As we all note kitkat has been out for 2 days
My quick impression is that it isn't good
LAAAAAG in launcher (Not Lockscreen nor apps) (GPU Rendering isn'T very effective)
Battery is being killed
Camera seems to worse in low light condition (Will post an comparason later) and slower
No update for the stock apps (Xperia blog has those)
Post your Impressions below How do you feel
Update:In NUT's recovery don't enter TeamWinRecovery for me it caused an refuse boot
had to connect in download mode (Without flashing anything)
Opening PhilzTouch recovery and booted from there to system
I find it quite responsive after the initial lag in the settings menu and bad battery life.
What's really annoying me though is that I can't find a tweak which enables expanded desktop properly. Despite KitKat apparently natively supporting expanded desktop mode, Gravity Box for some reason doesn't want to work properly. It worked perfectly in 4.2.2. So I'm hoping someone can make a working version.
Another test
if you use the voice message of FB Messenger your mic gets locked
and you will have to restart your Phone to make it work
i've had kit kat for two days now on my xperia zr no root, locked bootloader. I have no lags, everything works quick just like 4,3. The only issue is that google play services drains battery like crazy (at this very moment is on 87% on battery use ) :/
There is an xposed mod
Called Force imersive mode try it
John98Zakaria said:
Another test
if you use the voice message of FB Messenger your mic gets locked
and you will have to restart your Phone to make it work
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^
THIS.... the one single reason for me to revert back to CM11
chewdaniel said:
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THIS.... the one single reason for me to revert back to CM11
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What Rom? I am thinking of switching ?
Carbon or BeanStack ?
kitkat
I don't see/feel any problems on my C5503
running smooth
Any Major difference in terms of functionality between 4.4 and 4.3 except the Theme Color? If not I'll stick with 4.3 itself:victory:.
Also Please provide the Walkman, Gallery and Movies APP Version in 4.4
I'm kinda surprised with all ur reviews here coz I don't have any lag issues whatsoever.
I'm using a prerooted version of .230 on my C5502.
The phone is responsive, I got a decent antutu score of around 21225 and the battery barely drains.. I had a perfectly flat battery graph for abt 4 n a half hours (of course I wasn't using the phone but that also means it's going into the appropriate power mode effectively). And even when I was using it, I got a decent full day of use out of it.
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TOO ALL WITH LAG ISSUES!
wipe data after upgrade! it's a most do!
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What Rom? I am thinking of switching ?
Carbon or BeanStack ?
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Carbon is good but Mokee is officially supported and offers much better functions IMO eg. split screen screen recording and awesome handy shortcuts from the recents menu... i am using stock 4.4.2 sony for now but i am already missing Mokee..
in any case if you want to move back to cm/asop/akop i would recommend Mokee but don't get me wrong i still love Carbon Rom.
I think i'm getting 20% less battery time on sony kk
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camileind said:
i've had kit kat for two days now on my xperia zr no root, locked bootloader. I have no lags, everything works quick just like 4,3. The only issue is that google play services drains battery like crazy (at this very moment is on 87% on battery use ) :/
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I noticed lag and heating issues at first install but if you leave it for a while it seems like it fixes itself.. I would say it uses about 20% more battery than maybe a cm rom..
At first I thought that being with my own home made rooted version was the cause of the lag. In the z forum I read about wiping data and factory reset and also reboot a couple of times. I have to say that the lag is gone. I like the Kitkat version so far. I even made it deodexed and put z2 app in the app folder even that works. So if you can find the new updated apps it is possible to get them working.
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I Reflashed with Flashtool With Wipe Data
and then a system restore Everything is fine now (Even without touching GPU rendering)
early morning rant
How do I feel?
Honestly, as free beta tester for Google that's how.
I'm not even considering updating to stock KK, yet. Would rather move to some fine working custom ROM like Carbon (need to check first if VPN is working) or CM.
- It used to be, flash stock, one-touch root and voila.
- Now, it's TA backup, BL unlock/relock, flash, recovery, flash, flash, tweak this, mod that, xposed, gpu render, battery drain, oh lag, oh camera is slower, oh more emoticons, OH COME ON!!
I know it's not Sony fault but those hipsters from Google.
With killing external SD support, at the end and in the future, it smells that stock Android will work flawlessly ONLY on Google hardware. That's a pure BS.
You mean Mobiles with no SD card*
Yeah, basically all Nexuses, mob/tab. Good read here
I think it helps to keep product life cycle short. The Apple philosophy.
Okay, after a few days use I'm getting major lag when unlocking the phone. When I input my pattern, the phone responds with the vibrations like 3 seconds later, and THEN it unlocks. After that it's completely fine, and feels a lot snappier than 4.2.2. Does anyone else have the same problem?
MQuant said:
Okay, after a few days use I'm getting major lag when unlocking the phone. When I input my pattern, the phone responds with the vibrations like 3 seconds later, and THEN it unlocks. After that it's completely fine, and feels a lot snappier than 4.2.2. Does anyone else have the same problem?
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Mine is great here
I have pattern and unlock it is very fast. no lag at all.
My phone 5502 is working flawlessly. No lag and no battery drain. didn't want to root so i don't risk loosing my apps and data. i upgrade directly by flashing an ftf file over 4.3 with flashtool and no wipe.
Related
Third Android phone and also 3rd older phone I've upgraded to 4.x. I basically went from stock, rooted, switched to new BL and fixed internal storage all using the O2X AIO tool, and finally flashed Slimkat (this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2551925).
