Hello Xperia Z users!
My friend wants to buy a new phone and because she doesn't really know about all the models she asked me.
I recommended this phone and she liked it because of the design and about being waterproof and all that goodies. Plus it's the cheapest of all the (old) flagships here.
She will keep the phone absolutely stock. No rooting no custom Roms.
I want you to tell me if this phone is good enough for everyday usage.
Also keep in mind that she's coming from an Xperia Ray which is a kinda terrible phone (for today's standards).
thank you!
The phone is ready for the bin
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I recommend the XZ also. Still a perfect phone. I'm using it for over a year now. Looks good, it's smooth and stable.
I love mine. I've had it since December 2013 and have boring but good things to say about it. The 4.4.2 update has some bugs and Google play services have an issue that kills the run time. It is apparently been an issue for a while now on many different devices. It's easy to fix if rooted.
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I would have a year ago or more but its old now. I bet this might be last software update it will receive, The Z1 exists and is now outdone by the Z2.
So this phone 2 versions behind now. So no, i would go for a Z1 or Z2 if you can afford it
If she's going to put the phone in tight pocket pants, or any other place that might flex the phone, it might lead to internal issues.
Otherwise, she has to make sure that she doesn't drain her battery to 0% as Li-Ion batteries tend to shut themselves down if they are drained too much, for which the phone has to be opened, battery removed and boosted at a service shop.
Make backups, preferably just charge the phone through the USB port and in the meantime it will make a backup.
Taking these things into account, it's a really good phone, but I would go for something else to be on the safe side.
i'm using this phone for over a year, since the day it has been released in germany.
i really cannot complain. it's by far the best phone i've ever used, and i think i'm going to use it a very long time from now on.
sure, the z1/z2 are newer, samsung s5 is maybe better....but if she just needs a good phone, not the newest one, and if she isn't planning to apply custom roms or tweak it, then why not getting a z? she doesn't seem to be a nerd or geek. why should she get a z1/z2? i've never had *any* issues with this phone. this is an awesome every-day-phone.
don't know why the pre-posters make such a fuss about charging, backups, etc.
I've had my Xperia Z for over a year now, and I still love it.
It's super fast and and is just great for daily use. The size and weight of the phone is just perfect. I don't even feel compelled to upgrade to the Z1 or Z2 because they're thicker and heavier. My hand begins to feel a little tired after just holding the Z2 for a while.
You won't have any regrets getting the Z!
I still recommend this phone. Its quite powerful device and you can do almost you want. This phone never easily dies.
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thank you all for your feedback! I really appreciate it!
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This phone is awesome.
But if you keep it stock without rooting/unlocking and custom rom it will run more better without problems. For me i got some problem after i installed custom rom and rooted...
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This phone is awesome.
But if you keep it stock without rooting/unlocking and custom rom it will run more better without problems. For me i got some problem after i installed custom rom and rooted...
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Yeah, but after a while you get some experience and knowledge and you become less problems because that. Sure if there is something new in the developing section it needs time to work properly, it's just normal but for all the other things it's helpful to have experinece.
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Yeah, but after a while you get some experience and knowledge and you become less problems because that. Sure if there is something new in the developing section it needs time to work properly, it's just normal but for all the other things it's helpful to have experinece.
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Thats right. After i knew the "root" then bricked my phone i knew after it The "FLASHTOOL" right now im very happy because i know "flashtool" . But for me... "keep clean" is still better than installing an app need root then getting bootloop or flashing zip then bootloop and always thank a ton for flashtool and the makers of flashtool and thanks to SUS and to sony:fingers-crossed:
yes as far as getting custom roms because Sony is okay with the community even though you say goodbye to your warranty (i had a bad time with that one). I here the S5 is still to be rooted. I don't know if i can wait for OEM updates and what not. the PA guys are always coming up with something fresh. So a phone thats easily root-able and everything that comes with that is a plus for me and i would recommend. Though i am jones-ing for the LG G3
Yeah the thing is the phone will not be mine and I really don't want to risk it. I know about rooting and modding and everything but I really don't wanna get involved. That's why I asked if it will be ok with stock Rom. So I guess if it comes with 4.3 I will not update it..if it comes with 4.4 I'll see what I can do.
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yes as far as getting custom roms because Sony is okay with the community even though you say goodbye to your warranty (i had a bad time with that one).
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losing warranty when using a custom rom is depending on the country you bought the phone.
for example, in germany you won't lose warranty when using a custom rom, unless your dealer/sony can prove that installing a custom rom is the cause for the phones malfunction/defect -> a broken screen or power button can't be caused by a cyanogen mod rom.
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Yeah the thing is the phone will not be mine and I really don't want to risk it. I know about rooting and modding and everything but I really don't wanna get involved. That's why I asked if it will be ok with stock Rom. So I guess if it comes with 4.3 I will not update it..if it comes with 4.4 I'll see what I can do.
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Not sure, but in many countries it should come with 4.4.
I don't understand why people bring up that the phone is "old". It's about 1.5 year "old" that's true, but.... what can newer phones do that the XZ can't?? They might have higher PPI (only a few) and higher CPU clock, but that is really about it. Even for daily use.... I've got my phone since it came out end of Feb 2013 and I can still use my phone for longer then a day easily. Let alone when battery is still new.
