Hi,
Just for grins I clicked software update to see if there was anything available it came up and downloaded a 66MB update file. Anyone know what it is?
I am not the guinea pig for this, don't want to break root by accident. I'm currently on NC9 4.4.2 rooted by Sunderwear's method.
APeter001 said:
Hi,
Just for grins I clicked software update to see if there was anything available it came up and downloaded a 66MB update file. Anyone know what it is?
I am not the guinea pig for this, don't want to break root by accident. I'm currently on NC9 4.4.2 rooted by Sunderwear's method.
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That is a update file that will update the phone from NC9 to NE3. It is an update that is supposed to fix all the things that the original 4.4.2 update broke. If you could, would you mind uploading the cfg file that is located in /cache/fota/?
We have the file that will update ML2 to NE3 (485MB), but we don't have this one. It would be a huge help if you could grab that file before it installs itself.
To answer your question about root, I'm going to bet that it will fail to install because you have root. But if it does install then you will most definitely lose root, however we have a root method for NE3 that can be found in this thread.
Please, please, please try to get that file, it would be a huge help.
Devo7v said:
That is a update file that will update the phone from NC9 to NE3. It is an update that is supposed to fix all the things that the original 4.4.2 update broke. If you could, would you mind uploading the cfg file that is located in /cache/fota/?
Please, please, please try to get that file, it would be a huge help.
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Unable to find that location can you provide a complete path?
APeter001 said:
Unable to find that location can you provide a complete path?
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Try /data/fota/ instead. Basically you need to find a cfg file in the fota folder but for some reason the fota folder is in a different location for different versions of firmware.
Devo7v said:
Try /data/fota/ instead. Basically you need to find a cfg file in the fota folder but for some reason the fota folder is in a different location for different versions of firmware.
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File uploaded to Google drive and PM sent. I was looking from the wrong end.. not in root files
You're right, btw, it did not complete install. Hung at 25% and rebooted back to 4.4.2 root
APeter001 said:
You're right, btw, it did not complete install. Hung at 25% and rebooted back to 4.4.2 root
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If you're happy with your firmware right now and there are bugs, there's really no reason to update.
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I'm requesting someone find the Odin files to flash to an i537 model for KitKat 4.4.2, as I can't find it anywhere. If I can't, I'll go to Samsung at Best Buy and uh..... Ask for the Odin files(they use Odin there XD)
Please help as ODIN is the only way I have been able to update, OTAs fail and recovery install from cache, external SD fails. Everything but Odin fails, so anybody help?
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SGH-i537 AT&T running 4.3 Official Unrooted Stock
Thanks!!!
Have you tried flashing the 4.3 firmware then flashing the OTA? At this time I don't think they have released a full Odin 4.4.2
popfan said:
Have you tried flashing the 4.3 firmware then flashing the OTA? At this time I don't think they have released a full Odin 4.4.2
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Yeah, I tried it all my friend, I need the Odin files.
yes i too in fact need the odin files asap. I know nobody likes being asked for ETA's but how long does it usually take to get the ODIN files?
jimmietilt said:
yes i too in fact need the odin files asap. I know nobody likes being asked for ETA's but how long does it usually take to get the ODIN files?
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Considering we never got the Odin files for MF2 or MF3, we may never get Odin files for NC9.
Just do a hard reset (VOL+/HOME/POWER), boot your phone then do a Factory reset from within the phone with selecting format SD card option (back your stuff up!). Then go back, enable USB debugging and flash the stock ML2 firmware EXCEPT for the BL file! then re-enable USB debugging and download the 2400258.cfg file from here, rename it to update.zip and flash it via stock recovery, problem solved. As for the ODIN files, here's a good read on why @Devo7v is right with his assessment on not ever seeing them. More info on the stock SGH-i537 firmware here.
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Just do a hard reset (VOL+/HOME/POWER), boot your phone then do a Factory reset from within the phone with selecting format SD card option (back your stuff up!). Then go back, enable USB debugging and flash the stock ML2 firmware EXCEPT for the BL file! then re-enable USB debugging and download the 2400258.cfg file from here, rename it to update.zip and flash it via stock recovery, problem solved. As for the ODIN files, here's a good read on why @Devo7v is right with his assessment on not ever seeing them. More info on the stock SGH-i537 firmware here.
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I tried that. Didn't work XD The only thing that works for me is forcing the update through ODIN.
Devildude24 said:
I tried that. Didn't work XD The only thing that works for me is forcing the update through ODIN.
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How are you forcing the update through Odin? We don't have the Odin files for 4.4.2, so I'm not sure what you mean. Do you mean you can only flash the 4.3 files with Odin and you cannot get the cfg file to flash through stock recovery?
