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Hello
the Jabra bluetooth headset (http://www.jabra.com/) seems to be fine!
But I want to use something like that fitting inside a motorbikers helmet!
Does anybody has an idea where to find a stereo headset (with a bluetooth dongle like that from jabra) fitting in a helmet?
Also I am looking for a good small extern stereo microphone for the XDA!
thanks for your informations
heiner said:
Also I am looking for a good small extern stereo microphone for the XDA!
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Audio input on the XDA is mono.
thanks for this hint concerning the audio input!
and where can I get a mono microphone with a fitting plug?
There's an accessory (not off the top of my head right now...) that converts between a 2.5 mm headset jack and the XDA's headset connector, and another one that does mic 2.5mm and stereo headset 3.5 mm.
Or solder something yourself... All the info is on
http://xda-developers.com/connectors
I know this isnt as high tech as a Bluetooth headset such as the Jabra... but as a low tech solution, Why not just use the headset that comes with the xda? You can certainly improve the ear fitting with some replacement ear sponges. or even better, slice into the cabling, and replace the earpieces with the SONY headphones that are like mini "in-ear defenders"
Quick tip: to solder headphone cables, use a soldering iron with a little cored solder to melt away and tin the very thin coating on the exposed cables, as headphone cables don't have sleeving in the traditional way. Dont hold it on for too long though!
Sorry, I can't quote any model numbers for the sony headphones, but the nice design feature is that
1) They are inside the ear, so it wont interfere with getting your helmet on/off
2) The Bass response with these headphones are even better than the standard xda headset. Because they are a snug fit like an industrial ear plug, so the ear canal resonates the sound better without losses. In a noisy environment you should find this better, e.g. with the roaring of a bike engine.
Advantage of modding with the standard headsetYou can modify the push to talk button by opening the pod and wiring a switch in parrallel to your handlebars, something thats easy to use with big bike gloves on, e.g. an automotive switch from Halfords. And of course the most important part, you get the xda four pole 2.5mm connector, which is very difficult to get hold of!
The other part of the push to talk switch "pod" on the xda headset is the microphone, so you could mount it somewhere in the part of the helmet near your mouth.
Obviously these ideas will need some "interconnect cables", from your xda to your handlebars, and from either to your helmet, I did see a posting with a motorbike cradle mount somewhere on this site.
Connectors
You should be able to get an inline solderable coupling connector (male & female) respectively from your local electronics shop or http://www.maplin.co.uk a small 3.5mm connector will suffice.
Obviously for the mic you need two or three connectors depending on how you rig it up.
You can get away with a mono one and one with three (in other words a normal stereo one) for the headphones, which has three poles
Headphones (stereo 3.5mm solderable plug & coupler)
1) Left
2) Right
3) Ground
Microphone (mono 3.5mm solderable plug & coupler)
1) Signal
2) Ground
Switch (mono 3.5mm solderable plug & coupler)
1) from pod button contacts
2) from pod button contacts
Obviously if you're not keen on using the phone while riding, then dont bother with the mic, switch etc, and just make up the headphones for music etc.
If this is the case, just buy the sony headphones and use a 2.5mm stereo to 3.5mm adapter (available at most maplin stores)
I've already done this mod using a replacement xda headset bought from expansys.com for a cassette adapter for in-car use. And have had many hours of music listening in between and during GPS instructions on long journeys!
Software called "Withmp3" is very good for in-car music playback (Its just like Winamp) because you can assign hardware buttons to skip tracks or stop the music. Even while using Tom-Tom navigator for example.
heiner said:
Hello
the Jabra bluetooth headset (http://www.jabra.com/) seems to be fine!
But I want to use something like that fitting inside a motorbikers helmet!
Does anybody has an idea where to find a stereo headset (with a bluetooth dongle like that from jabra) fitting in a helmet?
Also I am looking for a good small extern stereo microphone for the XDA!
thanks for your informations
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by far the safest way to do this is look at the communication/intercom systems currently on offer from motorcycle suppliers. i know no biker is ever going to have an accident, but things sticking in ears is probably not a good idea if head does hit the road.
i am 'lucky' enough to have a bike already fitted out with passenger intercom, radio and 'phone connection but i'm damned if i can find the right sort of 'phone connector and the bike manufacturer is about 2 years behind. so i suppose i'll have to find someone who can make one. any ideas?
ian
Motorola HS-830!
Bought two recently and they work just great!
Except for the fact that XDA/QTEK/etc... can't send audio, so I can't listen to MP3 using this helmet headset.
