Hi guys,
I've had my HTC One for over a year now and love it except recently it seems to have gone really slow / sluggish and visibly takes ages to do anything recently. For instance today in work I wanted to show someone a photo I took on my camera this morning... I went into the camera app and then clicked the thumbnail at the bottom to get to gallery and it must have taken 30 seconds to open the picture.... as much as I have iPhones, with them I have seen people click and it is pretty much instant....
I have updated it to the latest software (4.4.2) as soon as it was available a few months back and it is completely stock / unrooted etc.
Is there any way to either a) find out what is making it slow or b) get something to make it faster?
To note, I would rather not root / install a custom rom if I don't have to but if thats the only way then please do say so.
Thanks in advance for any help.
Did you install any new Apps that might be hogging resources?
There are process loggers and probably take a look at battery drain to identify apps.
I'd suggest to backup essential information (just in case) and perform a factory reset.
Thanks for the responses guys:
@gotcha69 - I install apps all of the time so it may well be this but I have no idea how to track down which one is at fault, shy of a very long process of installing everything one by one...
@davebugyi - can you recommend a process logger please? Looking at battery app usage this morning, 41% Google Play Services, 40% Android System, 5% MX Player and TV Catchup 2%... does any of that seem unusual?
Was watching a video on the way to work this morning and when I got there, pressed pause and it took a couple of seconds to actually stop the playback. I just cant get my head around a phone more powerful than most desktop/laptop computers from 3 years ago can be so sluggish for simple actions.
Definitely thinking about a factory reset - is there any way to backup apps on a non-rooted phone?
@gk141054 - I use only the built-in app in Android Tuner, but you can try OS Monitor or Elixir 2 or CPU Monitor.
For me GP services a bit too much in my opinion.
To back-up things you can use the accounts sync option on a non rooted device - copy all your stuff into a computer from SD Card, but nothing much can be done with apps. Maybe you can try HTC's backup app (can't help much, since I am rooted and using Titanium backup).
Check your media server
gk141054 said:
Thanks for the responses guys:
@gotcha69 - I install apps all of the time so it may well be this but I have no idea how to track down which one is at fault, shy of a very long process of installing everything one by one...
@davebugyi - can you recommend a process logger please? Looking at battery app usage this morning, 41% Google Play Services, 40% Android System, 5% MX Player and TV Catchup 2%... does any of that seem unusual?
Was watching a video on the way to work this morning and when I got there, pressed pause and it took a couple of seconds to actually stop the playback. I just cant get my head around a phone more powerful than most desktop/laptop computers from 3 years ago can be so sluggish for simple actions.
Definitely thinking about a factory reset - is there any way to backup apps on a non-rooted phone?
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I've been having a bunch of trouble recently on my HTC One... some app update (I suspect Twitter for various reasons) has been causing my HTC's media scanner to go crazy, frequently hogging 25% CPU and causing 15% logcat (as measured by CPU Monitor).
I finally solved the problem seemingly by force closing the media server, clearing its data, force stop twitter, clear its cache, and delete it's cache folder (Android/data/...twitter/cache). For good measure, I also cleared .thumbnails (DCIM/.thumbnails, use ES file manager and enable hidden files).
Your mileage may vary...
- Zuki
gk141054 said:
Thanks for the responses guys:
@gotcha69 - I install apps all of the time so it may well be this but I have no idea how to track down which one is at fault, shy of a very long process of installing everything one by one...
@davebugyi - can you recommend a process logger please? Looking at battery app usage this morning, 41% Google Play Services, 40% Android System, 5% MX Player and TV Catchup 2%... does any of that seem unusual?
Was watching a video on the way to work this morning and when I got there, pressed pause and it took a couple of seconds to actually stop the playback. I just cant get my head around a phone more powerful than most desktop/laptop computers from 3 years ago can be so sluggish for simple actions.
Definitely thinking about a factory reset - is there any way to backup apps on a non-rooted phone?
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I have the same lag issues on my M7 as well GK, did you ever find a solution?
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I have the same lag issues on my M7 as well GK, did you ever find a solution?
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I had definitely the same issues with my HTC One M7. I identified Mediaserver as the source of the problem. Mediaserver regularly scans all files on the device.
What I did to get rid of the problem is installing SD Maid (Pro) (no rooted device needed!). Scanning and deleting all the trash files that accumulated in the last 2 years freed about 2 GB of space!
Since then no lag on my HTC One was encountered!
Henry
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alright it is with great pain that i am writing this, but i really need some help here. for months i've read the forums, searched for answers, asked little individual questions, IMed with people directly for help... and i'm still having trouble.
i rooted my T-Mobile G1 all the way back when cupcake first came out. everything was great. life was grand. everything ruled. i was a happy android fanboy, talking friends into switching to android, talking crap about iphones... the works... but slowly things started getting slower and slower and slower...
the obvious thing was to wipe and reflash. i was constantly just updating to newer cyanogen roms at that point without wiping. so i wiped to the newest cyanogen at the time (can't remember at this point, but just picture it was like a couple months after cupcake). so things were good again for a little bit, but then it started slowing down again, getting FC's, etc. so a friend recommended i switch to superD... i did, and again, everything was great for a while. i consistently upgraded superD roms (sometimes wiping in between sometimes not). eventually i got to the point where i was on the most recent superD release. it lasted about a day before things started slowing down. examples include when i hit home to exit an application and go to the home screen, the whole screen would either turn black or just show my wallpaper for a good 5 seconds before my home screen would appear, or opening the browser would take like 10 seconds. lots of slow down.
