Good idea or bad idea? Your thoughts? - Xperia Z1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello everybody I am gonna start a project that I'm gonna try make a nexus feel based ROM for our phone for Locked bootloader as I am one!
Do you think this is a good idea? Will you guys help me with good ideas for it? And help solve issue with it?
Thanks
-JPH
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JustPlayingHard said:
Hello everybody I am gonna start a project that I'm gonna try make a nexus feel based ROM for our phone for Locked bootloader as I am one!
Do you think this is a good idea? Will you guys help me with good ideas for it? And help solve issue with it?
Thanks
-JPH
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I think the idea is ok, but there are SO many Roms that model off Android / Nexus. What you could do (if you're really good and have a community to help you out) is make a unique rom that uses the same apk format as Android. You can make the interface a lot more creative. For example, Ubuntu Touch has a unqiue way of launching and minimizing apps. You can also have a better settings / tweaking management or maybe try running the latest upstream kernel (Linux 3.14).

Sounds like a good idea, but the models c6916/users like me need it the most due to the fact we will NEVER EEEVERR EVAAAAA get our bootloader unlocked

OS porting from Nexus to Sony? I don't know, the OS from Nexus have to be very "magic" to have this idea. What the benefits? What this porting will do what we cannot do on the Original Sony OS? If there is nothing like "WoW" then is not worth it.

eclyptos said:
OS porting from Nexus to Sony? I don't know, the OS from Nexus have to be very "magic" to have this idea. What the benefits? What this porting will do what we cannot do on the Original Sony OS? If there is nothing like "WoW" then is not worth it.
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Hello. I mean like stripping sonys android and make nexus look as possible while having sonys customizable settings
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So more of a theme than a rom?

Ok? Or I could develop a SMART ROM that use smart functions from other roms like smart call handling
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The launcher is readily available from the Nexus so that's half the battle but afaik if you want to create a rom from the ground up and it's not stock based then wouldn't you need to have an unlocked bootloader to flash it? Idea's a good one but not sure how you would overcome the locked bootloader issue.

dladz said:
The launcher is readily available from the Nexus so that's half the battle but afaik if you want to create a rom from the ground up and it's not stock based then wouldn't you need to have an unlocked bootloader to flash it? Idea's a good one but not sure how you would overcome the locked bootloader issue.
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What I mean is stripping sonys firmware with there stuff. And trying to add Aosp stuff
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[Q]Is there a good ODIN-able ROM without TouchWiz?

I know someone who doesn't want to mess around with CWM and rooting, just wants to flash a good ROM without TouchWiz. I couldn't find a ROM in the Android Development subforum that was both Odin-flashable and TouchWiz-free. Does anyone know of one?
Thanks
Only rom free of TW is CyanogenMOD. The others just replace the launcher but TW is still running in the background.
OK, thanks. Too bad the SGS isn't really supported yet.
Telanis said:
OK, thanks. Too bad the SGS isn't really supported yet.
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Lol and with the s 2 out very soon will it ever be! Samsung are holding back the tech so they can sell some more phones. Fortunately we have CM7....
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CM10 for 4X HD

