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ok i called verizon today and told them i did not get my replacement droid 3 they put it on the lost and stolen list and told me they had no more droid 3s and they upgraded me to the samsung galaxy nexus 4g and i also get to keep my unlimited internet but as i will not have a droid 3 no more i will not be on this part of the fourm that much but i will still come see how every thing is going from time to time i will miss you guys and you have made my stay here very good and i wont to thank every one of you guys and all of the developers on the fourm who has made my droid 3 the best phone that i ever had and more i hope the galaxy nexus forms on xda is just as awesome.
Can anyone else confirm that Verizon is upgrading people replacing Droid 3s? Mine is breaking and I have insurance but I didn't want to pay the deductible for another d3. If they are upgrading people to the galaxy nexus I'd be all over it.
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MadderThanMad said:
Can anyone else confirm that Verizon is upgrading people replacing Droid 3s? Mine is breaking and I have insurance but I didn't want to pay the bills deductible for another d3. If they are upgrading people to the galaxy nexus I'd be all over it.
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They are out of droid 3s right now just call them up for them to send you a replacement and they are out of droid 3s and they send out the replacents. For free so they will send you a 4g phone as a replacemt insted of upgradeing it but don't just till them that you wont a new phone what they will do is go to get you the replacemnt droid 3 and see that they are out of em and send you a new other then the droid 3 they are not upgrading it they are replacing it
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They are out of droid 3s right now just call them up for them to send you a replacement and they are out of droid 3s and they send out the replacents. For free so they will send you a 4g phone as a replacemt insted of upgradeing it but don't just till them that you wont a new phone what they will do is go to get you the replacemnt droid 3 and see that they are out of em and send you a new other then the droid 3 they are not upgrading it they are replacing it
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Also they are over nighting my nexes so I will have it tomarro
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Hey dude, seriously, use some commas. It's impossible to read what you wrote.
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im saying bye as well. My drs oid 3 has been giving me bugs and they are replacing me with the galaxy nexus also... im curious if this move is to establish a higher user base too with the nexus vs apple fight goign on
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im saying bye as well. My drs oid 3 has been giving me bugs and they are replacing me with the galaxy nexus also... im curious if this move is to establish a higher user base too with the nexus vs apple fight goign on
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yep thats what i was saying i can not spell that good thanks to my school not doing there job 22 years old and stuck at spelling sorry guys
me and Dri94 not only is geting a good phone but we can unlock are bootloaders think god.
i will be running Team Liquid Jelly Bean 4.1 TORO i am happy i get to run jelly bean and i was thinking i wood not ever get too but with my other old droid 3 im going to unlock it next mouth to use on at&t and the bootloader as will if they ever get that port done
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yep thats what i was saying i can not spell that good thanks to my school not doing there job 22 years old and stuck at spelling sorry guys
me and Dri94 not only is geting a good phone but we can unlock are bootloaders think god.
i will be running Team Liquid Jelly Bean 4.1 TORO i am happy i get to run jelly bean and i was thinking i wood not ever get too but with my other old droid 3 im going to unlock it next mouth to use on at&t and the bootloader as will if they ever get that port done
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How did you guys do this? I just called the asurion insurance number and they told me I would be receiving a droid 3. Who did you two talk to that said they would send a nexus? I backed out at the end because I didn't want to pay the $100 today for another droid 3. Maybe I'll try back in 30 days and hope their droid 3 supply runs dry.
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How did you guys do this? I just called the asurion insurance number and they told me I would be receiving a droid 3. Who did you two talk to that said they would send a nexus? I backed out at the end because I didn't want to pay the $100 today for another droid 3. Maybe I'll try back in 30 days and hope their droid 3 supply runs dry.
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I am on the phone with VZW now... they keep telling me I can only get a Stratusphere... F'ing bastards
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I am on the phone with VZW now... they keep telling me I can only get a Stratusphere... F'ing bastards
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Tell them you're not going to pay $100 for a crap stratosphere and hang up. I guess we'll have to try again another day. The only downside is that Asurion will only replace a phone up to 60 days after the damage so now that the claim is opened you'll have to grab a replacement within 60 days if you ever plan to get one.
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I am on the phone with VZW now... they keep telling me I can only get a Stratusphere... F'ing bastards
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Sometimes you gotta be stubborn to get what you want. My replacement Nexus 4G LTE is arriving on Thursday!!!!
I'll be calling Big Red tomorrow. Many times... As needed.
