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[Q] Newb Question re: Rooting & ROM upgrades

Hi - I have rooted my N7000 with no problems and have CWM installed as per the instructions at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1446987.
I am new to Android (previously an IOS user) so the rooting/unrooting thing is new to me. I have searched the forums here and on android forums but most of the information I have found winds up being more advanced than the basic questions I have. Please forgive me for this basic question ahead of time.
Once rooted, do I need to manually unroot before upgrading to an official ROM? I am not interested (at this point) in flashing any custom roms - just the official ICS rom when it is released. I understand that if I accept an OTA rom upgrade, it will unroot the device. Is the only consequence of that having to re-root the device?
Thanks!

I dont know wat you make sense to follow Nook Table rooting guide instead of Rooting guide for Galaxy Note. which is sticky thread on development section.( and as much other device section i have seen, here it is most easy n state of the art guide available for note.)
Shrink said:
Once rooted, do I need to manually unroot before upgrading to an official ROM? I am not interested (at this point) in flashing any custom roms - just the official ICS rom when it is released. I understand that if I accept an OTA rom upgrade, it will unroot the device. Is the only consequence of that having to re-root the device?
Thanks!
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- You need not to unroot to update your device
- Yes you understand right, it will unroot your device
- Re Rooting is not only consequences, Rerooting is not easy after it. b'coz newer ROM is non rootable directly.
So in case of update, you have to use CWM / Mobile Odin instead of Kies/OTA
I have not read detail on link you have mention to root your device.
I just request to check your flash counter (Boot to download mode n check it on Rt upper corner)
Your CWM is working ?

Forgive me - I copied and pasted the wrong link. It was your rooting guide that I followed. CWM is working - I have already created an image of the device as backup.
When I enter download mode, I see no mention of flash counter. Upper right corner is empty. Upper left says:
Odin Mode
Product Name: GT-N7000
Custom Binary Download: No
Current Binary: Samsung Official
Is there some concern?
Thanks again for replying! So when an official rom update is released, if I want to maintain root for the purpose of doing backups, I should not upgrade using Kies or OTA. Otherwise, if I don't care about losing root (and hope that the new ICS rom is rootable) just use the OTA method, correct?

Shrink said:
Product Name: GT-N7000
Custom Binary Download: No
Current Binary: Samsung Official
Is there some concern?
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Everything's fine with your Note - your binary counter is No (or zero), which means that your warranty is still OK should anything happen to your Note. Binary counter 1 or higher is bad news - warranty is void.
Shrink said:
Thanks again for replying! So when an official rom update is released, if I want to maintain root for the purpose of doing backups, I should not upgrade using Kies or OTA. Otherwise, if I don't care about losing root (and hope that the new ICS rom is rootable) just use the OTA method, correct?
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I'd forget about OTA or Kies for two reasons:
1. you lose root and all the fun it brings
2. you wait until someone (either Samsung or your provider) sees fit to deliver the update - the same update is available here a day or two after its first release. In other words, you are in better hands here at XDA.

I will stick with here then.
I am disabling Auto update under Software Updates. That will only prevent OTA rom updates won't it?
Thanks again!

Shrink said:
I will stick with here then.
I am disabling Auto update under Software Updates. That will only prevent OTA rom updates won't it?
Thanks again!
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Yes, it will. Welcome to the fold.

If you followed guide for note thn itz ok, b'coz that link u shown was totally wrong. I read your data regarding counter n it is perfaxt, as of now nothing to worry,just atay tuned on xda, when you want to keep root use cwm to update, otherwise kies/ota.
Sent from my GT-N7000 using xda premium

[Q] USB Port broke...How to update...OTA won't work

I have a 6606 that I rooted and now the USB port is broke. The OTA update to 4.2.2 won't work (Due to root) and the usb port is broke so I can't load via flashtool ftf. I did remove SU, thinking the OTA would work and it did not.
1) What options do I have?
2) Is there a way to remove root completely so the OTA will load/install?
3) Would the device Factory Reset remove the root 100% so the OTA would install? (I was trying to avoid as I don't want to lose my son's minecraft game data)
Thank you kindly,
Randy

ransz28 said:
I have a 6606 that I rooted and now the USB port is broke. The OTA update to 4.2.2 won't work (Due to root) and the usb port is broke so I can't load via flashtool ftf. I did remove SU, thinking the OTA would work and it did not.
1) What options do I have?
2) Is there a way to remove root completely so the OTA will load/install?
3) Would the device Factory Reset remove the root 100% so the OTA would install? (I was trying to avoid as I don't want to lose my son's minecraft game data)
Thank you kindly,
Randy
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1) I am thinking..
2+3) maybe there are some unroot apps in playstore. I never tryed someone so I can not say if it works. With a factory reset I think you will less root. But wait with it and give me 20 mins. I do a backup in CWM and after that I will try it for you
You can try to convert(?) the ftf file in a flashable zip. But I don't know how to do that.. -.-
Edit: Ok, I tryed it(I have not choosed delete internal datas too) SuperSu was there also CWM..

