSD Lite is the first thing a technician would do to restore it if it was returned under warranty anyway, after checking for physical damage of course.
I've got a few factory cables laying around and would be more than happy to send you one, let me know. Just cover the postage and you'll be flashing in no time.
So to update: I have an insurance policy with Global Warranty Group, and I filed a claim with them, which got me a new device (instead of a refurb). So, I suppose the issue is moot.
Rick#2 said:
I've got a few factory cables laying around and would be more than happy to send you one, let me know. Just cover the postage and you'll be flashing in no time.
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I would be grateful if you could send me one. I will PM you to figure out details on paying you for postage.
The same thing is happening to me and I have Droid X, any help?
Will BP work after removing safestrap from the advanced menu? If so I think you could use that link to charge from BP.
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usb cable splice works
Just chiming in here to confirm a spliced usb cable will charge an xt894 battery. my situation was pretty much an xt894 with a wiped system (therefore, unable to charge) and not enough battery to fastboot. if I plugged it into a charger or a 5v usb slot from my computer just a green led would show on the front, but no charge. I removed my battery, cut a usb cable in half, and hooked up the wires to the coresponding terminals on the battery (which are clearly marked) and it charged up just fine and I was able to fastboot.
Not the prettiest solution, but it really helped me out when I absolutely needed to charge in order to fastboot, although it will void your warranty if that's important to you.
I currently have a problem where the question mark shows in the battery while charging and I'm unable to boot into OS or safestrap. I'm not at home right now, but I have an extra battery that I'll pop in later to see if that changes anything, or has enough juice to fastboot.
This morning my wife woke up to no battery charge, because I stole her charger in the night. But she has the question mark even though the phone was working fine last night! I wonder, considering I left the USB cord plugged in on the D4 end when I took the charger (to use my cord) could I have screwed something up? She's going to leave it in the OEM charger all day at work, but the quesiton mark worries me.
My question is, if I do the cut cord trick to manually charge the battery at the terminals, does that help recover it so that it can be charged via regular means? Or is it just a way to get the data off the phone? Phone is stock 4.1 with root.
Pl can anyone help me.....
I was on stock ICS and then i flashed Cm 10.1 Android 4.2.1 Unofficial rom which got stuck at boot loop for 5 hours...
Now my whole battery is down The phone is niether booting up nor going to Fastboot....
When i connect my wall charger to phone it goes to Fastboot and something like this appears :-
AP Fastboot Flash Mode (S) (Flash Failure)
0/OA.72
Battery Low
Cannot Program
Connect USB
Data Cable
On pressing VOL UP + VOL DOWN and inserting the charger it goes to Boot Selection Menu
BUT none of them work
1. On normal powerup it hangs on Motorola logo
2. On recovery it hangs on Motorola logo
3. Rest of the options don't work.........
I tried to charge the battery through "cut a cable" method but it didnt quite work......
CAN ANYONE PLEASE HELP ME BY TELLING WHAT CAN I DO?????????
shubhkirti1997 said:
Pl can anyone help me.....
I was on stock ICS and then i flashed Cm 10.1 Android 4.2.1 Unofficial rom which got stuck at boot loop for 5 hours...
Now my whole battery is down The phone is niether booting up nor going to Fastboot....
When i connect my wall charger to phone it goes to Fastboot and something like this appears :-
AP Fastboot Flash Mode (S) (Flash Failure)
0/OA.72
Battery Low
Cannot Program
Connect USB
Data Cable
On pressing VOL UP + VOL DOWN and inserting the charger it goes to Boot Selection Menu
BUT none of them work
1. On normal powerup it hangs on Motorola logo
2. On recovery it hangs on Motorola logo
3. Rest of the options don't work.........
I tried to charge the battery through "cut a cable" method but it didnt quite work......
CAN ANYONE PLEASE HELP ME BY TELLING WHAT CAN I DO?????????
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Hi,
My best guess is that the battery died while you tried to do an FXZ recovery. If that was the case, I think I found a possible fix. Still there are a few other things to be weary of:
Did you:
Try to FXZ to anything other than 246 coming from 246?
Try to upgrade the stock ROM from 905 (GB) to 246 (ICS) without first FXZing to 905?
Try to upgrade to 246 from 905 or anything before 235 by using the 246 FXZ?
