[Q] Stock image (.761) with full root - but no CWM - wanted - Xperia Z1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi
I'm a newbie here. I have trawled thru 100's of posts in here and elsewhere. What I seek is a stock 14.3.A.0.761 ROM with stock kernel and full root. I know there's a recipe for creating custom ROMS, however those include a CWM, which I don't want, since a recovery means you can't relock the boot loader (or so I've been led to believe browsing around on the net and in here *S*).
So: Can anyone make that with a stock NCB 6903 ROM?
Also - to PhilZ and other geniouses/superheros in here - is it possible to make a temporary ADVANCED recovery which includes gives full (or close to full) root + contain the AROMA file browser?
/Dan

You trawled thru posts here, there and elsewhere and now what? You don't know a bit as you was nowhere and you did not read carefully because if you will do that, you also will know that there is not .761 rooted as the developers do not bother about a 1,8 MB update from .757 as it means they have to remake a whole ROM of 1GB just for 1,8MB.
The latest Stock Pre-Rooted ROM it's here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2711982
To get to that Pre-Rooted (full Root) Stock ROM you have to do 3 steps, Downgrade to .534, Install lates Dualrecovery then follow the instructions from the link I posted from the line How To Update to .757
All for Locked Bootloader.
About Recovery, the recovery have 3 type of recoveries implemented, CWM, Philz and TWRP, I recommend TWRP for everything you do and forget CWM even if is there.
Doing Root your warranty will not be voided. There is no other way to get Full Root on your Phone and nobody will change stuff as you like.
Just do like I said and have a nice time with your Z1.
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I find something what will interest you as you looking for NCB.
This should be Pre-Rooted Files to .761.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=53036866&postcount=58
Follow the same steps of installation like on NUT thread form the Line How to Update.

Having a recovery does not stop you Relocking the bootloader. I don't know where you have read that, I have not read that anywhere and is completely untrue
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As you have said, there are instructions to make your own 761 pre rooted rom. Just follow those. If you do not want to include recovery then don't put those files in the system folder. But it will not stop you relocking the bootloader.
But wait, if you want to relock your bootloader, that implies its unlocked already, yes?
If so, why do you need a pre-rooted 761 ROM, just update to 761, then unlock your bootloader and root the phone. Done!
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Rooting .290 JB 4.3

Hello,
Coming from a Galaxy S2 flashing and rooting is not new to me but for me there are some questions for the Xperia Z1.
When i bought the Z1 it was on 4.2.2, and offcourse i wanted root the same day
After trying numerous times with Vroot i gave up.
After some more reading i read that i had to downgrade and then flash an older version, then root and flash teh correct version and so on.....(cant find the correct topics anymore )
After doing that my phone wasnt working properly and i connected with PC Companion and it gave me the update to .290 JB 4.3 and everything was fine except foor root.
Did some more reading and found the solution,
Now I'm reading that if you are on .290 4.3JB that root isnt possible(correct me if im wrong).
I want to share how i did it because for me it went very easy.The hardest part was getting the drivers installed correctly hhaha
First i unlocked the bootloader and then i flashed a CWM with root and recovery.
I followed the steps provided on this links.
http://techbeasts.com/2013/12/18/how-to-unlock-bootloader-of-sony-xperia-devices-guide/
http://techbeasts.com/2013/12/19/in...ng-latest-14-2-0-a-290-firmware-how-to-guide/
Al of this went so easy that i'm startin to wonder if its me who did it wrong and dont understand it or if you didnt know about it,
The only thing i forgot was a TA backup :angel:
to MODS....if its in the wrong section please replace it.
Actually it is the official way. Unlock -> CWM -> Root with CWM (Notification)
Rooting 4.3 isn't impossible, but morr difficult than on earlier versions. Google wanted to improve the security of android. Most of the ways which "make" the opportunity of rooting are malware-ways too.
You don't need to backup your TA partition with .290 and above, because the camera will work after the BL unlock.
The big question is if root for unlocked boot loaders will ever be available for 4.3! I really doubt it.
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You mean Locked Bootloader, i think?
Question about CWM, does it function the same as it did with my S2? So, back-up and restore with CWM?