The XZ is really still up to par with phones that were just released.
The problem with this phone is the screen, it's sub par, below average.... Put a 1080p amoled next to it and you will see what I mean
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If you are getting the purple, I recommend the Xperia Z. The purple Xperia Z is the best looking, better looking than Z1 and Z2. Ofcourse if you want white, complete opposite story.
if shes got money just buy z2 recommendation.. better then old version.. 3GB RAM, 20.7mp of camera, external memory support up to 128GB. waterproof too
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Have any of you come from the Samsung galaxy S3 what are your thoughts and opinions on the Sony TL phone? I am looking to get something different.
Well, the TL is only an American release for ATT, and it's the only one (of the Xperia T series) that hasn't had its bootloader unlocked. Root is possible though. There's tons of development for the T, but very little for the TL. I came to the Xperia TL from an Xperia X10, and once I had my hands on that first Xperia, I haven't felt the need to switch brands.I feel like from now on, I'm only going to buy Sony android devices.
Custom roms for the TL can be a little tricky. Roms for locked bootloaders work fine but you have to be careful with the baseband. A lot of these custom roms are built from European builds, so they say to flash the original stock rom (ATT) with only allowing the baseband to flash onto the device to try to keep LTE connectivity. ATT's 4G LTE network is very specific for the US and I've had signal issues with custom roms where I lose connectivity (data and voice) briefly at random times.
On a final note, very nice phone in my opinion. The stock JB firmware on the TL is plenty fast for me. I've basically just put the stock JB back on my phone, then rooted it to get rid of ATT bloatware and to allow tethering (without having to pay extra). Badass phone for only having to pay 50 bucks to ATT to get it. If you happen to get it and it has ICS on it (which had a lot of bugs on the TL), get the JB update on it ASAP.
Sorry to be so wordy, but I've spent hours on this forum figuring all this out. Just trying to save you some time...
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Well, the TL is only an American release for ATT, and it's the only one (of the Xperia T series) that hasn't had its bootloader unlocked. Root is possible though. There's tons of development for the T, but very little for the TL. I came to the Xperia TL from an Xperia X10, and once I had my hands on that first Xperia, I haven't felt the need to switch brands.I feel like from now on, I'm only going to buy Sony android devices.
Custom roms for the TL can be a little tricky. Roms for locked bootloaders work fine but you have to be careful with the baseband. A lot of these custom roms are built from European builds, so they say to flash the original stock rom (ATT) with only allowing the baseband to flash onto the device to try to keep LTE connectivity. ATT's 4G LTE network is very specific for the US and I've had signal issues with custom roms where I lose connectivity (data and voice) briefly at random times.
On a final note, very nice phone in my opinion. The stock JB firmware on the TL is plenty fast for me. I've basically just put the stock JB back on my phone, then rooted it to get rid of ATT bloatware and to allow tethering (without having to pay extra). Badass phone for only having to pay 50 bucks to ATT to get it. If you happen to get it and it has ICS on it (which had a lot of bugs on the TL), get the JB update on it ASAP.
Sorry to be so wordy, but I've spent hours on this forum figuring all this out. Just trying to save you some time...
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It's a great device and acts like the very popular Xperia T, (If you flash the European .140 firmware with flashtool excluding the baseband to keep 4GLTE
I can't say I came from the 3, but I came from an HTC Amaze and the T just blows it away.
Also, I sent you a PM
I purchased the sg s3 to replace my water-damaged Ion and I hated it. I have to take 3 or 4 pictures everytime to make sure I got a good one. I also didn't like the way notifications still come through the phone speaker instead of the earphones when you are using them and I didn't use any of the gimmicky features of the s3. So I bought a TL on Ebay and sold the S3. The camera on the Xperia TL is much better. I plan to stay with Sony next time I upgrade.
I ilke my Xperia T more than my previous phone (S3). Sony's launcher kills Sammy's TouchWiz... and the S3 had some pretty silly rules, like when using the volume button to turn down the ringtone, the notification volume didn't follow automatically. Also it had this annoying volume escalation in the ringtone when getting a phone call. Had to use a 3rd party app to silence it (but some custom roms had this 'feature' fixed so that was good.). I enjoy the size of the Xperia T more than the S3 also.
Things I don't like about the Xperia T that the S3 handled fine were 1) Removing the battery... I like to know I can replace the battery at any time. 2) When I plug my Sony PS3 controller into the S3, it can instantly use it as an input device... when I plug the controller into my Xperia T, it whines about how it can't power it.
I came from the Samsung Captivate, this phone is way better than that device.
The only thing I miss is dsp manager from cm10. The bass and volume were absolutely killer.
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Much happier with this than my old s3 had it for 3 days and found it to plastic. No doubting that it's a half tidy phone, just feel that the t is way better made and considering that the s3 is meant to have a better processor. This performs awesome.
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Sony's phones are design for speed despite their low CPUs unlike other brands which hogs their phones with useless tweaks, thus reducing speed.