Any of those could have bricked your device. Keep in mind not to do those things as you read through this possible fix.
A little disclaimer: This idea is my best guess for how to fix your problem, but I take no responsibility if it breaks something or causes a problem. Please only proceed if you've FXZed your phone before and understand what I'm talking about... If you've been on an ICS Leak after 232 or on the ICS OTA, NEVER flash the 905 FXZ! If you haven't been on the ICS OTA or a Leak after 232 DO NOT flash the 246 FXZ! These instructions will most likely wipe your phone's internal storage/"SD card".
I suggest following this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1549625 ( It's for the Droid RAZR so I'm not sure it will work, but the phones are very similar, so I'd try it. ) Stop at this point:
After a good charge up to 50% or so download the program called
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I strongly suggest that you let it charge to 100% first. Then, if you were at one point successfully on 235-246, flash the 246 FXZ ( Found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1952040 ), if you never flashed anything post-232 flash the 905 FXZ ( Found here: https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B26Hj6_2TMNTZ256eV9QbWpBSTQ from this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1771993 ). BE CAREFUL HERE! Let it finish completely.
This should return your phone to stock. Upgrade to 246 if you used the 905 FXZ and you should be all set. I'll leave rooting to you. Also make sure that if you try to flash Hashcode's 4.2.1 JB you do so in Safestrap 3.05 or higher ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1391875 ) and do so in ROM-Slot 1 or you'll have issues ( Looks like he had to make a work-around to get it to boot that requires it to be in ROM-Slot 1 ). Do not flash his 4.2.1 ROM without Safestrap.
Let us know how it goes, and remember to thank vel0city for that post if it works ( I'd appreciate a thanks too though, ).
Good luck, I hope this fixes it,
jedi453
I'm not sure the battery will charge while bricked (could be wrong) . When that happens you need one of the factory cables that will power the phone regardless.
Can also get a charge from somebody else with a bionic.
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Drunkula said:
I'm not sure the battery will charge while bricked (could be wrong) .
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As far as I can tell you're right Drunkula, normally a special cable would be required to charge the phone, or as you suggest charging the battery separately of the broken phone. The thread I linked to however ( by vel0city, here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1549625 ) is a manual work-around to bypass the requirement for a special cable. Although that thread refers to the RAZR, I would imagine the same could be true of the Bionic.
I had the same problem i went to a battery store and bought an external batter charger (a little clip) and everything was great
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Buy a factory cable or factory cable adapter from team black hat. It works just fine. You will be able to fast boot the phone back to stock
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shubhkirti1997 said:
Pl can anyone help me.....
I was on stock ICS and then i flashed Cm 10.1 Android 4.2.1 Unofficial rom which got stuck at boot loop for 5 hours...
Now my whole battery is down The phone is niether booting up nor going to Fastboot....
When i connect my wall charger to phone it goes to Fastboot and something like this appears :-
AP Fastboot Flash Mode (S) (Flash Failure)
0/OA.72
Battery Low
Cannot Program
Connect USB
Data Cable
On pressing VOL UP + VOL DOWN and inserting the charger it goes to Boot Selection Menu
BUT none of them work
1. On normal powerup it hangs on Motorola logo
2. On recovery it hangs on Motorola logo
3. Rest of the options don't work.........
I tried to charge the battery through "cut a cable" method but it didnt quite work......
CAN ANYONE PLEASE HELP ME BY TELLING WHAT CAN I DO?????????
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heres what you do OP.
find an old USB charging cable. splice it open until you see two wires. spice those wires (red and black i believe)
open your case and put the leads of each wire against the terminals where the battery goes
match RED with the + icon on the battery and the BLACK with the - icon
you need to be patient it takes a few times before you get the leads touching correctly while inserting the battery.
then simply plug it into USB and boot into fastboot. you will see BATTERY OK.
from there you must flash whatever firmware to get the phone back to stock.
i've done what you've done before, trying to flash flash flash and then the battery dies and u cant even boot past moto logo.
seems as though the black fastbook/flash screen eats battery life
this works and its very simple!!! good luck!