Guys stop this, if your going to try and get over on them atleast quit this thread, my phone was actually having issues which I why I called them. This thread attracts negative attention.. And to the poster who intended that verizon was lying about the nexus 4g lte. They weren't, according to their system they aren't even allowed to switch a 3g phone woth 4g. Their is a reason the fascinate or whatever samsung has been accidently showin g up, even tho its also 4g.
But stop this. Xda doesn't need bad attention like this, and if yur really intent on getting at verizon, blabbing about it in one of the biggest known forums surely wont work. They will shut it down quick. Stop posting unless you are also saying bye or have a comment to the op
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Guys stop this, if your going to try and get over on them atleast quit this thread, my phone was actually having issues which I why I called them. This thread attracts negative attention.. And to the poster who intended that verizon was lying about the nexus 4g lte. They weren't, according to their system they aren't even allowed to switch a 3g phone woth 4g. Their is a reason the fascinate or whatever samsung has been accidently showin g up, even tho its also 4g.
But stop this. Xda doesn't need bad attention like this, and if yur really intent on getting at verizon, blabbing about it in one of the biggest known forums surely wont work. They will shut it down quick. Stop posting unless you are also saying bye or have a comment to the op
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I am not trying to get over on anyone. I am a paying insurance customer with a broken phone (cracked screen) so I am entitled to a replacement. As-is I looked at the value proposition ($100 for another Droid 3) and didn't deem it worthwhile but if my $100 will yield a nexus replacement then I am willing to pay the deductible. Being informed about my options as an agent in the market doesn't mean that I am "getting at verizon".
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HAHAHA - I said I wanted to talk to his supervisor, and two minutes later he comes back with this bull**** story that he clicked on the wrong option in his "tool", and once he "fixed it", his "tool" suggested the Nexus 4G LTE as the recommended replacement!!! Sometimes you gotta be stubborn to get what you want. My replacement Nexus 4G LTE is arriving on Thursday!!!!
THANK YOU leerpsp for this post - I never would have known I could do this!!!!
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Ok man but I Think we need to lock or remove this post I made so verizon will not know I helped us found a big a$$ loop hole but nun the less this is still cool as hell. (YW guys)
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My apologies to you for the get over part. But this kind of thread will make people just start sending in their phones to get a nexus. Yes people can say its clever but if people start doing that its the wrong kind of attention to be posted at xda.. Im guilty of it from awhile ago I posted a way to get moto attention, but mod explained it to me so now im just watchn out for it.
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My apologies to you for the get over part. But this kind of thread will make people just start sending in their phones to get a nexus. Yes people can say its clever but if people start doing that its the wrong kind of attention to be posted at xda.. Im guilty of it from awhile ago I posted a way to get moto attention, but mod explained it to me so now im just watchn out for it.
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Ok man thanks
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Dri94 said:
Guys stop this, if your going to try and get over on them atleast quit this thread, my phone was actually having issues which I why I called them. This thread attracts negative attention.. And to the poster who intended that verizon was lying about the nexus 4g lte. They weren't, according to their system they aren't even allowed to switch a 3g phone woth 4g. Their is a reason the fascinate or whatever samsung has been accidently showin g up, even tho its also 4g.
But stop this. Xda doesn't need bad attention like this, and if yur really intent on getting at verizon, blabbing about it in one of the biggest known forums surely wont work. They will shut it down quick. Stop posting unless you are also saying bye or have a comment to the op
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I understand the concern, but I had a legit broken phone as well. I tried to get a replacement last month and they gave me the same run around (no more DROID3 and had to replace with a Stratosphere). I also tried getting the GNex as a replacement before with no luck either. I did not, and still do not want a stratosphere phone. I thought i was stuck with a D3 with a broken keyboard. But this time, with persistence, I was able to. I'm not trying to instigate a massive "Let's attack Big Red" campaign. I'm just letting people know they don't have to settle with the first option they tell you.
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Ok man but I Think we need to lock or remove this post I made so verizon will not know I helped us found a big a$$ loop hole but nun the less this is still cool as hell. (YW guys)
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I removed some things I said in the earlier post. You can completely delete it if you would like. Sorry for the negative publicity.
How do you get a GNex? I'm talking to them now and they seem to have all these D3's available to ship! WTF!? :'(
EDIT: My Droid 3 replacement is on its way. ****.
Not that I'm encouraging ppl to scam verizon, but based on what I hear about how they do business, and the way they treating customers, I don't have any sympathy for them. They seem to try to rip everyone off. I'm Damn glad I don't have to deal with them.