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djg269 said:
Question about CWM, does it function the same as it did with my S2? So, back-up and restore with CWM?
sent from rooted en unlocked 4.3 Jb Xperia Z1
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it should, why are u asking ?
Curious
Eager to try but not in the mood for a complete do over if it fails
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Ohh, I will be glad to rooting without unlocking BL...on 4.3..but still no way...
This works just fine, thanks for sharing this! Just FYI, this is also an interesting read about getting full root access on 4.3: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2573921
eclyptos said:
Ohh, I will be glad to rooting without unlocking BL...on 4.3..but still no way...
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I have heard from @shem2409 that a partial root on LB for 290 (4.3) is possible, but I have not figured out how to do it yet. I think you can pull it off with the insecure ramdisk hack, but to install that, you need to install XZDualRecovery; to install XZDR, you need to be rooted; it's only possible to root 534 LB and when upgrading to 290 root is lost. So, it seems to be a chicken-and-egg problem to me at the moment. I think I must be missing something.
xasbo said:
I have heard from @shem2409 that a partial root on LB for 290 (4.3) is possible, but I have not figured out how to do it yet. I think you can pull it off with the insecure ramdisk hack, but to install that, you need to install XZDualRecovery; to install XZDR, you need to be rooted; it's only possible to root 534 LB and when upgrading to 290 root is lost. So, it seems to be a chicken-and-egg problem to me at the moment. I think I must be missing something.
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That's why I do not rooted mine phone yet. Partial root is not worth to do, full root is what we really need but still under testing and also Unlocked Bootloader is needed. Unlock bootloader we lose the DRM keys which we need if one day we want go back to stock and not lose warranty but to do that we have to Buckup TA. To Backup TA we need root, but I updated to 4.3 and I can't. It's to early to fully rooting 4.3. We have to wait. Developers are working on that and I hope a full root come without unlock bootloader. I hope so.
eclyptos said:
That's why I do not rooted mine phone yet. Partial root is not worth to do, full root is what we really need but still under testing and also Unlocked Bootloader is needed. Unlock bootloader we lose the DRM keys which we need if one day we want go back to stock and not lose warranty but to do that we have to Buckup TA. To Backup TA we need root, but I updated to 4.3 and I can't. It's to early to fully rooting 4.3. We have to wait. Developers are working on that and I hope a full root come without unlock bootloader. I hope so.
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If you want to backup TA now, you can - flash back to any 534 FTF, root, make your backup, then upgrade back to 290.
xasbo said:
If you want to backup TA now, you can - flash back to any 534 FTF, root, make your backup, then upgrade back to 290.
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This is what I don't want to do. Unlocking Bootloader on 4.3 will also compromise few features like Bionz and X-Reality. I don't think I really need them but for me will be good enough to have Full Root with Locked Bootlader and Apps to SD. I don't ask to much, so I wait.
eclyptos said:
This is what I don't want to do. Unlocking Bootloader on 4.3 will also compromise few features like Bionz and X-Reality. I don't think I really need them but for me will be good enough to have Full Root with Locked Bootlader and Apps to SD. I don't ask to much, so I wait.
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You just took those words from my fingers. The wise way here is waiting and cheering developers to figure out how things work with Z1, 4.3 just came a few weeks ago and (hopefully) we will get 4.4 soon, so for that time you'll have to do that trickery again to keep your phones rooted.
AntiDroid said:
Actually it is the official way. Unlock -> CWM -> Root with CWM (Notification)
Rooting 4.3 isn't impossible, but morr difficult than on earlier versions. Google wanted to improve the security of android. Most of the ways which "make" the opportunity of rooting are malware-ways too.
You don't need to backup your TA partition with .290 and above, because the camera will work after the BL unlock.
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I mistakenly took the .290 update as well and I'm now looking for a way out. This whole backing up the TA thing worries me because I'm afraid I'll lose those DRM keys and bravia etc..... Are you saying that I will be fine and all the keys will be intact if I follow this guide?
Is it possible to downgrade the firmware instead?
What would you suggest?