Be Careful About Physical Modifications!
paradoxed said:
heres what you do OP.
find an old USB charging cable. splice it open until you see two wires. spice those wires (red and black i believe)
open your case and put the leads of each wire against the terminals where the battery goes
match RED with the + icon on the battery and the BLACK with the - icon
you need to be patient it takes a few times before you get the leads touching correctly while inserting the battery.
then simply plug it into USB and boot into fastboot. you will see BATTERY OK.
from there you must flash whatever firmware to get the phone back to stock.
i've done what you've done before, trying to flash flash flash and then the battery dies and u cant even boot past moto logo.
seems as though the black fastbook/flash screen eats battery life
this works and its very simple!!! good luck!
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I would not recommend this option. While it may work, it's very possible that it may damage your phone. For those that disagree or don't understand why I would say this, my reasoning is that USB provides 5 Volts at usually up to 500 mA standard, while a battery would provide at max 3.7 Volts at a higher current. This is simultaneously giving the phone too high a voltage ( BAD, can cause permanent hardware damage! ) and possibly not providing enough current ( The flash could fail, and you'll be stuck again ). There is also the possibility of shorting ( inadvertently connecting ) two pins/terminals/connections in the phone with the wire from the USB cable.
In short: I strongly suggest not directly connection a USB cable to the phones battery terminals.
I apologize to paradoxed for the blunt response, but the inherent risks outweigh the possible benefits. ( Note to shubhkirti1997: it sounds like your phone is "soft-bricked" which in my understanding means the software is not working correctly ( So it may be possible to fix it without gutting it ), attempting to interface a USB cable with the battery connectors may make it "hard-bricked", as in the Hardware is broken, and no amount of flashing or software modding/fixing will fix a hard-bricked phone.
Good luck shubhkirti1997, but be weary of any possible solution that involves physically modding your phone until you're sure that there are no good alternatives.
jedi453
jedi453 said:
I would not recommend this option. While it may work, it's very possible that it may damage your phone. For those that disagree or don't understand why I would say this, my reasoning is that USB provides 5 Volts at usually up to 500 mA standard, while a battery would provide at max 3.7 Volts at a higher current. This is simultaneously giving the phone too high a voltage ( BAD, can cause permanent hardware damage! ) and possibly not providing enough current ( The flash could fail, and you'll be stuck again ). There is also the possibility of shorting ( inadvertently connecting ) two pins/terminals/connections in the phone with the wire from the USB cable.
In short: I strongly suggest not directly connection a USB cable to the phones battery terminals.
I apologize to paradoxed for the blunt response, but the inherent risks outweigh the possible benefits. ( Note to shubhkirti1997: it sounds like your phone is "soft-bricked" which in my understanding means the software is not working correctly ( So it may be possible to fix it without gutting it ), attempting to interface a USB cable with the battery connectors may make it "hard-bricked", as in the Hardware is broken, and no amount of flashing or software modding/fixing will fix a hard-bricked phone.
Good luck shubhkirti1997, but be weary of any possible solution that involves physically modding your phone until you're sure that there are no good alternatives.
jedi453
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^^^ This. For people who have a good head for electronic devices, this would be an easy task - but for someone not well versed in electronics, this could be disastrous. A single misplacement of the wires when inserting the battery could damage either battery or phone or both permanently.
jedi's advice is sound - charge the battery externally (I bought my BIONIC from CostCo, they provided an extra battery and an external battery charger) using an external battery charger, or borrow a friend's battery, or buy an extended battery (should come with 50% charge, which is around 65-70% capacity of the stock battery).
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And you could always just get the Factory Adapter and never have to worry about a flashing/power issue again...just sayin'.
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And you could always just get the Factory Adapter and never have to worry about a flashing/power issue again...just sayin'.
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Heyas, cz, ltns....
Yeah, it was mentioned in a previous post in the thread to do that. Speaking of which, I need to order the adapter, if they're back in stock
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I really try very hard to respect the rules on XDA and don't make self promotional posts for TBH, but it's hard sometimes not to especially in view of the litany of items you suggested there. You can purchase a $10 Factory Adapter and never be concerned about the issue ever again for any Motorola device regardless if it has a removeable or non removeable battery or no battery at all!
And we will never be out of stock again...trust me!
Lol, I wasn't even thinking about it from the perspective of self promotion. I just knew an earlier post had suggested getting the Factory Cable already.
Until you mentioned it, I had forgotten that you guys had made the adapter too. Going to buy one *right now*.
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Please help on my droid bionic
All, please help !!!!