Not to mention, im pretty sure we all try to cajole, bargain and intimidate when dealing with large companies like that, just as they offer great deals to new customers and then try screw us once we're hooked.
So in conclusion, don't lie to them and try to replace your perfectly good phone, but if you have legit problems, for sure try to convince them to upgrade you.
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Few things I want to get straight, I in no way shape or form tampered with this device. I am an AT&T employee and came across this while setting a customer up with his new S5. This is how it came brand new sealed out of the box. Also, I understand the photo is blurry. This is due to the fact that the screen did not stay up long. I snapped as fast as I could before I had to take it back because it was actually extremely buggy and kept freezing. Just felt the need to to share with the guys. Looks like some are being missed in the lock down lol.
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Few things I want to get straight, I in no way shape or form tampered with this device. I am an AT&T employee and came across this while setting a customer up with his new S5. This is how it came brand new sealed out of the box. Also, I understand the photo is blurry. This is due to the fact that the screen did not stay up long. I snapped as fast as I could before I had to take it back because it was actually extremely buggy and kept freezing. Just felt the need to to share with the guys. Looks like some are being missed in the lock down lol.
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Can you tell what software version its running?
That doesn't mean the bootloader is unlocked. It simply means that the devices scanning utility (SysScope it was called on the S4) detected a change to a file. In the case of the phone you had, it sounds like it was probably do to a faulty board or failing software in a bad unit. The S4s are known to show "custom" for absolutely no reason at all or because of something on the SD card. It usually reverted back to official after a couple of reboots. I'm not trying to be confrontational by asking this, but how can you be an AT&T employee and not know this? Like I said, this question is not a personal attack, but I am wondering if AT&T gives any training on how these devices work in real life and not just on the shelf. Either way, I promise you the bootloader is still locked on that device. The unlocked symbol and custom have nothing at all to do with the bootloader.
Mine shows that also
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Mine shows that also
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Me too. Still not exactly sure what it means unless it's the developer options being enabled.
Edit: Just checked and it's not the developer options...and mine doesn't have the unlock icon anymore actually. I think scott14719 is probably right.
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Me too. Still not exactly sure what it means unless it's the developer options being enabled.
Edit: Just checked and it's not the developer options...and mine doesn't have the unlock icon anymore actually. I think scott14719 is probably right.
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I'm right. If you want more information about it you can search the AT&T S4 forum for relevant threads. There really is a lot of information about it that might answer a lot of potential questions.
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That doesn't mean the bootloader is unlocked. It simply means that the devices scanning utility (SysScope it was called on the S4) detected a change to a file. In the case of the phone you had, it sounds like it was probably do to a faulty board or failing software in a bad unit. The S4s are known to show "custom" for absolutely no reason at all or because of something on the SD card. It usually reverted back to official after a couple of reboots. I'm not trying to be confrontational by asking this, but how can you be an AT&T employee and not know this? Like I said, this question is not a personal attack, but I am wondering if AT&T gives any training on how these devices work in real life and not just on the shelf. Either way, I promise you the bootloader is still locked on that device. The unlocked symbol and custom have nothing at all to do with the bootloader.
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AT&T provides training that is optional for new devices, but there is an article released with relevant information to sell the phone. They do not train employees to check bootloaders, for root, for knox warranty, etc. None of my coworkers know what a bootloader is or what it means to be locked or unlocked. Edit: No training provided by AT&T mentions root, jailbreak, bootloaders, etc etc.
To be on topic, after I switched to ART, the Custom unlocked pad came up, when I switched back to Dalvik, the Custom unlocked padlock went away.
I am also an AT&T COR store employee and none of my coworkers know about that kinda stuff. Not a lick of training is given on that.
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I'll try not to take offense to that....lol. No AT&T does no training for these things. And to be honest with you I am usually pretty knowledgeable when it comes to these things. I have been out of the Samsung scene for a while ( Due to me using my more developer friendly Nexus 5 or my new HTC One M8) so I am now unfamiliar with how these devices handle certain things. I have yet to do anything like change my runtime on the device do to the fact that it only made minor performance changes to my Nexus 5. If I would have I probably would have gotten the same boot screen and then eventually thought nothing of it. Just had a little moment of excitement while on the job lol.