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low CPUs?are you kidding me?american SG3 has the same dual core and remember 28nm dual core krait is on almost on par with exonos and better than tegra3 45nm
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low CPUs?are you kidding me?american SG3 has the same dual core and remember 28nm dual core krait is on almost on par with exonos and better than tegra3 45nm
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When I said low CPUs I meant for their older device. Also I meant it as lower CPUs. Sony having a lower CPUs than others.
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The PS3 power consumption problem doesn't exist if you use Sony Ericsson Livedock DK25 (even though it was for SE2011 devices) as I use an Xbox wired controller on my 3 out of my 4 android devices without a problem
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I came from a very similar model, the HTC One XL (only difference between the SGS3 is the extra 1GB of RAM). I was a little skeptical at first but I picked up the TL at walmart for 10 cents. Having not seen them anywhere else I thought it was quite the find. The camera is what sold me on it for sure.
As I got to using it, I realized what a smart move it was. All of my favorite mods for the One XL were native to this device. Bravia engine, clear audio+, xloud, etc. I had pretty much all of the Sony stuff installed on my HTC so it made the stock ROM very much usable; A slightly embellished AOSP. This is the first Android device I have EVER owned that I had no desire to flash a new ROM to get away from the stock software, which is typically clunky and slow, managing memory very poorly. Not with the TL. It takes full advantage of the identical hardware that my old phone had, proving to me that there really isn't any need for quad/octa core power-hungy beasts yet.
At first I didn't like the screen, but after playing with the settings a bit, I love it. The limited viewing angle ensures privacy, though some people do not like it. Colors are very true to life, as opposed to the One XL which is vivid and bright, but colors would look washed out. My wife had the S III and I absolutely hated the power-hungy super AMOLED. screen, everything looked so artificial. What amazes me most about the TL display is how functional it is with the backlight turned way down. Reproduces colors very well and is very readable in indoor and outdoor situations. Makes for a very battery-efficient device.
Yes the bootloader can't be unlocked, and flashing ROMS is limited compared to Samdung or HTC, but when you can theme and mod the device with a locked bootloader why bother? I have CM10 themes and cybershot camera, themed SMS and dialer, with the docomo status bar and task switcher. Debloated and greenified this has been the best stock experience I have had with any device. I'm sold on Sony I think I will stick with them.
I'd say I'd love a unlocked bootloader for the sake of a ported Ubuntu
Anyways, I came from a Motorola Defy+. Whilst the phone was "dumber", there was one single thing it made better than my current Xperia T: Audio playback. Never complained about that. On my Sony, however, it's quite problematic. As I really like to skip audio, it's a issue for me. I also dislike the audio bloatware Sony gives me. I flashed a different .FTF, no difference at all. Waiting for 4.2./4.3 (although I could flash a ROM).
However, this is not the entire story.
The Walkman music player rocks with one single dumb thing: search. I can search an album/artist/song/genre/whatever, and access everything really fast (I've got 20 GBs of music on my phone). And that's nice.
I also like the hardware and the lack of bloatware. The camera, which is good. The screen size is perfect IMO.
I like the fact that it feels mine, and only mine. That I can mod it, if I want to, and that I can.
I really am waiting for Ubuntu for this, and maybe I'll even flash MIUI some day.
I'm thinking of getting an xperia t mainly because of the camera. Should be in my hands by the end of the week. I know that it seems like a downgrade from my nexus 4 but it's not gonna stop me from trying it.
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Camera especially fv from market is really good
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i came to Xperia V from SGS3. i must say i hated the S3 because of it's size and i got frustrated when i tried to operate the phone with one hand and couldn't reach the screen and the phone often fell from my hand trying.
however, i miss the screen, the samsung roms, the plethora of choices and mods to use (not forgetting a super cool CM 10.1 build which i loved)
and one thing i just constantly mind about Xperia V is that doesn't give separate volumes for the ring and notification. as you know we use our smartphones a lot for chatting and i want to be able to have a low volume for the notifications, while not risking to miss a phone call.
apart from this, i love the V. it's water resistant and the camera is cool.
oh yes, and the last thing is the battery. i think that the V should also have stamina mode and try to make the device last throughout the day while using it extensively. when i say this, i always compare the usage time and the battery juice we get from both phones, i have a feeling that the S3 lasted me a good 2 hours longer than the V with about similar amount of usage
I came from a Galaxy Note.
The main thing for me is the camera. The Samsung cameras are rubbish - my note and my friends' S3s and even the recent S4 can't touch the Xperia for camera quality. I don't even take my point and shoot instant camera out anymore!
I guess the thing you will probably notice more than anything initially though it's the screen. LCD isn't so bright and vibrant as Samsung's LED ones, but I find them more natural and the Bravia engine is good.
My only other comment is that I was never really happy with my Samsung phone. I was constantly wanting to flash new custom or leaked firmware for a better experience. Don't really feel like that with the Sony device - it just works and doesn't have the garish TouchWiz interface either!
Im coming from a S3, and my first impression was the build of the entire phone, the quality is amazing and than S3, I'm really happy with my new phone
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I had a s3 before. Then changed to the Xperia Ion then just bought the Xperia T tonight.
So far love it. And yes alot more than the S3.
Hello guys,what's up?
