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[App] Marathon - [R] - 2010-10-20 - [U] - 2012-02-08 - [V] 3.1

Marathon
Marathon is an application designed primary to aid runners with their workout. It uses the phones built in GPS receiver to keep track of various statistics such as distance, speed, calories consumed and altitude change. Thanks to the voice announcement feature you'll know your progress without picking your phone out of the pocket. You can also compete against your previous recordings or setting a goal based on time and distance. Even though its primary designed for runners Marathon can be used with all kinds of outdoor activities.
Any suggestions/constructive feedback is welcome . The application is currently translated to: English, German, French, Spanish, Dutch, Italian and Swedish.
Key features:
• Records speed, distance, calories consumed, climb/decline, etc.
• Shows charts of speed and altitude change.
• Draws your route on a map.
• Share your results online, on your blog, Twitter or Facebook.
• Earn achievements for your training (Not related to Xbox LIVE achievements).
• Voice announcements with intervals based on either time or distance.
• Pause/resume recordings.
• Ability to cut off your results at the start or end.
• Inexpensive alternative to GPS watch.
• Ability to backup and restore all results.
• Export to kml, gpx and csv.
• Analyze parts of the result.
• Live Tracking - Let your friends follow your progress online in (almost) real time.
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Changelog:
http://www.marathon-mobile.net/Info/Changelog

Wow, it looks really good and seems to be very fingerfriendly.
I think it fits well into the Metro style.
Only thing to criticize: The touch input to raise and lower the weight for example (Video min: 1:33) could be done a bit nicer I think.
As example you could do it the same way it's done in the OS.
Here a video (min 7:21): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSoEhHV5BFU
Just one thing: In the beginning and the end you can see that the title of your app is Marahon and not Marathon. Just a little thing to fix
Regards
Sry for my english, hope you understand what I mean.

Looking good!
Although in some places the UI is a bit confusing, such as in the video at 0.26 where you have Goals Goals as the pivot and Open Open, why is this? as its not clear from the video. You also see this again later in the video with Edit Edit and Twitter twitter etc.
Also at 2.13 it's not clear that you can swipe to the right to see Calibration settings as its not hinted in the pivot
Other than that, I think it looks very cool
Dharms

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Looking good!
Although in some places the UI is a bit confusing, such as in the video at 0.26 where you have Goals Goals as the pivot and Open Open, why is this? as its not clear from the video. You also see this again later in the video with Edit Edit and Twitter twitter etc.
Also at 2.13 it's not clear that you can swipe to the right to see Calibration settings as its not hinted in the pivot
Other than that, I think it looks very cool
Dharms
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Yeah I agree with the Goals Goals and Open Open thing. Perhaps the second word can be grayed out shadow in the background isntead of looking like there is more.
Other than that it looks great, definately something I can use this fall when I start walking/jogging outside.

It looks great.
I'm currently using a similar application (RunSat) on WM, which has two features you might want to add. I personally love both of the listed features, so you could consider whether adding them is worth the effort.
Exporting results to excel / a spreadsheat is something I really like (showing three columns: time, speed, average speed. Could consider adding more). If you have multiple times on the same course, you could have column 1 trough 3 for your first, 5 trough 7 for your second, etc. so it's easy to compare your performance.
Another useful feature is auto-pausing the training when you're standing still (very useful if there's a bridge on the course). Not sure if you already support manual pausing, but that obviously can be useful too.
I'm already very familiar with the app I'm currently using, but I might consider switching to your WM6 app. For WP7 I'm pretty sure I'll get yours after seeing your demo!
Good luck with further development, I'm very happy to see another dev preparing for the WP7 launch

freeriders:
The numeric input panel you linked looks really sweet. I'll keep that in mind and see if I can make something similar .
DMAND/cyclical:
Sorry about the "Goals Goals" thing, I should have mentioned that it will not be there in the final release (it's there because I'm temporary using an open source Pivot control which doesn't support single pages, Microsoft will release their own Pivot control before the release. So I'm awaiting theirs before I invest too much time in making a "single page pivot lookalike".)
cPT.cAPSLOCK:
The WM6 app supports exporting to CVS (which you can open in Excel), I would add it to the WP7 app if I knew how to give the user his file . Since there's no traditional fileesystem you can't just save it. But since the WP7 app will be compatible with the webpage (www.marathon-mobile.net) you can always use the "Share" feature to upload the result to the webpage and then save it as kml/gpx/cvs from there.
Manual pausing is already supported, I want to implement auto-pause but I haven't done it yet since I'm not sure how to handle the noice in the GPS-signal in a proper way. But I guess I have to accept that the feature will work in ALMOST all cases.
Thanks for the feedback everyone!

Cool, I thought that might be the reason , hopefully the offical controls are released soon

What's the point?
I'm not sure there's any point in porting an app like this over to WiPhone7 when it can't run in the background. If you use your phone the app will be frozen, not to mention if you get a call or check a mail. Hopefully people remember to resume it after they're done. I can't even listen to Pandora or .977 or use a navigation app (not that there is one) at the same time, which is when I'd use it.
This app would be better ported to webOS which could actually handle it.

Hello,
I'm agree with freeriders concerning the numeric panel.
What do you use to realize charts ?
Thanks

gaijin1%
I'm a .NET developer and I find the WP7 platform interesting, so I'm porting this app to WP7 . Unfortunately I dont have enough spare time to port it to yet another platform, such as WebOS. Its possible to run under lock screen and as long as you stick to the built in music player you can listen to music while you're out running, and thats enough for me. I do agree that real multitasking would be neat, but this is not the tread to debate WP7 OS design .
Roccc
I'm using Silverlight Toolkit (http://silverlight.codeplex.com/) for charting. It seems to work good, but I haven't received my real device yet, so I can't be sure the performance is OK.
Thanks for the feedback!

Ooije said:
Roccc
I'm using Silverlight Toolkit (http://silverlight.codeplex.com/) for charting. It seems to work good, but I haven't received my real device yet, so I can't be sure the performance is OK.
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Thanks a lot for the toolkit
Me too, I haven't received my real device :S

I've released another video, its available here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vldm4WVguLk
Unfortunately I haven't had the time to improve the touch controls for numeric inputs (such as weight), but it's still something I want to do . I also plan to move some more buttons down to the application bar and add some more stuff to the map.

Looks great, but i guess you have to think about a good background. I also think there are to much options, so it should be nice if they will be arranged in groups

This is great.
I am planning to get rid of my desire in favour of a new WP7 phone later this month and I have been thinking about ways to track my running activity while waiting for an app to do just that. Glad to see someone is already working on it. I am very much looking forward to give it a try!

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I'm not sure there's any point in porting an app like this over to WiPhone7 when it can't run in the background. If you use your phone the app will be frozen, not to mention if you get a call or check a mail. Hopefully people remember to resume it after they're done. I can't even listen to Pandora or .977 or use a navigation app (not that there is one) at the same time, which is when I'd use it.
This app would be better ported to webOS which could actually handle it.
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It doesn't need to run in the background. Just Disable UserIdleDetection mode and some Tombstoning and phone calls will interrupt the app, but it will reload. I use Caliburn.Micro framework for WP7 apps, and it makes it really easy to do. Just be sure to Enable UserIdleDetectionMode when closed or tombstoned. This passes cert and is different from ApplicationIdleDetectionMode, which requires user opt-in.

As promised I've released a free version of the app, a link is available in the first post .

Nice app and get's it done in a very fluid manner. There are a lot of options to customize setup for individuals and such. One feature that would be nice to further add to the customization would be adding the ability to reorder the home screen (smaller items). Like current speed, average speed, decline, etc. For instance, I would like to be able to see (along with the most main items which you nailed..time and distance) calories and average pace when I just glance at my phone. As it is now, I have to swipe a little to see that row of information. My only suggestion is it's great as I said. And thanks a lot.

I've just released another update to the app (2.8). The biggest news is the ability to earn achievements (not xbox live) for your workout. Here's a list of the available achievements: http://www.marathon-mobile.net/Results/Achievements . Hopefully It'll help people get a little extra motivated to work out . Other news in 2.8 is FR/IT/NL/ES/SV voices as well as an auto-pause feature.
kwill: Thanks for the feedback, I've thought about letting the user re-organize the dashboard. But I haven't implemented anything like that yet.

Here's a little preview of the upcoming release: http://www.marathon-mobile.net/Info/Development
It'll enable Marathon to upload your results "live", so friends and family can watch the progress while you are out running . The feature will be available in both the free and premium version of Marathon and I'm targeting a release in early August (The feature is done, but I'm going on a vacation soon. So I'll keep it for a while ).

Version 3.0 is now available. It's been updated to Mango, so it supports fast app switching and 32bit colors.

YAY! Finally got the NoDo update...

Really Microsoft?? The much awaited, much anticipated "NoDo update" and all we basically got was copy & paste?? Aside from that I don't see much difference in the performance of my phone. My phone is stock with minimal apps installed on it and it is still a piece of **** and missing some features that would've made me keep this phone. I was holding off getting rid of it to see what this NoDo update had in store and it was pretty much a waste imo. NoDo sucks, Windows Phone 7 sucks, good thing I still have all my Android phones to fall back on. I don't even think the recent news of Android possibly being ported to the HD7 is gonna keep me from not getting rid of this phone. Craigslist, here I come. Let's see what kind of trade I can get for it cuz I don't even want money for it.
P.S. Microsoft, the C&P ain't even that great!

I'll Give you a +1 regarding the NODO update being not as much as we would like it to...
But with regards to the OS itself I personally love WP7 having Come from android and having flashed hundreds of ROMs on my Hero
I think MS has done a brilliant Job with WP7 ( Yeah we still dont have a lot of Apps)
But It comes with the ones one would normally use in daily life
like Facebook, ebay, live messenger etc and not to mention the brilliant email system which lacks in android (For me the email part is the best I have seen) and the ability to pin to start my favourite apps or even websites.
I am sure the MANGO update will solve our woes and am seriously looking for a NOKIA Branded WP7 as that definitely be a killer phone.
As of now I am pretty happy with the phone as it serves my daily purpose.
But I Guess Its a Personal Choice

julez456 said:
Really Microsoft?? The much awaited, much anticipated "NoDo update" and all we basically got was copy & paste?? Aside from that I don't see much difference in the performance of my phone. My phone is stock with minimal apps installed on it and it is still a piece of **** and missing some features that would've made me keep this phone. I was holding off getting rid of it to see what this NoDo update had in store and it was pretty much a waste imo. NoDo sucks, Windows Phone 7 sucks, good thing I still have all my Android phones to fall back on. I don't even think the recent news of Android possibly being ported to the HD7 is gonna keep me from not getting rid of this phone. Craigslist, here I come. Let's see what kind of trade I can get for it cuz I don't even want money for it.
P.S. Microsoft, the C&P ain't even that great!
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Found an error in your picture so I thought I'd fix it for ya real quick.
Your welcome