Anyhow, you can either use the helmet headset for phone calls or music (using iPAQ) or connect both helmet headsets to have a two way conversation with your passenger!
Work just great, and it comes with a neck lace, when not on the bike!
Audio bluetooth routing...
I found on this forum very little information about an audio driver (audio profile actually) product for PPC from AveLink: http://www.avelink.com/Bluetooth/Products/AudioDriver/index.htm
But they seem to integrate the MS Stack with two new profiles and the A2DP everybody is looking for!
I've been looking for a solution for... an eternity...
Anyhow can't find the product for purchase anywhere so I wrote them to see the features/price/etc... I'll let you know guys
Gee, hope is a strong feeling that leads us to keep trying... I can't even think on how much time I spent looking for this
I'm trying to wire my own car kits for XDA 1.
As there is no way i'm paying the prices asked for the proper car kits.
I already have an in-car holder with a connector fitted for my GPS, and I wish to solder in some more wires to link phone features in.
I've done some searching around the site and this is the info I've figured out so far..
Pin 1 for Microphone Input
Pins 3 & 4 for Audio Out
Pin 19 to tell XDA its in car mode
So my questions:
Are pins 2 & 5 the grounds for the Audio out ?
My car stereo has line inputs (phono connectors) can I just rig up these connectors to Pins 3 & 4 (with grounds) to get audio out ?
I have a phone mute wire on my stereo, what do I hook this upto, so that music will mute while in phone call / getting navigation instructions?
Thanks
Neil
Swifty said:
Are pins 2 & 5 the grounds for the Audio out ?
My car stereo has line inputs (phono connectors) can I just rig up these connectors to Pins 3 & 4 (with grounds) to get audio out ?
I have a phone mute wire on my stereo, what do I hook this upto, so that music will mute while in phone call / getting navigation instructions?
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Take a look at http://www.xda-developers.com/connectors/
There you can find all about the connector. Ground is ground, so you can use Pin 2 & 5 for your Audio.
Telephone mute at your car stereo won´t work easy. There is no pin at the connector that is used when a phone call is getting in.
The original car kit does this in a black box, that mutes every time a signal comes from the xda.
Just search a bit in the forum....
HTH
Stefan
Thanks already had a look @ the connectors page, its very usefull.
I've done some more searching but there are still a few things needing a bit of clarification.
1. Do I need any capacitors or anything else in the line from XDA to Line In on my car stereo?
2. Could one of the audio out feeds be split to also give the mute signal. If so how could i convert it so that the feed is Ground when outputting, and live/dead when not ?
Cheers
Neil
Anyone ?
i have my audio out direct to my line in on my car stereo
i have a mono analog sound amplifier for the mic in (using a carkit mic)
you dont have to do this, just dont put pin 19 to ground, and audio will go through the line out of the connector as well. you can just speak and the mic is fine for xda1
xda2 is very different , had to rewire everything
just take 4 or 5 GND wires from the connector
bundel them to 1 GND and put it to the - of you car
Thanks mate,
Can I just check a couple of things to make sure I don't kill my XDA or my stereo
1 - Nothing is required inline with the audio out 2 line in cables, they just hook straight up ?
2 - Only connect Pin 19 to ground if I don't want to use the internal mike?
Can anyone recommend a small mike, I can fit in the car to use with this setup ?
Cheers for all your help :wink:
^ Up we go
a external mic is a lot off trouble to build in
i can tell you that
if i was u and got a xda1, i would nog ground pin 19
use the internal mic
yes, just hook gnd and line 3 and 4 (audio?) directly to you line in of your car stereo, i think its stereo dependend. its a analog stereo sound wich is produced by your xda1, i have a line in for gps or dvd player audio on my stereo, so that works without any problem, clear sound
i have a nokia microfoon and a mono sound amplifier as a line in to GND and pin 1
Thats brilliant cheers mate,
I am really wanting to try putting an external mic on as the phone is mounted down low and quite a way from the drivers head so i don't think the internal mic would pick up clearly..
What size amplifier do you have for your mic ?
I'm thinking maybe getting a handsfree mic and mounting it up by the drivers head, would something like this be suitable to use with that? : http://www.maplin.co.uk/products/module.asp?CartID=031221163652177&moduleno=2904
Thanks for all the help
i have something very similar like that
for my xda2 that is
maybe if you havent started the wirering and soldering. you could do like i did
get a LPT printer connector, it has more then sufficient connectors for each wire, and they have numbers!
ideal. for future plans.
then i just get a second connector and solder that to every componnent
Great!
If it used a tie-clip style microphone would I still need to use an amplifier with it, as I imagine the pickup is reasonably good on them..