Just a heads up for all you people thinking its gonna take ages
http://www.engadget.com/2012/07/13/cyanogenmod-developers-slap-jelly-bean-on-an-optimus-4x-hd-teas/
not really. He has a developer edition with already open bootloader.
Does not help us !
d1dd1 said:
not really. He has a developer edition with already open bootloader.
Does not help us !
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Sorry my ignorance but... he needed to flash that phone right?
If that is possible, why we still having people here with bricked devP880's ???
If he can put that phone running on CM10, why we can't even flash a regular .kdz file?
I have no idea
RuedasLocas said:
Sorry my ignorance but... he needed to flash that phone right?
If that is possible, why we still having people here with bricked devP880's ???
If he can put that phone running on CM10, why we can't even flash a regular .kdz file?
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seems u misunderstand that
I think the meaning is that guy having CM10 has a different phone from our retail version
so we can do nothing now
hmm, maybe we should find some ppl who have skills with LG dev, f.ex. 2X or 3D
updates?
The Troll said:
updates?
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We need to wait LG, again...
But now not for update, but for the bootloader unlocker.
But if LG choose to lock bootloader, i think that there is a reason..
MrGioba said:
We need to wait LG, again...
But now not for update, but for the bootloader unlocker.
But if LG choose to lock bootloader, i think that there is a reason..
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why wait?
i got JB on my o4x, although all is not perfect, it does work.
Dexter_nlb said:
why wait?
i got JB on my o4x, although all is not perfect, it does work.
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How? Do you have a dev phone ?
Regards
vlamers said:
How? Do you have a dev phone ?
Regards
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no, i just used my cwm recovery and hijack. i believe i even showed that htc one x rom runs on our o4x.
Dexter_nlb said:
no, i just used my cwm recovery and hijack. i believe i even showed that htc one x rom runs on our o4x.
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can you atleast tweak the stock 4x rom?
not libraries but atleast porn some other apps?
especially LS and contacts?
Dexter, how far is your progress on the jb Rom? Can you release it here (as alpha/beta), so we can test it?
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muellersmattes said:
Dexter, how far is your progress on the jb Rom? Can you release it here (as alpha/beta), so we can test it?
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i would rather not. having too many posts saying not working or similar, is not fun, ive been around too long to find that interesting or positive.
and personally i find it less worth testing in public, since its basically stock jb and hardly nothing works.
Dexter, hello.
Maybe you already saw this but, if it helps here it goes.
It?s the android_device_lge_x3 , CM10 device tree for LG-P880 :
https://github.com/TeamNDVRu/android_device_lge_x3
Maybe its worthless or maybe you can do something with it, hope so...
Best regards
RuedasLocas said:
Dexter, hello.
Maybe you already saw this but, if it helps here it goes.
It?s the android_device_lge_x3 , CM10 device tree for LG-P880 :
https://github.com/TeamNDVRu/android_device_lge_x3
Maybe its worthless or maybe you can do something with it, hope so...
Best regards
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that could help i will maybe try one last time, to get my build environment to work, which would help alot, but somewhere my ubuntu seems to keep bugging me.
ok, just noted it was m-deejay's upload, that will do nothing good. i need the one that was build for the developer device.
So it is possible to flash a custom rom with CWM without touching/unlocking the bootloader ?
d1dd1 said:
So it is possible to flash a custom rom with CWM without touching/unlocking the bootloader ?
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many define a custom rom by the option to compile a kernel from source.
we cannot include a modified kernel, without semi-bricking our devices.
but we can change startup and we can init kernel parameters a second time, to allow loading of different services and libraries, which for some is enough to load a customized kernel for graphics mod, removing adware, loading modules and porting cm10,aokp and other roms, like sense or similar miui roms.
i personally believe a port of highly modified rom, is custom. other believe its not a real rom
anyways with the clockworkmod i made its possible, as long as you do the same hijack when needed to change kernel init services or libraries to load.
Dexter_nlb said:
many define a custom rom by the option to compile a kernel from source.
we cannot include a modified kernel, without semi-bricking our devices.
but we can change startup and we can init kernel parameters a second time, to allow loading of different services and libraries, which for some is enough to load a customized kernel for graphics mod, removing adware, loading modules and porting cm10,aokp and other roms, like sense or similar miui roms.
i personally believe a port of highly modified rom, is custom. other believe its not a real rom
anyways with the clockworkmod i made its possible, as long as you do the same hijack when needed to change kernel init services or libraries to load.
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good enough..
whats stopping us?
The Troll said:
good enough..
whats stopping us?
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lack of support from more developers i guess, seems other hardware devices are more popular, and propably much easier to get donations on that on a device with locked bootloaders where development stops at the locked device. today, donations is very popular and driving many towards popular devices.

