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Anyone else annoyed?

I am finding that a lot of new ROMs are being posted that don't actually have any difference to other ROMs apart from some colours, and really are just themes.
I promised myself that I wouldn't write a wall of text so I've kept it short.
Is anyone else getting annoyed by this is or is it just me?

same here, at the most, some people have just applied a few tweaks which are readily available on the forums anyway

Same here.. It annoys me too.. these, um, 'devs'... I appreciate their effort, but its nothing much creative..

Fysi said:
I promised myself that I wouldn't write a wall of text so I've kept it short.
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Wall of text. Please explain that to this guy. http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showpost.php?p=18756483&postcount=3
(yes I know it's a different forum)

I would be okay with this if they clearly stated what they did instead of trying to make it seem like actual development

Sometimes I ask my self why they don't just make flashable themes instead of making their own "ROM"

They should put [COPYCAT] in front of their threads and save us a lot of trouble

That plus the ones that make a rom that I really like then decide they want to make their own forum that you have to sign up for if you want to keep up to date with the rom.

Or I hate.it when they make nice rom with their own stuff and theme it. Like wtf man no one wants a black and blue rom with a purple or green back cover. Think, man think.-________-
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TravisBean said:
Wall of text. Please explain that to this guy. http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showpost.php?p=18756483&postcount=3
(yes I know it's a different forum)
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That isn't a wall of text ;-)

Alanrocks15 said:
Sometimes I ask my self why they don't just make flashable themes instead of making their own "ROM"
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EXACTLY!
it would save us all the time of downloading, flashing and possibly restoring if you wiped.

I concur. If all that has changed is the theme, then just post a theme and let people choose ROMs that are actually useful.

OK you 're right 50%.
First you have to try the rom and then comment in the thread.

Yeah. I hate when they do that.
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giokou said:
OK you 're right 50%.
First you have to try the rom and then comment in the thread.
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What is the point when all the features are exactly the same as every other single ROM, and they will quite obviously not have the same performance as ROMs that have recognised developers making them?
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Confusing
For the average user it is very confusing to have so many roms out there. Not many have time to read countless thread with hundreds of pages to decide which rom is a winner and which is a lemon ...

Yes it is true that it will be lot more convenient to us people, but what if they're doing it to learn?
You're not paying them anyway.
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silvehosszu said:
For the average user it is very confusing to have so many roms out there. Not many have time to read countless thread with hundreds of pages to decide which rom is a winner and which is a lemon ...
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Not to make this personal, but if the average user is not willing to read and study then that is a problem of his, or her, own. XDA isn't about instant gratification, you SHOULD look and study, that's what evolves the average user into a more well built and well studied user
I'm not trying to offend you, just giving my two cents.
-Remember, Android hell is a real place and you will be sent there at the first sign of defiance-

This annoys me too but for a different reason. I have created my very first rom, but it is just another rom that I themed and tweaked. I threw that rom into the trash and reset my kitchen.
Its hard to think of something original, never been done before, stand out from the crowd, make iphone users jealous... which kinda sucks, because I want to contribute to the community. I think i'll just wait a week or two for the x10 gingerbread to come out and do a few themes...
It well, that's my rant finished.
/pointless story.
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Musicians thread?

Was wondering if we could make this thread happen because there's already the drummers thread and the bassist thread. This way, if it's all combined into one thread, it can help with clearing up future clutter with threads for other instruments.
We could have all our musicians all in one place and all talking about what they love.
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U forgot guitarists thread!
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There's a guitar one aswell? When did that one pop up?
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Not too sure that the respective op's would be too happy about a merge....
I'll leave that for Archer/Vanessa to decide though....
Also, merging would just create an unholy mess of a thread due to its chronological nature.
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conantroutman said:
Not too sure that the respective op's would be too happy about a merge....
I'll leave that for Archer/Vanessa to decide though....
Also, merging would just create an unholy mess of a thread due to its chronological nature.
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My thoughts exactly, and the reason why I've not already done it. Maybe we need a musician-specific sub forum