Im new to the forum,and i would really appreciate it if you help me make up my mind about buying the Z1,I've been reading about it and its features,watching videos and everything but still can't make up my mind as I have never met someone who has been using it and though I don't know how it works in real life.Is it really worth it?What kind of troubles can I face while using it? and the most important question,do you guys think that it's better than the Samsung Galaxy s4? in what way?
You have no idea how much i need your help guys,I ll be so greatful !
Peace
In my opinion it is a very good phone, it has amazing performance, good battery life, beatiful and structured ui, with good light the camera performs well (whit less light only in manuall mode), in my opinion beatiful design and in case of brightness and witheness the Display is fantastic, also the viewing angles are good but not perfect
Another aspect is that Sony has a good relationship with the dev. comunity (I Think) !!!
A littlebit annoying is the sensitive screen in case of scratches, but it is not that bad with some screen protectors xD
All in all it is a good phone with much better software than the sgs 4 ,in my opinion, also the metal frame feels very nice in comparrison to sgs 4´s platic and fake metal Frame More over it is water resistant (Very nice Feature)
All in all I can recommend it to you
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In my opinion it is a very good phone, it has amazing performance, good battery life, beatiful and structured ui, with good light the camera performs well (whit less light only in manuall mode), in my opinion beatiful design and in case of brightness and witheness the Display is fantastic, also the viewing angles are good but not perfect
Another aspect is that Sony has a good relationship with the dev. comunity (I Think) !!!
A littlebit annoying is the sensitive screen in case of scratches, but it is not that bad with some screen protectors xD
All in all it is a good phone with much better software than the sgs 4 ,in my opinion, also the metal frame feels very nice in comparrison to sgs 4´s platic and fake metal Frame More over it is water resistant (Very nice Feature)
All in all I can recommend it to you
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Thank you so much for your reply,I agree with what you said,but do you think that what Sony offers can top some of the exclusive features of the sgs4?such as the air gesture,air view,eye control and the built in barometre and thermometre? Honnestly that s what standing in my way to get the z1,thinking that i ll miss all these exclisivities from the s4 not to mention that the s4 is rated to be a lot more reparable than Sony!
I can unserstand what you are saying, but I think these features aren´t necessary !!! I know a lot people using sgs 4 and simply nobody is using most of Samsungs special features !! In addition most of them aren´t working fine so you won´t be able to use the correctly xD oreover all those fetures are using battery so you are loosing a lot of (truly it is changable) !!!
Hopfully I could help you and don´t forget to hit the ´´Thanks´´ button
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I can unserstand what you are saying, but I think these features aren´t necessary !!! I know a lot people using sgs 4 and simply nobody is using most of Samsungs special features !! In addition most of them aren´t working fine so you won´t be able to use the correctly xD oreover all those fetures are using battery so you are loosing a lot of (truly it is changable) !!!
Hopfully I could help you and don´t forget to hit the ´´Thanks´´ button
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Yeah,you've been so helpful thank's a lot,and because of that i'll annoy you more with my questions XD , tell me plz about the battery,if one day it gets ruined after a long while of excessive use,how can that be fixed?
MakaMika said:
Hello guys,what's up?
Im new to the forum,and i would really appreciate it if you help me make up my mind about buying the Z1,I've been reading about it and its features,watching videos and everything but still can't make up my mind as I have never met someone who has been using it and though I don't know how it works in real life.Is it really worth it?What kind of troubles can I face while using it? and the most important question,do you guys think that it's better than the Samsung Galaxy s4? in what way?
You have no idea how much i need your help guys,I ll be so greatful !
Peace
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The S4 isn't a bad phone but compared to the Z1, the S4 has a slower Snapdragon 600 processor and GPU, smaller battery, poor build quality (plastic back and frame)
All depends on your Budget though,
I've had Samsung phones for over 3 years now, let me tell you that most of the Samsung features are just gimmicks. You wont even use %75 of those things in your cell, unless you want to show off in front of your Iphone friends
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Yeah,you've been so helpful thank's a lot,and because of that i'll annoy you more with my questions XD , tell me plz about the battery,if one day it gets ruined after a long while of excessive use,how can that be fixed?[/QUO)
I think, but i´am not sure, you will get two years of battery warranty by Sony, but only phones with bulit in battery like the z1 !!! And I heard that modern batteries will loose only 15 % of their capacity after a bit more than 1000 times of complet charging xD
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The S4 isn't a bad phone but compared to the Z1, the S4 has a slower Snapdragon 600 processor and GPU, smaller battery, poor build quality (plastic back and frame)
All depends on your Budget though,
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I wouldn't say that the S4 is "poor build quality" just because it's made out of plastic. It's a less desirable material, but it's still selling well.
If you're getting a phone now, it would be foolish to get an S4 when its replacement is just around the corner. I wouldn't choose this phone unless you don't care about keeping up with the latest and greatest.
I would personally be stuck between the Z1, Nexus 5, and the Note 3.
Everyone knows that the Nexus 5 is the best bang for the buck. It's not a fancy phone, but it has some top-line specs at a low price point which makes this compelling to everyone.
The Note 3 is actually not much bigger physically against the Z1, but the screen size is a good .5 inches larger. You might not use the stylus as much as you think you would, but 3rd party development as well as accessory availability is much higher than any of the 3.
The Z1's selling point is the camera and body. Megapixels mean nothing, but it's got one of the best specs. Aluminum and glass body for the iPhone-like feel.