Thanks
xasbo said:
I have heard from @shem2409 that a partial root on LB for 290 (4.3) is possible, but I have not figured out how to do it yet. I think you can pull it off with the insecure ramdisk hack, but to install that, you need to install XZDualRecovery; to install XZDR, you need to be rooted; it's only possible to root 534 LB and when upgrading to 290 root is lost. So, it seems to be a chicken-and-egg problem to me at the moment. I think I must be missing something.
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Ok, so here is a little clarification
You need to downgrade to .534, root, install recovery and then flash a prerooted .290 rom from (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2572988) or one of the stock-based custom roms such as monxdified (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2463675) if you want a partially rooted, locked bootloader 4.3 firmware on your Z1. There is an instruction on how to install on locked bootloader in the thread.
Rooting on the newest version of Android 4.3.3 isn't impossible on the Xperia Z1, it just takes you more steps than normal to actually get full root access. I have a locked bootloader as well but I was able to get a rooted version of Android 4.3.3, specifically the iHackers 2.0 ROM running Android 4.3.3 with full root access. Here's how I got full root access on the iHackers 2.0 ROM:
1) Download the .ftf file named C6903 14.1.G.1.534 Global 1277-2880_R4A from the compiled FTF thread at this link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2469191
This is a version of the original Stock Rom that the VROOT program will actually work on when trying to ROOT your phone.
2) Flash the ROM you downloaded using Flashtool (steps on how you can go about doing that should be in the Xperia Z1 General forum.) and now, you're ready to root your phone with it.
3) Download, install and run VROOT to root your phone. Again, more information on how to properly root your phone using VROOT can be found in the Xperia Z1 General forum. For me, I just turned on USB Debugging on my Z1, connected my phone to my computer while VROOT was running and clicked the green button until I got root access. It's extremely easy.
4) With Root Access, now you can download and install Dual Recovery for the Xperia Z1 on your phone.
5) Download the latest iHackers 2.0 ROM from the Xperia Z1 Android Development thread and copy it to your phone. This is hands down, the best ROM for the Xperia Z1 right now in terms of battery life. With the latest 4.3 update, I'm able to get over 2 Days worth of battery life on one charge. Battery life is much better on the new iHackers 2.0 ROM running Android 4.3.
6) Download the flashable Locked Dual Recovery for the Xperia Z1 here. http://nut.xperia-files.com/
The file is called XZ-lockeddualrecovery2.7.63-BETA.flashable.zip (8.48MB), download it and copy it to your phone, preferably the same place you copied the iHackers 2.0 ROM. To make things easier for yourself, create a new folder on your phone or SD Card in your phone and name it iHackers. Copy both the iHackers 2.0 ROM and the flashable Locked Dual Recovery.zip file into this folder.
7) With both files now copied to a folder on your phone, you're now ready to go into recovery to flash the iHackers 2.0 ROM. Boot into recovery and once you're there, do a Wipe Data/Factory Reset before Installing the ROM.
The rest of these steps are now taken directly from the iHackers 2.0 download thread on the Xperia Z1 Android Development forum.
8) Install the ROM and THEN Dual Recovery. Don't make the same mistake I did, once the installer is finished, DON'T REBOOT THE DEVICE. Uncheck the "Reboot Device" box and go back to recovery to install the flashable Dual Recovery.zip file that's in the iHackers 2.0 folder.
9) Switch Off Your Phone (Do Not Reboot). Select No to Disable Flash Recovery Confirmation.
10) Install Kernel.ftf for C6903 (.290) or Kernel.ftf for C6902 (.290) with Flashtool to get compatible Kernel and Baseband. To download the kernel.ftf file, go to the original iHackers 2.0 thread to download and flash the kernel using Flashtool. You should be familiar with Flashtool at this point since if you make it to this step, you've already used Flashtool once to flash the .534 baseband version of Android.
11) Reboot and Enjoy. Now you're running the latest version of Android 4.3 on your Xperia Z1 on a Locked Bootloader WITH full Root Access. Sure, it's not the stock version but the iHackers 2.0 version of Android 4.3 is just as good, if not better. This will certainly do until there's a better way to simply root the newest Stock Version of Android 4.3.
