Hi guys,
I'm still on 4.3 (LB) on my Z, and have just rooted my phone a few days ago using the new towelroot method - which worked a treat. Since then I have done a couple of things; downloaded SuperSu, iFont so that I could use different fonts on my phone & also I tried uninstalling some system apps (I think I did anyway!) using ES file explorer.
Anyhow, I noticed after doing this, my internal memory keeps getting very low despite me removing apps (games etc)! In fact, the more I am removing, the more I believe it's actually eating up memory! I only have like 1.7gb left & keep getting the stupid 'transfer to SD card' message - which is dumb seeing as I've transferred everything I could.. WHAT IS EATING THE MEMORY UP!?
So can anyone direct me if I am uninstalling system apps correctly? I am doing it by clicking on Root Explorer via ES file Explorer, then 'uninstall system app', then ticking the ones to uninstall. Is that right?
And also, is it worth updating to kitkat considering how many bugs are found with it atm? If so, should I update via OTA or PCC? As far as I understand, OTA keeps root, and PCC doesn't? For some reason I fear that updating whilst having root & a couple of system apps being uninstalled, it could mess up my phone...
Sorry for all the questions! The low storage in particular is driving me insane..
Many thanks!
SalamiQueen said:
Hi guys,
I'm still on 4.3 (LB) on my Z, and have just rooted my phone a few days ago using the new towelroot method - which worked a treat. Since then I have done a couple of things; downloaded SuperSu, iFont so that I could use different fonts on my phone & also I tried uninstalling some system apps (I think I did anyway!) using ES file explorer.
Anyhow, I noticed after doing this, my internal memory keeps getting very low despite me removing apps (games etc)! In fact, the more I am removing, the more I believe it's actually eating up memory! I only have like 1.7gb left & keep getting the stupid 'transfer to SD card' message - which is dumb seeing as I've transferred everything I could.. WHAT IS EATING THE MEMORY UP!?
So can anyone direct me if I am uninstalling system apps correctly? I am doing it by clicking on Root Explorer via ES file Explorer, then 'uninstall system app', then ticking the ones to uninstall. Is that right?
And also, is it worth updating to kitkat considering how many bugs are found with it atm? If so, should I update via OTA or PCC? As far as I understand, OTA keeps root, and PCC doesn't? For some reason I fear that updating whilst having root & a couple of system apps being uninstalled, it could mess up my phone...
Sorry for all the questions! The low storage in particular is driving me insane..
Many thanks!
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Use titanium backup to uninstall system apps.
Be careful about what system apps you are uninstalling
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Use titanium backup to uninstall system apps.
Be careful about what system apps you are uninstalling
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Thanks but I don't wish to install anymore apps especially when I have already got es file explorer. I just wanted to know if I am doing it correctly on that particular app.
I am pretty sure the apps I have tried unininstalling were safe to get rid of, they were stuff like playmemories.. Some live wallpapers I hated etc.
Any other opinions on my other questions anybody please? Safe to update OTA to kitkat after having deleted system apps?
You can check what is using the internal storage in Settings -> Storage.
Removing system apps with ES file explorer should work fine, although I haven't removed system apps like that for a long time. I usually freeze them with Ti Backup as they can be restored if needed that way.
You won't be able to update via OTA any more as you have removed system apps. OTA updates check if /system has been modified and fail if it has.
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kingvortex said:
You can check what is using the internal storage in Settings -> Storage.
Removing system apps with ES file explorer should work fine, although I haven't removed system apps like that for a long time. I usually freeze them with Ti Backup as they can be restored if needed that way.
You won't be able to update via OTA any more as you have removed system apps. OTA updates check if /system has been modified and fail if it has.
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I've already checked the storage part and it's just apps taking up space but the more I've deleted the more I believe space is disappearing =P I've deleted a big game I don't play to free up a bit more though
Anyhow, I didn't quite understand the last part of your paragraph/ending sorry. Do u mean it won't allow me to update OTA or check if it works? I can still do through pcc right and it won't affect anything? I know it will remove root but I'll just install the apk again
again. Just wanted to know if updating will mess up my phone because of the uninstalling of system apps.
Thanks!
I mean you can only update officially via PC Companion now. It will not mess anything up because of root or removing system apps.
When you update via OTA, during the update a check is made to see if anything has been altered in the system partition. Because you removed system apps, that check will fail and the OTA update will not go ahead.
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I mean you can only update officially via PC Companion now. It will not mess anything up because of root or removing system apps.
When you update via OTA, during the update a check is made to see if anything has been altered in the system partition. Because you removed system apps, that check will fail and the OTA update will not go ahead.