Thank you for trying and if you come up with anything good, holla at me!

ransz28 said:
Thank you for trying and if you come up with anything good, holla at me!
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In my SuperSU (Chainfire) settings I have an option for a Full Unroot. Have you tried this ?

defsix said:
In my SuperSU (Chainfire) settings I have an option for a Full Unroot. Have you tried this ?
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I did that option and still won't OAT update.

ransz28 said:
I did that option and still won't OAT update.
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Factory Reset ? ODB over WiFi any use to you ? (Kernel dependent)

why get the ota update? install recovery if you havent already, and flash a stock deodexed rom based on tbe semi-latest firmware, or a custom rom of your choice. The tmobile os is crap anyway and full of thingz to kill your battery and performance. Also the latest update isnt 4.3 or 4.4 anyway as far as im aware, so you cant be losing much that xposed or custom roms cant give you.

aethervagrant said:
why get the ota update? install recovery if you havent already, and flash a stock deodexed rom based on tbe semi-latest firmware, or a custom rom of your choice. The tmobile os is crap anyway and full of thingz to kill your battery and performance. Also the latest update isnt 4.3 or 4.4 anyway as far as im aware, so you cant be losing much that xposed or custom roms cant give you.
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Just trying to keep it simple, my kid doesn't need a custom ROM.. LOL

ransz28 said:
Just trying to keep it simple, my kid doesn't need a custom ROM.. LOL
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what i mean it if otas causing you trouble just go with tbe custom rom. there are RomAur and deodexed stock that do everything the oem does and even look likr them. the latest tmobile update doesnt do **** for your phone except help tmobile. and i can say from experience that regardless. of the rom on your phone, the txg message about bills will still come though.

[ROOT] i9506 - i9506XXUAMI3 - KingoApp

bumax said:
Just to let you all i9506 users to know. I asked from KingoApp Facebook page if their app work with my i9506 and they confirmed it should.
So I tested they latest app (1.1.15.1792) with my phone and it seems to work.
More information: http://www.kingoapp.com/
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I hope this was OK to post in developement cause its so much easier to find this information from i9506 sub forum.
-bumax-
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just a copy/paste from général forum

Thanks, but knox counter remains there in 0X0 or it changes 0X1

Kingapp doesn't work for me with 4.3.
Envoyé de mon GT-I9506 en utilisant Tapatalk

People: http://r2.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/1q3r00/psa_kingo_root_has_been_deemed_suspicious_by_xda/

mabmed said:
Kingapp doesn't work for me with 4.3.
Envoyé de mon GT-I9506 en utilisant Tapatalk
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No support for 4.3 yet cause KNOX. KingoApp only works for 4.2.2.

bumax said:
No support for 4.3 yet cause KNOX. KingoApp only works for 4.2.2.
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tnx. does it trip KNOX or not? (0x1)

dXsL said:
tnx. does it trip KNOX or not? (0x1)
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As Kingo does not work for 4.3 yet, you should not try it.
For 4.2.2 it does not trip any flag and status stays official, there is no KNOX counter on 4.2.2

bumax said:
As Kingo does not work for 4.3 yet, you should not try it.
For 4.2.2 it does not trip any flag and status stays official, there is no KNOX counter on 4.2.2
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can i install on samsung s4 e330s?

Numero17 said:
can i install on samsung s4 e330s?
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I cant say 100% sure but I believe it works. Kingo say if your phone aint supported when you connect to it.

bumax said:
I cant say 100% sure but I believe it works. Kingo say if your phone aint supported when you connect to it.
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ok very good. Can you give me changelog? if i don't like it can i reinstall stock rom?

Numero17 said:
ok very good. Can you give me changelog? if i don't like it can i reinstall stock rom?
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Changelog can be found from Kingo website and yes, you can uninstall root with KingoApp. I tried uninstall and then reinstall with my i9506 and there was nothing to complain about it.

no i mean if i install this rom and i don't like it can i install stock rom (e330sksuami2)?