Devo7v said:
How are you forcing the update through Odin? We don't have the Odin files for 4.4.2, so I'm not sure what you mean. Do you mean you can only flash the 4.3 files with Odin and you cannot get the cfg file to flash through stock recovery?
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Yes, sorry for the confusion. I forced 4.3 through ODIN and the cfg file doesn't work, in all possible ways. And it won't work when renamed to update.zip either.
Devildude24 said:
Yes, sorry for the confusion. I forced 4.3 through ODIN and the cfg file doesn't work, in all possible ways. And it won't work when renamed to update.zip either.
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Did you check the MD5 to make sure that it downloaded properly? My suggestion would be to download it with a computer, rename it to "update.zip" on a computer, copy it to your internal memory on the phone, and flash it through stock recovery. This should work, what errors do you get when you try to flash it? You're on stock 4.3 when you try to update, correct? In order to flash the OTA you cannot be rooted or have modified the system in any way.
Devo7v said:
Did you check the MD5 to make sure that it downloaded properly? My suggestion would be to download it with a computer, rename it to "update.zip" on a computer, copy it to your internal memory on the phone, and flash it through stock recovery. This should work, what errors do you get when you try to flash it? You're on stock 4.3 when you try to update, correct? In order to flash the OTA you cannot be rooted or have modified the system in any way.
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Good advice and I'll further add make sure when you rename the 2400258.cfg that you have known file extensions enabled and then right click and highlight the entire file "2400258.cfg" and then rename that to "update.zip"
Trust us, this will work.
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jkeuclid said:
Good advice and I'll further add make sure when you rename the 2400258.cfg that you have known file extensions enabled and then right click and highlight the entire file "2400258.cfg" and then rename that to "update.zip"
Trust us, this will work.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I537 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
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Yeah, I tried that. I tried everything, literally everything. Like Samsung told me they couldn't help me unless I sent it in. (Probably just send a replacement or do a full reset with a new partition and data)
Devildude24 said:
Yeah, I tried that. I tried everything, literally everything. Like Samsung told me they couldn't help me unless I sent it in. (Probably just send a replacement or do a full reset with a new partition and data)
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I'm almost positive you're doing something wrong since you're the only one that is having this problem. I know @jkeuclid has already walked one person through this process step-by-step, I don't want to speak for him but he'd probably be willing to do the same for you.
Devo7v said:
I'm almost positive you're doing something wrong since you're the only one that is having this problem. I know @jkeuclid has already walked one person through this process step-by-step, I don't want to speak for him but he'd probably be willing to do the same for you.
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Thank you. UPDATE-
I checked, my Baseband version and Build Number don't match.... MF1 vs. ML2. So that could be presenting some of the problem. I'm going to try to find a partition file for stick 4.3 then rehash everything through ODIN and attempt an update. Any other suggestions anyone?
Devildude24 said:
Thank you. UPDATE-
I checked, my Baseband version and Build Number don't match.... MF1 vs. ML2. So that could be presenting some of the problem. I'm going to try to find a partition file for stick 4.3 then rehash everything through ODIN and attempt an update. Any other suggestions anyone?
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Did you ever figured this out? I'm having the same issue. Can't update using the cfg file.
Just my quess but the OP and others in this thread have possibly problem understanding relationship of Odin with Stock Recovery
If your phone is stock 4.3 and you have the 444 MB update renamed to update.zip already moved over to microSD card.....
See if this little video helps you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8TOJkBOZfs
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I'm requesting someone find the Odin files to flash to an i537 model for KitKat 4.4.2, as I can't find it anywhere. If I can't, I'll go to Samsung at Best Buy and uh..... Ask for the Odin files(they use Odin there XD)
Please help as ODIN is the only way I have been able to update, OTAs fail and recovery install from cache, external SD fails. Everything but Odin fails, so anybody help?
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Please I need your help, I was trying to upgrade to 4.4 from 4.3 ML2, on i537, but when i did, I lost my wifi and camera and media, (I mean , I cant play any song, show me a message that cant play, "File not Suppoted') anyways, the help that I need is if you can help me with your stock rom, so I can flash my phone with your files, please. Im downgrade to 4.3 again and I used one backup that I did before upgrade, but still not work wifi and media, I already flashed the moden.bin from xda to fix wifi, but still not work, I want to try to flash a Real stock rom, and see what happen, cause Im very stress...