It was great for about 30 minutes but then started to slow down badly so I froze a bunch of packages I don't use and have frozen on other devices without issue (using performance control tools). Speed went back up. But 30 minutes later it's back in the crapper. We're talking 30 seconds from power button to lock screen showing up. Stock camera takes a good 2 minutes to be ready to take a picture. Just now I was trying to set something in GPS Test and literally the statusbar clock was at 11:00 until at least 11:03 before I was like ok battery pull.
Anyone have any suggestions? Did I miss a step? I've been through all the related posts and everyone seems to love Slimkat. I'm coming from phones even older than this so I'm used to slow but come on...
Really appreciate any advice! Thanks!
Edit: I should mention I have installed FB Messenger with some modified permissions, Gmail, Now Browser, Root Browser, and Touchpal keyboard... That's all.
Hi. You should try to change to dalvik. ART is terrible for our phone!
Dalvik is default in the latest build
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Dalvik is default in the latest build
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I think that the memory is maybe running full, FB Messenger isn't always the best on memory usage/Battery usage and about the other apps I dont know, But There are apps which are resyncing, rerunning and which stay in background so it doesn't completely closes even if you do so.
Thanks for your reply! Actually afterward I switched OOM to aggressive (or something more aggressive, can't remember). Seems to be a lot better. I don't care about battery, I just want speeeeeeeed Oddly enough I still need to "double tap" the power button (!) to get it to wake. Weirdest thing.
If you're finding Slimkat at all slow then stop suffering and flash CM11 here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2769730
So much better! I used the 7/16 M1 version. Brilliant so far. GPS (my no.1 need) is also very fast.
But the date of you post ...
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leekohlbradley said:
If you're finding Slimkat at all slow then stop suffering and flash CM11 here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2769730
So much better! I used the 7/16 M1 version. Brilliant so far. GPS (my no.1 need) is also very fast.
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Sure ? Do u think that latest builds are fast ?
I haven't tried anything later than the June release by TonyP... There are other ppl putting out weeklies or something but honestly I'm looking for stable not bleeding edge
But the date of my post?
leekohlbradley said:
But the date of my post?
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When I red first time, it was wrong (some day in 2007); now is right.
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leekohlbradley said:
Third Android phone and also 3rd older phone I've upgraded to 4.x. I basically went from stock, rooted, switched to new BL and fixed internal storage all using the O2X AIO tool, and finally flashed Slimkat (this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2551925).
It was great for about 30 minutes but then started to slow down badly so I froze a bunch of packages I don't use and have frozen on other devices without issue (using performance control tools). Speed went back up. But 30 minutes later it's back in the crapper. We're talking 30 seconds from power button to lock screen showing up. Stock camera takes a good 2 minutes to be ready to take a picture. Just now I was trying to set something in GPS Test and literally the statusbar clock was at 11:00 until at least 11:03 before I was like ok battery pull.
Anyone have any suggestions? Did I miss a step? I've been through all the related posts and everyone seems to love Slimkat. I'm coming from phones even older than this so I'm used to slow but come on...
Really appreciate any advice! Thanks!
Edit: I should mention I have installed FB Messenger with some modified permissions, Gmail, Now Browser, Root Browser, and Touchpal keyboard... That's all.
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I had the same problem, so I had to uninstall it.:crying:
Q&A for [ROM] [4.4.4] [OFFICIAL] LiquidSmooth v3.2 - i9305
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Thanks for understanding and for helping to keep XDA neat and tidy!
No nightly's?
Hi,
I am currently on the Liquid Smooth 20.10. go, but I am surprised that no new versions are on the go. Is it so that only a new Nightly appears if there are changes?
4.1.2 bootloader
Hello,
Do you know if it is any problems if i upgrade to this rom with a 4.1.2 bootloader ?
Thank you
LouCroquant said:
Hello,
Do you know if it is any problems if i upgrade to this rom with a 4.1.2 bootloader ?
Thank you
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Nope, not any
dark'em said:
Nope, not any
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Thanks a lot
Remove battery for restart.
Hello,
When i charging my battery power off, i can't restart with the power button.
I must remove my battery for restart.
Somebody have this same problem ?
Thx
cannot install liquidsmooth rom
i'm still new in installing roms. i was able to install rxtreme rom, i would like to try the LS rom. i downloaded the latest nightly rom, and it prompted installation aborted.
i compared the rxtreme rom that i downloaded, it was 1.2gb. but for the LS, it was just over 200mb. i hope someone here can provide me detailed instructions on how to install Liquidsmooth rom on my s3 i9305.
systemui crashes
Hi guys,i just installed the rom and after the reboot i enter the pin code and that message about systemui pops up every 3 seconds.
EDIT:SO i installed the previus version and everything seems fine exept some random camera issues and the notifications
swipe to left functions most of the times doesnt work or maybe it has to do with spesific apps.Can i upgrade to the latest nightly version without doing a hard reset?
jerikice said:
i'm still new in installing roms. i was able to install rxtreme rom, i would like to try the LS rom. i downloaded the latest nightly rom, and it prompted installation aborted.
i compared the rxtreme rom that i downloaded, it was 1.2gb. but for the LS, it was just over 200mb. i hope someone here can provide me detailed instructions on how to install Liquidsmooth rom on my s3 i9305.
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Read the instructions at the beginning of this thread. It's all there.
It is a little different to rxtreme.
You will need to download the ROM and GApps. I'd download Milestone version - read earlier posts for location.
Go to recovery, flash the ROM then GApps.
Hope all goes well.
Sent from my GT-I9305
LouCroquant said:
Hello,
When i charging my battery power off, i can't restart with the power button.
I must remove my battery for restart.
Somebody have this same problem ?
Thx
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Yes, but its not case of the rom, it's case of the old battery on any AOSP/CM gave me the exact same problem, I buyed a new battery and no more problems, it's all ok.