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I prefer the Sony Xperia Z1
MakaMika said:
Hello guys,what's up?
Im new to the forum,and i would really appreciate it if you help me make up my mind about buying the Z1,I've been reading about it and its features,watching videos and everything but still can't make up my mind as I have never met someone who has been using it and though I don't know how it works in real life.Is it really worth it?What kind of troubles can I face while using it? and the most important question,do you guys think that it's better than the Samsung G
alaxy s4? in what way?
You have no idea how much i need your help guys,I ll be so greatful !
Peace
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The battery of Xperia Z1 is so nice. I watched video with maximum voice.And I turned on the flashlight then take photos. The capacity of the z1 battery reduced slowly. The color of the photo taken by S4 is bright. But S4 was burning hot after playing games.
At the moment, the Z1 is right up there, just make sure you get a phone that is bootloader unlockable if you plan to in the future, i didn't like an idiot.
other alternatives are the note 3, LG N5 and the LG G2, all good phones and you most likely won't regret any purchases, I went with the Z1 as it's the right size for me, has a crazy camera and it's water proof, the pace of the phone is superb and it's build quality is top notch.
The choice is always yours tho m8 and it doesn't really matter what other people say, it's down to what you think in the end.
Looking back now, if i could have done it again, i might have given the note 3 another look, maybe even a glare
Forget the S4, it wasn't up to much when it came out, overheating issues, random reboots and a lot of phones simply just dying, at the time the HTC One for me anyway was the logical choice, still my favorite phone, albeit with a slightly slower processor, i'd even got as far to say that the One holds it's own with the newer batch, only problem is that when newer phones come out the One might feel dated in terms of performance.
You see I found them at almost the same price!
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I've had Samsung phones for over 3 years now, let me tell you that most of the Samsung features are just gimmicks. You wont even use %75 of those things in your cell, unless you want to show off in front of your Iphone friends
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I heard that these features won t be fully used and You confirmed that to me!too bad my friends are all android users,nothing to brag about
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MakaMika said:
Yeah,you've been so helpful thank's a lot,and because of that i'll annoy you more with my questions XD , tell me plz about the battery,if one day it gets ruined after a long while of excessive use,how can that be fixed?[/QUO)
I think, but i´am not sure, you will get two years of battery warranty by Sony, but only phones with bulit in battery like the z1 !!! And I heard that modern batteries will loose only 15 % of their capacity after a bit more than 1000 times of complet charging xD
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Wow that's great!I guess it would be a legit choice after all!!thanks a lot man
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Lakerma said:
MakaMika said:
Yeah,you've been so helpful thank's a lot,and because of that i'll annoy you more with my questions XD , tell me plz about the battery,if one day it gets ruined after a long while of excessive use,how can that be fixed?[/QUO)
I think, but i´am not sure, you will get two years of battery warranty by Sony, but only phones with bulit in battery like the z1 !!! And I heard that modern batteries will loose only 15 % of their capacity after a bit more than 1000 times of complet charging xD
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Yeah you re right,but the s5 wont be here until March maybe and would be a little expencive at the begining.
I dont quite get what you mean by saying megapixels mean nothing,do you mean that the quality of the photos taken by z1 isn't that big of a deal?
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The battery of Xperia Z1 is so nice. I watched video with maximum voice.And I turned on the flashlight then take photos. The capacity of the z1 battery reduced slowly. The color of the photo taken by S4 is bright. But S4 was burning hot after playing games.
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This sounds awesome! And yes,I ve had the overheating problem with my samsung phones,it gets annoying sometimes especially when it turns itself off because of it X-(
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At the moment, the Z1 is right up there, just make sure you get a phone that is bootloader unlockable if you plan to in the future, i didn't like an idiot.
other alternatives are the note 3, LG N5 and the LG G2, all good phones and you most likely won't regret any purchases, I went with the Z1 as it's the right size for me, has a crazy camera and it's water proof, the pace of the phone is superb and it's build quality is top notch.
The choice is always yours tho m8 and it doesn't really matter what other people say, it's down to what you think in the end.
Looking back now, if i could have done it again, i might have given the note 3 another look, maybe even a glare
Forget the S4, it wasn't up to much when it came out, overheating issues, random reboots and a lot of phones simply just dying, at the time the HTC One for me anyway was the logical choice, still my favorite phone, albeit with a slightly slower processor, i'd even got as far to say that the One holds it's own with the newer batch, only problem is that when newer phones come out the One might feel dated in terms of performance.
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Umm,Im not so sure what "bootloader unlockable" means,is it about the ability to change roms and roots and stuff? (not much into this ) but it'd be so nice of you if you explain it more.The guy at the phone store did mention something about having to unlock the phone before he could sell it,is that it?
I appreciate your help dude!
Is any off-contract (full price) Z1 bootloader-unlockable? I assume the locked-down ones are carrier-subsidized...
I would have recommended the Z1 untill Sonys half-arsed 4.3 release ballsed-up the bluetooth stack making the phone useless in my car as I cannot use it now on hands-free................................