Whenever I used to try to update my phone from 4.4.2 to 4.4.4, my phone would say the installation was interrupted, and kies would say my firmware is up to date. At the time I didnt care much, but now that 5.0 is out, I want to figure this out. When I got my phone in September I flashed the original software to root, then reflashed 4.4.2. Since then I unrooted and restores my phone to try and resolve the problem, but neither have helped. Does anyone know a solution? If any more information is needed I can definitely provide it.
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Whenever I used to try to update my phone from 4.4.2 to 4.4.4, my phone would say the installation was interrupted, and kies would say my firmware is up to date. At the time I didnt care much, but now that 5.0 is out, I want to figure this out. When I got my phone in September I flashed the original software to root, then reflashed 4.4.2. Since then I unrooted and restores my phone to try and resolve the problem, but neither have helped. Does anyone know a solution? If any more information is needed I can definitely provide it.
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I have the same problem on my side. I haven't even ever rooted the phone. Always the same error. I have posted this issue here, lets see if some one replies.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/att...ipop-coming-soon-t3030721/page18#post59986756
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Whenever I used to try to update my phone from 4.4.2 to 4.4.4, my phone would say the installation was interrupted, and kies would say my firmware is up to date. At the time I didnt care much, but now that 5.0 is out, I want to figure this out. When I got my phone in September I flashed the original software to root, then reflashed 4.4.2. Since then I unrooted and restores my phone to try and resolve the problem, but neither have helped. Does anyone know a solution? If any more information is needed I can definitely provide it.
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I had the same issue I used the files from this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/att-galaxy-s5/general/how-to-root-g900aucu2aoa1-4-4-4-2-3-2015-t3021120 under troubleshooting I first downloaded and then flashed the file to downgrade to nce. Then downloaded the nce to ng3 ota file and sideloaded and flashed in stock recovery after that I have been able to download and update via the ota. hope this helps
doing that process
I can manage the first flash but I'm not really that good at this so how would I go about doing that second flash?
SyslogPlease said:
I can manage the first flash but I'm not really that good at this so how would I go about doing that second flash?
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You need to place the update file on your ext sdcard then boot into stock recovery and update from ext sdcard.
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I had the same issue I used the files from this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/att-galaxy-s5/general/how-to-root-g900aucu2aoa1-4-4-4-2-3-2015-t3021120 under troubleshooting I first downloaded and then flashed the file to downgrade to nce. Then downloaded the nce to ng3 ota file and sideloaded and flashed in stock recovery after that I have been able to download and update via the ota. hope this helps
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Last questions are how to go into stock recovery and once I do that its all normal again?
How to boot Samsung Galaxy S5 Recovery Mode:
Power off your device completely.
Boot recovery mode by pressing and holding Volume Up, Home and Power, all at the same time.
Release all buttons when the Galaxy S5 screen flickers and the main Recovery screen will appear.
Once I updated to ng3 through the stock recovery I was able to take the ota updates for 4.4.4 and 5.0 normally.
Thanks, I'm going to try this now. Hope I don't lose any data!
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Thanks, I'm going to try this now. Hope I don't lose any data!
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you will when you flash through stock recovery.
Back up your data
It all went smoothly and I can update again! Thanks so much!
You are welcome.
I tried the instructions in that thread but I get an error when I try to install the first update.
The error mentions unexpected contents
What I did is copy the file to the SD card, booted into recovery and then selected install from external
What did I do wrong?
Hi there. Thank you so much for this. Question is that I am already on NG3 and I still dont have the update option! Would I need to go to OA1 one? Which I believe is 4.4.4? Then get the update for lollipop? A little confusion. And if that is the case, where can I get the file thing for OA1?
juliusgy said:
I tried the instructions in that thread but I get an error when I try to install the first update.
The error mentions unexpected contents
What I did is copy the file to the SD card, booted into recovery and then selected install from external
What did I do wrong?
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I have the same problem, except I used adb sidoload
juliusgy said:
I tried the instructions in that thread but I get an error when I try to install the first update.
The error mentions unexpected contents
What I did is copy the file to the SD card, booted into recovery and then selected install from external
What did I do wrong?
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Did you do the downgrade to NCE through Odin first?
Yes I did. I tried it again and I see that I'm on NG3 now, I guess I have to do the other one Now.
juliusgy said:
Yes I did. I tried it again and I see that I'm on NG3 now, I guess I have to do the other one Now.
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Once I was on NG3 I was able to upgrade using the OTA.
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Once I was on NG3 I was able to upgrade using the OTA.
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I am on NG3 and I am not getting any OTA for OA1 which is 4.4.4! I need that to go to 5.0? How can I manually update it? Dont care for root and other gimmicks. Completely stock!
ThuGzta said:
I am on NG3 and I am not getting any OTA for OA1 which is 4.4.4! I need that to go to 5.0? How can I manually update it? Dont care for root and other gimmicks. Completely stock!
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You could always try sideloading the NG3 to OA1 update then flashing through stock recovery from the other thread I mentioned.
I recently updated to OF3 to see what's what, not knowing the consequence of not being able to downgrade back to OE2. I know that Ping Pong is patched for this update, but I'm just wondering if there is any hope for root or if I'm screwed with this uldate. Thanks to anyone that can let me know!
Just Odin back to OF2 and update with the zip. Problem solved.
Clienterror said:
Just Odin back to OF2 and update with the zip. Problem solved.
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Downgrading back is not possible with the new OF3 update. You get errors and it's just not possible.
NizzleFish98 said:
Downgrading back is not possible with the new OF3 update. You get errors and it's just not possible.
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Huh? Worked for me.
LordNature said:
Huh? Worked for me.
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If you were able to revert to OE2 from an ota delivered OF3, could you explain how please?
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If you were able to revert to OE2 from an ota delivered OF3, could you explain how please?
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"Junior member" with a post count of 3. I wouldn't trust that. I tried various combinations of Odin and TAR files to revert. Errored out each time. I'm almost positive it's impossible to downgrade.
Christopher3712 said:
"Junior member" with a post count of 3. I wouldn't trust that. I tried various combinations of Odin and TAR files to revert. Errored out each time. I'm almost positive it's impossible to downgrade.
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I believe you are correct. Unless his method seemed reasonably issue-proof (line use a different Odin version or something) I wouldn't try it.
Downgrading Failed for me also. Anyone have an idea of how to Root ?
OE2 Firmware
2kris3 said:
Downgrading Failed for me also. Anyone have an idea of how to Root ?
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Since you guys are trying to downgrade to OE2, I'm assuming that means you have the .tar files?? I just bought a new S6 and have been trying to update to OE2 from OCE and I have already tripped my Knox counter. It repeatedly tells me my software is up to date, so there is no way for me to OTA at the moment. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
I know this is old, but i read that the problem is OTA update of 5.1.1 OF3 and i have 5.0 OF3, does it make any difference?
EDIT: sorry everyone, thought was on S5 section. Delete post please.
Well, I use this file and work for me.
G870A_OF3 to OJ3
1- Rename the file to update.zip and copy to the microSD
2-Turn off the phone
3-Hold Home button, volume up and power.
4-Select Update from external ...
5-Search the update.zip and apply.
6-wait to finish the proces, DON"T TURN OFF THE PHONE. The proces it can take 10 minutes.
Enjoy!
Others files
Verification?
Followed intructions
Flashed And all went well....But Even though graphic changed im still on Android 5.0, base band G870AUCU2B0F deodexed.
Dont really get what happened, But i feel Lucky. :fingers-crossed:
Grog.Al said:
Flashed And all went well....But Even though graphic changed im still on Android 5.0, base band G870AUCU2B0F deodexed.
Dont really get what happened, But i feel Lucky. :fingers-crossed:
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Based on the name of that file, you need to be at OF3 in order for it to update. It probably gave an error and didn't update your phone. You need to get an OTA update from B0F to OF3, then run this OF3 to OJ3 file.
Sorry, My bad: G870AUCU2BOF3
I had It upgraded from OC5 using this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/att...w-to-update-to-g870aof2-5-0-keeproot-t3161733
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Sorry, My bad: G870AUCU2BOF3
I had It upgraded from OC5 using this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/att...w-to-update-to-g870aof2-5-0-keeproot-t3161733
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You should probably use his method to update to 5.1.1 then. The OTA file most likely noticed system file changes (or missing files since using a deodexed rom) and aborted.
Worked for me many thanks.
I was stuck on 5.0 and OF3 no help from AT&T or Samsung. Phone wouldn't update at all. Followed directions and no problem at all. Now I can get OTA updates again.
Wait does this keep root?
Hopefully I'll get a answer, but okay I got this on OC5, I've also got the file already downloaded G870A_OJ3_Stock_ROM.zip, could I just rename it "update.zip" and just straight into 5.1.1, I see there's no real odin files and that file I have is 1.60Gb and I don't really wanna keep jumping up from OC5 to OF2 to OF3 and then finally to OJ3 with those small updates.
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Hopefully I'll get a answer, but okay I got this on OC5, I've also got the file already downloaded G870A_OJ3_Stock_ROM.zip, could I just rename it "update.zip" and just straight into 5.1.1, I see there's no real odin files and that file I have is 1.60Gb and I don't really wanna keep jumping up from OC5 to OF2 to OF3 and then finally to OJ3 with those small updates.