I bought a droid bionic on ebay (seller didn't mention that the software is corrupted) now tired to install ICS using RSD 5.7, it installed correctly, but the phone boots up and gets stuck on the "Droid" screen. Nothing happens from there. I can go to AP boot and/or recovery but can't do anything about it. Please help !!!! Searched the web for two days but no solution. I loaded the following file with RSD, downloaded from different site and tried atleast 5 times.
VRZ_XT875_6.7.246.XT875.Verizon.en.US_CFC_01.xml.zip
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All, please help !!!!
I bought a droid bionic on ebay (seller didn't mention that the software is corrupted) now tired to install ICS using RSD 5.7, it installed correctly, but the phone boots up and gets stuck on the "Droid" screen. Nothing happens from there. I can go to AP boot and/or recovery but can't do anything about it. Please help !!!! Searched the web for two days but no solution. I loaded the following file with RSD, downloaded from different site and tried atleast 5 times.
VRZ_XT875_6.7.246.XT875.Verizon.en.US_CFC_01.xml.zip
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Try to factory reset the phone, you can do that by booting in recovery mode.
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Got my bionic repaired
ok guyz i after all restored my droid bionic back to its state..........
WHAT I DID
i took a red neck USB charger and charged my battery for about 1 hour it it got booted up
then i flashed ics using RSD lite 5.7
NOW ITS WORKING FINE THANX EVERYONE FOR YOUR HELP
I know that this thread is pretty old, but my question lies with my droid bionic being hard brick. What I read from the OP wasn't a hard brick and appeared only to be a soft brick. My issue is that I accidentally flash the wrong firmware into my phone following a post about turning the droid bionic into a global phone that I could use any sim with from any network. it was working properly but had some issues with the data network. back to the topic. I flashed the firmware using rsd but since it was the wrong one my system crash and no longer boots at all, the battery at the time was almost 100% so i know it wasn't because of the battery. I even made sure that I check with a battery charger I bought for like 5 bucks. My question is, is it possible to un hard brick the phone and restore it back to working again? I read around about using the JTag method but couldn't find too much detail about the subject. and each article relating to hard brick phones were specific only to that phone. I've search all over XDA to find out if there are any threads concerning this issue and even posted my own in hopes of finding a solution to this issue.
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Opened bike race when the screen froze while opening the game (dark screen).
Pulled the battery but when I boot the screen goes on after 3 secs, stays on for 2 secs then goes into dim mode (i can see it's still on).
However my phone doesn't boot since I don't get any whatsapp messages. Normally it should boot to SIM screen but other apps should run.
X+power or M+power doesn't change much.
I'm guessing mobo/cpu fail.... any ideas?
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edit: It turns on when I put in the charger without battery! Dead battery?
If you put the battery flat on a table does in spin well. Batteries bulge when they are done. The better the spin the worse it is. It's odd the behaviour that can happen with a end of life battery
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Well now I'm not so sure what it is.
When I put the cable in without battery the M logo appeared and then the charge screen with a ? in the battery (because there was none)
Then I put the battery in and it started charging.
After a while I tried to turn it on but same problem - just a black screen when power it, no logo whatsoever.
Now I can't get it to work without battery either...
edit: I don't think it can be the battery, because the screen stays on (it has power apparently) and it doens't work with cable connected either
But I also don't see it being the screen as it never vibrates like it does when you boot it.
How did it just show the charge screen before and now it doesn't??
I made a vid of what happens when I power it:
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/22072961/Droid 3/Video0067.mp4
The Droid 3 and Bionic are similar phones, and it turns out that the Bionic will not boot up without a battery - it will hang at the Moto logo even if plugged in. See this thread at androidforums.com: http://androidforums.com/motorola-d...via-adb-unable-boot-up-phone.html#post5463741
So, it may be that you just need a good battery pack in order to get to Recovery/Bootloader/Fastboot etc. if the phone will not start or start to Safestrap.
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The Droid 3 and Bionic are similar phones, and it turns out that the Bionic will not boot up without a battery - it will hang at the Moto logo even if plugged in. See this thread at androidforums.com: http://androidforums.com/motorola-d...via-adb-unable-boot-up-phone.html#post5463741
So, it may be that you just need a good battery pack in order to get to Recovery/Bootloader/Fastboot etc. if the phone will not start or start to Safestrap.