BEST ROMvfor xperia T

hi guys..i'm new here just bought a Sony xperia T and i want to root it and install a new ROM .
I'ev unlocked my bootloader but I dont understand how to make root at my phone..also can you guys pls advice me what rom should I Install and kernel ? thx.
nemer12 said:
hi guys..i'm new here just bought a Sony xperia T and i want to root it and install a new ROM .
I'ev unlocked my bootloader but I dont understand how to make root at my phone..also can you guys pls advice me what rom should I Install and kernel ? thx.
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err, did you read the first thread in this forum...look at it and read the first 3 posts in the very first thread in the Q&A section.
BTW, the title of this thread is very illuminating
gregbradley said:
err, did you read the first thread in this forum...look at it and read the first 3 posts in the very first thread in the Q&A section.
BTW, the title of this thread is very illuminating
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what rom do you recommend?
nemer12 said:
what rom do you recommend?
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If it helps, I'm going to update my ROM to JB today, but of course you can choose any ROM you wish...
Most ROMs here are stock based, and therefore are very similar.
If you want AOSP then go for CM10, if you like the Sony interface, go for one of the stock based ones.
nemer12 said:
what rom do you recommend?
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I never recommend a rom, its personal choice.
Try some out and see which you prefer. There are lots to try and a good rom for one person is a bad rom for someone else.
If you want to be told which rom to use, why dont you just use the one Sony says you have to use and stick with stock
gregbradley said:
I never recommend a rom, its personal choice.
Try some out and see which you prefer. There are lots to try and a good rom for one person is a bad rom for someone else.
If you want to be told which rom to use, why dont you just use the one Sony says you have to use and stick with stock
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Well put.
gregbradley said:
I never recommend a rom, its personal choice.
Try some out and see which you prefer. There are lots to try and a good rom for one person is a bad rom for someone else.
If you want to be told which rom to use, why dont you just use the one Sony says you have to use and stick with stock
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well i unlocked+rooted+ changed the rom miself(the tuts around here are quite kinda very @-) ) ....
and also I've installed this rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2026918 .
also I know that Sony XDA doesn't have alot of devs..so only simple things..
i has an ONE X but changed it with Xperia T (had also Xperia S) .
Like everything else, it's a very subjective question.
Here's my 2 pence worth.
Coming from a galaxy s2, the dev on Xperia t is limited at best. Nevertheless, I've tried crazybuild, xperiment, PAC, jellybam thus far.
Sony stock has too much bloat ware for me, but it has some nice touches like the small apps.
For customisation and features I prefer the jellybam rom, however, it has many issues I.e inadequate camera app, not all toggles work etc.
I'm personally waiting for a stock rom with cm/aokp mods.
LosKhan said:
I'm personally waiting for a stock rom with cm/aokp mods.
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There's is the KangXperia rom, which is a port of AOKP, and works quite well, in fact I'm writing from it right now.
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Think I am going go for paranoid android later used it on my s2 and it was great
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Arcano said:
There's is the KangXperia rom, which is a port of AOKP, and works quite well, in fact I'm writing from it right now.
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Is camera at full res or max at 5m? Also are u experiencing high pitched tone/noise when using speaker during a call?
this is the bad thing about CM related rom that the camera isn't optimized for our Phone..and u lose alot of cool things(settings) + maybe the MP
LosKhan said:
Is camera at full res or max at 5m? Also are u experiencing high pitched tone/noise when using speaker during a call?
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I use Camera FV-5 and I can shoot at the maximum 13 megapixel of the sensor without any problem.
Regarding the speaker noise, I've never used handsfree during a call, will see if I can try this evening and tell you later.
---------- Post added at 04:04 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:08 PM ----------
Okay, I can confirm that this rom suffers the same bug regarding hands free speaker as other roms.
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So which Roms have these issues?
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chiefy009 said:
So which Roms have these issues?
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I guess all CM based.
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Stick with stock for now then, guess mote development will arrive at some point as its still s fairly new phone
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chiefy009 said:
Stick with stock for now then, guess mote development will arrive at some point as its still s fairly new phone
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It depends on your priorities. For me the small navigation buttons, battery percentage customization, and home button swipe gestures are great features that I really miss in the stock rom. And I never use hands free while on the phone, so AOKP (or rather its port KangXperia) is great for me.
I was hoping to flash phandroid like my phone to look pretty, but use hand free often so no go for me
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chiefy009 said:
I was hoping to flash phandroid like my phone to look pretty, but use hand free often so no go for me
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You may then take a look at stock based ones, but with a few "improvements".
Before I installed AOKP I used TiMiN8R's stock, rooted and deodexed, and it worked very well.

Could this work to port a ROM from HTC One X ?