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dark'em said:
Yes, but its not case of the rom, it's case of the old battery on any AOSP/CM gave me the exact same problem, I buyed a new battery and no more problems, it's all ok.
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Thank you for your reply. My battery is original , it has to come from that.
LliquidSmooth Cameria Issued
I want to thank you for this great Rom, and after many many thank you thoughts i want to ask you if there is something i can do about the camera. After taking 4 pictures camera freezes and can't connect anymore. Thanks again!
Review of the liquid smooth i9305 ROM 4.4.4
I've been using this ROM for the last four months and my verdict is...
...it's ****. S. H. I. T.
So bad that I've gone back to the stock ROM. Maybe it's because the i9305 is a relatively unknown phone (compared to the i9300). Nevertheless it's evident here that little effort has gone into research and testing of this ROM. Here are all the issues I came across during my usage of what is the most terrible android experience I've had.
Battery life: This ROM basically chews up the battery faster than a fat kid in a candy store. Seriously sit back and watch, throughout the day, as battery percentage slips lower and lower until it knocks itself out. And then that brings me to the next problem,
The phone will not charge when the battery is completely dead (phone off): That's right the phone has to be on, before this ROM realises that it should be charging the phone.
Camera: The camera will take about 4 shots, sometimes 10, if you're lucky before it completely fails. The only way around this is by performing a soft or hard reboot. Super fun when you're at a party and when taking a group image, the camera ****s itself. Even with third party camera apps the problem persists.
Microphone: I don't know how a ROM could possibly **** up the microphone, but this ROM succeeds in doing just that. Any recording performed sounds like a 1950s CB radio. This is an experience that you force on everyone you call by having the audacity to use this ****ty ROM.
Multiple Application Incompatibilities: Several big ticket applications fail to run with LiquidCrap. For example Skype refuses to initiate and Viber will not make video calls. That leaves Google Hangouts which for some reason decides to induce a 4 second lag in every word in your conversation.
Video playblack: Wow a custom ROM that refuses to easily work with flash video. The developers solution here is to force you to use dolphin viewer to browse and run some flash mods to work. Unfortunately none of that works. And it's not just flash that refuses to run. Any HTML5 gif or video will not play. Then there are some videos where only the sound will play but nothing else. Good luck watching anything on youtube which is not accessible by the youtube app. Which surprisingly works well.
Random restarts: Oh were you typing in something important? Would be a shame if I just...restarted right now.
Screen Rotation: Lags.
So if you're 13 years old and get a kick out of changing colors in status bars; by all means get this ROM. If you actually have responsibilities and need your phone....to work. Then avoid this ROM at all costs. Hell, avoid every custom ROM for the i9305. Unless it's a slightly modified stock Samsung. This as this there's less chance that something is royally ****ed as in the case here.
desmunda said:
I've been using this ROM for the last four months and my verdict is...
...it's ****. S. H. I. T.
So bad that I've gone back to the stock ROM. Maybe it's because the i9305 is a relatively unknown phone (compared to the i9300). Nevertheless it's evident here that little effort has gone into research and testing of this ROM. Here are all the issues I came across during my usage of what is the most terrible android experience I've had.
Battery life: This ROM basically chews up the battery faster than a fat kid in a candy store. Seriously sit back and watch, throughout the day, as battery percentage slips lower and lower until it knocks itself out. And then that brings me to the next problem,
The phone will not charge when the battery is completely dead (phone off): That's right the phone has to be on, before this ROM realises that it should be charging the phone.
Camera: The camera will take about 4 shots, sometimes 10, if you're lucky before it completely fails. The only way around this is by performing a soft or hard reboot. Super fun when you're at a party and when taking a group image, the camera ****s itself. Even with third party camera apps the problem persists.
Microphone: I don't know how a ROM could possibly **** up the microphone, but this ROM succeeds in doing just that. Any recording performed sounds like a 1950s CB radio. This is an experience that you force on everyone you call by having the audacity to use this ****ty ROM.
Multiple Application Incompatibilities: Several big ticket applications fail to run with LiquidCrap. For example Skype refuses to initiate and Viber will not make video calls. That leaves Google Hangouts which for some reason decides to induce a 4 second lag in every word in your conversation.
Video playblack: Wow a custom ROM that refuses to easily work with flash video. The developers solution here is to force you to use dolphin viewer to browse and run some flash mods to work. Unfortunately none of that works. And it's not just flash that refuses to run. Any HTML5 gif or video will not play. Then there are some videos where only the sound will play but nothing else. Good luck watching anything on youtube which is not accessible by the youtube app. Which surprisingly works well.
Random restarts: Oh were you typing in something important? Would be a shame if I just...restarted right now.
Screen Rotation: Lags.
So if you're 13 years old and get a kick out of changing colors in status bars; by all means get this ROM. If you actually have responsibilities and need your phone....to work. Then avoid this ROM at all costs. Hell, avoid every custom ROM for the i9305. Unless it's a slightly modified stock Samsung. This as this there's less chance that something is royally ****ed as in the case here.
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don't say avoid every custom rom ! There are great roms for i9305 (cm slimkat nameless rr ...)
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Hi Guys! Im fairly new, I only flashed about 10 roms. Using this rom for 5 days now, I have a lot of problems, bugs. But I want to give it another try, because I heard very good things about this rom. so...
garbled "mosaic like" graphics on locksreens notifications only when Im moving them with my fingers
garbled notification bar icons when running tinder
strange scrolling in play/own apps during app updating - app rectangles in the listing seems to detach from the scrolling background, moving slower/faster.
various gfx glitches too fast or short to recall
camera is unusable, ugly FCs, "cant connect"s, even reboots, or phone freezed up for several seconds. using power button release seems to make it worse.
it was clean install, full wipe (FR), + cache before and after flashing. (Philz Touch)
installed:
LS-KK-MileStone-3.2-i9305.zip
Liquid_gapps.4.4.4.build.8.1.zip
I came from stock KK, it was the NEE version (I9305XXUFNL1_I9305NEEFOA1_I9305XXUFOA1_HOME). and some others before that.