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I'll try not to take offense to that....lol. No AT&T does no training for these things. And to be honest with you I am usually pretty knowledgeable when it comes to these things. I have been out of the Samsung scene for a while ( Due to me using my more developer friendly Nexus 5 or my new HTC One M8) so I am now unfamiliar with how these devices handle certain things. I have yet to do anything like change my runtime on the device do to the fact that it only made minor performance changes to my Nexus 5. If I would have I probably would have gotten the same boot screen and then eventually thought nothing of it. Just had a little moment of excitement while on the job lol.
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Definitely no offence intended. I just wish AT&T, Bestbuys, etc... would do a better job of training the people that they expect to sell these devices. Most people don't know the everyday quirks of most devices unless they are given an oppertunity to learn about them.
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Definitely no offence intended. I just wish AT&T, Bestbuys, etc... would do a better job of training the people that they expect to sell these devices. Most people don't know the everyday quirks of most devices unless they are given an oppertunity to learn about them.
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Careful what you wish for!! Last thing I need is someone checking whether my Knox has been tripped or my bootloader unlocked when I do a return :laugh:
As AT&T employees you better get ahold of some higher ups, and let them know they are going to lose lots of customers due to the lock down on their bootloaders of their devices. Many people are ready to switch.
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As AT&T employees you better get ahold of some higher ups, and let them know they are going to lose lots of customers due to the lock down on their bootloaders of their devices. Many people are ready to switch.
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they don't care and anything this guy says will most likely anything this guy says will be ignored
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they don't care and anything this guy says will most likely anything this guy says will be ignored
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Seems to me they should care, they could lose 100's if not 1000's over the next 4 years.
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Seems to me they should care, they could lose 100's if not 1000's over the next 4 years.
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But in the grand scheme of things 100 to thousands isn't that big of a loss. for an example with the s5 I can almost guarantee we are just a small subset of s5 owners the largest portion will never know what root is or have any idea what to do with it. The money they take from the larger portion will cover the expected returns from the 1% who are upset and or mad that they locked the BL.
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But in the grand scheme of things 100 to thousands isn't that big of a loss. for an example with the s5 I can almost guarantee we are just a small subset of s5 owners the largest portion will never know what root is or have any idea what to do with it. The money they take from the larger portion will cover the expected returns from the 1% who are upset and or mad that they locked the BL.
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Your right partially but grand scheme of things = all of their devices that are locked not just s5's. I am just saying that, they are always seeming to pull more customers in with new deals so gaining customers is important to them. So not losing customers should also be important in the same aspect no matter what the percentage is. If they don't care then shame on them.
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Your right partially but grand scheme of things = all of their devices that are locked not just s5's. I am just saying that, they are always seeming to pull more customers in with new deals so gaining customers is important to them. So not losing customers should also be important in the same aspect no matter what the percentage is. If they don't care then shame on them.
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They would love to get everyone 100% satisfied but realistically its impossible so they shoot for the highest number of satisfied people
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Seems to me they should care, they could lose 100's if not 1000's over the next 4 years.
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No they won't. Who are they going to switch to? Tmobile? Tmobile will be locking down their bootloader as soon as they get the chance. Only reason why they haven't already is because they need as many customers as they can get. Same reason they kept downloader booster...even though they can't afford to keep it. Not to mention, the average user doesn't give a crap about bootloaders or download boosters.
I got the custom message after applying ART.
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But in the grand scheme of things 100 to thousands isn't that big of a loss. for an example with the s5 I can almost guarantee we are just a small subset of s5 owners the largest portion will never know what root is or have any idea what to do with it. The money they take from the larger portion will cover the expected returns from the 1% who are upset and or mad that they locked the BL.
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You are right I seen an older couple at the att store buying both s5's and it looked like they did not know anything about root. Etc. They are buying the device because of its features and camera. Not saying older people don't mess with the bootloader or anything.
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I will not state the obvious with the exception of this: If you can not root a device much less install a custom recovery, development essentially means absolutely nothing to you.. In this case what is the new definition of open source? "Open source" made android what is today.
All opinions from different perpectives are welcome--but please mind your Ps and Qs.
Thanks....
EDIT: I firmly believe that xda members must be patient. However, there must also be a realistic reckoning. That is to say--hypothetically speaking--if it takes five years to create an exploit, for all practical purposes one could consider that bootloader impregnable considering the exponential pace of technological advancement. So, if one is measured in their assessment and comments, it is closer to the truth and a heck of a lot more useful to talk in terms of "X" device has a bootloader that can not be unlocked. If for example the S4 is "cracked" say--three years from now, will anyone care? Will development restart? Finally, like with any choice, it's up to the individual to decide what can be considered "hard locked." For me, I guessed that the S4 would be leaked an unlock after the S5 came to market. Obviously my reasoning was wrong. At any rate, my ship has sailed--I can be patient no more.