MakaMika said:
Umm,Im not so sure what "bootloader unlockable" means,is it about the ability to change roms and roots and stuff? (not much into this ) but it'd be so nice of you if you explain it more.The guy at the phone store did mention something about having to unlock the phone before he could sell it,is that it?
I appreciate your help dude!
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The guy at the store shouldn't really have to do anything with the phone to sell it, especially unlocking it. ?
Unlocking the bootloader gives you a bit more freedom to do what you want with the phone, so if you were to root it (BL unlock isn't required for root) and then you wanted to install a rom like Paranoid android or Cyanogen mod or any rom that requires a custom kernel then you will need to have the ability to unlock the handset, I personally can't unlock mine cos I stupidly went with a provider directly, also bare in mind that the bootloader unlock or not isn't anything to do with the sim being locked, they're not related.
If you have no plans to unlock the bootloader then i'm sure you'll love the Z1, i've had literally no problems with mine, everything is fast and stable (bar the odd random reboot which happens once a week if that) i'm still running 4.2 and it suits me quite well, I am rooted and I have exactly the right amount of mods installed that I would want from any other phone, also the pace of the phone is blistering so i don't really have a need to install custom kernels anyway and the CM based rom's are good but I never really stick with them for very long anyway, so not a deal breaker for me.
Just so you know, unlocking the bootloader will most likely void your warranty so be aware before you commit, rooting is reversible and won't touch your warranty, unless you send it to them rooted, just flash an FTF to revert back to normal.
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I would have recommended the Z1 untill Sonys half-arsed 4.3 release ballsed-up the bluetooth stack making the phone useless in my car as I cannot use it now on hands-free................................
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4.4 will be in the post m8, and it'll address the BT issues i imagine.
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Is any off-contract (full price) Z1 bootloader-unlockable? I assume the locked-down ones are carrier-subsidized...
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Not all carriers disallow the unlock.
So i'm going to buy the Xperia Z1 , but im scared that it heats up and it would have heating problems and other problems . should i go for it or not?
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Go for it, almost all the problems was solved with the FW .136 Update and with KitKat it will be much better. BTW there is no any Perfect phone on the market, all of them have + and -.
so heat problems were proved to be software problems? what about touchscreen . im afraid because in my country if it has minor problems like this ( They consider it minor ) they dont trade it for me. and why your phone is back to sony center @eclyptos ?
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so heat problems were proved to be software problems? what about touchscreen . im afraid because in my country if it has minor problems like this ( They consider it minor ) they dont trade it for me. and why your phone is back to sony center @eclyptos ?
THANKS!
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Yes, problem was solved by Software. I sent back my phone to Sony Center via warranty for Touch Screen issues but that was before the FW .136 was released. Many reported they do not have problem with the Touch Screen anymore after update to .136. So in few days my phone will be back and I will check what exactly they did, replaced the Touch Screen or just Updated the FW to .136.
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So i'm going to buy the Xperia Z1 , but im scared that it heats up and it would have heating problems and other problems . should i go for it or not?
THANKS
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I have my z1 for two month, sometimes I play asphalt 8 for two hours, the phone does warmup ofcourse it's no light game, but it's still comfortable to hold, defenetly not OVERHEAT.
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So i'm going to buy the Xperia Z1 , but im scared that it heats up and it would have heating problems and other problems . should i go for it or not?
THANKS
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Every phone heats up if you run something heavy.. On normal usage I never experienced any heating up
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So should i go for it ?? please answer me like if it is really worth because if i get a bad phone i wont be buying another one for at least two years
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So should i go for it ?? please answer me like if it is really worth because if i get a bad phone i wont be buying another one for at least two years
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It's an amazing device and probably the best one out there.
Do bare in mind that a lot of new devices are being released in March (after MWC) and new features as well an next generation CPU and GPU's will be implemented, so if you do have the money and don't mind waiting, maybe it is worth holding off till then.
Z1 has amazing performance, is waterproof and the camera can take astonishing pictures.
The screen has vibrant colors but the viewing angles are not great ( could be a no no for some). The external speaker is also a disappointment as it has waterproofing membranes.
I would advise you to read reviews online and see if that's the device for you. Other phones to consider would include (LG G2, Nexus 5, HTC One, Oppo Find 5,SGSIV, Note 3 etc). None of the devices available in the market is perfect, so you just have to choose the one that suits your usage best.
I have quite a few Z1 videos on my YouTube channel so if you have time, come and check them out.
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLLVYZ9W70saVW6-oStvWb0gFur7yZHGxN
Thanks all
If you looking over portability then go for Z1 Compact, if not then go for it...
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Go for it!
it`s awesome at performance i had not really heating problems with OC and hard gaming like gta for hours
Of course it gets hot like every phone would at this specs but not that hot in my opinion at least.
Hello all,
I'm not very technical, but wanted some advice on my next phone purchase.
Currently have the S6 and hate it. Terrible battery life and miss front facing speakers from my HTC M7. I also want a smaller phone and water resistance is great if I can use my phone in the shower! So... decided on getting the compact.
From my research it sounds like the Z3c successor may not be too far away, but will probably sport a qualcomm 810 chip which I heard overheats and lose magnetic charging (I much prefer this to wireless charging). But a better screen, fingerprint scanner and newer design appeal to me too which I'm sure the Z5c will have.