Numero17 said:
no i mean if i install this rom and i don't like it can i install stock rom (e330sksuami2)?
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This is root only. I dont know if you can install i9506XXUAMI3 on your E330s even it have pretty much same hardware and software.
But yes, you can always install stock rom over any other roms that does not have KNOX.

i have bootloader unlocked and no knox. i have android 4.2.2

Numero17 said:
i have bootloader unlocked and no knox. i have android 4.2.2
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Then you can root your current firmware with Kingo. There is no need to install any rom

ok perfect

successfully rooted on 4.2.2 stock ROM. being a little cautious (read: paranoid) I tried disabling internet on the machine I was running the root program. no luck, it NEEDS an internet connection. the strange thing was that it needed to remove the drivers that windows installed 5 minutes before, and then installed its own drivers. Suspicious or not, it worked.
my experience in case this helps someone:
without internet connection, the program will not connect your device. I double checked if USB debugging was enabled, dis- and reconnected the cable but the program would NOT detect my device. Enabled WIFI on my laptop, got internet again, and it started to connect. Don't worry when this takes long, in my case it took 3 minutes to uninstall the drivers or whatever it was doing (fast win7 x64 laptop, 40Mbit internet connection).
when there finally was a connection, I just clicked on the huge ROOT button.
Then don't get worried when it says "rooting" and "testing root" several times. I'm guessing it tests several different exploits until it finds one that works. on my mobile the "rooting" and subsequent "testing root" took 3 or 4 times. It concluded with a reboot and the root software returned to the initial screen asking for a connection. I disconnected the cable before the mobile was ready again as I did not want the root program to connect to my mobile again. It seemed to take a few seconds to find my carrier information (I got slightly worried) but after 3 seconds or so there was a signal. before the root, I never noticed this delay, nor was it visible the next 2 reboots. All seems to work.

What firmware do you flash?
Sent from my SHV-E330S using xda app-developers app

Hey!
I just rooted my device. Yeah its litle strange soft, but its doing hes job. Its changed my status in download mode to"system status: custom".
I fixed this by "wanam exposed", there is settings to but system in "fake status: official" and is fixing this. I am sure if I flash stock rom, then is NO problems and everything is LEGAL status(your warranty is OK).
I am in 4.2.2 and I waiting for modifications like kernel and custom roms to take my baby to max.
Anyway, nice job for kingo app!
YOU CAN ALWAYS REROOT WITH KINGO!
Peace for all!!!

Hey!
If you about fear the Kingo app actions and you already rooted with kingo, you can go for this way: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2597058
I was too rooted with Kingo, but for now to be sure, that nothing strange for installed to my phone. I was rooting with this method and I suggest you too.
AGAIN:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2597058
Enjoy!
Peace for all!!!

can i use cm 10.1.3 on knox i9305

hi all can i use cm 10.1.3 on my i9305 with knox bootloader

danmanbad said:
hi all can i use cm 10.1.3 on my i9305 with knox bootloader
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No. You have to disable or remove Knox and when you root you trigger knox counter to1 and your warrenty is gone.

Smedslund said:
No. You have to disable or remove Knox and when you root you trigger knox counter to1 and your warrenty is gone.
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thats isnt what i aked. in know i have already tripped the counter i should refraze my question
can i run a version of andriod that is lower than 4.3 on the knox bootloader

Some help please im lost

danmanbad said:
Some help please im lost
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haven't tried it yet but you should be able to flash it without a problem...flash a custom recovery and start flashing it...
knox is triggered so what could go wrong now? i flashed OMNI ROM(is 4.4.2) without a problem..
when you will flash the rom, it will format /system(where knox is) and all crap knox apps will be removed...

hello,
don't wan't to start another thread, I think my question -more or less- matches the subject, I tried to read everything related to knox but found no exact answer:
what partitions have to stay intact to keep knox flag intact?
- recovery - voids warranty
- kernel - voids warranty
- what about /system partition? let's say root via saferoot and use some parts of modded stock roms (I mean replace them via adb)
is there a possibility to have something like custom temporary recovery like it was possible for galaxy s advance: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1987313 (ie, you enter stock recovery and flash a .zip that contains cwm that runs instantly and disappears upon reboot) - I know, totally different device, but still worth asking...

Downgrade from Lollipop to Kitkat without tripping knox SM-G900F

Hi all!!
After spending a huge amount of hours, searching the forum, I still have doubts...
Is it possible to downgrade from Lollipop, to kitkat, without tripping knox (warranty void) in the S5???
Some say, that flashing with Odin it's ok, others say that will go in a loopboot, others say that the bootloader is not compatible, and flashing a new rom will trip knox, others say that if the rom is official, will not trip knox...
What to believe??????
If there is a way to downgrade, safely and without tripping knox, please show me how, in a step-by-step process, I really appreciate it.
Here are the mobile phone data:
SM-G900F
Firmware: G900FXXU1BOD3
Thanks in advance!

Downgrade away, I have the G900F, and flashing KK over LP works fine and does not trip KNOX
You only trip KNOX by flashing custom stuff, stock ROMs are signed by Samsung so do not trip KNOX
The only issue I had was having to flash KK twice, first flash worked but wouldn't boot, flashed again, booted first time

*Detection* said:
Downgrade away, I have the G900F, and flashing KK over LP works fine and does not trip KNOX
You only trip KNOX by flashing custom stuff, stock ROMs are signed by Samsung so do not trip KNOX
The only issue I had was having to flash KK twice, first flash worked but wouldn't boot, flashed again, booted first time
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Hi Detection!
Thank you for your enlightement, but tell me, you flashed your device using Odin, right?
Thanks!