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Went the long way around and then all the way up to PB6......SMH LoL TEDIOUS!!!
AT&T released a software update for the Samsung Galaxy S 5 (SM-G900A) on March 9, 2016.
The file size is 209 MB
What's the changelog ?
Anyone who have access please upload the file soon. Thanks
Same here am in Canada so can't get ota updates
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Ill yank it when I get off work later if no one else gets it .
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Ill yank it when I get off work later if no one else gets it .
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Thank you. That would be very helpful.
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Ill yank it when I get off work later if no one else gets it .
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Oh gosh! Please do so...I'm a Canadian using a G900A and it is so frustrating how I cannot get the OTA's here. I hope CPA1 improves performance because OF5 is a sometimes frustrating.
Am curious am in Canada if I use vpn to mimic being in USA and I put in a AT&T sim card (not currently active account) can I fool it I to ota update? I tried this and it checked for update and said none available at this time. check again in 24 hours. Not sure if this is Cuz update is being staggered or if this is the default message when you are not on their network?
Also. If someone does provide the update after downloading it what is the process of installing it in stock recovery?
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I am using a G900a from at&t and I am not at the states but still I got the updates, I dont know If you are talking about different updates but after looking at this post, just out of sheer curiosity I went into setting and checked for updates and it send me, the worst thing is I didn't want to update.. and there was no way to stop the download, so I had to Perform a factory reset before it downloaded... ( might not have been necessary to factory reset though)..
You are first I have heard of this.
You on an AT&T plan?
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I am using a G900a from at&t and I am not at the states but still I got the updates, I dont know If you are talking about different updates but after looking at this post, just out of sheer curiosity I went into setting and checked for updates and it send me, the worst thing is I didn't want to update.. and there was no way to stop the download, so I had to Perform a factory reset before it downloaded... ( might not have been necessary to factory reset though)..
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one way to block the update is to fill up the SD partition. The update is not coming to my phone fortunately with a message to uninstall unused apps or delete photos and videos to free up 713.18 MB to enable the update process
That would be great
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Ill yank it when I get off work later if no one else gets it .
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That would be great! I hope that you'll get the update and post the download link.
PA1 thread with downloadable file:
Need the update from oi5 to pay. This thread does not have that zip
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canadoc01 said:
Need the update from oi5 to pay. This thread does not have that zip
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I think you might be able to use the ODIN images in that thread but you should ask. If you are on a full OTA OI5, then chances of finding PA1 OTA from someone else is pretty low since OI5 was never rooted, hence there isn't a way to get the PA1 OTA from a OI5 device.
If you are on OI5 with keep root as in the other thread then the first post has the steps; you will need to go through an intermediate step of downgrading from OI5 to NCE and root the device on NCE and then upgrade to PA1 with that image. Note that if you took the OI5 OTA previously, downgrading to NCE will brick your device (DON'T DO IT).
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PA1 thread with downloadable file: /snip
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You really shouldn't point people looking for the stock OTA file to that thread. It's really for rooted users who want to test drive the newer firmware. Some novice user who just wants the stock update file can really mess up their phone if they follow that thread.
LoSt180 said:
You really shouldn't point people looking for the stock OTA file to that thread. It's really for rooted users who want to test drive the newer firmware. Some novice user who just wants the stock update file can really mess up their phone if they follow that thread.
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Can't they just use the ODIN files from there, or the OTA.zip that got posted in one of the messages a few days ago?
YasharF said:
Can't they just use the ODIN files from there, or the OTA.zip that got posted in one of the messages a few days ago?
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Hi,
How upload the first post stock rom PA1 zip to my OI5 stock???
Thanks
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Can't they just use the ODIN files from there, or the OTA.zip that got posted in one of the messages a few days ago?
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The OTA file, maybe. The ODIN files, no, pretty sure one guy already screwed up his phone doing that. The first post says you must be rooted to flash those files, should be the first hint.
YasharF said:
Can't they just use the ODIN files from there, or the OTA.zip that got posted in one of the messages a few days ago?
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The ota zip posted there was of3-pa1 not oi5-pa1. I am fairly certain it won't install on oi5.
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RK said:
The ota zip posted there was of3-pa1 not oi5-pa1. I am fairly certain it won't install on oi5.
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If view this update log: http://www.att.com/es-us/esupport/article.html#!/wireless/KB424848
Suposed that update is enable and consecutive for OI5
If I am on unrooted OI5 where can I get OTA G900AUCU4CPA1 and G900AUCU4CPA2 updates? I cannot download them since I am not in US. Can anyone give me links for stock OTA firmwares? I would really appreciate any help or advice.