But remember here we are assuming for the sake of a discussion that these bootloaders will not be exploited and if that is the case will that spread to the point that US development dies on the vine.
I thought unlockable bootloaders WERE promoting US development. The T-Mobile S5 subforum is buzzing, and it's crickets around here. It's these locked bootloaders that cause some frustration.
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I thought unlockable bootloaders WERE promoting US development. The T-Mobile S5 subforum is buzzing, and it's crickets around here. It's these locked bootloaders that cause some frustration.
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I think your right about T mobile. But they come with bootloaders that allow rooting and Installation of a custom recovery (I.e. unlocked).. When I say unlockable I am refering to carriers like At&t and Verizon. Take a look at their forums--you can almost hear crickets! As they are "locking down" one might wonder if it will spread especially as a carrier attains its target market share through promotions and even merger.
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I think your right about T mobile. But they come with bootloaders that allow rooting and Installation of a custom recovery (I.e. unlocked).. When I say unlockable I am refering to carriers like At&t and Verizon. Take a look at their forums--you can almost hear crickets! As they are "locking down" one might wonder if it will spread especially as a carrier attains its target market share through promotions and even merger.
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T-Mobile is unlockable the HTC One M8 is unlockable, AT&T and Verizon S5 variants are not unlockable - we can't unlock them.
Not being able to unlock the bootloader, I believe is going to end development, at least for AT&T and Verizon. If I had the cash, I probably would've went with the T-mobile version, but I'm not rich like that LOL
As it was said by a mod in another thread, giving hopes to users that the AT&T/Verizon's S5 will get root anytime soon is just unfair for the users. It will not happen. The AT&T Note 3 got root when in 4.3, but there is no root in the horizon for KitKat don't even think about an unlocked bootloader. The same happened to the S4 after it was updated the bootloader and root is now lost and that has been for many, many months and on a phone that it had a very large development. Developers are not even bothering on wasting their time on AT&T/Verizon because there is the TMO and International versions available.
So to answer the original question my answer would be Yes.
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As it was said by a mod in another thread, givit helpsng hopes to users that the AT&T/Verizon's S5 will get root anytime soon is just unfair for the users. It will not happen. The AT&T Note 3 got root when in 4.3, but there is no root in the horizon for KitKat don't even think about an unlocked bootloader. The same happened to the S4 after it was updated the bootloader and root is now lost and that has been for many, many months and on a phone that it had a very large development. Developers are not even bothering on wasting their time on AT&T/Verizon because there is the TMO and International versions available.
So to answer the original question my answer would be Yes.
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I couldn't agree more. I think it's good you emphasize the truth as I helps newer people understand.
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As it was said by a mod in another thread, giving hopes to users that the AT&T/Verizon's S5 will get root anytime soon is just unfair for the users. It will not happen. The AT&T Note 3 got root when in 4.3, but there is no root in the horizon for KitKat don't even think about an unlocked bootloader. The same happened to the S4 after it was updated the bootloader and root is now lost and that has been for many, many months and on a phone that it had a very large development. Developers are not even bothering on wasting their time on AT&T/Verizon because there is the TMO and International versions available.
So to answer the original question my answer would be Yes.
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There is a fine line between giving false hope and nurturing fears, saying "It will not happen" is not necesarily true, it may not happen, but then again remember some who waited for a year to get root or those with iphones who waited for a year to jailbreak.
just my opinion is all.
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There is a fine line between giving false hope and nurturing fears, saying "It will not happen" is not necesarily true, it may not happen, but then again remember some who waited for a year to get root or those with iphones who waited for a year to jailbreak.
just my opinion is all.
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Agreed, when I said 'it will not happen' i was referring to the 'anytime soon' statement.
I agree that saying "it's coming soon" is probably not the best phrase to use. However, to say it will never happen is just as bad. It simply did not and has not happened as fast as we want it to. There is always someone smarter when it comes to computers and software. I am sure the devs have a life outside of hacking a phone for us and everyone needs to be patient. Plus the fact with the Knox security, I am sure the devs want to find all possible work arounds. Just my opinion though...