Yep, ODIN 3.10.6

*Detection* said:
Yep, ODIN 3.10.6
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Ok, will give it a go!
Thanks Detection!

And how did it go?? Did You safely downgraded to KK?? I was thinking about it, got my S5 with pre-installed Lollipop but without root I can't block adds and stuff - it's rather annoying.

cichy20a said:
And how did it go?? Did You safely downgraded to KK?? I was thinking about it, got my S5 with pre-installed Lollipop but without root I can't block adds and stuff - it's rather annoying.
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You can root lollipop, but it'll trip KNOX
CF Auto Root

Yeah i know that CF-AutoRoot works on lolly but I'd rather keep my warranty void Guess no new method on gaining root w/o tripping knox was introduced to S5 design If i recall S6 is rootable now without knox messed up but no go for S5

I flashed my S5 a few months ago from 5.0 back to 4.4.2, and last week the same thing, but on my gf's Note3.
It's kind of easy and safe to do, if you do some research in advance:
- find exactly which ROM you need (the wrong one won't work and make ur phone temporarily unusable).
- download the official stock ROM
- KNOX won't trip if it's an official stock ROM.
- Boot the phone in recovery mode to wipe the cache partition and do a factory reset (after backing up the important data).
- Flash with Odin. There's many youtube tutorials on that one.
Enjoy.
If you didn't do a factory reset, wipe cache partitions etc you'll almost certainly get stuck in bootloop after flashing. In that boot up in recovery mode again, do those wipes and then restart.

*Detection* said:
Downgrade away, I have the G900F, and flashing KK over LP works fine and does not trip KNOX
You only trip KNOX by flashing custom stuff, stock ROMs are signed by Samsung so do not trip KNOX
The only issue I had was having to flash KK twice, first flash worked but wouldn't boot, flashed again, booted first time
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gluecks said:
I flashed my S5 a few months ago from 5.0 back to 4.4.2, and last week the same thing, but on my gf's Note3.
It's kind of easy and safe to do, if you do some research in advance:
- find exactly which ROM you need (the wrong one won't work and make ur phone temporarily unusable).
- download the official stock ROM
- KNOX won't trip if it's an official stock ROM.
- Boot the phone in recovery mode to wipe the cache partition and do a factory reset (after backing up the important data).
- Flash with Odin. There's many youtube tutorials on that one.
Enjoy.
If you didn't do a factory reset, wipe cache partitions etc you'll almost certainly get stuck in bootloop after flashing. In that boot up in recovery mode again, do those wipes and then restart.
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Hi all!
Tell me something, after flashing KK, software update is allways trying to update to LP... is there a way of avoiding this, without root access?
Thanks in advance!

you need to disable the FOTA processes, but I'm not sure you can do that without root

Ok guys so let me get this straight - I only need proper KK image, provided by Samsung (their signature and so on) with my CSC (in my case Polish XEO)? Then connect my phone with PC, start ODIN (any particular version?) and what to choose, what check and what not? Sorry for this only had HTC before (and Sony and LG but those are wifes phones) and flashing on it was a bliss, especially when You had S-OFF.

dicemaster said:
Hi all!
Tell me something, after flashing KK, software update is allways trying to update to LP... is there a way of avoiding this, without root access?
Thanks in advance!
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Not stop, but you can delay it indefinitely by clearing the cache in recovery each time it has the update ready for you to install
Then boot back into droid, and hit the install button, which will fail because you just deleted the update in recovery
Rinse and repeat
You can root KK without tripping KNOX though, so no reason to not root it really

*Detection* said:
Not stop, but you can delay it indefinitely by clearing the cache in recovery each time it has the update ready for you to install
Then boot back into droid, and hit the install button, which will fail because you just deleted the update in recovery
Rinse and repeat
You can root KK without tripping KNOX though, so no reason to not root it really
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Hi Detection!
I know we can root without tripping knox, but I am afraid of doing something wrong...
Can you tell me how to do it, in a safe way???
Thanks in advance!

dicemaster said:
Hi Detection!
I know we can root without tripping knox, but I am afraid of doing something wrong...
Can you tell me how to do it, in a safe way???
Thanks in advance!
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Either make sure your KK ROM is a pre June 2014 build, if not, either flash with ODIN, or read up on how to downgrade only the Kernel to a pre June 2014 KK kernel, then use towelroot app to root it, and flash your original Kernel back
All the info you need is here on XDA, might take a bit of reading, but you should really learn as much as you can before blindly flashing things anyway

I read in another thread, someone said that if your S5 came with LP out of the box, you can't downgrade to even official samsung KK without tripping knox. I'm not sure how true is this or whether that person is just blowing smoke.