Can you help me decide whether I should wait or just grab the Z3c now?
Thanks,
Jesus Eats Uranium
hi jesus. one thing to point out, some folk have been having issues with the magentic charger in that its been pulled out of its socket. sony were not repairing them under warranty either. I believe that this was mainly happening to folk with third party super strong mangetic chargers, but I personally wont even risk using the sony one as I do not trust the design. it it breaks you lose waterproofing or have to pay a decent chunk for repair.
as for the rest, well its its hypothetical but a bird in the hand and all that. plus price might be a factor. the z3c is without doubt the best phone I have ever used. as someone who values battery uber alles, its been a joy. plus with a very decent 5.1.1 update just out, there isnt much to not like.
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hi jesus. one thing to point out, some folk have been having issues with the magentic charger in that its been pulled out of its socket. sony were not repairing them under warranty either. I believe that this was mainly happening to folk with third party super strong mangetic chargers, but I personally wont even risk using the sony one as I do not trust the design. it it breaks you lose waterproofing or have to pay a decent chunk for repair.
as for the rest, well its its hypothetical but a bird in the hand and all that. plus price might be a factor. the z3c is without doubt the best phone I have ever used. as someone who values battery uber alles, its been a joy. plus with a very decent 5.1.1 update just out, there isnt much to not like.
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Can you explain the bird thing?
a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush. something good now is better than the promise of something better later. you know what your dealing with etc.
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hi jesus. one thing to point out, some folk have been having issues with the magentic charger in that its been pulled out of its socket. sony were not repairing them under warranty either. I believe that this was mainly happening to folk with third party super strong mangetic chargers, but I personally wont even risk using the sony one as I do not trust the design. it it breaks you lose waterproofing or have to pay a decent chunk for repair.
as for the rest, well its its hypothetical but a bird in the hand and all that. plus price might be a factor. the z3c is without doubt the best phone I have ever used. as someone who values battery uber alles, its been a joy. plus with a very decent 5.1.1 update just out, there isnt much to not like.
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Heya, good points.
On the magnetic charger point -- I've been using Sony's Magnetic charging cable regularly (it's the only way I charge phone) for last ~7 months, no issues so far. Phone make is from Nov '14. So the issue you mentioned must be from early batches or I just got lucky!
Never mind....
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At this point in the life-cycle of the Z3C, you're better off waiting for the successor to be released BEFORE making your decision. If you get the phone now, you'll be purchasing a phone that is nearly 2 years old, which is considered outdated in the mobile technology world. Do you realistically see yourself continuing to use a 2 year old device for 2 more years while watching all the new devices being released around you? If the Z5C doesn't have the features you want or the price is simply too high, then you should get a Z3C on the cheap and call it good.
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Two years old? It was released in September 2014 >.>
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I'd say get a Z3 Compact and enjoy installing a pre-rooted 5.1.1 on it and immediately have the best, most-compact phone out there, running the most up to date Android. The phone, while less than a year old, is no slouch and still beats newer phones that have come out this year. It's battery life is fantastic and I don't think you'd regret it, especially if you can get one for a decent price. As they renamed the Z4 to be Z3+ in the US with no new compact model, it's not certain when the next compact model will come out, but I think that implies Sony is leaning on the Z3c for a while still.
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Two years old? It was released in September 2014 >.>
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Ha - oops. I got WAY ahead of myself here. Good catch.
bofis said:
I'd say get a Z3 Compact and enjoy installing a pre-rooted 5.1.1 on it and immediately have the best, most-compact phone out there, running the most up to date Android. The phone, while less than a year old, is no slouch and still beats newer phones that have come out this year. It's battery life is fantastic and I don't think you'd regret it, especially if you can get one for a decent price. As they renamed the Z4 to be Z3+ in the US with no new compact model, it's not certain when the next compact model will come out, but I think that implies Sony is leaning on the Z3c for a while still.
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Hi, your comment about installing a pre/rooted 5.1.1? Will that allow me to bypass the Exchange PIN that is required and does the root impact the camera quality which I heard as well? Thanks for help
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Two years old? It was released in September 2014 >.>
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maddie01 said:
Hi, your comment about installing a pre/rooted 5.1.1? Will that allow me to bypass the Exchange PIN that is required and does the root impact the camera quality which I heard as well? Thanks for help
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There is now a method for rooting that will not require you to unlock your boot loader, which is what causes the camera quality to crap out. So no worries. Check the sticky in the general forum.
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Hi everyone.
Need a phone for my wife. Hers was lost ):
Thought of this or a Xiaomi one.
I like that this one has CM build.
How do U guys like this phone (even on stock rom)?
Would you recommend it?
Basic everyday usages. PS - how's the camera?
Thanks so much!
wont recommend for the camera, rest the performance & battery is huge and efficient... I keep iphone 7 for camera/snapchat/etc
No, not at all. After about 10 days I got airplane mode issue that can't be solved now, I had only 7 days replacement warranty :/ Camera also not of that level. So don't go for it.
thank you guys
The camera is not good and the fingerprint sensor fails after a few months, but the long battery life is awesome and software support (CM14, NucleaROM) is great. It depends on what you want/need. As a practical, affordable tool, the Zuk Z1's a great phone.