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Ye, except my phone doesn't even show the motorola logo, and I can't even get to the bootloader menu
edit: and it doesn't explain why I was able to get to the charge screen without battery at first, but not now
Right now I'm having the same problem, I could enter safetrap for now (after 10 attempts)
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Right now I'm having the same problem, I could enter safetrap for now (after 10 attempts)
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:crying:
I tried at least 30x now no difference
The worst part is using my Samsung Jet "Smarter than a smartphone". Which isn't even close to a smartphone because it doesn't have any of the OSes = no apps
In my XT860 in its power when it reaches the lockscreen, restarts or shuts.
When I put it to charge my battery shows 0% and charging. When I go to Safestrap-after several attempts-, battery shows 99% or sometimes 80%.
I think the cpu wants to leave the world of technology :crying:
edit: yeah, now i get infinite bootloops in the M DualCore LOL
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In my XT860 in its power when it reaches the lockscreen, restarts or shuts.
When I put it to charge my battery shows 0% and charging. When I go to Safestrap-after several attempts-, battery shows 99% or sometimes 80%.
I think the cpu wants to leave the world of technology :crying:
edit: yeah, now i get infinite bootloops in the M DualCore LOL
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Well at least yours sounds like a software issue. Just wipe
No, I can not turn it on, I can not enter bptools, I can not use RSD, nothing! Just lucky I managed to get a few seconds to safestrap
hi Doubleyp
try to see if it starts with a factory cable (like the Team black hat one) (no need for battery)
if it starts then its the battery
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hi Doubleyp
try to see if it starts with a factory cable (like the Team black hat one) (no need for battery)
if it starts then its the battery
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I tried the stock cable that came with my phone (USB) but nothing happens. Screen doesn't even go on.
The light next to the microUSB does go on.
But my phone has never booted with USB (0.5A). When my battery was 0% I always needed a socket charger because it wouldn't go on and charge with USB
When I then insert battery and try again with stock cable same happens as in the video
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I tried the stock cable that came with my phone (USB) but nothing happens. Screen doesn't even go on.
The light next to the microUSB does go on.
But my phone has never booted with USB (0.5A). When my battery was 0% I always needed a socket charger because it wouldn't go on and charge with USB
When I then insert battery and try again with stock cable same happens as in the video
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The stock cable and a factory programming cable are not the same
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Endoroid said:
The stock cable and a factory programming cable are not the same
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Ah I see. Well I'm not in the US so getting one would be a PITA
I'm gonna try my spare battery (original battery) tomorrow. It that doesn't work it must be hardware related because I haven't flashed or done anything to it so it's not softbricked or something.
edit: it team blackhat do send to europe? How would this be different from trying another (working) battery?
Try cutting a USB cable open, hook the red wire to the + of the battery and - to the black and let it charge that way. Also, do you have any MicroUSB charger? I have one for a BB Bold I used to have that delivers I think 1.25A and it could charge my phone from dead (obviously not now with the flex cable having a rip in it).
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I tried the stock cable that came with my phone (USB) but nothing happens. Screen doesn't even go on.
The light next to the microUSB does go on.
But my phone has never booted with USB (0.5A). When my battery was 0% I always needed a socket charger because it wouldn't go on and charge with USB
When I then insert battery and try again with stock cable same happens as in the video
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The little light next to the USB port is the 'It's still alive" light that Moto put in when the battery is completely dead. It's to let you know that the phone *is* charging, just not high enough to boot the phone (i.e. when you let the battery completely die).
WHY they did not make it a standard charging light (like the D1 and D2) I don't know, but that's the only time it comes on. A quick flicker on USB plugin, or when the battery is dead. The light goes out when it gets enough power to boot up.
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The little light next to the USB port is the 'It's still alive" light that Moto put in when the battery is completely dead. It's to let you know that the phone *is* charging, just not high enough to boot the phone (i.e. when you let the battery completely die).
WHY they did not make it a standard charging light (like the D1 and D2) I don't know, but that's the only time it comes on. A quick flicker on USB plugin, or when the battery is dead. The light goes out when it gets enough power to boot up.