Hope this question istn too nooby.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1908008
I sure hope so, I would love to see a fully functioning sense rom
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I don't think it's as simple as that, not with a locked bootloader. Dexter has ported the one x Rom but it is far from perfect
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honestly the guide is crappy and miss all the hardware dependent information and what needs to be modified to match current hardware and ANY framework change to support different functions.
OneX port was quite fine, but since telephony was rubbish and HTC made their own framework to support their own driver leaving out any support for other chipset, it is very hard to fix that one. except for that, i found the port quite stable except useless since phonecalls with GSM did not work
Dexter_nlb said:
honestly the guide is crappy and miss all the hardware dependent information and what needs to be modified to match current hardware and ANY framework change to support different functions.
OneX port was quite fine, but since telephony was rubbish and HTC made their own framework to support their own driver leaving out any support for other chipset, it is very hard to fix that one. except for that, i found the port quite stable except useless since phonecalls with GSM did not work
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Could you try making something like this for our phones? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1783260 would really help hardcore gamers like ummm ME!
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@non4 said:
Could you try making something like this for our phones? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1783260 would really help hardcore gamers like ummm ME!
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this is not related to a OneX port, it is just an app followed by a custom kernel to tweak performance, we got no kernel changes available (yet)
AW: Could this work to port a ROM from HTC One X ?
thats a pitty :/
but thanks for your answers
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Dexter_nlb said:
this is not related to a OneX port, it is just an app followed by a custom kernel to tweak performance, we got no kernel changes available (yet)
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Hey Dexter what about your version of CyanogenMod 10 i see that is quite popular on OneX.
I know for the problems of other developer and official O4X version ... but life is going on...
nomaj said:
Hey Dexter what about your version of CyanogenMod 10 i see that is quite popular on OneX.
I know for the problems of other developer and official O4X version ... but life is going on...
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you mean custonexus? or their new 4.2.x based edition? the one i use is currently not continued as i read the topic.
so my corrections are small and since kernel cannot change, we cannot do much.
Dexter_nlb said:
you mean custonexus? or their new 4.2.x based edition? the one i use is currently not continued as i read the topic.
so my corrections are small and since kernel cannot change, we cannot do much.
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i think 4.2.x based edition
nomaj said:
i think 4.2.x based edition
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i know it can work with kholk's release, since i tried the 3.0 paranoid on his, but since extSD is no good, i will wait until we get something stable with custom kernel too.. too many halfbaked roms are no fun.