Is 2.5W enough ?
Many Thanks :wink:
i dont know with xda1, if i connect a portable mp3 player to my xda2, i must set it to at least 2/4 of volume.
@akira :
I'm wondering where to connect Pin 19 to ground...
Can i just lead one wire out of the connector and ground it to the car, to the ground of the audio (pin 2) or should i connect it to another ground on the connector... ?
Btw, i disconnected the org. ground from the connector from pin 2 (less noise)... So i have onder Ground-audio out on pin 2...
jpiek: Have you made your own kit ?
I would be interested on how you done yours, how you rigged your microphone up etc..
Cheers
Neil
Not yet, i used to have juts audio-out from the GPS cable on my XDA I.
For the XDA/MDA II i need to ground Pin 19. I still haven't done that since i don't have a external MIC.
Now i wish to be able to ground pin 19 with a switch. If "on" it will shorten the connection and use audio-out (for TomTom). I hope to be able to use the BT headset for phone.
If i don't use audio-out, i can disconnect Pin 19 and use the inernal mic for voicedail etc....
Are there any news on that topic? How can I generate a mute signal?
thanks
Mütze
Hi,
I have a SPV E100 what should be simular to the XDA's. I want to to nearly the same. My setup should work with a Safe2talk Handsfree Kit where I want to connect the Speakers/Audio to the Navigation/Phone in of my Blaupunkt radio. I also want to use a serial GPS receiver. I read different articels in this forum but could not find a answer to my question.
How could I realize a mute funktion?
Cheers
PT-1
I am not able to play audio through headphones on the Samsung Galaxy S i-9000. I have tried my own headphones and I have tried the headphones Samsung provides and it just won't work.
If I use the Samsung headphones I will get SOME sound through them if I really push it into the audio socket and rotate the headphone plug until it get's some signal but as soon as I let go the phone will say "no headphones connected".
I don't get the FM Tuner to work either because the phone won't recognize headphones are plugged in. I have tried THREE models of the Galaxy S i-9000 so far and it wouldn't work on ANY of those.
So what is your experience? It seems like a faulty production if I get it to work (well kinda) if I push the plug into the socket by force and it won't work (probably get pushed out a tiny bit) once I let go again with the headphones SAMSUNG provided themselves.
yes my headphones, sensi. headphones and fm transmitter all work fine.. i would say your phone is defective... sorry
Check for obstructions in the socket. It is just a headphone socket, you're either not putting it in firmly enough, or the socket is obstructed. Check the latter first.
Hi, I know certain Androids will work with external microphones and some don't, but the main problem is why doesn't it work.
Is it a software issue? If it is can someone show me how to modify my LG Thrill ICS Stock Rom to support reverse audio, as in a regular two-way cable or the microphone portion of the beats headphones (as all three buttons record when I use SoundAbout to force the phone to treat the beats wire as a microphone).
I am trying to get my tape recorder to record to my Android so I can use it as a storage medium for my programs. I have successfully used it on my Windows Mobile phone (which now has a poor battery life) and my Windows computer.
If the problem is a hardware issue, what type of wires (official or not) will allow me to work with the microphone. I don't think it is hardware because the buttons work on the beats wire just not the mic.
For the hardware, I have a smaller two-way earphone wire, a larger two-way earphone wire, my windows mobile adapter to connect the two and to record to windows mobile (HTC Warhawk), my phones, the beats wire, an earphone splitter for the bigger wire (the splitter can jump the circuit to transfer sound from one hole to the other and it has an input plug (the metal plug for the larger earphone port), my tape recorder with a separate smaller earphone and microphone port, and a portable charger for my windows mobile). I have more stuff but they are not required in figuring out how to solve this problem.
I could also use bluetooth to send the live audio over to the Android and the Windows Mobile and back, but that also means I need some free (if possible, open-source) software for both phones. If software like SoundAbout is needed, I would like to ask where to find completely free software instead of the free trial SoundAbout has.
If this problem gets solved, I can then find or make software the will take a file and stream it live to the speaker or wire while reading it and then being able to do the reverse with live audio into the ram or the file specified by the sound. I would also make it use root permission if I have to make it.
I know this can fit both in accessory and software development, and it is a question, but it is more of a problem-solution type question than a regular question. If someone feels this should be moved, Please move it to the proper area.
Thank You! --Brandon (bgbrandongomez)
I am thinking of replacing the stereo in my car with a dock for my Nexus6. I was going to just buy a new head unit for Bluetooth connectivity and hands free calling on the road. Then i thought why spend money on adding a layer between me and my phone since i don't use my radio anyway.