March 2011
OS version: 7.0.7390.0*
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Copy & paste. You asked for it—now it's here. Just tap a word and drag the arrows to copy and paste it on your phone. You can copy text from emails, text messages, web pages, and Office Mobile documents, and paste it anywhere you can type. To learn more, see Copy & paste.
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Faster apps and games. Nobody likes to wait. That's why we've whittled down the time it takes for apps and games to start up and resume. It's all part of our focus on getting you to the things you love, easier and faster.
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Better Marketplace search. We've streamlined Marketplace search to make it easier to find specific apps, games, or music. Press the Search button in the Apps or Games section of Marketplace and you'll see only apps or games in the results. Press Search in the Music section of Marketplace to search just the music catalog.
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Other Marketplace improvements. We've improved the stability of Marketplace while you download apps. We've also improved the experience of downloading apps larger than 20 megabytes, upgrading from trial apps to paid apps, sharing links to apps via email, sorting Xbox LIVE games by release date, and creating an Xbox LIVE account from within the Games Hub.
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Wi-Fi improvements. We now display your phone's Media Access Control (MAC) address in Settings. (You might need this info if you try to connect to a Wi-Fi network that uses MAC address filtering. To learn more, see Connect to a Wi-Fi network.) We've also removed the limit on the number of Wi-Fi profiles that you can store and reduced the time it takes to start your phone if you've stored lots of Wi-Fi profiles.
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Outlook improvements. We've improved the experience of viewing iPhone photo attachments you receive from a non-Exchange-based email account (such as a Google Mail, Hotmail, or Yahoo! Mail account), using the Global Address List (GAL) when connecting to Exchange Server 2003 using Exchange ActiveSync, and working with email display names that contain brackets (for example, "David Alexander [Contoso]").
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Other performance improvements. This month's update also includes software from several phone manufacturers that improves the performance of specific models. Naturally, if you don't have one of the affected models, we won't install this portion of the update on your phone.
This list has been available long before the update. Have fun with Android.

julez456 said:
Really Microsoft?? The much awaited, much anticipated "NoDo update" and all we basically got was copy & paste?? Aside from that I don't see much difference in the performance of my phone. My phone is stock with minimal apps installed on it and it is still a piece of **** and missing some features that would've made me keep this phone. I was holding off getting rid of it to see what this NoDo update had in store and it was pretty much a waste imo. NoDo sucks, Windows Phone 7 sucks, good thing I still have all my Android phones to fall back on. I don't even think the recent news of Android possibly being ported to the HD7 is gonna keep me from not getting rid of this phone. Craigslist, here I come. Let's see what kind of trade I can get for it cuz I don't even want money for it.
P.S. Microsoft, the C&P ain't even that great!
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Why don’t you look for a job at engadget if you want to rant about how terrible this OS is. Your profile shows you as a member since 2008 with 169 posts mostly about android. You describe yourself as "android enthusiast, other OS curious" and looking through your posts all I can find recently is stuff pertaining to Android; which is why I will call you a fandroid troll.
So kick rocks fandroid troll. Go play with your phone in the Android forum

TechJunkiesCA said:
Why don’t you look for a job at engadget if you want to rant about how terrible this OS is. Your profile shows you as a member since 2008 with 169 posts mostly about android. You describe yourself as "android enthusiast, other OS curious" and looking through your posts all I can find recently is stuff pertaining to Android; which is why I will call you a fandroid troll.
So kick rocks fandroid troll. Go play with your phone in the Android forum
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Exactly..Android enthusiast, other OS curious. I've had Windows phones in the past but didn't like them much. (T-Mobile Dash, the silver T-Mobile phone with the slide out keyboard-can't remember the name, the Touch Pro 2) The phones themselves were fine, especially my Touch Pro 2 that I regret selling to this day but Windows Mobile was never my cup of tea so I switched to Android when the G1 came out. I was curious about WP7 when it first came out which is why I bought the HD7 but Microsoft has not been able keep my curiosity with this new OS. It is boring to me. Once again the phone itself is dope but the OS isn't kicking it with me..it gets boring rather quickly. The reason most of my post recently are Android is because I have 5 Android phones and only one WP7 phone that I ain't liking much right now. I wouldn't consider myself a fandroid troll like you labeled me because I try other OS's and try to like them and don't live by Android completely. You think I like dishing out $400-500 for a phone just so I can come into these forums and talk **** about the OS on it?? I also own an iPhone 4, a Macbook Pro and all 4 generations of the iPod Touch which is something I'm sure you wouldn't hear an iOS enthusiast say. WP7 sucks IMO..that's my opinion and its not coming from an Android troll.

how can i download the NoDo update for my hd7

magicalan said:
how can i download the NoDo update for my hd7
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Use the wifi toggle method. I kept waiting and I forced it to update to nodo.
Toggle on airplane mode. Then turn on wifi. Plug into zune and let it update. Find the average time it takes to say no updates available. Then do it again and turn off wifi on your phone 1 or 2 seconds before it finishes searching for an update.
Took me about 15 tries or so but it finally worked!

magicalan said:
how can i download the NoDo update for my hd7
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Blue1k said:
Use the wifi toggle method. I kept waiting and I forced it to update to nodo.
Toggle on airplane mode. Then turn on wifi. Plug into zune and let it update. Find the average time it takes to say no updates available. Then do it again and turn off wifi on your phone 1 or 2 seconds before it finishes searching for an update.
Took me about 15 tries or so but it finally worked!
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With almost 2000 posts and that big cheezy smiley I'm pretty sure magicalan already knows how to download NoDo if he hasn't done it already. I'm pretty sure he was being sarcastic when he asked that question.

Lol. Didn't even notice that.