Anyone in here a trumpet player? Been playing mine for 10 years.
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conantroutman said:
Not too sure that the respective op's would be too happy about a merge....
I'll leave that for Archer/Vanessa to decide though....
Also, merging would just create an unholy mess of a thread due to its chronological nature.
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I hadn't thought about that to be honest. I just thought of keeping it slightly less cluttered by didn't think about the organization of this thread D:
But as you say, I'll just wait to see what either of those 2 say.
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My thoughts exactly, and the reason why I've not already done it. Maybe we need a musician-specific sub forum
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Only just seen this because my phone was being an arse
Would it be too awkward to merge it then?
And would a sub-forum really be feasible?
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Might be an idea to have the gtr/bass/drums threads and a separate misc instruments thread... (If there's a need for one)
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Would it be too awkward to merge it then?
And would a sub-forum really be feasible?
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Merging is no big deal to do, but all the posts are merged chronologically, so it would make reading the thread from the beginning very difficult. I think it would make more sense to close the existing threads and start a new dedicated one, if we were going to do anything with them.
Oh, and I was joking about the sub-forum. I should have used the instead of the
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Might be an idea to have the gtr/bass/drums threads and a separate misc instruments thread... (If there's a need for one)
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I think that probably works best with what we've currently got, but without a thread where they all talk to each other how will we start an xda band??
I'm still not convinced though that we shouldn't have a dedicated thread. I play both guitar and keyboards, as well as doing computer generated music and would like talking about them all but that would take at least 3 threads. I'd like to talk about them all in one place.
Now I've typed that I'm thinking that one thread is the way to go. Undecided Archer is undecided.

Archer said:
Merging is no big deal to do, but all the posts are merged chronologically, so it would make reading the thread from the beginning very difficult. I think it would make more sense to close the existing threads and start a new dedicated one, if we were going to do anything with them.
Oh, and I was joking about the sub-forum. I should have used the instead of the
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So is the idea of just having one dedicated thread gonna be put forward or are you just floating different ideas for the moment?
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So is the idea of just having one dedicated thread gonna be put forward or are you just floating different ideas for the moment?
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You've already put forward the idea by mentioning it. It's up to Vanessa, myself and any SM that wants to be involved so we're just chatting at the minute. It's a worthy idea so it will definitely get some consideration.

Well, I am a terrible singer but don't forget the vocalists...
And who is going to write the XDA Theme Song?

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You've already put forward the idea by mentioning it. It's up to Vanessa, myself and any SM that wants to be involved so we're just chatting at the minute. It's a worthy idea so it will definitely get some consideration.
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:fingerscrossed: then I guess
mf2112 said:
Well, I am a terrible singer but don't forget the vocalists...
And who is going write the XDA Theme Song?
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Who could forget about the vocalists xD
I do a bit of rapping myself, so I defo wouldn't miss put those on vocals
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mf2112 said:
I got a new phone, It just won't do
Its running real slow, ROM isn't new
So who can help me? Don't want no junk...
I need a great ROM, Not from a punk...
(chorus)
I found my answers on XDA
Got the best ROMs on XDA
The search works on XDA
You can find it on XDA.
(chorus)
I got a question, I wanna post
I need an answer, I need it most
Where can I post it? This ain't a joke
Hope mods don't move it, then make me broke
(chorus)
My phone is working, I gave some thanks
The members helped me, there were no pranks
I see some questions, I know just why
I'll post an answer, I won't be shy
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Very nice! I second.

I, for one, would beg any mod to NOT merge the musician threads.
I can only imagine scrolling through, and seeing 19 pictures of of someones guitar rig, links to bass sheet music, arguments about who actually invented the fiddle, and so on.
My point is that in the respective threads, people get pretty detailed about gear and preferences. It would be so frustrating to weed through all that for (in my case) drum related posts.
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TheSkinnyDrummer said:
I, for one, would beg any mod to NOT merge the musician threads.
I can only imagine scrolling through, and seeing 19 pictures of of someones guitar rig, links to bass sheet music, arguments about who actually invented the fiddle, and so on.
My point is that in the respective threads, people get pretty detailed about gear and preferences. It would be so frustrating to weed through all that for (in my case) drum related posts.
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Maybe there could be individual threads for the major instruments, one for all other less common instruments, and one common thread for general music discussion and to work on recording the XDA theme song?

mf2112 said:
Maybe there could be individual threads for the major instruments, one for all other less common instruments, and one common thread for general music discussion and to work on recording the XDA theme song?
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Exactly my thoughts.
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mf2112 said:
Maybe there could be individual threads for the major instruments, one for all other less common instruments, and one common thread for general music discussion and to work on recording the XDA theme song?
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Your minds cemented on the theme song idea big time lol
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TheSkinnyDrummer said:
I, for one, would beg any mod to NOT merge the musician threads.
I can only imagine scrolling through, and seeing 19 pictures of of someones guitar rig, links to bass sheet music, arguments about who actually invented the fiddle, and so on.
My point is that in the respective threads, people get pretty detailed about gear and preferences. It would be so frustrating to weed through all that for (in my case) drum related posts.
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This is where the confusion steps in.
If it's all merged together, it makes it more awkward and irritating for the people commenting for different instruments etc.
But if it stays how it currently is, I can imagine people noticing that and it getting out of hand and eventually seeing a thread for the triangle players of the community.
It's just a case of working out the best option. Any suggestions from you Skinny?
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PSX User Thread/Information - Latest ver.: V3! Merry X-mas! :)

Hi all!
So... the PSX thread is finally closed... but I guess some of us will keep using it, right? So I thought that it would be interesting to create a user thread for this great ROM.
UPDATE: A brief FAQ for you.
Q: So, what happened to the thread?
A: The developer got (allegedly) tired of the slackness of the majority of the people posting in the development thread, i.e. repeating questions that were already answered, repeating requests about features that were already requested, complaints about bugs that were already reported and mostly app/user related, etc.
Q: No more PSX?
A: Incorrect. Development goes on and you can follow it here. I will try to update this post with the most important updates, as apparently some people can't access the new forum from restricted access networks (office).
Q: Can we get nightlies and stuff?
A: It's possible, head out to the PSX forum and read the rules. I will only post released versions here, as the developers clearly want access to the nightlies to be limited, and I wouldn't want to get banned from their forum, would I?
Rejoice! V3 is finally here!
Changelog and mirror thanks to @infiltrata
Updated source to AOSP 4.4.2
Added charging LED option
Completely redone kernel with custom hotplug
Option to hide battery symbol completely
Active Display
Extended options for Quiet Hours
Customized Lockscreen targets
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?a=show&w=files&flid=10720
Hall of shame (Repeated question in this thread? You will get mentioned here):
Waiting for the first lucky winner
Cheers!

I was thinking to do the same... Thank you for the initiative

I hadn't logged in a week and read the bad news, sucks for us casual flashers. It would be awesome if they kept their androidfilehost updated and accessible to the public ...everybody wins.
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m_harsh said:
I was thinking to do the same... Thank you for the initiative
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Yes I think it makes sense!
Would be great if someone could follow ct's github and maybe build and share the releases...
On other news, I took the ART "plunge" this morning and so far I'm pretty happy with it! I lost about 1800 point in Quadrant, true, but battery life seems to have improved a lot! Don't know, maybe just placebo... I'll let it settle and try to give it some "normal" use and then I'll switch back to dalvik to compare... we'll see!
Oh and no compatibility issues so far. I was afraid that Carmageddon wouldn't work but it works perfectly with kitkat and art ^_^

Gone but not forgotten
I am a happy PSX user as a well. I tried catching up on all the issues but that was causing the problems but am still wondering since the thread is closed does that mean that CTFROMMN will never release any future updates or new Roms to us regular Joes? As a very new N4 owner I had only tried a few Roms but I have to say hands down, his latest work is the best that's out there right now. Its a shame if its the last one we will see.

I don't always post on XDA, I'm usually one of those who just lurk around and conduct experiments on their cellphone.
A few days ago I bought Nexus 4 after selling my old SGS2, and I tried several roms (both stock and non-stock), and the one that has actually caught my eye was PSX.
Smooth (even though Nexus 4 itself is smooth as hell), feature-rich, battery-friendly, and most importantly - bug free.
I don't know if ctfrommn is reading this (probably not), but just in case he does - you rock. You've made my experience with this device probably 10X better than with any other ROM.
I've read what you said on the official post and I agree that some people need to just shut the hell up and be thankful for what they get.
If you love something, keep on doing it, and let the nay sayers kiss your ass while doing it.
You did a great job on this ROM, and I'm sure a lot of people around here think so as well.
Thank you for your incredible work. I hope I'll get the chance to test and use your and your friends' creations in the future.

can some1 tell me what happened? my n4 is on lg service center, so i didnt check xda :/

^^^^ psx thread was all filled with posts like 'ohh i love this rom, this if do fast so smooth' and there were other posts all having complaints.1000's of posts like these..dev got tired of reading all those useless posts.. warned again and again but nobody listened.. No idea what happened yesterday but I'm sure that dev's mind should've snapped for sure after watching helplessly at the state of thread...
Anyways.. It shouldn't be a problem If There sources keep on getting updated.
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What happened? He just closed the thread or has the rom been discontinued?
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GFXi0N said:
What happened? He just closed the thread or has the rom been discontinued?
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He closed the thread, development will continue on a private forum.

That is really sad man...really really sad
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i can't believe now psx is a private thing... except someone from the inside can 'leak' it to us regular users...
sorry for my bad english

Wow, I just downloaded and flashed the latest mako Rom from PSX. It's upsetting to see they took that route, their rom is turning out to be my favorite.
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^ same. Just found it a couple days ago as the drama began. Shame.
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infiltrata said:
He closed the thread, development will continue on a private forum.
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Yes at least that's what he hinted at...
A thread can always be reopened, let's hope for the best!
Buuut I would much rather if this thread was used to report about problems/show off performance/etc of PSX instead of just feeling sorry about the other thread. For example, has any of you given a chance to ART? What did you think about it?

why is psx backing off

Sturdy_99 said:
why is psx backing off
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read some posts on the first page, I think someone answered that already.

Following silently as always!
Here's to hoping PSX is resurrected soon!

Sturdy_99 said:
why is psx backing off
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read some posts on the first page, I think someone answered that already.
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Hahaha yet people don't read n just ask questions... LOL this is reason

m_harsh said:
Hahaha yet people don't read n just ask questions... LOL this is reason
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but who will find out an answer from a thread of thousands of posts......except the main post

Like XDA But On Steroids

Hello everyone,
I've been pondering over some project to divert my time on and well recently I've begun to notice the somewhat unorganized mess XDA has become. So I thought of the fabulous idea of creating a new website made strictly for ROMs, Kernels, Rooting, & Unlocking Bootloaders. The website would have separate sections for each device, then differing versions of the device, then for android version, and then finally for type of development. For example AT&T Galaxy S3 CM12 rom would be found under Galaxy S3>AT&T>Lollipop>Roms>Cyanogenmod 12.
Get it? Super organized, super easy to find things.
What do you guys think? Is this something worth investing my time in? Or should I just give u on this little project? Be brutally honest please. After all there is no point on building a website that nobody will ever use.

More steps but easier finds. Nice.

Sounds good, especially if you can get support from xda.

CyanogenMod 11 listed under jellybean ROMs?