I probably wouldn't consider it if I weren't putting a custom ROM on it, though.
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Yes I would surely recommend you this phone. First thing is that its battery is very efficient. Next is that I liked its front camera 8MP. Performance is also quite good.
benyben123 said:
Hi everyone.
Need a phone for my wife. Hers was lost ):
Thought of this or a Xiaomi one.
I like that this one has CM build.
How do U guys like this phone (even on stock rom)?
Would you recommend it?
Basic everyday usages. PS - how's the camera?
Thanks so much!
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Yes I would surely recommend you this phone. First thing is that its battery is very efficient. Next is that I liked its front camera 8MP. Performance is also quite good.
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I do think, though, that if his wife wants a nice camera, she should look for another phone.
I wouldn't recommend it unless you are willing to install a custom rom
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I wouldn't recommend it unless you are willing to install a custom rom
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What's your problem with this phone and why are you only talking about getting custom roms???
I have my ZUK1 since more than a year as a daily driver. Travelled the world with it using its dual sim function to the fullest. Use my fingerprint reader every day and has not failed nor can I confirm the other problems people are "experiencing".
I do read a lot here and can only assume that a lot of the "problems" are self inflicted, flashing and or unlocking/rooting while they don't have a clue what they are doing...:silly:
My phone is stock COS12.1 since day 1.
About the camera...its not the best but for the money you pay descent enough.
I have also a NOTE 4 and can say the ZUK1 it beats the Samsung with ease and that for less than half the price.
And if you are scared reading about problems with a phone, please do yourself a favour and go and read on the Samsung NOTE 4 section...that's suppose to be a flagship phone!
Would I buy the ZUK1 again? YES, for the 200€ I paid more than a year ago it has fulfilled all its promises and is still going strong...but then again thinking about it, maybe its better that you buy another phone as I am sure I bought the ONLY good ZUK1 ever build!
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What's your problem with this phone and why are you only talking about getting custom roms???
I have my ZUK1 since more than a year as a daily driver. Travelled the world with it using its dual sim function to the fullest. Use my fingerprint reader every day and has not failed nor can I confirm the other problems people are "experiencing".
I do read a lot here and can only assume that a lot of the "problems" are self inflicted, flashing and or unlocking/rooting while they don't have a clue what they are doing...:silly:
My phone is stock COS12.1 since day 1.
About the camera...its not the best but for the money you pay descent enough.
I have also a NOTE 4 and can say the ZUK1 it beats the Samsung with ease and that for less than half the price.
And if you are scared reading about problems with a phone, please do yourself a favour and go and read on the Samsung NOTE 4 section...that's suppose to be a flagship phone!
Would I buy the ZUK1 again? YES, for the 200€ I paid more than a year ago it has fulfilled all its promises and is still going strong...but then again thinking about it, maybe its better that you buy another phone as I am sure I bought the ONLY good ZUK1 ever build!
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I have my zuk z1 since October last year and flashed a rom a few weeks ago cause of all the problems with the standard software, yes I did try a factory reset to see if it solves my problems wich it didn't. The hardware of this phone is good enough the only problem I have is that my fingerprint scanner doesn't work anymore. The biggest problem is the software, it's buggy, slow, still runs on lollipop and the last security update is form June
cfds said:
What's your problem with this phone and why are you only talking about getting custom roms???
I have my ZUK1 since more than a year as a daily driver. Travelled the world with it using its dual sim function to the fullest. Use my fingerprint reader every day and has not failed nor can I confirm the other problems people are "experiencing".
I do read a lot here and can only assume that a lot of the "problems" are self inflicted, flashing and or unlocking/rooting while they don't have a clue what they are doing...:silly:
My phone is stock COS12.1 since day 1.
About the camera...its not the best but for the money you pay descent enough.
I have also a NOTE 4 and can say the ZUK1 it beats the Samsung with ease and that for less than half the price.
And if you are scared reading about problems with a phone, please do yourself a favour and go and read on the Samsung NOTE 4 section...that's suppose to be a flagship phone!
Would I buy the ZUK1 again? YES, for the 200€ I paid more than a year ago it has fulfilled all its promises and is still going strong...but then again thinking about it, maybe its better that you buy another phone as I am sure I bought the ONLY good ZUK1 ever build!
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Lolipop is pathetic, with default operating system screen was way too yellowish (even after customizing colors), finger print button wasn't working as home button, too old operating system the default one is.
I also won't recommend, even if you he goes with it I'll recommend custom rom.
Phone is great, really a value for money device. I was one of the first that took the risk to buy it more than 1.5year ago, but it turned out it was the best choice. ZUK Z1 still going strong in 2017.
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Phone is great, really a value for money device. I was one of the first that took the risk to buy it more than 1.5year ago, but it turned out it was the best choice. ZUK Z1 still going strong in 2017.
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So you bought the second good ZUK Z1 ever produced?!
I agree, good value for money! Has the best GPS I ever encountered in a smartphone...
When I unpacked my "brand new" phone more than a year ago it had (still has) a small nick in the frame next to the USB charging point, that's how it came off the production line. Got the phone off ebay.de and decided it wasn't wort the hassle to get is shipped back and replaced. Lenovo probably "marked" the few good phones...:laugh: