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Froyo battery usage

Hi and greetings from Desire forum
There are few Froyo ports/source builds for HTC Desire. All of the seems to have huge display battery drain (which can be seen in settings/battery usage) for about 80%. Do you might to check how much display is draining on N1 Froyo?
Thx

It is all relative to each other in that screen. If your display is a really high number, then it means that the system, apps, and everything else on your phone is using much less battery.
With the Froyo update, things run faster, and thus finish faster. Using less battery time. The only thing that can't change is the Display amount.
So really, the fact display went up is an awesome thing

Clarkster said:
It is all relative to each other in that screen. If your display is a really high number, then it means that the system, apps, and everything else on your phone is using much less battery.
With the Froyo update, things run faster, and thus finish faster. Using less battery time. The only thing that can't change is the Display amount.
So really, the fact display went up is an awesome thing
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Do you mind to check whats your N1 says about it?

I could. My Display is higher than all the others too 75%. But it all really depends on how you use it. I've only had my phone off the charger for an hour or so and browsed a lot with it already.
Unless I do the exact same thing as you, visit the same sites, have the brightness the same for the same duration you had, it is impossible to compare numbers.
The usage is a percentage of time since last unplugged of what each part of your phone used. If I unplugged it and never turned the phone on. Someone phoned me and I talked for an hour, then the display would be very little and the phone would be 80%.
It all depends on the usage.

hopefully you're right and this is just one of the froyo features

ART mode and RAM managment..?

I switched to ART mode mode this morning since I read that its faster and wanted to give it a go. However I have read about it but am not totally an expert. When I switched over it booted then rebooted to the ATT logo and hung. I had to use the 3-button combo to get back again after a huge heat up.
Anyway I now notice that in the RAM manager from the home screen I get for example 1.24gb/1.81 like normal and now where I would have had the same reading in Applications Manager In Settings I now get 0.98gb used - 870mb free in "Running". The way it reads seems to have changed and doesnt match the other.
Is any one else using ART and can share some experience on this at all.
Ive Also seen a post about someone mentioning bad signal on ART...?
Cheers.

cooza said:
I switched to ART mode mode this morning since I read that its faster and wanted to give it a go. However I have read about it but am not totally an expert. When I switched over it booted then rebooted to the ATT logo and hung. I had to use the 3-button combo to get back again after a huge heat up.
Anyway I now notice that in the RAM manager from the home screen I get for example 1.24gb/1.81 like normal and now where I would have had the same reading in Applications Manager In Settings I now get 0.98gb used - 870mb free in "Running". The way it reads seems to have changed and doesnt match the other.
Is any one else using ART and can share some experience on this at all.
Ive Also seen a post about someone mentioning bad signal on ART...?
Cheers.
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I don't have root or anything to flash, why not test art?
I do notice a disparity as well, but mine is a little less prevolent-- my variation i think is as simple as fluctuation between redraw in between the two screens. I get 870/874used 0.96/0.95free-- I will say though, it seems to use a little less ram.
I live in a very strong signal area and that said, i don't see any signal difference. I do know some low areas so i can update once I've visited.
I did encounter the lockup at AT&T, that just required a reboot.

Yeah mate with no root for Roms I thought why not try it. I use a third party launcher called lucid and do notice a big improvement in scrolling between home screens and apps relaunching. I was a bit concerned about the different readings in the 2 ram managers and the freeze on boot but so far no issues. Just wondering how others are going and if they are using it since it wasn't in other Samsung devices too.