so with the help of a friend i decided to completely wipe and reformat/repartition my sd card. i bought titanium backup but i didn't even bother with it, i said to myself, look, you barely use any of the stuff you have right now, how about just start fresh and reinstall things as you need them manually. so i formatted, repartitioned (using amon Ra's recovery, using the menu option that helps you do it automatically). i made sure i had the most recent radio and spl (this was just a couple months ago), and reflashed the most recent superD (i think its 1.11 if i remember correctly)... again, maybe one day of good performance before everything slowed down. this was also about the time when my battery life started becoming an issue. i'm not exaggerating when i say i couldn't make it home without breaking under 20% battery by the end of the day... and i really don't use my phone THAT much. i'd say i'm a little above average on my usage. i'll get into my widgets and apps in a second, but i really don't use that much stuff...
SO... continuing my story (thanks for sticking with me if you're still reading...). when cyanogens 2.1 for the g1 rom came out (5.0.8d/s) i decided it was time for a change. i reformatted AGAIN, repartioned AGAIN, and flashed 5.0.8. basically, i've got the same story going on. slowdowns, poor battery life, etc.
so here i am with my cyanogen 5.0.8 flashed g1. let me tell you about apps and widgets and stuff. right now i have a regular wallpaper (not live), 14 icons between my 5 screens and just the google search and power management widgets. i used to have calwidget, the genie widget (both news and weather), and the setcpu widgets too, but i decided to take them off to see if it would help with performance. zero help. apps that i either know for sure are always running or i think may have some impact are twidroyd, newsrob, craigsnotif (craigslist notifier), and dealdroid. i don't think any other apps are running and/or do automatic updates for content and stuff like that.
i also use cachemate (purchased) regularly to clear my caches. apps2sd is enabled.
i'm not sure what other information you'd need to help me out, but just let me know and i'll try to give you more details.
right now, i've got slow down like almost all the time. things are constantly pausing, slowing down. i feel like i'm back on my t-mobile mda with winmo5 haha. and forget about it with the battery. i left the house with 90% battery this morning. i went to the gym. went home. picked up lunch. came to work. its been like 4 hours. i currently have 19% battery. all i've done is make 2 phone calls, about a dozen text messages and i've sent 2 tweets (about my battery problem haha). i also used google maps once to look up a number. my wifi and gps is off.
so there we go. really guys, please please please. help me out if you can. any help would be appreciated. i'm so sick of this. and i'm stuck in contract until july 2011. so i'm not getting a new phone any time soon. i gotta figure this thing out.
i really appreciate your help.
thanks.
Dave
OH... and PS... forgot to mention that I just got a new battery this week thinking maybe the battery was just getting old and bad. obviously, no such luck.
I had the same issues till I flashed a SuperD, then everything was fine. I just recently flashed the Froyo from Cyanogen and its like it fixed everything and I'm on a brand new device (knock on wood)!
How old is your G1? Do we know if there are issues with the first run out of the factory? Is that even an issue?
i got the g1 last july. so it was already out for a while at that point. it was new from a store though. i suppose there could be something actually wrong with the phone itself, but i don't know. i was thinking of trying the cyanogen froyo but because its not a stable release yet i figured it would be just this bad or worse...
I promise cm5.0.8 has wonderful battery life when no custom apps are installed and not on any network..
so the question is what is your phone doing, and ought it be doing what it is doing.
There are some nice built in tools for this
Applications->running services
And
Applications -> manage applications (check out the filter in the menu from that screen)
You may be surprised by the apps the think they need to constantly have a service running for some painful trivial job the android API has better interfaces for.. if in addition to that you don't need the app uninstall it.
Otherwise experiment with comp cache and lock launcher in memory.
another example, as i was reading this i was on the phone and i just finished the call and hung up, and i was previously in text messages, it took 12 seconds for my text messages to come up. thats just insane...
as for running services:
- GTalkService <--- I use GTalk all the time
- GenieRefresh Service (Restarting) <--- weird considering I disabled this widget, although I'd LIKE to have it back
- Maps FriendsAppWidgetUpdater (Restarting) <--- never used this in my life
- NewsRob UnreadWidgetProvidor (Restarting) <--- never used the widget before (as a matter of fact, you have to pay to use the widget and i have the free version... weird)
-Twidroyd Background Service <--- understandable, I use this constantly
- AKNotepad Snaptic Update (Restarting) <---- umm... I use this all the time but I don't know why a notepad program would need an updater service running... interesting...
- Swype <---- gotta have that
- CM Updater (Restarting) <--- Don't really think that needs to be on all the time. Can easily manually refresh that...
So that's it. I didn't realize this was included now. Very cool. On older roms I had to use task managers which don't seem to really work. I'm going to stop everything except twidroyd, gtalk and swype right now and see how that does... at the bottom it says Avail: 3.2MB+0.00B in 0 ... Other: 55MB in 4 ... While typing that the Maps FriendsAppWidget just popped back up... I'm gonna see if theres a setting...
In the meantime, does any of this give you any ideas? thank you so much for the advice. Also what does (Restarting) mean?
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Otherwise experiment with comp cache and lock launcher in memory.