I've been looking into unlocking my bootloader to install custom kernels on my Z1 but the battery life and performance on my Z1 with a locked bootloader is already pretty impressive. I can't imagine how good it could be with a custom kernel.
deli pastrami said:
Are you saying that I will be fine and all the keys will be intact if I follow this guide?
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No, if you Unlock Bootloader you will lost the DRM keys permanently with Bionz and X-Reality, even with Android 4.3, if you do not do a backup, but the difference from 4.2 is that your phone will still working properly.
deli pastrami said:
Is it possible to downgrade the firmware instead?
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Yes.
deli pastrami said:
What would you suggest?
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Nobody can suggest what to do. You have to figure out by yourself what you need. It's your own risk.
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x016x said:
Rooting on the newest version ..bla..bla..bla
....bla..bla..bla..bla...king my bootloader to install custom kernels on my Z1 but the battery life and performance on my Z1 with a locked bootloader is already pretty impressive. I can't imagine how good it could be with a custom kernel.
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Thanx man. I appreciate the time you took to explain the process step by step. One step very important you forgot to mention, Backup TA, never forget to mention that. Anyway I will check if this actually get me full root and all the stuff and when I finally will lose my patient I will start follow the guide and flashing and burning my Z1.
shem2409 said:
Ok, so here is a little clarification
You need to downgrade to .534, root, install recovery and then flash a prerooted .290 rom from (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2572988) or one of the stock-based custom roms such as monxdified (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2463675) if you want a partially rooted, locked bootloader 4.3 firmware on your Z1. There is an instruction on how to install on locked bootloader in the thread.
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Ahh, cheers, I thought there was a way to root any arbitrary ROM, that's where I was getting hung up. The pre-rooted options make total sense.
eclyptos said:
Thanx man. I appreciate the time you took to explain the process step by step. One step very important you forgot to mention, Backup TA, never forget to mention that. Anyway I will check if this actually get me full root and all the stuff and when I finally will lose my patient I will start follow the guide and flashing and burning my Z1.
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The instructions didn't say to unlock the bootloader, which is the only sure-fire way to lose your TA partition. However, I would agree there's no good reason *not* to back it up anyway. Better safe than sorry!
xasbo said:
The instructions didn't say to unlock the bootloader, which is the only sure-fire way to lose your TA partition. However, I would agree there's no good reason *not* to back it up anyway. Better safe than sorry!
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Ahhh, ok, so you are confirming that the guide is incomplete and we have to unlock bootloader anyway if I follow that? Hmmm...I am a bit puzzled.
eclyptos said:
Ahhh, ok, so you are confirming that the guide is incomplete and we have to unlock bootloader anyway if I follow that? Hmmm...I am a bit puzzled.
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Sorry, no. In his instructions, UB is not necessary because XZDualRecovery can be installed on LB. The reason skipping the TA backup is okay is because the instructions do not unlock the BL.

[Q][C5303][STOCK][LB] Root 'A.1.201' Oficial

Hi Guys,
Well I always keep my phone updated via "PC Companion" but after the horrible 4.3, it is impossible to work with, did the update to the '.201' but still the same crap, I wanted to put the 'CWM' to perform the 'root' and put a custom firmware.
Well here's some tutoring I have been followed but without success:
1.[Downgrading] http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2658952
But it asks to perform the 'Unlock Bootloader' to not occur problems of type 'BE2/OTA/PCC'
Went to this:
2.[Unlock Bootloader] http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2354721
It prevents you to make a backup of your 'DRM keys':good:
3.[Backup DRM Key] http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2292598
Ok but to perform this procedure needs root.
Ok! But my problem is how to perform root!:crying:
My questions are a noob, full of problems!:silly:
If you searched a bit futher you've seen this post of mine: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=52439275&postcount=10
TO USE FLASHTOOL OR TO FLASH ANY FTF FILE YOU DO NOT NEED AN UNLOCKED BOOTLOADER!!! ONLY FOR INSTALLING CUSTOM KERNELS AND ROMS LIKE CYANOGENMOD (THERE IS ONE OF LOCKED BOOTLOADERS TOO!!)
edit: Also post this in Q&A next time!!