Can I make an "even cleaner" install...? Can it be some things left from other roms causing these problems?
Or any advice, so it would work like on your devices?
thx in advance
ps: sorry for the previous post
Hi guys, I have been gone through previous thread but still can't find a proper way to fix the charging animation problem. When turn off my phone and charge it I can't the animation....Do I need to try other Roms?
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Hi Guys! Im fairly new, I only flashed about 10 roms. Using this rom for 5 days now, I have a lot of problems, bugs. But I want to give it another try, because I heard very good things about this rom. so...
garbled "mosaic like" graphics on locksreens notifications only when Im moving them with my fingers
garbled notification bar icons when running tinder
strange scrolling in play/own apps during app updating - app rectangles in the listing seems to detach from the scrolling background, moving slower/faster.
various gfx glitches too fast or short to recall
camera is unusable, ugly FCs, "cant connect"s, even reboots, or phone freezed up for several seconds. using power button release seems to make it worse.
it was clean install, full wipe (FR), + cache before and after flashing. (Philz Touch)
installed:
LS-KK-MileStone-3.2-i9305.zip
Liquid_gapps.4.4.4.build.8.1.zip
I came from stock KK, it was the NEE version (I9305XXUFNL1_I9305NEEFOA1_I9305XXUFOA1_HOME). and some others before that.
Can I make an "even cleaner" install...? Can it be some things left from other roms causing these problems?
Or any advice, so it would work like on your devices?
thx in advance
ps: sorry for the previous post
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Have you had any luck on sorting your problems out? I've found this ROM to be amazing.
It's fast, smooth and everything works well.
I've played with lollipop ROMs but they have issues so keep coming back. Though when aicp 5.1 is sorted, it is a decent option; very fast and smooth.
Anyway I am using TWRP 2.8.5.0 recovery and stock kernel that came with the ROM. I do a full advanced wipe them factory wipe. I also use SuperSU.
If you're still having issues you could store your files in an external SD card, totally format your internal storage and start again from scratch.
Hope that helps.
Sent from my GT-I9305 using Tapatalk
Hi! thx for the answer, but I did everything, apart from I left below. What do you mean by total format? How its done, with what app, and how the carrier/region etc related content is put back after that? I have latest philz touch, and I do dalvik+cache+full wipe before AND after each flash. Im not concerned about my files, everything is on ExtSD and cloud.
Yes the rom is much cooler than CM for the first look, but after 5 days heavy use I got serious problems just like the angry guy mentioned a few post above. after I moved in all my apps and stuff, it lost its smoothness, FCs, and hard battery drain with hot phone.
But the main thing was after I wrote my post, I realized that this rom is not maintained anymore, which is a problem for the 9305. U gotta use what is maintained, so the last day was so bad with this rom, I went back to CM immediately! Which is a dream in simplicity, speed, and battery life, and the latest only few days old!
of course Im still interested in the total format you mentioned, and in this rom, if it gets sorted out...
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Have you had any luck on sorting your problems out? I've found this ROM to be amazing.
It's fast, smooth and everything works well.
If you're still having issues you could store your files in an external SD card, totally format your internal storage and start again from scratch.
Hope that helps.
Sent from my GT-I9305 using Tapatalk
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kbuss said:
Hi! thx for the answer, but I did everything, apart from I left below. What do you mean by total format? How its done, with what app, and how the carrier/region etc related content is put back after that? I have latest philz touch, and I do dalvik+cache+full wipe before AND after each flash. Im not concerned about my files, everything is on ExtSD and cloud.
Yes the rom is much cooler than CM for the first look, but after 5 days heavy use I got serious problems just like the angry guy mentioned a few post above. after I moved in all my apps and stuff, it lost its smoothness, FCs, and hard battery drain with hot phone.
But the main thing was after I wrote my post, I realized that this rom is not maintained anymore, which is a problem for the 9305. U gotta use what is maintained, so the last day was so bad with this rom, I went back to CM immediately! Which is a dream in simplicity, speed, and battery life, and the latest only few days old!
of course Im still interested in the total format you mentioned, and in this rom, if it gets sorted out...
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There are different ways to fully format your internal drive but you will need to backup any important data files to your SD card first. A full format will wipe it clean. I don't use philz these days but from memory you mount system, data etc and format them. Other options are files like those provided by Agni developer for F2FS will wipe it clean as well. As I use twrp it is different again.
I've been on this ROM for months now. It's fast, smooth, no FCs, and with decent use through the day I get 2 full days out of the battery before a recharge.
I use Greenify app, turn off fast dormancy and if there are drainage issues it's generally about finding the rogue app. Titanium backup is another must have app to backup and restore apps. It makes things so easy.
It's not maintained as you say but I don't see that being relevant; it's a well cooked 4.4.4 ROM! You can use other options such as F2FS +/- ART to tweak performance.
The only ROM I'm playing with at present is the 5.1 aicp which is super fast. Only had bug with Apex launcher my launcher of choice.