tfn said:
I'll Give you a +1 regarding the NODO update being not as much as we would like it to...
But with regards to the OS itself I personally love WP7 having Come from android and having flashed hundreds of ROMs on my Hero
I think MS has done a brilliant Job with WP7 ( Yeah we still dont have a lot of Apps)
But It comes with the ones one would normally use in daily life
like Facebook, ebay, live messenger etc and not to mention the brilliant email system which lacks in android (For me the email part is the best I have seen) and the ability to pin to start my favourite apps or even websites.
I am sure the MANGO update will solve our woes and am seriously looking for a NOKIA Branded WP7 as that definitely be a killer phone.
As of now I am pretty happy with the phone as it serves my daily purpose.
But I Guess Its a Personal Choice
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I am sorry but I have to disagree with you and agree with the original poster, i have had this paper weight around since November to see what this update will do and its crap, nothing important changed.
You say great email? The HD2 email system was fifty times better for two main reason: Select All, and ability to view many email addresses on one place.
You praise that you can pin it to your home screen? hell any phone u can do that, and it will even tell u how many emails you got on the home screen.
But for a real email user who has several accounts to track with over 100 emails per day per account, WM7 version is crap, I have to go back to the home screen every time to access the diff account ( should be able to select which account I want to view when in email reader, basic feature, HD2 had it, why not HD7? this is a newer OS with lack of common features? makes no sense.
Then I have to tap and open the selector and then manually select any where from 30 to 100 emails to delete? manually? i mean comon windows 3.1 had select all, 15 years ago. Same for SMS, u cant select all to get rid of lots of emails.
Our color options of the live tiles are still designed for a 5th grader school girl.
The Hard ware is great, no doubt, typing is much better and the way you interact with the phone, but the OS is just bleak.
One of my biggest ? for Microsoft... In what century did man develop the rational that placing data in a table vs one verticle row makes more sense? I wanna say some time in BC?
when you open up my programs on you desk top, yes u can select to have them all lined up in a row and be long as hell, but u can also place them in tables so you fit more data on one screen since were dealing with a smaller screen. why do we not have that option here? every phone even before touch screens displays programs and data that way. ....???
Im sorry guys, ive said this before and will say it again. this phone has one great feature, you can spy on your friends via face book faster cuase your home tab will tell you when they are taking a dump.
other then that, is a great piece of hard ware, running a strip down windows3.1
and the more you look into the Nokia and Windows working on a phone together announcement will show you that MS realized that this phone flopped, and that they need to do something drastic now to get back in the game.

[POLL] Key Lime Pie 5.0

Just out of curiosity, what does everyone want in the next version of Android? I honestly don't know what Google will come up with but judging by the current roll Google has been from Gingerbread to ICS and ICS to JB I am sure it will be pretty awesome.

Honestly? There only one thing. Better battery life and maybe an updated ui. New number means new color at least. Maybe red or built in themes even.
But if they add double the battery life I will be happy.
I also predict built in video chat similar to face time. I know apps have it and Google + has it. But I bet Google will let you choose to call or video chat from the native dialer.
Other than that. I don't know what else it needs. I love 4.2
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It's hard to innovate especially when what you can add to a phone has already been invented or added.

I think they need to fix the counterintuivity of the quick settings (double swipe down is useless), fix the awkward lock screen widgets, add in deeper customization (themes, custom quick settings, etc), add in better battery life, make the camera easy to use for everyone, add in all of the emojis instead of like half, multithread FOR the apps, and not make them do it themselves as android phones are becoming multi core and yet not many apps take advantage of it, fix the wifi to data handoff, and redo the God-awful wallpaper cropper.
And would it kill them to make sure each NEW uploaded app is up to the design standards? I'm sick and tired of using apps designed for android 2.1 when I'm running a completely different UI on 4.2.1

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I think they need to fix the counterintuivity of the quick settings (double swipe down is useless), fix the awkward lock screen widgets, add in deeper customization (themes, custom quick settings, etc), add in better battery life, make the camera easy to use for everyone, add in all of the emojis instead of like half, multithread FOR the apps, and not make them do it themselves as android phones are becoming multi core and yet not many apps take advantage of it, fix the wifi to data handoff, and redo the God-awful wallpaper cropper.
And would it kill them to make sure each NEW uploaded app is up to the design standards? I'm sick and tired of using apps designed for android 2.1 when I'm running a completely different UI on 4.2.1
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Everything you said + multiscreen like the note 2.

I don't want any new features, I want them to work on perfecting what they've already built.

1. Backup and restore management. No more using titanium backup and having to be root to restore app data. Plus knowing how many devices you have so also having the ability to sync your data across devices or not.
2. Merge messaging services. Get rid of Google+ Messenger and get GTalk on the play store. Unification of the messenger app.
3. Integrate Google+ with games, like games centre in iOS. It is optional for the end user to use.
4. More customisation for the toggle on the swipe menu from the navigation menu.
5. There was a person who speed up ICS by 200% by just optimising the Android build. I think he has checked it back into the open source project so basically add that or taking ideas from that which should increase performance and battery life in the OS.
6. Start the availability of Chrome apps to run natively on android. This will reduce fragmentation if Chrome gets on the same release cycle as it's desktop counterparts, you can start build apps with HTML5 and native client therefore application not only can run across devices but also stay upto date. Basically when you launch a Chrome app, it feels you running a normal application, but chrome is running it in the background.
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This forum is for news, tip/tricks, guided/reference threads for the Nexus 4. Wild speculation about future Android iterations which are likely 3rd or 4th quarter 2013 is clutter that doesn't belong here.
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[Q] Looking to switch

hi people,
I'm looking to switch to WinPhone.
I've got a few quite good features on Android that I'd like to make sure I can have/reproduce on WinPhone too. May you help me with those ?
- Have ringer/notifications volume to get adjusted to ambient noise and/or calendar events automatically
- have a car mode
- have an event/place actions system (like Tasker or OnX)
Many many thanks
Fabio

- for ambient no...
- all this (car mode, task manager with close X) is available with upcoming GDR3 update or today for developer or via WP AppStudio...
notice: car connection with BT for hands free calls and audio reproduction is available long time ago in WP but with upcoming GDR3 come additional settings

I'd say it depends on what type of android user you are. If you just user the phone, sms, browsing and occasional app then you're fine. If you're a power user then you'll just get annoyed and frustrated at simple things that you use yo be able to do but now can't.
As I've said in the windows 1520 thread, its undoubtedly a gorgeous piece of hardware and is the prime drive for me to keep looking into windows phone. Dare I say it and definitely not trying to be a troll, but if it did run android, I'm sure myself and others would buy it in a flash.
Sticking with realities though, I don't think WP8 is quite there yet for the advanced android user. I'm still very concerned that without DPI settings/apps with phablet UI, that the 1520 is just going to be running blown up phone apps, like first gen android tablets, which is not ideal.
File browser is key and offers so much flexibility. Copying and sharing photos off your DSLR, sending whatever file you want through gmail, deleting downloaded files etc. Skydrive is not a suitable replacement, especially if you're not always on wifi/limited 4G data plans.
Apps is becoming less of an issue with most of the core apps there in some shape and using 3rd party official apps is not something I worry about. It is still an issue however for niche apps. Eg Niche medical apps, a reliable CHM file reader (reference text books), advanced pdf reader/editor with the ability to underline/comment/draw in.... I can go on. Even office 365 functionality that is supposedly a huge selling point is largely replaceable with Kingsoft office which is superb sans the synching (you just need the extra step of google drive).
Then there are the core google services which have really exploded in functionality to become more than just gimmicks in the past 12 months. – Chrome browser with its desktop session synching, google now with its local contextual searches, automatic G+ photo uploader (full size backups with auto enhancement unlike dropbox).
Lets not mention 3rd party accessory compatibility with Windows Phone...ie. there APIs are so closed that no BT keyboards work with it for example.
There's a lot which is being fixed and is "promised" to be fixed in upcoming updates from MS – unfortunately thats always been the story with WP as they play catchup, which I understand being a new OS. However, 12 months on, even basic things like notification centre, screen rotation lock, separate notification ringtones, separate notification/system volumes are still yet to be fixed/only being patched now.
In terms of positives of the windows phone os, to be honest there isn't anything that appeals to me that I'm not already experiencing in android. Metro UI I don't mind but can be hit and miss with no notification centre and when you're relying on 3rd party live tiles which don't always update frequently enough for your liking (and wit no option to change). Simplicity is always touted as a windows phone advantage, but to be honest I find android simple enough if you know what you're doing and the appeal is more for perhaps people new to smartphones. As an android user, the simplicity actually feels limiting as I can't get things to work exactly how I want it to. In short it's a matter of how much I can compromise when coming from Android to wp on the software side unfortunately.
Having said all this I'd still keep looking at WP due to Nokia's hardware and their general nailing of the camera (which android hasn't accomplished fully yet), but there needs to be a lot of improvement on the software side from MS and 3rd party developers before I can fully see myself changing platforms. As good as the hardware and camera may be, my smartphone is my mobile computer replacement and the OS needs to be able to function like that.
Perhaps when RT merges with 8.1 and a few more MS and Nokia updates roll out it'll get more capable and phablet friendly. But until that time I'm keep jealously watching and admiring in awe at the camera and hardware but deep down knowing I just can't do what I want to do on it right now.
YMMV.
Good luck!

Something like Tasker or automatic volume adjustment will require homebrew, or at least an OEM app; third-party apps aren't allowed to run continuously in the background (it's bad for performance and battery life) on WP.

thank to you all so far
is it possible to have voice driving directions in car (thinking of Here Drive) AND listen to music from another app at the same time ? Or view a Youtube video ? Is WP8 really multitask these days ?

chareos12 said:
thank to you all so far
is it possible to have voice driving directions in car (thinking of Here Drive) AND listen to music from another app at the same time ? Or view a Youtube video ? Is WP8 really multitask these days ?
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yes you can listen music and working here drive+ navigation in same time... music temporally get lower and pause when navigation give voice direction

dxdy said:
yes you can listen music and working here drive+ navigation in same time... music temporally get lower and pause when navigation give voice direction
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Youtube too ?
Man, I'm getting really impatient to make the switch

chareos12 said:
Youtube too ?
Man, I'm getting really impatient to make the switch
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youtube no, because when you switch to start screen or other app automatically stop playing (but only tried in official YT app and SuperTube)

Here Drive will run fully in the background (battery warning: don't forget to stop it if you take a break somewhere short of your destination!) and will override other audio playback to give directions. Start Here Drive, enter directions and start navigation, then hit Start (or press-and-hold Back) and go to your media player app. You should continue getting turn-by-turn prompts. It doesn't actually pause the audio, which is annoying - you'll miss bits of songs or audiobooks, for example - but it works.

[L5/L7][DISCUSION THREAD] Lollipop & KITKAT

General discusion about Lollipop&Marshmallow for L5 & L7
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Android 5.0 "Lollipop" is the latest version of the Android mobile operating system developed by Google. Unveiled on June 25, 2014 during Google I/O, it became available as official over-the-air (OTA) updates on November 12, 2014 for select devices that run distributions of Android serviced by Google, including Nexus and Google Play edition devices. Its source code was made available on November 3, 2014.
One of the most prominent changes in the Lollipop release is a redesigned user interface built around a responsive design language referred to as "material design". Other changes include improvements to the notifications, which can be accessed from the lockscreen and displayed within applications as top-of-the-screen banners. Google also made internal changes to the platform, with the Android Runtime (ART) officially replacing Dalvik for improved application performance, and with changes intended to improve and optimize battery usage, known internally as Project Volta.
QUESTIONS:
-What are you guys thinking about this new update for our phones?
-What are you thinking about new MATERIAL DESIGN?
-What about ART? (pros--cons)
-Guest user mode? Good?
-What about app compatibility?
-more soon
For now we know that
@ALEX.IMER work on CM12 for L7 (make all,but stuck on graphic module).
@Asce1062 work on CyanHacker L for L7 & L5
@aidasaidas75 Finished CM12 for L5 HERE
We have kernels which support both devices, that is good thing
For L7 there is IMER kernel which is in all his roms
For L5 there is SKernel by @skyinfo HERE
Also there is GAPPs thread by @Plamb1r and @Paget96 (me) HERE
Material design: fluid, purposeful motion
More tangible interaction
Content responds to your touch in an intuitive way.
More time playing, less time charging
Power for the long haul with a battery saver feature that extends your device by up to 90 minutes. And now it's easier to manage your power usage - see the estimated time left before you need to charge, and when you're charging, approximately how much time until it's topped up and ready to go.
More ways to secure your device
Share your device securely with guest user mode. Or create multiple user accounts to enable friends to log in on your device. In either case, no one will be able to access any of your stuff. And you can use Android Smart Lock to secure your phone or tablet by pairing it with a trusted device like your wearable or even your car.
Your device, your rules
For fewer worries and disruptions, adjust your settings so only certain people and notifications get through. When it's important, respond directly from your lockscreen.
Lollipop features​
Material Design
A bold, colorful, and responsive UI design for consistent, intuitive experiences across all your devices
Responsive, natural motion, realistic lighting and shadows, and familiar visual elements make it easier to navigate your device
Vivid new colors, typography, and edge-to-edge imagery help to focus your attention​
Notifications
New ways to control when and how you receive messages - only get interrupted when you want to be
View and respond to messages directly from your lock screen. Includes the ability to hide sensitive content for these notifications
For fewer disruptions, turn on Priority mode via your device’s volume button so only certain people and notifications get through. Or schedule recurring downtime like 10pm to 8am when only Priority notifications can get through
With Lollipop, incoming phone calls won’t interrupt what you’re watching or playing. You can choose to answer the call or just keep doing what you’re doing
Control the notifications triggered by your apps; hide sensitive content and prioritize or turn off the app’s notifications entirely
More intelligent ranking of notifications based on who they’re from and the type of communication. See all your notifications in one place by tapping the top of the screen​
Battery
Power for the long haul
A battery saver feature which extends device use by up to 90 mins
Estimated time left to fully charge is displayed when your device is plugged in
Estimated time left on your device before you need to charge again can now be found in battery settings​
Security
Keep your stuff safe and sound
New devices come with encryption automatically turned on to help protect data on lost or stolen devices
SELinux enforcing for all applications means even better protection against vulnerabilities and malware
Use Android Smart Lock to secure your phone or tablet by pairing it with a trusted device like your wearable or even your car​
Device Sharing
More flexible sharing with family and friends
Multiple users for phones. If you forget your phone, you still can call any of your friends (or access any of your messages, photos etc.) by simply logging into another Android phone running Lollipop. Also perfect for families who want to share a phone, but not their stuff
Guest user for phones and tablets means you can lend your device and not your info
Screen pinning: pin your screen so another user can access just that content without messing with your other stuff​
New Quick Settings
Get to the most frequently used settings with just two swipes down from the top of the screen
New handy controls like flashlight, hotspot, screen rotation and cast screen controls
Easier on/off toggles for Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, and location
Manually adjust your brightness for certain conditions. Then, adaptive brightness will kick in based on ambient lighting​
Connectivity
A better internet connection everywhere and more powerful Bluetooth low energy capabilities
Improved network handoffs resulting in limited interruption in connectivity. For example, continue your video chat or VoIP calls without interruption as you leave the house and switch from your home Wi-Fi back to cellular
Improved network selection logic so that your device connects only if there is a verified internet connection on Wi-Fi
Power-efficient scanning for nearby Bluetooth low energy (“BLE”) devices like wearables or beacons
New BLE peripheral mode​
Runtime and Performance
A faster, smoother and more powerful computing experience
ART, an entirely new Android runtime, improves application performance and responsiveness
Up to 4x performance improvements
Smoother UI for complex, visually rich applications
Compacting backgrounded apps and services so you can do more at once
Support for 64 bit devices, like the Nexus 9, brings desktop class CPUs to Android
Support for 64-bit SoCs using ARM, x86, and MIPS-based cores
Shipping 64-bit native apps like Chrome, Gmail, Calendar, Google Play Music, and more
Pure Java language apps run​
source: Android lollipop 5.0
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-Next Lollipop updates-​
Update 5.0.1
As of now, there is no word on what precise changes the Android 5.0.1 update brings; though we can expect the release to bring fixes to various bugs and issues reported by Android 5.0 Lollipop users in the recent few weeks. With the release of Android 5.0.1 factory images for Nexus devices, we can expect that Google will soon announce the incremental update.
Update 5.0.2
Android 5.0 is has been publicly available since early November, and the number of devices getting Google’s latest OS is growing bigger every day. In the first few weeks after its release, Google focused on stability and released quite a few update builds. Now, it’s the time for a small numerical bump, because Android 5.0.2 has just been pushed into Google’s AOSP repos.
Android 5.0.1 was rather minor update, with only a few notable changes. Android 5.0.2 is definitely bigger, but it’s still not huge. Google managed to address some issues with MountService which should now start before performBootDexOpt. This fixes a previously reported bug in the issue tracker. Some other changes related to NAND have also been pushed. Fstrim, introduced in Android 4.3, caused some serious issues on Lollipop. According to this log provided by XDA Recognized Developer cybojenix, devices turned off for the night had problems with fstrim being launched at all. Google addressed the issue and devices with slow NAND should now have a noticeable performance boost.
Nexus 7 (Wi-Fi) and Nexus 7 (Mobile Data) device trees have been updated. As a result, new factory images for the Nexus 7 (2012) and updated binary files are have been pushed. As usual you can get them from the Android Developer Page. An updated device tree for tilapia is a good sign, as it’s one of two devices that haven’t received an official update already. There is a light at the end of the tunnel, signaling that Google will finally bring official Lollipop to the missing devices sooner rather than later.
If you want to build Android 5.0.2 yourself, you can update your current sources by executing the following command:
repo init -b android-5.0.2_r1 && repo sync
Update 5.0.3
A memory leak occurs when Android allocates a chunk of system memory for a task and then doesn’t release it again. This means that over time more and more memory will be allocated and none ever given back. Even with 2 or 3GB of RAM, eventually the system will run out of memory, and that is never pretty.
The thread on the issue tracker is hard to follow as there are lots of complaints and there is lots of general unhappiness, but little in the way of official comments from Google or Android developers. However it does now seem that Google has agreed that this is a bug, and that it has been fixed in the source code. What that means is that the latest source code used to build Android doesn’t leak memory. However that doesn’t actually help affected users at the moment. The next step is for Google to make a new release of Android, probably Android 5.0.3 Lollipop, with this and other bug fixes. However there is no news on when that will be. Let’s hope it will be soon.
Update 5.1
Google released Android 5.0 just over a month ago, and since then Lollipop has been trying to establish its position in the global smartphone market. Despite its many new features and overall greatness, Android 5.0 has many issues that still need to be addressed. According to our colleagues at AndroidPIT and their two internal sources, Google is working on Android 5.1, which should really come as no surprise because software progress is inevitable. We already know that Google is always looking ahead, but the interesting part is that if rumors are to be believed, we’ll see 5.1 as soon as the end of February.
This information, although plausible, could strike one as a bit odd. After all, usually Google releases one or two versions of its OS per year. But with the potential release of 5.1 right around the corner, it’s unclear as to why Google would want to roll out a new update so soon.
If AndroidPIT’s sources are to be believed, the update will allegedly bring following improvements:
-Silent mode added after missing on Android 5.0
-General improvements in system stability
-Improved RAM management
-Fixes for sudden app closures
-Improved battery management
-Excessive consumption of network devices when used Wi-Fi fixed
-Issues with wireless connections fixed
-Problems with Okay Google function solved
-Notifications problems solved
-Some sound problems experience by certain devices fixed
-Other improvements and changes
The to-do list is rather long, and Google will definitely address some of these problems. AndroidPIT claims that they got this news from sources close to Google and Android 5.1 will soon become a reality. We can only wait to see whether these revelations are real or not.
Android 6.0: let’s invent the ultimate Android OS
http://www.androidpit.com/android-6-release-date-news-rumors
Android M (6.0) --- that is for future xd
Source:
AndroidPIT
Official android site:
Android Lollipop 5.0 (official site)
Thats all information which we have for now, I will updating this thread frequently

General discusion about KITKAT for L5 & L7
The Android 4.4 KitKat operating system uses advanced memory optimization technologies. As a result, it is available on Android devices with as little as 512 MB of RAM. This is important because previous versions of the operating system required more internal memory which made them incompatible with many older device models. This was a major cause of the problem known as Android fragmentation.
Android 4.4 KitKat features a cleaner user interface, Near Field Communication (NFC) support and always-on touch screen action buttons, which replace the need for the physical buttons found on many Android devices. KitKat also boasts an improved security-enhanced Linux module, which helps prevent unauthorized app access.
Google announced Android 4.4 KitKat in September 2013 and debuted it on the Nexus 5 smartphone the following month. For months prior to the release, observers expected the OS to be called Key Lime Pie, but Google renamed it as part of a marketing promotion with the Hershey Company, which sells a candy bar called Kit Kat in the United States.
Smart, simple, and truly yours
Beautiful & Immersive
A more polished design, improved performance, and new features.​
Just say “Ok Google”
You don’t need to touch the screen to get things done. When on your home screen* or in Google Now, just say “Ok Google” to launch voice search, send a text, get directions or even play a song.
A work of art​While listening to music on your device, or while projecting movies to Chromecast, you’ll see beautiful full-screen album and movie art when your device is locked. You can play, pause, or seek to a specific moment.
Immerse yourself
The book you're reading, the game you're playing, or the movie you're watching — now all of these take center stage with the new immersive mode, which automatically hides everything except what you really want to see. Just swipe the edge of the screen to bring back your status bar and navigation buttons.
Faster multitasking​Android 4.4 takes system performance to an all-time high by optimizing memory and improving your touchscreen so that it responds faster and more accurately than ever before. This means that you can listen to music while browsing the web, or race down the highway with the latest hit game, all without a hitch.
Smart & Simple
Google smarts improve every corner of the Android experience.
The future is calling
The new phone app automatically prioritizes your contacts based on the people you talk to the most. You can also search for nearby places and businesses, your contacts, or people in your Google Apps domain.
A smarter caller ID​Whenever you get a call from a phone number not in your contacts, your phone will look for matches from businesses with a local listing on Google Maps. Learn more about caller ID by Google.
All your messages in the same place
Never miss a message, no matter how your friend sends it. With the new Hangouts app, all of your SMS and MMS messages are together in the same app, alongside your other conversations and video calls. And with the new Hangouts, you can even share your location and send animated GIFs.
Emoji everywhere​Sometimes words can’t express how you feel. For that, there’s Emoji, the colorful Japanese characters, now available on Google Keyboard.
Grab & Go
New features help you get things done while you’re on the move.
Print wherever, whenever
Now you can print photos, documents, and web pages from your phone or tablet. You can print to any printer connected to Google Cloud Print, to HP ePrint printers, and to other printers that have apps in the Google Play Store.
Pick a file, any file​From apps like Quickoffice, you can open and save files on Google Drive, other cloud storage services, or your device. And with quick access to recently used files, it's easier than ever to send the file you were just working on.
Your office, anywhere
Create and edit documents, spreadsheets and presentations from your phone or tablet with the newly redesigned Quickoffice
Even more features
For those of you looking to go deeper, here's an exhaustive list of all the updates found in Android 4.4, KitKat.
Bluetooth MAP support
Android now supports the Message Access Profile (MAP) so Bluetooth-enabled cars can exchange messages with your devices.
Chromecast support
With your Android device and a Chromecast, you can enjoy your favorite online entertainment, from Netflix, YouTube, Hulu Plus, and Google Play on your HDTV.
Chrome web view
Applications that embed web content now use Chrome to render web components accurately and quickly.
Closed captioning
Android now supports closed captioning and subtitles. To turn on closed captioning, go to Settings > Accessibility and turn on Captions.
Device management built-in
If you ever lose your device, you can find or wipe it with the Android
Device Manager
Downloads app redesign
The Downloads app has been redesigned, giving you new sorting options and list and grid views for all the files you’ve downloaded.
Easy home screen switching
If you love to customize your device and have installed one or more home screen replacements, you can switch between them easily in Settings > Home.
Email app refresh
The redesigned Email app has a fresh new look with nested folders, contact photos and better navigation.
Full-screen wallpapers with preview
Your wallpaper now extends through the notification tray and system buttons. And when you change your wallpaper, you can preview just how it will look before you set it.*
HDR+ photography
HDR+ mode on Nexus 5 automatically snaps a rapid burst of photos and combines them to give you the best possible single shot. Daytime pictures are vivid with clean shadows, and nighttime photos are sharp with less noise.*
Infrared blasting
On devices with an infrared (IR) blaster, Android now supports applications for remote control of TVs and other nearby devices.
Location in Quick Settings
Access your location settings from anywhere with a new tile in Quick Settings.
Location modes and monitoring
If you want to conserve battery, go to Settings > Location to switch between high accuracy and battery-saving location modes. There’s no need to toggle GPS, Wi-Fi, and mobile network settings. And to see which apps have recently requested your location, go to Settings > Location.
Low-power audio playback
Android 4.4 on Nexus 5 lets you listen to music for longer - up to 60 hours of audio playback.*
Music and movie-seeking from lock screen
Jump to a specific part of a song or video from your lock screen. Just long press on the play or pause button and then select the point you want.
Secure app sandboxes
Application sandboxes have been hardened with Security-Enhanced Linux.
Step counting built-in
When you use fitness apps like Moves on Nexus 5, the phone acts as a pedometer to count steps. Android 4.4 and updated hardware make this a more battery-friendly way to measure your activity.
Tap to pay, built a new way
Android 4.4 introduces a new, open architecture for NFC payments that works with any mobile carrier, and lets apps manage your payment information in the cloud or on your device. Now you can tap to pay with Google Wallet or other apps at more than a million stores.
Touchscreen improvements
Improved software and Nexus 5’s new hardware mean Android responds to your touch faster and more accurately than ever before.*
Version history(Codenames, Tags, and Build Numbers)

For me, i'm a fan of playing game so i hope the graphic in new version will better than present kitkat rom
I think Material design is beautiful, it look simple and colorful
ART, i hope it will stable and support more app and no bugs
My phone is mine so guest user mode is not important for me
That is my thinkings about new version Lollipop is going for our poor device
Sorry for my bad english

SMILEVN said:
For me, i'm a fan of playing game so i hope the graphic in new version will better than present kitkat rom
I think Material design is beautiful, it look simple and colorful
ART, i hope it will stable and support more app and no bugs
My phone is mine so guest user mode is not important for me
That is my thinkings about new version Lollipop is going for our poor device
Sorry for my bad english
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I thinks so. But all of you need to know IMER's CM12. Don't have ART. He said that "only dalvik" idk now :/

I think IMER only make rom for l7
What about l5??? The last i have used cyanhacker is very laggy
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What about the record with the microphone?

SMILEVN said:
I think IMER only make rom for l7
What about l5??? The last i have used cyanhacker is very laggy
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I use cyan hacker for l7 . Work good. Try the latest SKernel . There is final version for L5.
EDIT: Yes, IMER work only for L7.. And that is not problem to port to L5. / don't worry.

Frankrmd said:
What about the record with the microphone?
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I don't know :/ but we always can hope.

Paget96 said:
I use cyan hacker for l7 . Work good. Try the latest SKernel . There is final version for L5.
EDIT: Yes, IMER work only for L7.. And that is not problem to port to L5. / don't worry.
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I agree that cyanhacker is smooth but the graphic is very bad
Now i am using avatar rom from Mr.Plamb1r to play game
I think CrystalPA rom is a good Kitkat rom but Mr.Cr3pt didn't support it

SMILEVN said:
I agree that cyanhacker is smooth but the graphic is very bad
Now i am using avatar rom from Mr.Plamb1r to play game
I think CrystalPA rom is a good Kitkat rom but Mr.Cr3pt didn't support it
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My first rom on this device is CrystalPa 5.0.. Then I used. CM11, LS. And now CyanHacker.
Now I waiting for. CM12 by mr @ALEX.IMER

but i am using l5 so i wait the new version cyanhacker from Mr.Asce
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but i am using l5 so i wait the new version cyanhacker from Mr.Asce
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I read somewhere, don't know where, he already make for L7 p705 and will test it today or tomorrow. . I know only that.

Good news for L5 users!! @aidasaidas75 is building CM12 for L5!!

Lollipop is coming.
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Good news for L5 users!! @aidasaidas75 is building CM12 for L5!!
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That is very very good news . Good luck with that rom guys. . We must wait,some time (L7) users
Information updated, check first post

Anyone can tell me, what is LS?
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Anyone can tell me, what is LS?
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LiquidSmooth
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From my experience w/ L from my aging galaxy tab 10.1 is great. Its smoother than KK.
AFAIK, @Asce1062 will make cyanhacker L. That's what he said on his thread and this will be due this DEC 20. We just hope so and wait.
For me, LS and cyanhacker will be great for L. Since this two ROMs were the smoothest of all KK I've ever flashed. Except for the last version of LS which is buggy.
So for now let's just wait and see.

vaikz said:
From my experience w/ L from my aging galaxy tab 10.1 is great. Its smoother than KK.
AFAIK, @Asce1062 will make cyanhacker L. That's what he said on his thread and this will be due this DEC 20. We just hope so and wait.
For me, LS and cyanhacker will be great for L. Since this two ROMs were the smoothest of all KK I've ever flashed. Except for the last version of LS which is buggy.
So for now let's just wait and see.
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Ok, thanks for reply. I read somewhere that @Asce1062 working on LS. he work on both or. Only cyanhacker L

So guys thank you for being patient, tomorrow is my last exam ...I'll sync on Friday and start working on Saturday, 20th as promised.
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Ok, thanks for reply. I read somewhere that @Asce1062 working on LS. he work on both or. Only cyanhacker L
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Yes, I have been syncing LS trees since they had Lollipop ? before Cyanhaker. But now that will change . I will be building Cyanhaker (Which is now based off of CM 12)... The developers promised to implement the speed tweaks from LS and even improve on them. Then maybe later on I will build LS.
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