Your biggest issue is people dont really leave xda. Developer wise most are keen to stay here because support and friends are here i imagine. Also logistically trying to support even half the phones xda does and have it so organised into just what the phones are compatible with, along with paired Q&A + general threads would be immensely time consuming and would require more than a few people to keep up with the flow. Not even considering user mistakes with roms added in the wrong forum. While it would be a good idea i wouldnt attempt it. The mods are always willing to listen to new ideas to help keep the forums tidy though. Maybe try help out closer to home?
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Shut your mouth XD

developer209 said:
Shut your mouth XD
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@1BadWolf

developer209 said:
Shut your mouth XD
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@1BadWolf

an example
CoolApps said:
More steps but easier finds. Nice.
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Jesse72 said:
Sounds good, especially if you can get support from xda.
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CyanogenMod 11 listed under jellybean ROMs?
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http://organizedxda.weebly.com/

developer209 said:
Shut your mouth XD
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@1BadWolf
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Hahaha, sorry. It was like there was a little devil sitting on my shoulder saying "C'mon, do it! It'll be funny!"

1BadWolf said:
Hahaha, sorry. It was like there was a little devil sitting on my shoulder saying "Do it! It'll be funny!"
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Lol I corrected it in the OP just for your devil :b

Good luck with your site, but you're not promoting it here, as per forum rules.
Thread closed.

Cataclysm

Folks - I've read great things about the Cataclyst ROM but found the official thread on it had been closed by an XDA moderator. If I install it and run into issues, would there be some people supporting it and what thread?
Thx

sam008 said:
Folks - I've read great things about the Cataclyst ROM but found the official thread on it had been closed by an XDA moderator. If I install it and run into issues, would there be some people supporting it and what thread?
Thx
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No. Hence the closed thread. The dev left XDA.

ouch so i guess no further versions of his rom then?

sam008 said:
ouch so i guess no further versions of his rom then?
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I don't want to sound like a douche... But re-read my last post.
*IF* he's releasing still, it's not on XDA and directing people via post to anywhere off-site is at least frowned upon (if not prohibited).

Yoinx said:
*IF* he's releasing still, it's not on XDA and directing people via post to anywhere off-site is at least frowned upon (if not prohibited).
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Maybe we should let @atl4ntis know that we love to see him back in whatever XDA thread or XDA (sub)forum. Not only for his work, but also because he is a helpfull and nice person.
Possibly his XDA account is still active.
We could mention him in our posts so he knows we do not forget. At this moment we have to respect his decision because he is hurt.
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NLBeev said:
Maybe we should let @atl4ntis know that we love to see him back in whatever XDA thread or XDA (sub)forum. Not only for his work, but also because he is a helpfull and nice person.
Possibly his XDA account is still active.
We could mention him in our posts so he knows we do not forget. At this moment we have to respect his decision because he is hurt.
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The mention might work unless like most of the more senior members he has mention notifications turned off.

Can anybody please tell me what happened?
His rom is perfect as it's stock with just enough amount of customization.
Sad that he left.

jk0l said:
Can anybody please tell me what happened?
His rom is perfect as it's stock with just enough amount of customization.
Sad that he left.
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As I understand it there was a dispute with another dev and that lead to a dispute about whether or not his rom was original work. XDA moved it to the non original section and he decided to abandon the project.
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TonikJDK said:
As I understand it there was a dispute with another dev and that lead to a dispute about whether or not his rom was original work. XDA moved it to the non original section and he decided to abandon the project.
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Here in the Netherlands @atl4ntis was popular. The Dutch press praised him for his 'cataclysm mod'.

The bulk of the problem was that he claimed his work was all original, yet refused to provide evidence to back his claims. Before anyone starts in on the "Apache license doesn't require sources" line, I know he was within his rights to refuse to show his sources. However, if you don't show sources, how can you reasonably expect anyone to believe your work is original?
The XDA staff made the right call here. If you refuse to prove your work is original, your work doesn't get to be located in the Original Android Development forum. In any event, this will be a moot point going forward as all new devices will only have one development section. That said, the mods and/or admin should be going through all device forums that have both an Android Development and Original Android Development subforum, and merging the two subforums into one.

sam008 said:
Folks - I've read great things about the Cataclyst ROM but found the official thread on it had been closed by an XDA moderator. If I install it and run into issues, would there be some people supporting it and what thread?
Thx
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You can go here; we'll be glad to help.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/general/info-cataclysm-mod-dead-t3307703

sam008 said:
... If I install it and run into issues, would there be some people supporting it and what thread...
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=http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3307703