Have fun! Cheers
Sent from my Xperia Tablet Z Wi-Fi using Tapatalk
From 2 months I am trying to make roms for ubl work on my phone,but they just don't. I have a super slow phone when I install them, very unresponsive touchscreen... Please I have no more things I can try. In these two months I tried everything. Locked bootloader roms are better, but they still aren't that smooth and after a few hours I need to restart the phone, because I get unresponsive touchscreen again. I really want kitkat on my phone, because stock sucks too much with so low ram. I beg you guys for help. I am exhausted of trying and trying
rdlegy said:
From 2 months I am trying to make roms for ubl work on my phone,but they just don't. I have a super slow phone when I install them, very unresponsive touchscreen... Please I have no more things I can try. In these two months I tried everything. Locked bootloader roms are better, but they still aren't that smooth and after a few hours I need to restart the phone, because I get unresponsive touchscreen again. I really want kitkat on my phone, because stock sucks too much with so low ram. I beg you guys for help. I am exhausted of trying and trying
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Please calm down and don't spam the forum with copy paste posts everywhere as it won't get you anywhere.
Regarding your problem, if you think LBL roms are better then why don't you stick with them as they are equivalent to UBL roms in every aspect. I am on MrSteve555 M12 and can say it is smooth as silk, so what's all the fuss about?
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Cm11 is overall good, but all roms have a little lag when pulling down notification drawer. It is not stutter it is lag that you can see it... Hmm any fix?
rdlegy said:
Cm11 is overall good, but all roms have a little lag when pulling down notification drawer. It is not stutter it is lag that you can see it... Hmm any fix?
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Never seen this lag in the slightest.
I also have lag in the menu in the ui. Maybe it is from my phone? It is a little noticeable lag. Phone is working alright with 4.3, but with 4.4 it sucks
rdlegy said:
I also have lag in the menu in the ui. Maybe it is from my phone? It is a little noticeable lag. Phone is working alright with 4.3, but with 4.4 it sucks
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Ive run PA, Omni, PAC and CM11 and none of them have lag on quick settings or settings once the ROMs 'settled in' which is usually a few hours after install when everythings run and updated and synced fully. Is this lag happening for you on a clean phone with minimal gapps and no other apps installed?
Oblox said:
Ive run PA, Omni, PAC and CM11 and none of them have lag on quick settings or settings once the ROMs 'settled in' which is usually a few hours after install when everythings run and updated and synced fully. Is this lag happening for you on a clean phone with minimal gapps and no other apps installed?
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Yes. I don't have any luck with phones. I am very sensitive to lag and I'm stuck with this phone 1 year more- good hardware- ****ty software. I like the phone, but no the software.
rdlegy said:
Yes. I don't have any luck with phones. I am very sensitive to lag and I'm stuck with this phone 1 year more- good hardware- ****ty software. I like the phone, but no the software.
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Use a small gapps package. It does wonders, as long as you do the following steps in the correct order:
1. Format /system.
2. Wipe data, cache and dalvik cache.
3. Install ROM.
4. Install Gapps.
5. Reboot and leave the phone alone for at least half an hour.
6. Run through set-up (if required)
7. Leave phone alone for another hour.
8. Enjoy.
Google Search seems to be a big problem for performance, even on Nexus phones. The easiest is to get a package which does not include it (Velvet.apk it is called, and it is found in /system/priv-app).
I recommend Paranoid Android's 'pico' gapps. Google it to find the post on XDA by TKruzze.
gwhite5 said:
Use a small gapps package. It does wonders, as long as you do the following steps in the correct order:
1. Format /system.
2. Wipe data, cache and dalvik cache.
3. Install ROM.
4. Install Gapps.
5. Reboot and leave the phone alone for at least half an hour.
6. Run through set-up (if required)
7. Leave phone alone for another hour.
8. Enjoy.
Google Search seems to be a big problem for performance, even on Nexus phones. The easiest is to get a package which does not include it (Velvet.apk it is called, and it is found in /system/priv-app).
I recommend Paranoid Android's 'pico' gapps. Google it to find the post on XDA by TKruzze.
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I use the same gapps. I have left the phone 1 day and I still see lag in ui and when pulling down notification drawer :crying: My old phone didn't lag that much and had twice as weaker specs :crying:
rdlegy said:
I use the same gapps. I have left the phone 1 day and I still see lag in ui and when pulling down notification drawer :crying: My old phone didn't lag that much and had twice as weaker specs :crying:
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A month ago I had the same issue, but after using that formula it feels like a brand new phone now.
gwhite5 said:
A month ago I had the same issue, but after using that formula it feels like a brand new phone now.
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I really want a fast phone. The moto g is so fast and smooth, but my phone isn't even with any rom :crying: I can't do anything more. I tried everything and I gave up after 2 months and 50+ hours flashing roms and trying and trying different ways
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I really want a fast phone. The moto g is so fast and smooth, but my phone isn't even with any rom :crying: I can't do anything more. I tried everything and I gave up after 2 months and 50+ hours flashing roms and trying and trying different ways
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Tell me exactly what you've done for your current set-up. Step-by-step.
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Tell me exactly what you've done for your current set-up. Step-by-step.
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I will do the formula you told me. I will flash stock .ftf then I won't boot the phone and I will flash williams kernel v7 just to get recovery. I will start the phone and go in to recovery. I will do the formula you told me with cm11 build by mr. Steve and I will hope the formula will work
rdlegy said:
I really want a fast phone. The moto g is so fast and smooth, but my phone isn't even with any rom :crying: I can't do anything more. I tried everything and I gave up after 2 months and 50+ hours flashing roms and trying and trying different ways
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I remember running LagFix off of the Google Play Store. Someone recommended it to me. What it does is it enables TRIM on your /system, /data, and /cache partition, which, in theory should work and improve performance two-fold. It applies to the SP, which uses NAND flash to store these partitions and therefore would suffer from the afore mentioned symptom.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.grilledmonkey.lagfix
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rdlegy said:
I will do the formula you told me. I will flash stock .ftf then I won't boot the phone and I will flash williams kernel v7 just to get recovery. I will start the phone and go in to recovery. I will do the formula you told me with cm11 build by mr. Steve and I will hope the formula will work
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Don't worry if the CyanogenMod set-up app is REALLY slow, crashes, or skips steps, it happens to everyone, because the cache rebuild hasn't begun yet.
rdlegy said:
I really want a fast phone. The moto g is so fast and smooth, but my phone isn't even with any rom :crying: I can't do anything more. I tried everything and I gave up after 2 months and 50+ hours flashing roms and trying and trying different ways
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Try MrSteve build, if it fails then I guess it's a hardware issue
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I sort of think that it is all with your mind. If you like, would you share a video showing the "lag" you've mentioned in those mentioned areas (notification sliding lag, settings lag) if you are currently running CM11. I would like to actually see it.