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What I've come to realize in my years of owning Android devices and reading these posts on xda is that virtually nothing is impossible. However, that is a double-edged sword meaning that the manufacturers have had to step up their collective games to make it even harder for exploits to be found. AT&T and Verizon are protecting themselves from the idiots who don't know what they're doing and brick their devices or get them infected with viruses. I can understand that to a point. However, I would gladly pay AT&T and even sign a waiver to let ME take the risk solely upon myself to do what I would like with MY phone. It's idiots that ruin it for the rest of us. Such as the world, I guess. Just my two cents.
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I love to use custom Roms etc.However when you buy a phone, buy it for what it is not for what you want it to be later on. The fact that there is no root is what keeps me using my GS4 more than this phone but the S5 is a solid Device, has great battery life (for me at least) and gets everything I need done. Its a matter of being patient especially for any who own the 4 and know how Samsung and ATT locked the previous iteration of this phone.
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What I've come to realize in my years of owning Android devices and reading these posts on xda is that virtually nothing is impossible. However, that is a double-edged sword meaning that the manufacturers have had to step up their collective games to make it even harder for exploits to be found. AT&T and Verizon are protecting themselves from the idiots who don't know what they're doing and brick their devices or get them infected with viruses. I can understand that to a point. However, I would gladly pay AT&T and even sign a waiver to let ME take the risk solely upon myself to do what I would like with MY phone. It's idiots that ruin it for the rest of us. Such as the world, I guess. Just my two cents.
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Please explain how these so-called "idiots" are the reason AT&T and Verizon "had" to lock down the devices. I don't understand.
AT&T and Verizon are protecting themselves from the idiots who don't know what they're doing and brick their devices or get them infected with viruses.
I think I kinda explained it right there.
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AT&T and Verizon are protecting themselves from the idiots who don't know what they're doing and brick their devices or get them infected with viruses.
I think I kinda explained it right there.
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Yes - I get that statement. But, how are they protecting themselves. That is, how are they harmed by these "idiots?" Further, if one were to extrapolate users from population, roughly 96% of mobile phone users in the world don't seem to pose a significant problem to thier carriers as it is only the NA carriers that do this ("hard" lock the bootloader). Then, futher hone that to say maybe 1.5%, at the most, US users root their phones. Then narrow further by device. If these numbers are even close--how many of these "idiots" are there. You've been around long enough to know some of the so-called "idiots" were accomplished developers. I do not want to argue with you. I am genuinely intetested in why you see it this way.
rachelm920 said:
Not being able to unlock the bootloader, I believe is going to end development, at least for AT&T and Verizon. If I had the cash, I probably would've went with the T-mobile version, but I'm not rich like that LOL
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Have you checked into the buyout and trade in promotions T Mobile has? Maybe you can switch with little or no pain. Lol
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Have you checked into the buyout and trade in promotions T Mobile has? Maybe you can switch with little or no pain. Lol
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I'm so god damn sick of this OTA sh... I was at work and it rebooted and started installing by itself. I tried to pop the battery but no matter what I do it continues the installation.
I'm moving to T-Mobile. Thanks ATT!
I'm sorry my off-the-cuff remark has gotten out of hand. The idiots to whom I am referring are the ones who brick their phones or get them infected by lack of knowledge and then try to blame the carrier instead of taking the responsibility themselves. As a precaution, I can see AT&T locking their devices down in an attempt to prevent that from happening. I understand it's a small number of people that cause this or are even affected by this, but by doing so, AT&T can better control their integrity. Same reason why a bag of peanuts sometimes says "Caution: Contains nuts." C.Y.A.
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I'm sorry my off-the-cuff remark has gotten out of hand. The idiots to who. I am referring are the ones who brick their phones or get thefected by lack of knowledge and then try to blame the carrier instead of taking the responsibility themselves. As a precaution, I can see AT&T locking their devices down in an attempt to prevent that from happening. I understand it's a small number of people that cause this or are even affected by this, but by doing so, AT&T can better control their integrity. Same reason why a bag of peanuts sometimes says "Caution: Contains nuts." C.Y.A.
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It's cool. Posts are often taken wrong or worded differently than someone else is used to talking. I see your point. It makes sense. I may be a little too jaded (to put it nicely) to let them off the hook that easily though. Lol.
After my purchase of the new Samsung galaxy s5 on AT&T I will state that this will be my last carrier specific purchase,
My girlfriend has the HTC M8 (I had one also but hated the freaking pics from the camera).