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oh and i have compcache not checked and launcher in memory IS checked... i just tried turning on the compcache option... lets see how that goes...
ok so...
now that i know about those things that were running, i stopped all the ones i don't need, and also went into the apps to see if there was any options for turning off automatic updates, background syncing, etc etc for those things... i'm gonna charge my phone while getting ready to go out and then we'll see how it goes throughout the evening. lets see if i make it home with more than 20% battery left (i'll be gone for like 5 hours). if so then we're on to something here still i find it weird that i can't have a few widgets loaded. but whatever, i'll take a smoothly running phone that lasts all day and i just have to click on icons to get to stuff any day... thanks for the help, i'll let you know how its going tomorrow.
the next day
ok so i tried the compcache and keep launcher in memory options last night, messing with both settings. i found that every possible combination became very unstable other than the one i already had (which was compcache off and launcher in memory on). after trying to shut excessive running services like i mentioned yesterday, and also restarting the phone and then shutting them again, i got NO difference in performance OR battery life...
so back to square one... any ideas guys?
thanks so much for any help you can give me. i really really appreciate it.
polarbearmc said:
ok so i tried the compcache and keep launcher in memory options last night, messing with both settings. i found that every possible combination became very unstable other than the one i already had (which was compcache off and launcher in memory on). after trying to shut excessive running services like i mentioned yesterday, and also restarting the phone and then shutting them again, i got NO difference in performance OR battery life...
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Um... The compcache instability scares me a bit
Compcache has had issues (maybe still does) where the first time you enable it the phone crashes.. but then works fine with Compcache on reboot. Otherwise it really ought no make the phone unstable. (it may or may not speed things up depending on how memory is being used.. usually however it allows 12MB of memory that is rarely used to be compressed, allowing a little more active memory to be utilized) You may want to look into wiping dalvik-cache both on the internal memory and SD card:
Enter console and run (this will restart the phone)
Code:
rm -rf /data/dalvik-cache/*
rm -rf /cache/dalvik-cache/*
rm -rf /sd-ext/dalvik-cache/*
reboot
if you get an error about no files found thats not an issue; but other errors may indicate a problem.
This may help system stability (with or without compcache) .. but won't do anything about the battery life (nor speed unless something was seriously wrong)
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Unfortunately you will either need to erase all your apps and just run stock CM5 [maybe slowly restore your apps you really need] -- OR -- be very patient and debug whatever application(s) are causing issues on your phone (and maybe complain to the dev for failing to read/understand google's documentation on how to write android applications.. not that some of the google apps haven't quite figured that out until recently)
Thus again the main question is what is running on your phone.. The places I mentioned before allow you to see the services (most of which usually restart if you run the related application again) but not strictly all the details to look for.
Example 1 An widget service is likely holding onto memory starving timer services (those not listed) and swapping out other services (phone/launcher making everything feel slow) At the same time the widget is not very active usually and may not connect to the internet at all; thus may not reduce battery life.
Example 2 An IM client on the other hand may requires a service to keep TCP/IP connections alive, and if not coded properly may be very persistent and cause a slow continual stream of data from your phone requiring a large amount of power to keep the phone on 2G/Edge.
Example 3 A Task killer an kill tasks that re-spawn, or kill a task in use if it doesn't know better causing things to behave in strange ways.. so can killing services/applications from the setting screens btw.. but at least that is a one off by user decision not a automatic operation in the background. Tasks when re-spawned may require more data from the internet thus more power to 2G/Edge
User: Then the one that causes me the most problems: A user that keeps the phone in his/her pocket rather than surfing the web, checking XDA, or continuously checking the battery level is using the device less thus will have longer battery life. (careful to not fall into this trap)
Other Ideas:
SetCPU: set the sleep CPU low in profiles (sleep for me is 245/160)[/*]
Verify End action: Settings->End Button Behavior->Go to sleep[/*]
Set longer periods between polls in applications that poll the net (example twitter every 10 or 20mins.. not 5)[/*]
Larger net transfers on wifi if available (example tell newsrob to sync on wifi only) wifi drains the battery faster than idle, but is much cheaper if larger amounts of data are involved.[/*]
As you can see many things will impact the system. You will need to find the ones eating your battery
Another helpful screen for debugging this may be Settings->Spare Parts->Battery History and Settings->Spare Parts->Usage Statistics
I get between 4h and 12h batter life under semi-normal conditions. 4h = surfing 3g + tappatalk + games.. 12h check email/tweat if i get one.. otherwise stays in my pocket. I've seen my test phone hang out for days on a 2g network without data. (so you can always set your apn type to mms if you just need it to be a phone for many hours.. mms keeps mms support btw)
Ebuddy (and most other MSN/AIM/ect chat clients is frequently one of the biggest problems on my phone.. so if I need more battery those are the first to go.. and whomever it is can poke me on gtalk/txt/or wait
Good luck in your search.. Took me a while to make cm5 work as long as cm4.. most of it was mis-behaving apps that I either know to shut off when I need longer battery life.. or have found replacements for.. or avoid widget functionality if the widget was misconfigured. (
Hi Everyone. I'm relatively new here, but would appreciate any advice offered.
I've had my M7 for almost 2 years now, and it's been a great phone. My issue is that the phone seems to have randomly become very slow. When I got the phone, I was amazed at how quickly the phone booted. Now when I do a reset, it easily takes 2-3 times as long as it used to. More importantly, the phone will lag when turning on with the power button (to the point where I wonder if I hit the button hard enough, and push it again, causing the phone screen to come on then immediately go off). Responding to texts is slow, the keyboard will occasionally lag opening up. Texting is sometime laggy as well, with words not appearing for several seconds. Scrolling through web pages is also laggy at times. Gaming is relatively fine; I haven't noticed any slow down issues when playing, although I suppose games could load faster, but I can't notice if there is a difference from when I got the phone until now.
The phone has also gotten wonky with adjusting the volume. Sometimes I will try to adjust the volume, but it adjusts the app/games volume instead of the main/ringtone volume (when I'm not in an app or game).
I do have a lot of stuff on the phone, but routinely clean out photos and apps I don't use. I'm using 23.8 gigs out of the 32g available, so I should have plenty of space. I also close out apps regularly, so I don't think it is a memory loss issue.
I've wondered if it is the apps running in the background. It's hard to tell, as the biggest ram offender is "settings." Right now for example, settings is using 76MB of ram, but i have no idea why. I've closed all apps as well. I'm on AT&T, so of course I have a bunch of their crap running in the background, but most of it is relatively small.
I've thought about doing a factory reset, or even rooting, to see if that would help, before I decide to just go ahead and upgrade to a new phone. Any suggestions? Thanks for the help!
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Hi Everyone. I'm relatively new here, but would appreciate any advice offered.
I've had my M7 for almost 2 years now, and it's been a great phone. My issue is that the phone seems to have randomly become very slow. When I got the phone, I was amazed at how quickly the phone booted. Now when I do a reset, it easily takes 2-3 times as long as it used to. More importantly, the phone will lag when turning on with the power button (to the point where I wonder if I hit the button hard enough, and push it again, causing the phone screen to come on then immediately go off). Responding to texts is slow, the keyboard will occasionally lag opening up. Texting is sometime laggy as well, with words not appearing for several seconds. Scrolling through web pages is also laggy at times. Gaming is relatively fine; I haven't noticed any slow down issues when playing, although I suppose games could load faster, but I can't notice if there is a difference from when I got the phone until now.
The phone has also gotten wonky with adjusting the volume. Sometimes I will try to adjust the volume, but it adjusts the app/games volume instead of the main/ringtone volume (when I'm not in an app or game).
I do have a lot of stuff on the phone, but routinely clean out photos and apps I don't use. I'm using 23.8 gigs out of the 32g available, so I should have plenty of space. I also close out apps regularly, so I don't think it is a memory loss issue.
I've wondered if it is the apps running in the background. It's hard to tell, as the biggest ram offender is "settings." Right now for example, settings is using 76MB of ram, but i have no idea why. I've closed all apps as well. I'm on AT&T, so of course I have a bunch of their crap running in the background, but most of it is relatively small.
I've thought about doing a factory reset, or even rooting, to see if that would help, before I decide to just go ahead and upgrade to a new phone. Any suggestions? Thanks for the help!
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Plug the phone into your pc and copy the entire contins of the sdcard to a folder on your pc. when it's done do a factory reset from the bootloader
setup the phone as a new phone and only copy back the stuff you really need and use. This should be done about every 6 months in my opinion
How is your storage? I had the same symptoms a few months ago, and what fixed it was clearing up some space from the phone. It used to have only 2-3 GB space left, and when I removed all the media files I got 12-13 GB free space left, and suddenly the phone is back to snappy again!
When I encountered the same situation, I was rooted and running CM 12, but no amount of wipes would resolve the issue. What I did that resolved the issue was to load the RUU for my HBOOT version, re-root my One, change the system to S-Off (hence not updating the HBOOT version), and then reloading everything. In all honesty, it took about 8 hours if you include the banging my head against the wall trying to download the right files, but the performance is increased about 25%, with the battery performance having increased about 30%. Before, about 4 hours of activity would kill it, now she can handle 5 to 5:45 of activity. I was initially thinking about grabbing a new phone, but the change after reloading everything makes me think that another she'll be good for another year.
I have a N6 purchased Dec 2015 new from Amazon. The only mods, if you can call it that is, I have unlocked the boot loader. I am currently running N6F26Y sideloaded via ADB.
The phone was great when I first got it but now after about a day or so of usage it becomes slow and sluggish and unresponsive I have to restart it to use it. I have done a factory reset a couple of times which gets it back to normal for a week or so and then the problem recurs. Occasionally I will delete the cache which also helps. Snapchat is one of the worse apps - crashes the phone regularly and is a very slow app.
Also the camera can get very slow often taking seconds to take one photo.
I love the phone but it's becoming unusable now. The contrast between this and a new phone (I have purchased a Moto Z) is like night and day. The Moto Z runs instantly, has no lag and is a nice phone. But what I like about the N6 is the large screen which makes it great for videos etc.
Short of perhaps flashing some custom ROM is there anything I could be doing?
I'd recommend flashing a rom like pure nexus, super stable that should fix your problem, otherwise you've done all you can and is the easiest fix
Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk
lchiu7 said:
I have a N6 purchased Dec 2015 new from Amazon. The only mods, if you can call it that is, I have unlocked the boot loader. I am currently running N6F26Y sideloaded via ADB.
The phone was great when I first got it but now after about a day or so of usage it becomes slow and sluggish and unresponsive I have to restart it to use it. I have done a factory reset a couple of times which gets it back to normal for a week or so and then the problem recurs. Occasionally I will delete the cache which also helps. Snapchat is one of the worse apps - crashes the phone regularly and is a very slow app.
Also the camera can get very slow often taking seconds to take one photo.
I love the phone but it's becoming unusable now. The contrast between this and a new phone (I have purchased a Moto Z) is like night and day. The Moto Z runs instantly, has no lag and is a nice phone. But what I like about the N6 is the large screen which makes it great for videos etc.
Short of perhaps flashing some custom ROM is there anything I could be doing?
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Hello,
It seems like some apps are really slowing down your phone. I use my N6 at home for web browsing mostly as I have a Pixel XL now. Just like you I love the screen size.
The camera has always been slow fore, because of the time it takes to focus...
Did you try using your phone a few days without Snapchat installed? Maybe you also have other misbehaving​ apps installed.
Uninstall Snapchat and other apps and start from here. Reinstall one per one with a few days interval. See if the issue still occurs.
Installing a custom ROM + kernel will likely speed up things a little bit. I second @Dugaldrob with Pure Nexus and I'd suggest ElementalX kernel on top. Running this combo on N6, N6P and Pixel XL and they work flawlessly.
I don't believe installing a custom ROM alone will fix your issue though. Stock ROM shouldn't cause the phone to slow down to the point you need to reboot to use it.
Finding the culprit will...
Good luck...
5.1 said:
Hello,
It seems like some apps are really slowing down your phone. I use my N6 at home for web browsing mostly as I have a Pixel XL now. Just like you I love the screen size.
The camera has always been slow fore, because of the time it takes to focus...
Did you try using your phone a few days without Snapchat installed? Maybe you also have other misbehaving​ apps installed.
Uninstall Snapchat and other apps and start from here. Reinstall one per one with a few days interval. See if the issue still occurs.
Installing a custom ROM + kernel will likely speed up things a little bit. I second @Dugaldrob with Pure Nexus and I'd suggest ElementalX kernel on top. Running this combo on N6, N6P and Pixel XL and they work flawlessly.
I don't believe installing a custom ROM alone will fix your issue though. Stock ROM shouldn't cause the phone to slow down to the point you need to reboot to use it.
Finding the culprit will...
Good luck...
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Thanks
First step is to remove Snapchat. I rarely use the app and only because my daughter sends stuff on it. I am going to tell her to send me stuff via another method
If that doesn't work then it's a new ROM. I have performed ROM installs before but have never flashed a new kernel on a phone before so that will be a new experience. Hopefully I won't brick the phone
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Thanks
First step is to remove Snapchat. I rarely use the app and only because my daughter sends stuff on it. I am going to tell her to send me stuff via another method
If that doesn't work then it's a new ROM. I have performed ROM installs before but have never flashed a new kernel on a phone before so that will be a new experience. Hopefully I won't brick the phone
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Hello,
Don't worry, it's really easy. Also, if you are lost, there must be a ton of tutorials in general section. If you are lost yet, just ask and someone will point you in the right direction...
Good luck...
lchiu7 said:
I have a N6 purchased Dec 2015 new from Amazon. The only mods, if you can call it that is, I have unlocked the boot loader. I am currently running N6F26Y sideloaded via ADB.
The phone was great when I first got it but now after about a day or so of usage it becomes slow and sluggish and unresponsive I have to restart it to use it. I have done a factory reset a couple of times which gets it back to normal for a week or so and then the problem recurs. Occasionally I will delete the cache which also helps. Snapchat is one of the worse apps - crashes the phone regularly and is a very slow app.
Also the camera can get very slow often taking seconds to take one photo.
I love the phone but it's becoming unusable now. The contrast between this and a new phone (I have purchased a Moto Z) is like night and day. The Moto Z runs instantly, has no lag and is a nice phone. But what I like about the N6 is the large screen which makes it great for videos etc.
Short of perhaps flashing some custom ROM is there anything I could be doing?
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I've been running Pure Nexus and wanted to let peeps know I put Nitrogen on and man it's so smooth, my wifi tether is back and I went to sleep last night with 50% battery still. When I installed it I opted for the nano gapps I think so like 175mb for minimal apps and maybe that's why it's running so efficient. Maybe I could have re-installed Pure Nexus with a clean install and it would have gotten better but it was a good time to try something else. Also when Nitrogen got an update I was notified just like stock and it downloaded. I didn't even know these could do that. Anyways give it a try and you might just switch back. I was looking into new phones but if it keeps working so smooth with battery longer than a day then I'm fine for now.
Snap chat is not that big of an issue. What I have found to cause the device to slow down is normally almost full device storage and a crappy cache release code in apps. Some apps don't release their cache properly. So it causes lag. This is why a reboot seems to fix it.
While a custom rom may fix this issue it is not the solution. The proper solution is to find what is causing it and fix/repair/ditch it.
Worst offenders for crappy code in my thoughts. Other will disagree with one on this list I am sure. So don't bother. I know people swear by it. It runs like crap for me at times and causes my whole device to lag until I close it out.
1 Facebook
2 FB messenger
3 Google Chrome ( don't do it lol)
4 whatsapp
5 Hangouts
Mind you this is just a list on my usage. It may very per user and even device (considering different hardware)
zelendel said:
... It runs like crap for me at times and causes my whole device to lag until I close it out.
1 Facebook
2 FB messenger
3 Google Chrome ( don't do it lol)
4 whatsapp
5 Hangouts
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I can confirm this, because I've removed these apps (-whatsapp) and also decrypted the data partition...
My N6 is fast.
Maybe a lite stock ROM and an other kernel is a good start.
NLBeev said:
I can confirm this, because I've removed these apps (-whatsapp) and also decrypted the data partition...
My N6 is fast.
Maybe a lite stock ROM and an other kernel is a good start.
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Currently I have FB, FB messenger, and Chrome but when I installed gapps I chose a super lite install so tons of bloat and google apps were not installed and my battery has gone way up and it's so smooth. I'm sure even when we don't use apps they're always doing something in the background. I bet you're right and a stock lite ROM would be good too with the minimal bs apps.
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Snap chat is not that big of an issue. What I have found to cause the device to slow down is normally almost full device storage and a crappy cache release code in apps. Some apps don't release their cache properly. So it causes lag. This is why a reboot seems to fix it.
While a custom rom may fix this issue it is not the solution. The proper solution is to find what is causing it and fix/repair/ditch it.
Worst offenders for crappy code in my thoughts. Other will disagree with one on this list I am sure. So don't bother. I know people swear by it. It runs like crap for me at times and causes my whole device to lag until I close it out.
1 Facebook
2 FB messenger
3 Google Chrome ( don't do it lol)
4 whatsapp
5 Hangouts
Mind you this is just a list on my usage. It may very per user and even device (considering different hardware)
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Thanks for the advice. Of the list of apps above I have only Chrome and Hangouts. I really can't see replacing either of them.
I also should have pointed out that the phone locks up randomly requiring a hard reset. I wonder if an errant app could cause that or I have some RAM problem. Certainly on a PC bad RAM can use in Windows a blue screen or something but perhaps Android isn't so forgiving?
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Thanks for the advice. Of the list of apps above I have only Chrome and Hangouts. I really can't see replacing either of them.
I also should have pointed out that the phone locks up randomly requiring a hard reset. I wonder if an errant app could cause that or I have some RAM problem. Certainly on a PC bad RAM can use in Windows a blue screen or something but perhaps Android isn't so forgiving?
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I would flash TWRP, flash supersu in TWRP to root, make a complete backup in twrp, then remove whatever Google apps you're not using with a system app removal app. Getting some of that bloat off the device should help. If it's still laggy, then look into a custom ROM. I run Tesla on my Nexus 6 with none of the issues you're having. I don't decrypt it either
Running abdroid 7.1 here. I dont get any slowdowns, at leas until the battery doesnt drop below 50 and 25 percent.
Im running a custom kernel and my phone is rooted. Everything else is stock.
Can you flash a custom kernel and presumably TWRP without wiping the phone? If so then might try that before a custom ROM
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Can you flash a custom kernel and presumably TWRP without wiping the phone? If so then might try that before a custom ROM
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Hello,
Since your bootloader is unlocked, flash TWRP and install the kernel, no problem.
Might give you a slight boost at first sight, but your device will likely slow down over time anyway...
Cheers...
I'm on 7.0 with the April SP. I have dozens of apps installed, including Hangouts. I use Firefox for browsing, I like it better than chrome (and you can install an ad blocker).
My camera slows down when the battery is under 40%, and the whole device slows dramatically, though not unusable, at or below 5%. But otherwise, no issues what so ever.
One solution that I have not seen suggested here is resetting the device and NOT taking the Google account backup of all your apps. I would suggest making a completely clean install of the factory rom you have and installing one or two apps at a time, most important to you first. And do this for a few days/weeks until you find the app that's misbehaving.
Although there are general bad players out there, this bad app could be unique to your device. Just because all devices of the same model have the same specs and components, doesn't mean that there isn't variability in parts quality.
I would do this before trying any new roms or kernels. Find the true problem first.
Good luck!
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I had another idea: Go into your battery stats and network stats and storage stats and see if any app seems to be using too much of any, or all of the 3. This may get you the answer more quickly.
My UI freezes for 5 - 15 seconds, particularly when the phone regains network connectivity (reconnecting wifi or mobile network going from 0 to 1 bars). It's much improved after removing FB and Insta but. My launcher is even getting closed when the phone frequently, although the phone has ~500MB free RAM.
I dropped this poor phone one too many times, so before I replace it with another z3 compact, I'm wondering if everyone else on Marshmallow is seeing poor responsiveness as well.
I did have slow downs before but not like that,I have switched to Lineage and it works very well so I don't have any plans going back to stock Marshmallow.
yeah same here, i advice you to switch to lineage, you will feel like butter on the screen.
I don't have any lags at all, no launcher refreshes or whatever on stock MM. ( I don't use the horrible Facebook application)
Until 3 weeks ago, I used to have no lags at all on my stock Marshmallow 6.0.1 Z3C. I had uptime of 50 days and more and it didn't lag. Now, it happened twice in a row that my System RAM usage grew in last 5 days to 1,3 GB! It seems like a memory leak in kernel space. It's hard to pinpoint particular process. The phone is slow, multitasking doesn't work (reloads every app), my stock launcher redraws and the phone is unable to make/receive GSM calls - probably a symptom of low on memory state. I wonder, if it's caused by bluetooth driver, because I've transfered 100MB file on both occasions. I need more time to analyze this, this time I won't turn bluetooth on, so I can see if it is the cause.
Edit: I'm confident the cause is not bluetooth. Symptoms now appear after just 65 hours of uptime - . Now I tried to get rid of ES File Explorer, let's see what this bloatware did to system performace.
Edit 2: It seems the problem is gone after uninstalling ES File Explorer. Before uninstalling it had data storage set to external SD card. I replaced this piece of bloatware by open-source explorer called Amaze.
Thanks all. I was avoiding Lineage because I wanted the stock camera / DRM and their description makes it sound very unstable... "random reboots while charging", etc. I'll try it out anyway and add the stock camera back in if it runs well.
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Until 3 weeks ago...
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Do share the source of the issue if you find it. I'm still seeing UI lockups when the phone loses internet connectivity.
jayarmstrong said:
Thanks all. I was avoiding Lineage because I wanted the stock camera / DRM and their description makes it sound very unstable... "random reboots while charging", etc. I'll try it out anyway and add the stock camera back in if it runs well.
Do share the source of the issue if you find it. I'm still seeing UI lockups when the phone loses internet connectivity.
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camera works like stock in lineage, don't worry about that. you can face with other small bugs but still worth to use, it is better than stock in most cases.
having the same issue since a few weeks.
device gets VERY slow (i mean like 10 seconds to open the phone dialer or whats app)
Even did a factory reset, which only helped for ~2 days ...
same problem with my girlfriends Z3C.
Something is very wrong here ...
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Until 3 weeks ago, I used to have no lags at all on my stock Marshmallow 6.0.1 Z3C. I had uptime of 50 days and more and it didn't lag. Now, it happened twice in a row that my System RAM usage grew in last 5 days to 1,3 GB! It seems like a memory leak in kernel space. It's hard to pinpoint particular process. The phone is slow, multitasking doesn't work (reloads every app), my stock launcher redraws and the phone is unable to make/receive GSM calls - probably a symptom of low on memory state. I wonder, if it's caused by bluetooth driver, because I've transfered 100MB file on both occasions. I need more time to analyze this, this time I won't turn bluetooth on, so I can see if it is the cause.
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having the same issue since a few weeks.
device gets VERY slow (i mean like 10 seconds to open the phone dialer or whats app)
Even did a factory reset, which only helped for ~2 days ...
same problem with my girlfriends Z3C.
Something is very wrong here ...
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there must be a reason that it is slow as hell in stock while it works with jet speed in lineage. something related to sony software, hardware is okay.
Wipe cache (Power and vol+ until 3 Vibrations) helped a little, but i don't put too much hope in it.
It's my gf's Phone so i kind of hesitate to install some unstable beta on it. Or is there any real stable release out there?
Sony haven't pushed out any updates for over a year, so not sure how you can blame it on MM build.
It'll be an app.
My money's on Facebook or Messanger.
No lags or slowdowns on my phone, had the same build on it for a year now.
Autoupdates turned OFF.
No Facebook/Messanger.
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Sony haven't pushed out any updates for over a year, so not sure how you can blame it on MM build.
It'll be an app.
My money's on Facebook or Messanger.
No lags or slowdowns on my phone, had the same build on it for a year now.
Autoupdates turned OFF.
No Facebook/Messanger.
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Guess you're right, but i can't really accept a SD801 Phone being unable to run basic apps like FB
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Guess you're right, but i can't really accept a SD801 Phone being unable to run basic apps like FB
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Last year Facbook deliberatly broke their app, made it run slow and heat your phone up, as an experiment, to see what people would do. They honestly don't give a sh*t about what you think of thier app.
Uninstall it and use your browser, see if it makes a difference.
Try SD Maid from the playstore, that does some good basic houskeeping
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My money's on Facebook or Messanger.
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Nope.
I do not have a Facebook account.
Therefore I do not have facebook or messenger installed.
But I do have these slowdowns :-/
I read in an italian forum that it's the Google app fault, you should unistall updates and disable automatic updates until it's fixed.
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I read in an italian forum that it's the Google app fault, you should unistall updates and disable automatic updates until it's fixed.
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Interesting.
You got a link to that thread/post?
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Interesting.
You got a link to that thread/post?
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here and previous page
It seems the problem is gone after uninstalling ES File Explorer. Before uninstalling it had data storage set to external SD card. I replaced this piece of bloatware by open-source explorer called Amaze.
Now I have an uptime of 125 hours and counting, my System RAM usage is 0.90 GB and it isn't rising to 1.3 GB as it did before. So the phone is really smooth again. When I was checking my LogCat using DDMS, there seemed to be recurring message of ES File Explorer (estrong) leaking something, I don't remember if it was a window or an activity. What a piece of chinese malware it became. Interestingly, ES File Explorer's memory footprint was low (3 processes, 10MB total user space memory), even when leaking memory and this made debugging harder. Although I killed it, when the phone had problem (1.3 GB system memory), only a reboot worked. It totally seems like a memory leak to me.
GL debugging yours.
it works good with me ..
try to make clean install
I'm not going back to this crappy app. Once, it used to be outstanding, but they probably sold the app to another company in China and from there it went downhill. A lot of popups and ads for things I don't need. Their only purpose is to make your phone slower (bloatware) and optionally, to get money from you. I like simple, minimalistic apps, which do things they are designed for and do it right. Just this Linux approach and also "less is sometimes more".
It's confirmed that ES File Explorer makes network connections to China in background, no thanks!
Hi i have a question my battery is very bad 3 4 hours normal usage and I must go to charger my oxygen firmware is C.30 its my last oneplus phone :/
So long as it's a clean install, they should be all very similar... I've always been able to go past a day / 2 days depending on my usage.
Your apps will determine how long it'll last, if you're constantly on social media, playing games and hammering the battery , then it really doesn't matter..
I'm still on android 12 and I get about 8-10 hours SOT over about 40 hours..
I try make a clean install for games i have steam deck my usage is normal Messenger Facebook Instagram sometimes YouTube tiktok but 3 4 hours and my battery have 20% battery. What's is the best app for backup all apps ?
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I try make a clean install for games i have steam deck my usage is normal Messenger Facebook Instagram sometimes YouTube tiktok but 3 4 hours and my battery have 20% battery. What's is the best app for backup all apps ?
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If you're rooted then swift back up... Bare in mind that all those apps you just mentioned are very heavy... So yes your battery will always be poor..
I made a comprehensive list of things to do to get the best from your battery.. it's in the battery life thread, have a search for it..
Thanks
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If you're rooted then swift back up... Bare in mind that all those apps you just mentioned are very heavy... So yes your battery will always be poor..
I made a comprehensive list of things to do to get the best from your battery.. it's in the battery life thread, have a search for it..
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I hava a question how to delete current os and install fresh oxygen in twrp is option wipe system but in current phone I don't have twrp
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I hava a question how to delete current os and install fresh oxygen in twrp is option wipe system but in current phone I don't have twrp
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You really don't need twrp... You could go a full back up with twrp but it's not needed. Just factory wipe.. back up first
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So long as it's a clean install, they should be all very similar... I've always been able to go past a day / 2 days depending on my usage.
Your apps will determine how long it'll last, if you're constantly on social media, playing games and hammering the battery , then it really doesn't matter..
I'm still on android 12 and I get about 8-10 hours SOT over about 40 hours..
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Interesting. I noticed my battery life took a nosedive after I let it update to 13. Some folks told me its just coincidence but I think 12 was better on battery.
I am not rooted, is there any way to back up apps so I don't have to find and login to them all again without root?
I have things like smart home applications to control outlets, my DJI mavic app, control for an LED sign, my air conditioner, etc that I'll never remember all the logins to if I format right now.
I know from experience that I'll forget what they even are until I need to use it and then spend the next 30 minutes trying to remember not only what the app was, but also what email I used as a recovery for lost my password.
I'd give a fresh installation a try if I weren't afraid of it being a multi day ordeal to put everything back.
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Interesting. I noticed my battery life took a nosedive after I let it update to 13. Some folks told me its just coincidence but I think 12 was better on battery.
I am not rooted, is there any way to back up apps so I don't have to find and login to them all again without root?
I have things like smart home applications to control outlets, my DJI mavic app, control for an LED sign, my air conditioner, etc that I'll never remember all the logins to if I format right now.
I know from experience that I'll forget what they even are until I need to use it and then spend the next 30 minutes trying to remember not only what the app was, but also what email I used as a recovery for lost my password.
I'd give a fresh installation a try if I weren't afraid of it being a multi day ordeal to put everything back.
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If you're not rooted then no I don't think you can back up your apps in their current state like you would with let's say swift or titanium, but you can restore them using Google.
I think you need to take a look at your situation, it's always a faff when you full wipe.
Personally I would always root. I use two banks which are just fine with root.. I need root for my mods and for a few other apps I use that require it, it's not a battery issue, In fact quite the opposite as I can tweak my device using a kernel manager whilst a non root user won't be able to, not to mention adaway and swift backup.
I do a few things to make sure everything works..
1. Allow Google/chrome to remember my passwords for all sites, if I wasn't going to do this then I'd make an offline list of them and then go from there or even use 1password, that way you only have to remember 1 whilst it'll last every single site for you.
2. As im rooted I use the mod I posted to allow free back up to Google photos so I don't have to worry about media.
Same goes with my contacts.
3. Finally copy out critical files that I'd otherwise miss, I do this locally via PC, like the swift back up folder after the main back up, then others like emulators and their folders as they contain settings to my custom setup, my nova custom desktop back up, my downloads folder or categorise the contents into their own folders, anything else I can think of that I'll need (you get used to your routine, most of the time it's simply a case of adding the additional files that are different from your last back up, the more you do it the quicker it gets)
4. Get my boot images ready (patched and stock) a copy of the full firmwares I'm going to plus what I'm on and a note of both unless I can remember.
Done.
PS: reason I'm suggesting looking into it is you could be forced into it by something as simple as an error or device fault, so best to get your ducks in a row..
Overall I think I've seen better battery life from 12 if I'm being honest, but again it's down to the apps you use, what used to be quite light on android 12 may not be as friendly on 13 and vice versa, it's extremely difficult to get a bearing between devices as no two are the same, plus the apps each person has is so different.
If you really wanted to test then you'd need to remain as the device was then run tests on solitary apps and see what was lost over a period of time.
Also bare in mind that the device will begin to remember your habits over time too which helps write a lot with battery on both firmwares but it does take time to happen, a week I would give it.
Swift backup is the best backup app for rooted phones. You can back up everything completely along with its settings.