I would like to see a video recording of your phone by using another camera, not a screen recording or cast directly from your ROM.
With your video, people will finally could see how the "lag" is and decide if it is the normal lag, or supposedly a problem of your phone.
About touch screen sensitivity, I was unable to find a thread about the same problem (the one before you started a solution thread). I've searched like mad through the General forum. It contains a build.prop modification fix. If you could get me a link to it, gosh I would appreciate it so much and will show you to the right direction
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Try MrSteve build, if it fails then I guess it's a hardware issue
Sent from my Xperia SP using XDA Free mobile app
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TechnoSparks said:
I sort of think that it is all with your mind. If you like, would you share a video showing the "lag" you've mentioned in those mentioned areas (notification sliding lag, settings lag) if you are currently running CM11. I would like to actually see it.
I would like to see a video recording of your phone by using another camera, not a screen recording or cast directly from your ROM.
With your video, people will finally could see how the "lag" is and decide if it is the normal lag, or supposedly a problem of your phone.
About touch screen sensitivity, I was unable to find a thread about the same problem (the one before you started a solution thread). I've searched like mad through the General forum. It contains a build.prop modification fix. If you could get me a link to it, gosh I would appreciate it so much and will show you to the right direction
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I will try the formula. If it doesn't work I will try to film a video. Maybe it is a hardware issue, because when installing apps wtih 4.3 rom phone laggs a lot and on 4.4 does the same, but the lag is much lower when installing apps
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I will try the formula. If it doesn't work I will try to film a video. Maybe it is a hardware issue, because when installing apps wtih 4.3 rom phone laggs a lot and on 4.4 does the same, but the lag is much lower when installing apps
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Well while installing apps it does lag but after that it just glides.
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I did all those steps. I get same performance. Maybe this is not lag I am not really sure
With themer apk its nice and smooth and also beautiful. I have from time to time touchscreen sensitivity problems. Any fix? Like 1 hour phone is goot after i lock it and unlock it touchscreen gets unsensitive and I need to restart
rdlegy said:
I did all those steps. I get same performance. Maybe this is not lag I am not really sure
With themer apk its nice and smooth and also beautiful. I have from time to time touchscreen sensitivity problems. Any fix? Like 1 hour phone is goot after i lock it and unlock it touchscreen gets unsensitive and I need to restart
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Have you tried LagFix yet? Run it and see what happens.
Plus don't use themes unless you wipe your cache afterwards: the theme modifies SystemUI.apk and therefore the cache file is incorrect.
I have Xperia Z1 and wife has Nexus 5. I am happy with Sony's apps and functionality, but performance glitches are so annoying that I even consider buying Nexus 5, which seems to me like a downgrade due camera specs and inability to extend memory. Is it possible to tweak any settings or use any ROM, that would give similar smooth performance, but leave intact Sony's camera/album and smart connect apps, stamina mode, Xperia lounge lotteries?
This is strange, what version do you have? try to install the last update 5.1.1. and do a factory reset. This phone should be faster than the nexus 5
Yeah Z1 is much smoother than N5... I like N5 only because of its closest to stock android ! Sonys UI is second!
It has recently updated to 5.1.1. Strange, for example I always have moments of unresponsiveness using Wechat, slow switching to another app or even momentarily freezes while typing text.
the lag could be due to the apps you've installed.have you tried debloating? and if that doesn't work unlock the BL,install CM12.1 and a minimal GApps package and feel the wind in your face!
Xperia z1 is much smoother and faster than nexus 5, lg g2/3, lg g4,galaxy s4,galaxy s5, which all of them had stuttering and lag and sometimes become unresponsive for few seconds, it's even faster than z2/z3 in day to day usage(app oppening speed and switching between apps). My Z1 even became lag stutter free after lollipop update(little stutter in kitkat when switching between heavy apps and ram is low, now it's gone). The only lag i get is when using chrome and visit websites that has too many ads. To fix that i use adaway
My z1 is stock, rooted,deodexed and has superusermod. with all stock bloatware and all available mods you can think of including xposed and ui is heavily modded.
Dont say this is bullshet, i know what i am talking about because i use many phones, and moat of them should be faster than z1
wilkas said:
It has recently updated to 5.1.1. Strange, for example I always have moments of unresponsiveness using Wechat, slow switching to another app or even momentarily freezes while typing text.
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I think you should just factory reset the phone. It is really easy, in settings click on "backup and recovery" or something like that and there click on factory reset. It'll erase the memory of the phone so save all you have to save before doing this. The phone we'll reboot, it takes around 5-10 min but then it'll be fresh as new.
Yeah it's very true. From my experience, i've compared my Z1 and my friend's Nexus 5. Noticeably Z1 is faster than Nexus 5 in terms of overall user interface responsiveness. Especially when you have a lot of tasks going on, Nexus 5 did stutters a little than Z1. This is just my opinion and some, i don't know about the others. You have to monitor your phone, might be software or hardware's fault.