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Yeah mate with no root for Roms I thought why not try it. I use a third party launcher called lucid and do notice a big improvement in scrolling between home screens and apps relaunching. I was a bit concerned about the different readings in the 2 ram managers and the freeze on boot but so far no issues. Just wondering how others are going and if they are using it since it wasn't in other Samsung devices too.
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I use Nova Launcher, tried Aviate and Atom, I'll look at Lucid.
I also turned off all animation transitions in Dev mode. It's snappy enough to fly between screens instantly, also if you're not aware-- old pro move-- go into S-Voice(if you don't use it, but nobody does) and disable the double tap home function and then home key lag will be gone and the phone FLIES.

byte9 said:
I use Nova Launcher, tried Aviate and Atom, I'll look at Lucid.
I also turned off all animation transitions in Dev mode. It's snappy enough to fly between screens instantly, also if you're not aware-- old pro move-- go into S-Voice(if you don't use it, but nobody does) and disable the double tap home function and then home key lag will be gone and the phone FLIES.
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Cheers mate I'll give that a go. Lucid is a good launcher if you like vertical scrolling. I prefer that on these slightly bigger screens. Also icon resizing. Only set back is no folders. It's also got a side panel for short cuts just like in AOKP. You gotta like it or you will find it hard to get use to I guess.

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Cheers mate I'll give that a go. Lucid is a good launcher if you like vertical scrolling. I prefer that on these slightly bigger screens. Also icon resizing. Only set back is no folders. It's also got a side panel for short cuts just like in AOKP. You gotta like it or you will find it hard to get use to I guess.
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Give the 0transition and no lag a go- it's like a new phone.
Have you ever tried Nova? It has vertical scrolling and icon resizing with folders. The side drawer though I don't really dig.
Have you any legacy apps onboard? I haven't installed older games yet, I'm sure some things will just crash fail.

You have to remember that even though ART is included on the S5s it is still considered experimental and has not been optimized yet.

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You have to remember that even though ART is included on the S5s it is still considered experimental and has not been optimized yet.
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Of course, nobody forgot this. It runs very well so far. I've tested it with all my daily driver applications and a few games that aren't updated for it and I've good results so far.

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You have to remember that even though ART is included on the S5s it is still considered experimental and has not been optimized yet.
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Yeah that's kinda what I thought since I haven't seen it in any other of my devices. Wouldn't mind seeing if anyone else is giving it a go. Was a bit worried after the freeze mate. Thought I was heading for a brick

Seems that ART is good on battery life. After 12 hours I still have 70% left where as I would usually have about 40-50%. Looks like using less RAM and opening apps faster is paying off.

cooza said:
Seems that ART is good on battery life. After 12 hours I still have 70% left where as I would usually have about 40-50%. Looks like using less RAM and opening apps faster is paying off.
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It's an odd duck, my statistics seem to be garbage but the battery is doing quite well in visible usability. My battery usage stats have Android system @ 22% with Screen on time @ 20% w 4.5hrs(on) and the battery is just now at 46% I can easily hit 6.5-7hrs @ this rate, screen time and who knows what Android system will be at but i have no gdamn accuracy in the numbers other than the screen hours on that add up.
We shall see since I believe both of our Art switches were in the middle of a Dalvik discharge cycle, perhaps borked it all up until next full stats flush/100% charge.

I use Apex Launcher

My first run on ART and I get this. I don't know much about battery drain on this setting but it's consistent. On dalvik I had to charge every night.
1 day and 12 hours. So I'm getting slightly over 50% more.
That's also with the gear2 synced which should take more battery too.

First full charge on ART got 1 day 2 hours and 48 minutes, with 3 hours and 36 minutes on time. Had 37% left. Not bad at all.

ART has mostly eliminated the annoying unlock hangup that I was seeing. As for battery life I can't really tell a major difference; although coming from the i717 going a whole day is a miracle. Most days I end the workday after about 12 hours off charger with 40-50% battery.
If I forget to turn off the hotspot after using it I may see 30%, but that is after 8 hrs streaming data to my tablet and GPS on the old Note.