This was another example of lesson learned, I will from now on purchase nexus devices or not locked to a carrier specific devices, or Google play edition devices from now on.
No more jumping the gun paying full retail to get phones on release day screw that. Lesson has been learned here for sure.
I am thinking on sending my Galaxy S5 into http://www.maxback.com and then purchasing a nexus 5, then later this year when the new nexus is available,I can pick one of them up.. But im kind of stuck as I love the camera on the s5.... this is what is holding me up...
Sure we and disable the bloatware on the Samsung and all that fun stuff, but there is a world of difference when all those items are gone
Thanks to the awesome developers here on XDA making some kickass roms for us.
I run the kingkat on my girlfriends HTC m8 from the HTC forums and it is so much faster with all of the bloatware and features she was never going to use gone.. that m8 is night and day in speed difference and usability..
Bottom line If we are here we have the mindset to tinker and to tinker on these devices WE need to stop buying locked down phones..
ihi im new here and i was wondering if some one can amswer me one question. can the person still report the phone stolen after i registered phone with at&t i just sign up today on post paid no contract plan?
I would yes depending on the circumstances. IF it was sold and payment was not received/revoked I could see it being possible. But if it was clean and there is proof of purchase/receipt of payment then no.
Best guess.
warfenix said:
I would yes depending on the circumstances. IF it was sold and payment was not received/revoked I could see it being possible. But if it was clean and there is proof of purchase/receipt of payment then no.
Best guess.
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Thanks i bought it free and clear from the guy but a liitle skeptical since my buddy bought a iphone 5 and later it became useless and disabled the sim and suspended his line of serves.
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pcguy101 said:
Thanks i bought it free and clear from the guy but a liitle skeptical since my buddy bought a iphone 5 and later it became useless and disabled the sim and suspended his line of serves.
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I would call the att service center and ask to be sure. Did you get a bill of sales at all even through it was free
(should always get one)
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I would call the att service center and ask to be sure. Did you get a bill of sales at all even through it was free
(should always get one)
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No i dont have one , he seem honest and had kids with him bit who knows desperate people do this type of stuff but i'm just asking i thought if you register your phone with at&t it becomes yours.
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pcguy101 said:
No i dont have one , he seem honest and had kids with him bit who knows desperate people do this type of stuff but i'm just asking i thought if you register your phone with at&t it becomes yours.
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Eh... possible. I would imagine that since it was allowed to be registered you should be fine. I would call att like I said and ask them specifically.
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Eh... possible. I would imagine that since it was allowed to be registered you should be fine. I would call att like I said and ask them specifically.
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Ok i will thanks for replying i appreciated.
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You really should listen to that inner voice next time, because you seem hesitant now, and you were probably then. It may all be just fine, but next time, remember Swappa, Amazon or eBay.
Good luck
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got my nexus 6 (t mobile) coming on Friday. whats the best rooting method? Any all in one tools that flash recovery and everything? Also, with Tmobile, they have the 5 gig lock on tethering even though its unlimited 4g. Does rooting and Roming help with that?
droidxxxxx said:
got my nexus 6 (t mobile) coming on Friday. whats the best rooting method? Any all in one tools that flash recovery and everything? Also, with Tmobile, they have the 5 gig lock on tethering even though its unlimited 4g. Does rooting and Roming help with that?
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For your first question:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2948481
For your second, I can not help as I am on Sprint.
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got my nexus 6 (t mobile) coming on Friday. whats the best rooting method? Any all in one tools that flash recovery and everything? Also, with Tmobile, they have the 5 gig lock on tethering even though its unlimited 4g. Does rooting and Roming help with that?
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First step.... read the instructions:
https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images
I just got mine
I've been rooting Sammy phones for a couple years, and jumped ship to the Nexus 6. I found the Nexus Root Toolkit to be the best way. Check it out.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/development/toolkit-wugs-nexus-root-toolkit-v1-9-8-t2947452
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I've been rooting Sammy phones for a couple years, and jumped ship to the Nexus 6. I found the Nexus Root Toolkit to be the best way. Check it out.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/development/toolkit-wugs-nexus-root-toolkit-v1-9-8-t2947452
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Learn ADB/Fastboot before u go to toolkits to make sure u know how to get out of any situation if it arises.
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Learn ADB/Fastboot before u go to toolkits to make sure u know how to get out of any situation if it arises.
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This.
My standard message:
There's nothing wrong with toolkits themselves. They can be great, useful tools. We're not even saying they cause bricks either - though users not understanding things *could* cause one...Toolkits are necessary on many devices, but on Nexuses, the manual steps are very easy.
Ultimately it's fine to use a toolkit but *only* if you already know how to do all these steps manually. If you do not know how to do that then you should do it manually so that you do know. The reason for this is if something goes wrong further down the line, we don't want to have to teach you the basics AND tell you what you need to do to fix whatever issue you have. We just want to do the latter - because teaching someone the basics that they should already know when they are frustrated and panicking is not a good set of circumstances to be teaching under and it is frustrating to us more than you and putting us in that situation is a little bit selfish
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This.
My standard message:
There's nothing wrong with toolkits themselves. They can be great, useful tools. We're not even saying they cause bricks either - though users not understanding things *could* cause one...Toolkits are necessary on many devices, but on Nexuses, the manual steps are very easy.
Ultimately it's fine to use a toolkit but *only* if you already know how to do all these steps manually. If you do not know how to do that then you should do it manually so that you do know. The reason for this is if something goes wrong further down the line, we don't want to have to teach you the basics AND tell you what you need to do to fix whatever issue you have. We just want to do the latter - because teaching someone the basics that they should already know when they are frustrated and panicking is not a good set of circumstances to be teaching under and it is frustrating to us more than you and putting us in that situation is a little bit selfish
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Was there something wrong with my post?
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Was there something wrong with my post?
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No, why do you ask?
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No, why do you ask?
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from reading it i thought u stated it was wrong or something. I think i miss read it. Sorry
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from reading it i thought u stated it was wrong or something. I think i miss read it. Sorry
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Oh. I said "this" meaning I agree. Though it probably should have been "this ^ ^" but I couldn't be bothered
Then i just tagged my part on the end.
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Oh. I said "this" meaning I agree. Though it probably should have been "this ^ ^" but I couldn't be bothered
Then i just tagged my part on the end.
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understood thanks
Well being that the xda app will not let me start a new thread for some reason I guess I will ask it here since I started this thread on my computer. Does anybody with T Mobile on this phone or any phone I guess experience delayed text messages still? I'm going to be switching from Verizon and I hope I'm not going to kick myself in the ass for this. I had an unlimited data plan but just got in over my head with two edged plans and very expensive devices was paying over $250 a month.
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Learn ADB/Fastboot before u go to toolkits to make sure u know how to get out of any situation if it arises.
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Yes agreed, don't use toolkits unless you know how to fix things if something goes wrong or you f it up. Adb isn't that hard if you practice a little and there are many articles that will help with learning it.
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Well being that the xda app will not let me start a new thread for some reason I guess I will ask it here since I started this thread on my computer. Does anybody with T Mobile on this phone or any phone I guess experience delayed text messages still? I'm going to be switching from Verizon and I hope I'm not going to kick myself in the ass for this. I had an unlimited data plan but just got in over my head with two edged plans and very expensive devices was paying over $250 a month.
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I just did the switch from verizon to att on monday and havent looked back. 13 years with crappy customer service is enough, but I never had any delayed messages.
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I just did the switch from verizon to att on monday and havent looked back. 13 years with crappy customer service is enough, but I never had any delayed messages.
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So with ATT are you having any delayed messages?
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I always thought Verizon had good customer service lol until I call them recently to try to get them to lower my bill being I was on the older grandfathered in unlimited there was nothing they could do lol
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I always thought Verizon had good customer service lol until I call them recently to try to get them to lower my bill being I was on the older grandfathered in unlimited there was nothing they could do lol
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We have two Unlimited lines and one 2GB line (i.e., kids are growing up). I spoke in the store with a Salesperson who claimed he could get me a discount on a family package with 6GB shared for about $10 less/month than my current plans. Plus, I'd be able to purchase subsidized phones for the two (previously) unlimited lines, again. I wanted to check this out myself online, so looked later that evening and couldn't find what he offered.
The next day, I called Verizon and a Salesperson couldn't reproduce that deal, only giving me the $20+ greater cost that I'd already calculated using their online plan comparison tool.
So, it might depend on who you talk to (or, if your request is even reasonable).
Friends and relatives helped me understand that coverage seems good for all the major carriers in our area - I'd probably first consider Sprint if our unlimited plans went away and costs went up substantially for very little data/month.
- ooofest
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So with ATT are you having any delayed messages?
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None, and I even had my wife text me just the time on the message of when it sent and it was within seconds I recieved it after she sent it.
She was about 20 miles away also