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If you searched a bit futher you've seen this post of mine: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=52439275&postcount=10
TO USE FLASHTOOL OR TO FLASH ANY FTF FILE YOU DO NOT NEED AN UNLOCKED BOOTLOADER!!! ONLY FOR INSTALLING CUSTOM KERNELS AND ROMS LIKE CYANOGENMOD (THERE IS ONE OF LOCKED BOOTLOADERS TOO!!)
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Tnks man! :good: I will try!
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Note:.If any moderator can move my post I am grateful!
Sorry for my mistake! noob

[Q] Flash new ftf while keeping root?

Hey,
I have a rooted Z3 Compact (D5803) with locked bootloader (via the gfrieroot hack).
However now I still have this old fw and I want to update to the latest KitKat FW, 23.0.1.A.5.77, according to this list:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3-compact/general/list-stock-firmwares-d5803-d5833-t2906706
So now I'm wondering how can I do this, with keeping root?
TY
PS:
Before you ask, I want to stay with KitKat until Lollipop is more mainstream -> less problems.
According to the topic that you linked, it is written in the FAQ :
My current firmware is already rooted, will I need to root again after flashing?
Yes you will, as every time you flash you erase the system partition entirely (root included).
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According to the topic that you linked, it is written in the FAQ :
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Maybe, but I don't know how. Especially since I used a hack/exploit to obtain root w locked bootloader, which only works in that old FW (so I can't just update and do it again).
However from what I read there are ppl who have root, locked bootloader and a recent FW... So I guess there must be a way...
You have to find the original FTF for the version you want (23.0.1.A.5.77), and either make or download a pre-rooted flashable.zip for that version. Then just follow the last part "Install latest firwmare with root, DRM keys, recovery" from the rooting guide again: http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3-compact/general/how-to-root-backup-drm-keys-t3013343
If you want to keep your data partition and internal storage, remember to check "DATA" and "CACHE" in addition to "SYSTEM" in Step 43.
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You have to find the original FTF for the version you want (23.0.1.A.5.77), and either make or download a pre-rooted flashable.zip for that version. Then just follow the last part "Install latest firwmare with root, DRM keys, recovery" from the rooting guide again: http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3-compact/general/how-to-root-backup-drm-keys-t3013343
If you want to keep your data partition and internal storage, remember to check "DATA" and "CACHE" in addition to "SYSTEM" in Step 43.
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Thanks, this looks very promising - too bad there is only a US pre-rooted version...
Ah, well so I will now know all the steps...
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You have to find the original FTF for the version you want (23.0.1.A.5.77), and either make or download a pre-rooted flashable.zip for that version. Then just follow the last part "Install latest firwmare with root, DRM keys, recovery" from the rooting guide again: http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3-compact/general/how-to-root-backup-drm-keys-t3013343 .
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Also, looking at that tutorial it doesn't seem to be necessary to have a rooted phone for that...
Why did I went then through the hassle of downgrading fw, gfrieroot hack and so on? *aaargh*
faxd said:
Also, looking at that tutorial it doesn't seem to be necessary to have a rooted phone for that...
Why did I went then through the hassle of downgrading fw, gfrieroot hack and so on? *aaargh*
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Well, because you need a recovery to flash the pre-rooted zip, and to have a recovery you have to root first. The pre-rooted SYSTEM partition cannot be flashed using Flashtool because it would not pass signature check. The only way to flash it is to use root access and a working recovery.
Edit: and that reminds me, if you have root but no recovery yet, install NUT's dual recovery first.

[Q] How to make a pre-root 5.1.1 ROM?

I have downloaded .368 ROM via XperiFirm, and is there any way to make a pre-root FTF?
Thanks for reading and replying ~
Hi, I somwhere heard an application PRF Creator. I am not familiar with this app but I think it is the base of creating pre-rooted FTF. I have found some tutorial looks pretty simple use for me.
http://techbeasts.com/2015/07/26/how-create-sony-xperia-pre-rooted-firmware-prf-creator/
I am going to try to create an FTF for my Z1 with this and flash on my device and then tell if that worked for me
Edit: Found an thread on XDA about this tool here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/crossdevice-dev/sony/tool-prfcreator-easily-create-pre-t2859904
Download PRFCreator, SuperSU, and XZDualRecovery. Point PRFCreator at the three other files (FTF, SuperSU zip, XZDR zip), click go, go have a cup of coffee. Job's done.
So I tried using this app and it made an .zip file instead of .ftf as i thought it would make. Is there anyway to make a pre-rooted .ftf?
You can make your pre-rooted firmware with that tool mentioned in other replies but if you want root on your device, you'll still need to have root or recovery if you don't have any of those you'll need to unlock yours bootloader(which I didn't want to do for my device because it wipes all data from device(It is possible to do a backup&restore from sony pc companion) in order to flash recovery and your fw.zip.
Or you can hang out a while until kingoroot or any other rooting apps will make root available for 5.1.1 xperia devices without recovery and/or with locked bootloader
Someone correct me if I am wrong at some point.
That is accurate. I have not seen any pre-rooted FTFs. Many people use the misnomer pre-rooted FTF to describe a flashable zip which has been pre-rooted.
We'll i just found out i was wrong about bootloader. You don't need to unlock bootloader instead you can downgrade your firmware check out this tut
http://techbeasts.com/2015/09/18/root-install-recovery-on-xperia-z1-android-511-146a0368-firmware/
Also the prerooted firmware you'll make with PRF Creator will be useful for this method
MrBratka said:
We'll i just found out i was wrong about bootloader. You don't need to unlock bootloader instead you can downgrade your firmware check out this tut
http://techbeasts.com/2015/09/18/root-install-recovery-on-xperia-z1-android-511-146a0368-firmware/
Also the prerooted firmware you'll make with PRF Creator will be useful for this method
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It seems you didn't red carefully enough.
Most tutorials here already describe that you don't need to unlock your bootloader.
But now you got it.
How to create a pre-rooted 5.1.1 stock ROM?
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ANSWER: Click here
Note: The guide is "How to create a pre-rooted 5.0.2 stock ROM" BUT the procedure on how to create a pre-rooted 5.1.1 stock ROM is exactly the same.

[Q] Question Before i do

My phone still unroot and locked Bootloader and Im made mistake upgrade to latest official stock ROM lollipop 5.1.1 bec im having overheat issues, battery draining and weird popup. then im about want to downgrade to kitkat and flash ftf firmware with root.
1) Do i have to Backup TA before i use flashtool? i think if i do flashtool, i will lose DRM keys like sony features? (for locked bootloader)
2) What meaning by 'pre-root' firmware? (*sorry about this. it look new word to me*)
3) without root phone and unlocked BL, is it possible to use PRFCreator? (link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z1/development/c6943-368-official-lollipop-5-1-1-t3218004)
I made decide not to unlocked bootloader bec i know its risk to lose but i want to keep it simple only.
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My phone still unroot and locked Bootloader and Im made mistake upgrade to latest official stock ROM lollipop 5.1.1 bec im having overheat issues, battery draining and weird popup. then im about want to downgrade to kitkat and flash ftf firmware with root.
1) Do i have to Backup TA before i use flashtool? i think if i do flashtool, i will lose DRM keys like sony features? (for locked bootloader)
2) What meaning by 'pre-root' firmware? (*sorry about this. it look new word to me*)
3) without root phone and unlocked BL, is it possible to use PRFCreator? (link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z1/development/c6943-368-official-lollipop-5-1-1-t3218004)
I made decide not to unlocked bootloader bec i know its risk to lose but i want to keep it simple only.
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you only need to backup your ta partition if you plan to unlock your bootloader. By Unlocking your bootloader you will lose your DRM keys. Anyways having a backup of your ta portion isn't nothing bad.
Using flashtool and flashing a stock firmware will not unlock your bootloader.
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A stock firmware comes unrooted. Pre rooted means that the firmware comes with root integrated.
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PRF Creator is a Programm you use under windows
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You have to understand what a ftf file and a flushable zip means.
Ftf files are flashed with flashtool.
Flushable zip files need a custom recovery to flash. For example twrp or cwm or philz recovery. To get a custom recovery on your phone your phone has to be rooted.
motorazrv3 said:
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you only need to backup your ta partition if you plan to unlock your bootloader. By Unlocking your bootloader you will lose your DRM keys. Anyways having a backup of your ta portion isn't nothing bad.
Using flashtool and flashing a stock firmware will not unlock your bootloader.
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A stock firmware comes unrooted. Pre rooted means that the firmware comes with root integrated.
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PRF Creator is a Programm you use under windows
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You have to understand what a ftf file and a flushable zip means.
Ftf files are flashed with flashtool.
Flushable zip files need a custom recovery to flash. For example twrp or cwm or philz recovery. To get a custom recovery on your phone your phone has to be rooted.
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1) If i flash custom firmware will not touch bootloader? (im planning to install custom rom from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2716182) but their instruction said "for Locked bootloader only: Backup TA Partition"? does this mean will unlock bootloader? (**im confuse**).
3) Yeah run on windows only but is it possible to use it without root phone and unlocked BL ?
alienx2 said:
1) If i flash custom firmware will not touch bootloader? (im planning to install custom rom from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2716182) but their instruction said "for Locked bootloader only: Backup TA Partition"? does this mean will unlock bootloader? (**im confuse**).
3) Yeah run on windows only but is it possible to use it without root phone and unlocked BL ?
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1. Yes, you need to unlock the Bootloader.
2. You can use Flashtool to flash STOCK FTF on your phone.
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Deathschythe33 said:
1. Yes, you need to unlock the Bootloader.
2. You can use Flashtool to flash STOCK FTF on your phone.
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1) iHackers v6.2 rom will unlock your bootloader?
2) i mean PRFCreator?
alienx2 said:
1) If i flash custom firmware will not touch bootloader? (im planning to install custom rom from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2716182) but their instruction said "for Locked bootloader only: Backup TA Partition"? does this mean will unlock bootloader? (**im confuse**).
3) Yeah run on windows only but is it possible to use it without root phone and unlocked BL ?
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PRF Creator is a stand alone Programm that doesn't require a phone.
It only needs files as input and the result is a flashable zip you must flash with a custom recovery
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alienx2 said:
1) iHackers v6.2 rom will unlock your bootloader?
2) i mean PRFCreator?
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No.
This zip will launch a program called aroma installer. With this program you will be asked what you want to install.
For example the description of iHackers rom says that you have to choose between stock or custom kernel.
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To flash a custom rom or custom bootloader you must unlock your bootloader first. If not you can't flash anything custom.
You can unlock your bootloader with flashtool. For that you need the unlock key for your bootloader. You do this in fastboot mode with the help a flashtool.
Flashing a ftf the phone is in flashmode.
Fastboot mode and flash mode are two different states you can put your phone at.
motorazrv3 said:
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PRF Creator is a stand alone Programm that doesn't require a phone.
It only needs files as input and the result is a flashable zip you must flash with a custom recovery
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No.
This zip will launch a program called aroma installer. With this program you will be asked what you want to install.
For example the description of iHackers rom says that you have to choose between stock or custom kernel.
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To flash a custom rom or custom bootloader you must unlock your bootloader first. If not you can't flash anything custom.
You can unlock your bootloader with flashtool. For that you need the unlock key for your bootloader. You do this in fastboot mode with the help a flashtool.
Flashing a ftf the phone is in flashmode.
Fastboot mode and flash mode are two different states you can put your phone at.
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What if i want ihackers 6.2 rom Aroma edition on my phone (locked BL)? then can be? I prefer untouched bootloader and stock kernel on my phone.
alienx2 said:
What if i want ihackers 6.2 rom Aroma edition on my phone (locked BL)? then can be? I prefer untouched bootloader and stock kernel on my phone.
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I am not sure. As far as I understand yes if you choose locked bootloader.
Maybe some other member can help here too.
But to flash the zip you need a custom recovery. For a custom recovery you need root to install it.
Post #4 at ihackers rom Threads mentions the step to flash the rom on a phone with locked bootloader. Not that easy!
Answer is Yes. I've already tried iHackers ROM on my Z1 w/ locked bootloader. I don't want to be rude or anything but all your questions are answerable by going through some basic reading materials that are all available in XDA. I strongly recommend you do your reading first. We don't want you coming back at us saying you now have an expensive paper weight, or that you have lost some important audio, video, image, SMS, MMS, Contact, etc. on your phone. It would really help alot if you read the iHackers ROM thread as well.
You did state on your initial post that you want to keep things simple. Then I suggest rooting your phone, get rid of the apps you won't ever use and just keep it stock.
motorazrv3 said:
I am not sure. As far as I understand yes if you choose locked bootloader.
Maybe some other member can help here too.
But to flash the zip you need a custom recovery. For a custom recovery you need root to install it.
Post #4 at ihackers rom Threads mentions the step to flash the rom on a phone with locked bootloader. Not that easy!
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Thanks i understand now.
Deathschythe33 said:
Answer is Yes. I've already tried iHackers ROM on my Z1 w/ locked bootloader. I don't want to be rude or anything but all your questions are answerable by going through some basic reading materials that are all available in XDA. I strongly recommend you do your reading first. We don't want you coming back at us saying you now have an expensive paper weight, or that you have lost some important audio, video, image, SMS, MMS, Contact, etc. on your phone. It would really help alot if you read the iHackers ROM thread as well.
You did state on your initial post that you want to keep things simple. Then I suggest rooting your phone, get rid of the apps you won't ever use and just keep it stock.
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Thanks. I already research alot and i was making sure if its safe with locked bootloader. but now i will follow their instruction of iHackers ROM. Before i do, I'm prepare to backup. =)
alienx2 said:
Thanks i understand now.
Thanks. I already research alot and i was making sure if its safe with locked bootloader. but now i will follow their instruction of iHackers ROM. Before i do, I'm prepare to backup. =)
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Cool.
alienx2 said:
My phone still unroot and locked Bootloader and Im made mistake upgrade to latest official stock ROM lollipop 5.1.1 bec im having overheat issues, battery draining and weird popup. then im about want to downgrade to kitkat and flash ftf firmware with root.
1) Do i have to Backup TA before i use flashtool? i think if i do flashtool, i will lose DRM keys like sony features? (for locked bootloader)
2) What meaning by 'pre-root' firmware? (*sorry about this. it look new word to me*)
3) without root phone and unlocked BL, is it possible to use PRFCreator? (link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z1/development/c6943-368-official-lollipop-5-1-1-t3218004)
I made decide not to unlocked bootloader bec i know its risk to lose but i want to keep it simple only.
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I just want to answer this and sum it all up.
Do i have to Backup TA before i use flashtool? i think if i do flashtool No, you don't need to Backup your TA partition to use Flashtool. Flashtool works for both locked & unlocked bootloaders.
i will lose DRM keys like sony features? (for locked bootloader) I'll treat this as a separate question. Yes when you unlock your bootloader you will loose your DRM keys, which is why you need to backup your TA partition first before you unlock your bootloader. But as I mentioned earlier - No, you don't need to backup your TA partition if you will not unlock your bootlader. And -No, it is not needed to be able to use flashtool.
What meaning by 'pre-root' firmware? It means it is a stock Firmware that has root access. It is basically your stock firmware that was ran through PFRCreator.
without root phone and unlocked BL, is it possible to use PRFCreator? It's basically like this... NOTE: This is a not-so-details procedure but it will give you an idea on what the PRFCreator is. So the answer is Yes, it is possible to use PRFCreator with a locked bootloader but you need to have a rooted phone with a custom recovery so you can flash the pre-rooted 5.1.1 *.zip file you made, then flash the 5.1.1 FTF using Flashtool
1. Install flashtool
2. Download a 5.1.1 FTF using XperiFirm (it's an icon in Flashtool that opens a FTF downloader that automatically unpacks and makes you a FTF that you can flash on your phone)
3. Download PFRCreator
4. Using PRFCreator you basically create your very own pre-rooted 5.1.1
5. Now you have Two(2) files - the flashable *.ZIP file (the file generated by PRFCreator) and the 5.1.1 FTF you have downloaded earlier
6. You will need to root your phone and install a custom recovery partition on your phone so you can flash the *.zip file you have created using PRFCreator, then flash the 5.1.1 FTF using flashtool
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