delawaredrew said:
ART has mostly eliminated the annoying unlock hangup that I was seeing. As for battery life I can't really tell a major difference; although coming from the i717 going a whole day is a miracle. Most days I end the workday after about 12 hours off charger with 40-50% battery.
If I forget to turn off the hotspot after using it I may see 30%, but that is after 8 hrs streaming data to my tablet and GPS on the old Note.
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You won't see a MAJOR difference between Art and Dalvik. People would like to see it but it isn't there. A few sites have done more imperical things* that said mostly it's close to even with some gains. It's just better in performance of apps you use often, in short.
* http://lifehacker.com/android-art-vs-dalvik-runtimes-effect-on-battery-life-1507264545

Just switched to ART today.....so far so good. All my daily driver apps are working great. Seems like switching to ART free'd up some RAM, im now using like 0.96 gb instead of 1.2 or so.

ikerex said:
Just switched to ART today.....so far so good. All my daily driver apps are working great. Seems like switching to ART free'd up some RAM, im now using like 0.96 gb instead of 1.2 or so.
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I definitely see some improvement in ram usage. I think this is what is also helping with her battery consumption. The only issue I do have is if I run the battery completely out or just need to reboot then it may stick on the boot logo and need the 3-button combo method to get our of it or even pulling the battery. Might happen 1 in every 4 times but worth it for the extra sharpness in performance. I'm happy with it so far.

Aftet switching to ART ive had lags all arund phone ,,, not much difference in baterry tho

I do have a lot of apps turned off and I am using a different launcher so maybe that helps. Not much extra installed either.

Terrible phone

Has anyone else had these issues? I am planning to take this phone back tomorrow. The touch screen is completely random. It'll randomly scroll fast or click while scrolling. Playing games is near impossible because it won't recognize every touch. As i type this, it seems to randomly repeat words that i type and i have to delete them. The battery life for a new phone seems terrible. I had better battery life with my 1+ year old S5 with the original battery. If the phone is hot at all (which seems to happen randomly as well) it'll take hours to charge and the battery will drain incredibly quick. I charged it for around 6 hours and it was still at 60%, using the factory charger too. This is the worst experience I've had with a new "high end" android phonephonw (theres theres the double word issue i mentioned. Even did it while typing about the double word issue lol)

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Has anyone else had these issues? I am planning to take this phone back tomorrow. The touch screen is completely random. It'll randomly scroll fast or click while scrolling. Playing games is near impossible because it won't recognize every touch. As i type this, it seems to randomly repeat words that i type and i have to delete them. The battery life for a new phone seems terrible. I had better battery life with my 1+ year old S5 with the original battery. If the phone is hot at all (which seems to happen randomly as well) it'll take hours to charge and the battery will drain incredibly quick. I charged it for around 6 hours and it was still at 60%, using the factory charger too. This is the worst experience I've had with a new "high end" android phonephonw (theres theres the double word issue i mentioned. Even did it while typing about the double word issue lol)
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What firmware version are you running? Some of the things mentioned above have been fixed with latest OTA.

Android is 5.1. I've checked all updates and none are available

Phone model?
Sent from my Micromax A110 using XDA Free mobile app

Try a factory reset. I don't have any issues at all, just the slow capture speed of the camera. Kids move and its blurry. Google camera seems to be a little better...

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Android is 5.1. I've checked all updates and none are available
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Check settngs - About Phone - Software info and see if your software version is LS991ZV5. This version of the software fixed the touchscreen for me. If you haven't received it yet, you may check your local Sprint repair center store and see if they can force a download for you.

I still have the touch screen problems with zv5

Worse battery life since the Oreo update

Since the update, I have definitely experienced worse battery life, especially overnight on standby/idle and also overall when I'm at home on WiFi in general, I have read a few posts about the November security patch causing worse battery on a lot of different phones so I don't know if it is because of that, I just hope either the December patch sorts it, or HMD make the battery optimisation better in the next update patch from them soon, has anyone else noticed worse battery performance since Oreo?

Doesn't seem any different to me ill be honest.

For me it even seems to be a little bit better than on Nougat.

I have stellar battery life all together but standby could be better. The other night I lost 3-4% over night and that is more than the usual 1-2% I'm used to on my phones. Not something to get upset about really but something I've noticed.

No battery drain here, my opinion seems the same good as on nougat to
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Me too. I have a little better battery performance since Oreo.
Although I'm a battery drain. I only have 18 apps allowed to work in background. I have enabled "Clean background activities" in battery menu too.

mikote2000 said:
Me too. I have a little better battery performance since Oreo.
Although I'm a battery drain. I only have 18 apps allowed to work in background. I have enabled "Clean background activities" in battery menu too.
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Where's the clean background activities?
Can't see it on mine.

Sorry, I'm a Spanish speaker and I made a free translation. I attach you a screenshot. Maybe it can help you to find the menu. It's the first option (Option which is switched on).
https://1drv.ms/i/s!Asos2XZUuAPZnK1E20Hva6npEr2INw

mitchst2 said:
Where's the clean background activities?
Can't see it on mine.
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Go settings, battery look for background activity manager.
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2WildFirE said:
Go settings, battery look for background activity manager.
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Ok already using that, was looking for some sort of global switch.

All of my apps are in the whitelist and are allowed to do as they please, seems a pointless feature to me.

MrBelter said:
All of my apps are in the whitelist and are allowed to do as they please, seems a pointless feature to me.
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Not to me. I don't want the likes of Facebook running all the time. I'll check it when I can be bothered. Otherwise I want it dead dead dead.

mitchst2 said:
Not to me. I don't want the likes of Facebook running all the time. I'll check it when I can be bothered. Otherwise I want it dead dead dead.
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Just turn off notifications for the app you are using, the only app i get notifications from is Gmail everything else can wait.
I was at 8 hours SOT yesterday with 32% battery left, like i said it seem a pointless feature.

dannejanne said:
I have stellar battery life all together but standby could be better. The other night I lost 3-4% over night and that is more than the usual 1-2% I'm used to on my phones. Not something to get upset about really but something I've noticed.
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Battery on oreo is awesome, if you want less energy use during sleep use "naptime" from playstore.

MrBelter said:
Just turn off notifications for the app you are using, the only app i get notifications from is Gmail everything else can wait.
I was at 8 hours SOT yesterday with 32% battery left, like i said it seem a pointless feature.
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Not just notifications I don't want Facebook or the likes doing anything in the background so for me useful that way. Not necessarily for battery.

mitchst2 said:
Not just notifications I don't want Facebook or the likes doing anything in the background so for me useful that way. Not necessarily for battery.
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If they aren't consuming battery what are they doing that is so scary you need to disable them from running in the background? Serious question BTW i am not taking the mic.

MrBelter said:
If they aren't consuming battery what are they doing that is so scary you need to disable them from running in the background? Serious question BTW i am not taking the mic.
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The point is I don't need them doing anything in the background, nothing, NADA, zip, no matter what it is they might be doing I don't need it.
The apps I do need are switched on.
This is personal preference buddy.

mitchst2 said:
The point is I don't need them doing anything in the background, nothing, NADA, zip, no matter what it is they might be doing I don't need it.
The apps I do need are switched on.
This is personal preference buddy.
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Same here, I have most of my apps disabled apart from things that actually need to be running like PingID for work authentication / MS Authenticator / emails and 4 or 5 other things.

Try "data saver" if you have that option in your OREO ROM
Yes I did say DATA saver
Go to Settings - type "data saver" in the search box - switch it on
Works magic for me with a standard OREO ROM and nothing else.

since 8.1 update, battery draining has been worse

Android 10 One UI 2 Battery and Performance

for those who got the final update, or had the beta, how is the battery life and general performance compared with PIE ?

Mine is snappier and battery life is better.

izmenar said:
for those who got the final update, or had the beta, how is the battery life and general performance compared with PIE ?
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The battery life is slightly increased and rest every thing is okay.
Was a beta user. Exynos variant. Im sure the battery life and performance of Snapdragon variants would go more better. Exynos always sucks.

I think battery is better, lets see the rest

Mine is about the same. In the beta forums it seems to be all over the place though, some are happy, some not so much.

Any changes in the camera quality ?

My Exynos S10 used to reach 30-40+ hours of battery time on P (mostly web whatsapp and regular phone calls, no games at all, see pic).
After upgrading to stable Q, juice can't even give me 30 hours. As I see it, in my case Q is clearly the culprit.
SOT is not a valid metric for me, as I'm always on web whatsapp -- lots of use, no screen on.

Stable version of Q. Better battery for me

2 hours of screen
It takes me 2 hours of screen. plz heeelp

natmaster said:
It takes me 2 hours of screen. plz heeelp
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For starters, try and disable the following settings, case they are on:
. location
. bluetooth
. AOD
. NFC
. WiFi (case mobile data is suitable for you)
<Display>:
. set screen brightness to something around 50% (middle of the bar).
. set <Screen timeout> to , say, 30 seconds.
. set <Screen saver> to "none"
<Device care> / <Battery>:
. set <Power Mode> to "optimized"
. set <Adaptive power saving> to "on".
As for apps, Facebook is known to be a huge juice drainer.
Let me know how this works for you,
Cheers

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For starters, try and disable the following settings, case they are on:
. location
. bluetooth
. AOD
. NFC
. WiFi (case mobile data is suitable for you)
<Display>:
. set screen brightness to something around 50% (middle of the bar).
. set <Screen timeout> to , say, 30 seconds.
. set <Screen saver> to "none"
<Device care> / <Battery>:
. set <Power Mode> to "optimized"
. set <Adaptive power saving> to "on".
As for apps, Facebook is known to be a huge juice drainer.
Let me know how this works for you,
Cheers
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Disabling everything isn't the solution.... Something must have gone wrong during the update process. I have everything on and I have a great battery life. Maybe trying a factory reset for example (even if it's annoying)

battery is marginally better on mine, after the update i entered the stock recovery and wiped cache, i dont know if that does anything.One UI 2 is very underwhelming, not many changes

Mini Jay said:
Disabling everything isn't the solution.... Something must have gone wrong during the update process. I have everything on and I have a great battery life. Maybe trying a factory reset for example (even if it's annoying)
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Disabling everything is for quick diagnosing purposes, for identifying shady component(s), not meant to be a solution. Think of a box that won't start. You start by ruling out PSU, then memory modules, video card, and so on. Sure, in the OP case update issues must be considered, as well as third party software.
Cheers

My phone feels great after the update. Fast and smooth, the battery is the same, gets me through the day with Wi-Fi,BT and mobile data on all the time.
Love the new animations but the gesture navigation needs improvement, especially when switching between apps. Overall great update.
Thanks you Samsung!

ram usage increased too...

I agreed. I'm on the stable version of android 10. I have a Galaxy S10 G973U and It is on T-Mobile. Battery Life has steadily gotten worse for me starting from the October security update and it is much worse on One ui 2.0. Overnight, I lost 15 PERCENT CHARGE. I don't know what to do. I'm not sure if its a problem with my device or a widespread issue and just a problem with the software. Pls help. I called samsung to report this 3 times and they referred me to a repair shop. I don't want to go to the shop unless I am hundred percent sure that this is an issue only with my phone. g973u1 users are reporting excellent battery life and some g973u users are reporting bad battery life. Pls help.

In only 2h of screen time, I've lost 40% of my battery and I was a 100%.
Few web browsing and some texts and Spotify playlist in the background.
Is there anyway to optimize the battery life on One ui 2.0?

Gotta love these "how's the battery life?" threads.
Mine is better.
Mine is worse.
Mine is about the same
Camera quality decreased
Phone runs hotter
Uses more ram
It ruined my marriage
The phone got bigger for some reason
And so forth...

For me its about the same

Hi. as I get the view of the battery life as it was in android 9¡? While still not understand view of the battery life in android 10