AOSP for locked bootloader

Hello There!
So i just got my new xperia Z from my company and it is for two years and i had to pay for it anyway.
I have choosen this one cause i knew its a good phone and have loads of devs, and i didnt check if there is any aosp for locked bootloader i was sure, and i thought i can unlock mine anyway.
I was about to unlock my bootloader and i saw i cant do it i googled for 3-4 hours , and there is no way to unlock it even if you pay for it or something.(T-mobile hungary )
At the moment there is no AOSP rom for locked bootloader.
Here is my question : Sony updates this phone really fast, almost as AOSP or 1-2 months i see some good devs making sony custom roms for our device, Can any of you make AOSP only pure cyanogenmod thaths all i need. I'm Sick of the bloatware that sony has in their roms.
I just boot up my phone and half the memory gone.
Are the sony built kernels and custom roms kernels so different? Is it ompossible to make an AOSP rom ?
I would love to see one , i will definately use it and test it for bugs.
I know **** about android development (or any other) but i will get into because i dont want to use ****ty sony roms for 2 years
Cheers!
Viktor
There is no way to get AOSP on a locked device. Is not only that the kernels are different, but the thing is locked bootloaders only run signed Sony kernel.
If memory is your main concern, flash a debloated, stripped down version of Sony's roms.
DrKrFfXx said:
There is no way to get AOSP on a locked device. Is not only that the kernels are different, but the thing is locked bootloaders only run signed Sony kernel.
If memory is your main concern, flash a debloated, stripped down version of Sony's roms.
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yea but we should build an aosp rom for the sony kernel or is it that hard?
in theory its very possible but what will you really gain?
You will have to use pretty much all original binary blobs, and will end up with some framework changes.
is there anything specific in an aosp build that you want?
the Z has one of the most closest none GPE roms around as it is..
as others have said why not just debloat or install a debloated rom?
fards said:
in theory its very possible but what will you really gain?
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I've mentioned this before but it never went anywhere, if Sony's AOSP kernel is signed then what stops it being put in an ftf to be flashed, and if that was possible would that not open the way to getting locked down bootloaders unlocked?
XperienceD said:
I've mentioned this before but it never went anywhere, if Sony's AOSP kernel is signed then what stops it being put in an ftf to be flashed, and if that was possible would that not open the way to getting locked down bootloaders unlocked?
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It looks to me that Sony haven't provided anything for the AOSP kernel but the sources via their AOSP website (I could be wrong, but I don't see any kernel images on their github, only sources).
In that case, anyone wanting to use it has to build it themselves, therefore it will have to be signed by whoever builds it.
So, if everything I said is correct, then it's no use for getting this running on locked bootloaders.
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kingvortex said:
It looks to me that Sony haven't provided anything for the AOSP kernel but the sources via their AOSP website (I could be wrong, but I don't see any kernel images on their github, only sources).
In that case, anyone wanting to use it has to build it themselves, therefore it will have to be signed by whoever builds it.
So, if everything I said is correct, then it's no use for getting this running on locked bootloaders.
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Agreed. Now if we could figure out the Sony keys, or someone leaks them, it is a different story.
nikc0069 said:
Agreed. Now if we could figure out the Sony keys, or someone leaks them, it is a different story.
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I think either situation is highly unlikely.
I don't think it's at all possible to "figure out" keys. If it was, the security wouldn't be very.....secure.
As for leaks from Sony, has this ever happened, for any device in their history?
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kingvortex said:
I think either situation is highly unlikely.
I don't think it's at all possible to "figure out" keys. If it was, the security wouldn't be very.....secure.
As for leaks from Sony, has this ever happened, for any device in their history?
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No I don't think it has. You never know when someone might make a mistake, but I'd agree it isn't something to hold out hope for. Kexec or similar is the best bet, otherwise no AOSP for the locked bootloaders!
fards said:
in theory its very possible but what will you really gain?
You will have to use pretty much all original binary blobs, and will end up with some framework changes.
is there anything specific in an aosp build that you want?
the Z has one of the most closest none GPE roms around as it is..
as others have said why not just debloat or install a debloated rom?
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Hey!
I use one of the debloated rom i gues (monxified)
and i open the process list :
device usage
overheat control
warrantytimeservice
small apps manager
smart search my xperia
location based wifi
semc cnap provider
theese are the useless running apps
so useless installed apps list :
i was able to start to write the list but it will take like 30 minutes
anyway FXP rom size 246 mb + gapps 88mb 334 mb
monxified rom : 545 mb existenze ultra 741mb excelzius 643 mb and thoose megabytes mostly sony bloatware
can u point me to a rom that doesnt have theese inside?
cheers,
Viktor
fulii said:
Hey!
I use one of the debloated rom i gues (monxified)
and i open the process list :
device usage
overheat control
warrantytimeservice
small apps manager
smart search my xperia
location based wifi
semc cnap provider
theese are the useless running apps
so useless installed apps list :
i was able to start to write the list but it will take like 30 minutes
anyway FXP rom size 246 mb + gapps 88mb 334 mb
monxified rom : 545 mb existenze ultra 741mb excelzius 643 mb and thoose megabytes mostly sony bloatware
can u point me to a rom that doesnt have theese inside?
cheers,
Viktor
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Flash any AOSP/CM based ROM from here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=2088
Drummerjed said:
Flash any AOSP/CM based ROM from here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=2088
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And that is exactly what he can't do, as he can't unlock the bootloader... All those ROMs need a custom kernel...
Felimenta97 said:
And that is exactly what he can't do, as he can't unlock the bootloader... All those ROMs need a custom kernel...
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Oops, didn't realise he was the OP
Why didn't you buy one which could be bootloader unlocked?
As i said its from my company and my company is a child company of the Hungarian T mobile so im ****ed anyway
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My Xperia Z with 100% stock firmware and lots of extra apps only has 1 GB of RAM in use. That's the advantage of having 2 GB of RAM, you don't have to worry about memory usage. So just chill out and enjoy your awesome phone
AOSP would ruin a lot of the nice features and design of this phone anyway.
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Just to let you guys know, it is possible to run AOSP Roms on locked Bootloaders. I was running CM10 on my Razr (XT910) and Motorola Devices where always locked untill the HD.
Just have an look, what these Guys meanwhile rockin' on this locked Device
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=39998592
It was an long way to crack Motos Bootloader, but there're some Bad Ass Devs and they kicked Motos Ass
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yea and there were good working stock based roms, even dualboot etc with locked bootloader. but here somebody said it before no dev will bother about locked bootloaders if the device can be unlocked for the 70% of the Z users, and razr couldn't be unlocked.
anyway monixified is a great rom its fast and etc but i miss cyanogenmod features like theme chooser and nice weather on the lockscreen
so anyone doing this? or nope?
well you can always remove them yourself with titanium or a root file browser ? remember to backup rom/apps first, as there can be consequences from removing system apps.. alternately try googling for sony stock sys apps that are safe to remove

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