I have seen lots of write ups and videos of how to replace your stereo with a tablet. But the one thing I have never seen anyone do is add hands free calling for their phone.
I am hoping someone can tell me how to wire a mic in to a USB cable as I also take audio out to run to an amp and power in back to the phone. I am aware I will not have fade control just balance and I am good with that.
I am aware that I will need to run the output to an amp and my Jeep has one from the factory. I am not worried about wiring in a converter to supply power and already have one that charges the phone while using gps and play music at the same time and a dedicated fused circuit activated by relay so there are no issues with battery drain. I will build a custom dock with a USB cable mounted in it in the dash in place of the removed stereo. I plan on using one of the wired mics you use with an aftermarket pioneer stereo mounted on the dash. The specs for it are Polar pattern: Omni directional Mic diameter's 9.7*4.5mm Sensitivity:-47dB+/-2dB Frequency Range: 20-20KHz Output Impedance: ≤2.2 kΩ SNR: >58dB Standard Operation Voltage: 4.5V Operation Voltage: 1.0V-10V.DC Wire Length: 4 M Ref Pioneer part no: CPM1064 CPM1084
What I need is someone to please show me how to splice the cable so I can add rca connectors to audio out, mic in, and power in and have it work. Or if that can't be done I can add a qi charger to the dock if I can wire the speaker out and mic in as a usb headset and make that work. Or if I need to add a signal booster to the mic input to make it work please say so and give me specs to go find one.
Thank you in advance for any help or useful suggestions.
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I am thinking of replacing the stereo in my car with a dock for my Nexus6. ......
I am aware that I will need to run the output to an amp and my Jeep has one from the factory......
any help or useful suggestions.
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A hard card case or soft case with a metal 1 cm below the M-logo. A neodymium magnet on the dashboard. No car kit needed. The speaker of the N6 is loud enough for use in a car for navigation and phone. Same with microphone.
Option is to use a phone jack converter to connect the N6 output to the radio.
An example how I used my N7 in the car.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2137636/ - post #65
Note my N6 case has metal at the outside and below the M-logo, because behind the logo is a magnet sensor that switches off the screen.
Thank you, but I have children. I need to be able to play music, and their moms voice through the car speakers on long drives.
The car I prefer to drive is also noisy and my phone can't always hear me when it is in the dash mount.
What I want is just to make a wired connection to a mic, speakers, and power, through the micro USB port. So I get in the car, plug my phone in, and slide it into a permanent holder.
Money matters and this would be free, also convient since all my stereo did was get music and calls from my phone anyway.
I know how to wire in a Bluetooth reviever for the audio, and a qi charger so that would be wireless but I don't know how to get a mic input back to the phone, none of the premade affordable receivers I have seen have a mic input.
And I am aware I could take audio out and in from the 3.5 jack and either go wireless for the charging or have to plug in two cords in I get in the car.
I appreciate your help but I am looking for help to reach a specific solution that will be best for me.
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but I don't know how to get a mic input back to the phone, none of the premade affordable receivers I have seen have a mic input.
I appreciate your help but I am looking for help to reach a specific solution that will be best for me.
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I assumed already that you were looking for a custom and cheap solution, that's why I gave you mine. Just for the possibility you will get an idea.
About the microphone.
Wired headsets with earphones and microphone are normally connected to the 3,5-jack.
I think the mic-input-connector is there and not in the USB connector of the N6.
The N6 is not that different compared with other smartphones.
There are adapters available Google '3,5 inch headset adapter'
You are right in that there are dedicated connections already at the jack, and that they would be easy to just splice leads onto a standard wired headset to extend to where I want the leads to go. Even if i need to add a signal booster to the mic line.
My wife has a usb headset that works fine with my phone though so I know the capability is there, as with audio out on a usb connection to a stereo.
She wont let me cut up her headset to see what goes where though and it takes a while to get one from china. I was hoping someone knew so I could use what I have on hand rather than spending anything, I am cheap.
Thanks for your help, i have used my phone for music and handsfree when it's just me in the car on short hops. It does work fine for that and as a portable music player anywhere not to loud without any problems.
Once again thank you.
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She wont let me cut up her headset to see what goes where .
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Thank you. I spent my time researching if anyone has put an Android auto onto Raspberry Pi and stuck it in there car and I haven't Googled for the pan out yet because I haven't had time to rip open the dash in my car thank you I appreciate that period I'm having to voice text right now so please forgive me for poor grammar and spelling
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... so please forgive me for poor grammar and spelling
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You're welcome. It was nice to meet you.