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Well, it's not charging because there's no battery , the light it still on
I really dont see how its the battery because when I put it in without cable the screen turns on and stays on for as long as I keep the battery in. So it HAS power. Today I'm getting my spare battery and we'll see I guess..... don't have my hopes up
My daughters D3 was doing the same thing,me being not ready to dig into a phone yet ,took to a local repair shop, they checked it out and found it had a bad LCD,should get back Friday, sorry for the bad news,just thought you would like some insight.
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Buckaru11 said:
My daughters D3 was doing the same thing,me being not ready to dig into a phone yet ,took to a local repair shop, they checked it out and found it had a bad LCD,should get back Friday, sorry for the bad news,just thought you would like some insight.
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Thanks. But should it turn on when the LCD is bad? It doesn't even boot else It would vibrate once.
Can anyone confirm that the phone should boot when I remove the LCD alltogether? Else it might be a bad LCD or loose connector
A coworker decided to replace the non-user-replaceable battery in his Droid 4 (it's actually pretty simple to do). The surgery seemed to go fine, but immediately afterwards the phone is basically acting as if it doesn't have a battery in it:
'M' logo comes up when plugged in
Holding VOL UP/DN+PWR allows access to the boot menu, but none of those options allow it to boot past the 'M' logo
No response from power button when not plugged in
Immediately powers off when power cable disconnected
I read that a factory data cable might help him, so we ordered one of those. This cable allows the phone to boot now (furthering the suspicion that it doesn't think there's a battery in it - the factory cable is supposed to allow this, and there's just an exclamation point for the battery status), but isn't much help otherwise as data can't be transferred from it. Point being, it's not a software brick - it boots fine with the factory cable.
Could this just be a bad battery or something? Has anybody here ever seen this behavior?
Thanks!
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A coworker decided to replace the non-user-replaceable battery in his Droid 4 (it's actually pretty simple to do). The surgery seemed to go fine, but immediately afterwards the phone is basically acting as if it doesn't have a battery in it:
'M' logo comes up when plugged in
Holding VOL UP/DN+PWR allows access to the boot menu, but none of those options allow it to boot past the 'M' logo
No response from power button when not plugged in
Immediately powers off when power cable disconnected
I read that a factory data cable might help him, so we ordered one of those. This cable allows the phone to boot now (furthering the suspicion that it doesn't think there's a battery in it - the factory cable is supposed to allow this, and there's just an exclamation point for the battery status), but isn't much help otherwise as data can't be transferred from it. Point being, it's not a software brick - it boots fine with the factory cable.
Could this just be a bad battery or something? Has anybody here ever seen this behavior?
Thanks!
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Hi,
It might be a loose connection. Did you make sure that the screws were fastened properly? Also check the battery contacts on the phone and the battery, clean it if necessary.
Are you sure that you didn't bend the battery ribbon cable? It is pretty sensitive, can be damaged by bending.
I'm pretty sure that the phone is OK, it's a battery connection problem.
aftli said:
A coworker decided to replace the non-user-replaceable battery in his Droid 4 (it's actually pretty simple to do). The surgery seemed to go fine, but immediately afterwards the phone is basically acting as if it doesn't have a battery in it:
'M' logo comes up when plugged in
Holding VOL UP/DN+PWR allows access to the boot menu, but none of those options allow it to boot past the 'M' logo
No response from power button when not plugged in
Immediately powers off when power cable disconnected
I read that a factory data cable might help him, so we ordered one of those. This cable allows the phone to boot now (furthering the suspicion that it doesn't think there's a battery in it - the factory cable is supposed to allow this, and there's just an exclamation point for the battery status), but isn't much help otherwise as data can't be transferred from it. Point being, it's not a software brick - it boots fine with the factory cable.
Could this just be a bad battery or something? Has anybody here ever seen this behavior?
Thanks!
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This is screaming bad battery to me - either it was duff in the first place, or has been damaged during installation. Having said that, I've swapped lots of batteries multiple times, and have never damaged one during removal or installation, so if they were careful I suspect it was bad in the first place.
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Hi,
It might be a loose connection. Did you make sure that the screws were fastened properly? Also check the battery contacts on the phone and the battery, clean it if necessary.
Are you sure that you didn't bend the battery ribbon cable? It is pretty sensitive, can be damaged by bending.
I'm pretty sure that the phone is OK, it's a battery connection problem.
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Thanks for your input guys.
He's ordered a new battery and I'll be the one installing it this time. Will update when we get it in.