Thank you all for answers and giving hope. I'll try resetting factory settings first, though I did that about 2 months ago to resolve low volume recording issue with Wechat with no avail. I am not yet a power user of Android and after reading just few tuts only came to a point where Flashtool successfully recognizes connected phone.
masterofnocrack: Could you give any tips on debloating? Do you mean removing unnecessary apps (I don't have such and also no games). Or removing default apps installed by Sony (I don't use some of them). Also you mentioned installing CM12.1 and a minimal GApps package. Would I loose Sony's camera app, stamina mode. And if I dont like CM, can I revert to Sonys default Android and still get updates from Sony?
Gamer4Life: To my understanding only changes you made to default Sony's Android were " rooted, deodexed and has superusermod". Could you explain / give link to what is deodexing and superuser mod?
Have you ever considered that the lag is because of one your apps? bcoz 5.1.1 was fine when i tried it.
Debloating>> Just remove all the preloaded apps you dont use either by disabling it in the settings>apps or by removing them with a root explorer after rooting the phone(ES File Explorer is cool)
CM>> Yep you can revert to stock and get updates.
If you are going to switch to CM then remember to BACKUP YOUR TA Partition before you unlock your bootloader cuz you will loose all your DRM keys on BL unlock(which means Xreality and BIONZ wont work anymore)hence you need to back up the keys if you want to switch back to stock.
Unfortunately the camera quality is inferior on CM roms and you wont get sony's camera or stamina.
PS:does your phone feel hot to the touch like its overheating?
Unlock your bootloader and try flashing some of the ROMS based on stock sony. This way, you'll get to keep the awesome camera app , at the same time getting rid of bloatware.
Something you might want to look at :
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2440565
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z1/development
Check my siggy :v (As i'm not sure if i can post links to roms)
Hi,
I have a Z3 Compact running pre-rooted Android 5.1.1 Lollipop. I got a notification about software update that i can't dismiss. i don't know if i should upgrade or not so force stopped the software update app.
What is your opinion about Marshmallow?
Are there any bugs?
Are there new features added and some features removed?
Is it worth upgrading to Mashmallow or should i keep Lollipop?
sorry i can't upgrade without user reviews
You can dismiss the update notification if you want (disable it).
MM has officially been out for only a few weeks and consequently is still full of bugs and problems.
The threads are full of the cries for help from the MM rom jumpers, oh the pain of being an early adopter.
Give it another month, by then it'll fixed.
Didgesteve said:
You can dismiss the update notification if you want (disable it).
MM has officially been out for only a few weeks and consequently is still full of bugs and problems.
The threads are full of the cries for help from the MM rom jumpers, oh the pain of being an early adopter.
Give it another month, by then it'll fixed.
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How do you disable the notification? For which app do I have to do that?
Dont update to Mm.. There is some feature that missed..like battery stamina/ultra stamina..and also the battery drain fast..
Im a z3 compact Mm user
+1 for don't do it (now)
For me I will stay for not specified time at LP (mainly because of custom kernel).
Didgesteve said:
You can dismiss the update notification if you want (disable it).
MM has officially been out for only a few weeks and consequently is still full of bugs and problems.
The threads are full of the cries for help from the MM rom jumpers, oh the pain of being an early adopter.
Give it another month, by then it'll fixed.
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Thanks. Is it safe to disable software update app?
i don't want unexpected bugs happen or boot loop
evildog1 said:
Thanks. Is it safe to disable software update app?
i don't want unexpected bugs happen or boot loop
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The next time you see a notification, hold your finger on the notification and the bar will turn black and you will see an information 'i' on the right side, press this.
This will bring up the notification option.
Alternatively, go to settings\apps\scroll to the right until >all apps > 'update centre'
Then - force stop, untick notifications, clear cache/data
You won't get any more notifications about MM and no this won't harm or damage your phone in any way. Your phone will work fine on 5.1 for years and years, it doesn't need MM
Didgesteve said:
The next time you see a notification, hold your finger on the notification and the bar will turn black and you will see an information 'i' on the right side, press this.
This will bring up the notification option.
Alternatively, go to settings\apps\scroll to the right until >all apps > 'update centre'
Then - force stop, untick notifications, clear cache/data
You won't get any more notifications about MM and no this won't harm or damage your phone in any way. Your phone will work fine on 5.1 for years and years, it doesn't need MM
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Ok i just uninstall updates, force stop, and clear data, but i could not disable the notification.
evildog1 said:
Ok i just uninstall updates, force stop, and clear data, but i could not disable the notification.
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If you have root, then go to the market and install ES Explorer
Open it, go to menu, look at the bottom 'tools'.
tick 'root explorer'
Go back to the top of the menu and find "home/device/system/app"
Look for "com.sonyericsson.updatecenter.apk"
Make a copy and save it somewhere, like Downloads.
Then delete the original in system/app.
If there is a problem you can always put the copy back in the folder, otherwise you will never get another update message again:good:
Didgesteve said:
If you have root, then go to the market and install ES Explorer
Open it, go to menu, look at the bottom 'tools'.
tick 'root explorer'
Go back to the top of the menu and find "home/device/system/app"
Look for "com.sonyericsson.updatecenter.apk"
Make a copy and save it somewhere, like Downloads.
Then delete the original in system/app.
If there is a problem you can always put the copy back in the folder, otherwise you will never get another update message again:good:
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Thanks. I just froze it using Titanium Backup
and i'm using X-plore with dual pane
Just like when Sony released 5.0 Lollipop, it was full of bugs and the battery life sucked. It wasn't until 5.1 came out that we finally got a usable ROM. Expect more of the same with MM. Wait until 6.1 is released before upgrading. Especially those who are not rooted. There's no fixes and no turning back for those users.
Sent from the only flagship device that can fit in my hand... Sony Experia Z3 Compact
Sorry to bring back an old thread but I just bought this phone secondhand and its on 5.1 and have received the update notification. Have the bugs that are in the above comments been fixed in 6.1 or is it still not worth upgrading to Marshmallow?
warzinak said:
Sorry to bring back an old thread but I just bought this phone secondhand and its on 5.1 and have received the update notification. Have the bugs that are in the above comments been fixed in 6.1 or is it still not worth upgrading to Marshmallow?
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For me, the most horrible is the delay when opening apps:
Lag manifests on this way: in response to launching app (Dialer let say) "window"/app pops up immediately but is is empty/white and only after a sec/two content shows up (for Dialer recent call list, favourites/frequent contacts, search). Minimizing app and immediately opening again is ok (it is in cache, background, memory), instant content shows up. But if I launch another app after minimizing dialer and then start dialer again - lag in Dialer is there. As if somehow Dialer is killed in background and need to relaunch again from the start (even full relaunch should not take that long anyway). Same as killing it in recent activities. All other stock apps behave this way. It is really annoying to see such a powerfull phone lags in this basic stock apps, as this doesn't happen on previous android versions (4.4.4, 5.0.2 or 5.1.1).
It would actually benefit you to DOWNGRADE to Kitkat...LP & MM are horrible on the Z3c
Fictional Reality said:
It would actually benefit you to DOWNGRADE to Kitkat...LP & MM are horrible on the Z3c
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Indeed, I bought an iPad mini, downgraded z3c to KK and life is good.
I use my phone now for what phones are meant to - calling, occasional e-mail, messaging, weather, etc. Battery life is 4..5 days. The car bluetooth shows addressbook again (did not work with LP, MM).
I use power toggles as lock screen widget for bluetooth, wifi, hotspot switch. Lock screen does not require additional swipe. All other things, in reality, work as they work with LP, MM.
For heavy use larger screen is recommended anyway - for the health of your eyes first of all.
Fictional Reality said:
It would actually benefit you to DOWNGRADE to Kitkat...LP & MM are horrible on the Z3c
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bookworth said:
Indeed, I bought an iPad mini, downgraded z3c to KK and life is good.
I use my phone now for what phones are meant to - calling, occasional e-mail, messaging, weather, etc. Battery life is 4..5 days. The car bluetooth shows addressbook again (did not work with LP, MM).
I use power toggles as lock screen widget for bluetooth, wifi, hotspot switch. Lock screen does not require additional swipe. All other things, in reality, work as they work with LP, MM.
For heavy use larger screen is recommended anyway - for the health of your eyes first of all.
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Really? What problems did LP & MM bring to the z3c? If it is just better battery then I think I will stay with LP...(unless its twice as good on KK). The camera quality is important for me, are any of them better/worse than others?
Do I just use a 23.0.1.A.5.77 FTF file from here and flash it using Flashtool as the instructions here? I have not rooted or unlocked bootloader, all stock.
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Really? What problems did LP & MM bring to the z3c? If it is just better battery then I think I will stay with LP...(unless its twice as good on KK). The camera quality is important for me, are any of them better/worse than others?
Do I just use a 23.0.1.A.5.77 FTF file from here and flash it using Flashtool as the instructions here? I have not rooted or unlocked bootloader, all stock.
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There is nothing wrong in MM.
Except for some people who do not use phone 12x7.
Since the concept ROM I was wondering why the battery gets empty even if I do nothing with it. The answer was Doze of course. Yes, I tried several ways for activating aggressive doze, but was not satisfied with these.
Then I decided to go retro and KitKat is all I really need, with its working STAMINA.
For camera I use Sony A6000 and you really can not compare real camera with phone.
If you use your phone heavily, please do not downgrade.
If you have smartwatch, please do not downgrade.
If you feel unsure about flashing, please do not downgrade.
If the warranty is dickbutt in your country - please do not downgrade.
If you still decide to downgrade, then yes, your instructions are correct.
NB! The flash will take long time. Be pacient. It seems to be stuck but it just stays in one place for 5..10 minutes and then everything is ok. I have not measured the exact time, but I was horrified at first flash - it really seemed stuck. Perhaps it is just with my phone.
Scared of MM, really?
Firstly its been out quite some time now, especially if you consider N has just been released to the Nexus range.
Stamina mode and Doze are fantastic, I get 2 days+ with my compact and it's on 24/7.
I also have audited my startup items and background apps to reduce load on then phone which pays dividends.
The initial MM upgrade didn't include Stamina but Sony have since released an update bringing it to the masses.
Your call in the end but don't let scaremongerers cloud your judgement, do some reading, reviews from good sources and make your own minds up.
I did and only issue I had, which I know probably isn't just down to MM, was the emergency dialling issue on lockscreen.
3rd party app cured that for me so now the phone doesn't sit in my pocket making random noises and dialling whoever it pleases anymore!
Fictional Reality said:
It would actually benefit you to DOWNGRADE to Kitkat...LP & MM are horrible on the Z3c
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LP running fine for me. I only have 1 bug is video playback freezing while buffering.
asmetoma said:
Stamina mode and Doze are fantastic, I get 2 days+ with my compact and it's on 24/7.
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I've got 4...5 days with KitKat, phone is also on 24/7 (but of course, I do not USE it 24/7). No root.
It's not about scare - the phone is too cheap to be scared, besides there are many new phones to choose from with really good batteries.
However, I do not feel that I should change the phone and I like when I do not have to charge it often.
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Perhaps one should take into consideration that the workload of the phones has been increased a lot during last few years. Specially if you have smart devices etc.