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Thats really informative, thank you. Now I understand =)
I noticed you're from UK too, did you update to kitkat the official way without flash etc? How do you find it and any problems like others have been getting? Eg. Music stutters, lags.. All these are putting me off and only thing making me want kitkat is the supposedly new and improved keyboard with emojis! But I hear there's also lag there too!?
You're welcome. ?
Yes, I'm from the UK. I got fed up of waiting for the 4.2 update and instead of moaning about it for weeks on end like some on here, I flashed Spanish firmware on my phone. Since then, I've either updated OTA or with Flashtool. Still on Generic Spanish firmware as it generally receives updates fairly quickly.
The KitKat update was a bit laggy to start with, but after a few reboots I'm having no problems with it. I can't really comment on the Xperia keyboard, as I use SwiftKey that has emojis in KitKat as well(which is now free incidentally and everyone should try it out).
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You're welcome. ?
Yes, I'm from the UK. I got fed up of waiting for the 4.2 update and instead of moaning about it for weeks on end like some on here, I flashed Spanish firmware on my phone. Since then, I've either updated OTA or with Flashtool. Still on Generic Spanish firmware as it generally receives updates fairly quickly.
The KitKat update was a bit laggy to start with, but after a few reboots I'm having no problems with it. I can't really comment on the Xperia keyboard, as I use SwiftKey that has emojis in KitKat as well(which is now free incidentally and everyone should try it out).
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I Think the very first few couple of updates from Sony did drag out insanely long for the UK, but now I think they are bringing them out too quickly lol.
So in other words, you'd recommend updating and a few reboots should do the trick? The battery drain everyone kept talking about I actually experienced before even getting Kitkat too, so not just a kitkat problem.
I can't guarantee it, but my phone is functioning fine after a few weeks usage and a few reboots.
The battery drain is down to Google Play services and requires an update from Google to fix it. Who knows when Google will fix it.
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Yeah I managed to fix the drain by doing several things but never downgraded it. Maybe I should just wait for a new update instead of going onto kitkat and regretting it coz im not at all familiar with flashing files etc
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Hello, i just got my first smartphone, i have AT&T and i didnt want an iphone and was more drawn toward andriod, so i got a captivate. I would really like to do alot of the things in the "Pimp my captivate" guide but i have some questions first.
1.) If i root the phone, and take off the bloatware, will i still get updates if i go to the check for updates in settings? (ex. like the gps fix and froyo update someday).
2.) Its not going to subtract any features from the phone is it ? (ex. the google syncing and everything will still work? Basically is the rooting process and or bloatware removal going to change the way the phone works besides the programs those being gone?
Ill admit i'm an andriod phone hacking noob, but i do know computers well and programming and have altered other devices in the past.
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I would like to know this as well.
stihl29 said:
1.) If i root the phone, and take off the bloatware, will i still get updates if i go to the check for updates in settings? (ex. like the gps fix and froyo update someday).
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Since no updates have come down yet, I don't think anyone is sure of the answer to this. Keep in mind that it's a good idea to make backups of the app APKs on your sdcard before you remove them (just in case you want to reinstall them).
stihl29 said:
2.) Its not going to subtract any features from the phone is it ? (ex. the google syncing and everything will still work? Basically is the rooting process and or bloatware removal going to change the way the phone works besides the programs those being gone?
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Removing AT&T's crappy apps won't affect the phone negatively at all. They simply won't be there, so you can't use them (if you find them useful). The only app that I can think of you may want to keep is the AT&T Hot Spots app so you phone can use free AT&T wifi at locations such as Starbucks.
Yes, you will still get updates as long as you do not install a custom ROM. (Rooting is ok).
The only functionality that will be removed will be that of the apps you delete
Thank you so much this clears up alot of the things I've been wondering.
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Rooting issues
I have tried everything I have found online. The superuser icon is there. I have downloaded several apps that require the device to be rooted. I turned on usb debugging, and turned it off. I've downloaded update.zip several times.
I'm not entirely a noob when it comes to tweaking phones. I flashed roms on windows mobile and performed all sorts of modifications I got off this site.
I have the superuser icon. I downloaded titanium. Titanium says it installed busybox. I downloaded the separate busybox app from the market. That app has a popup saying that a nand unlock is necessary for the app to work. When I run it in spite of the popup, it says the device is rooted, but can't find busybox. A whoami command in adb will indicate that I'm not. I went though adb to reinstall busybox. But whenever I try to run any significant commands (eg su) it gives me a permission denied error. Googling permission denied gives me a myraid of possible causes, but it seems I'm getting far afield. I just want to get rid of the bloatware for now.
Is there another program to root this thing? Did I just miss something incredibly obvious?
hello, I recently just rooted this beast, and was wondering when, why, and how often i should clear out the dalvic cache
kamots said:
hello, I recently just rooted this beast, and was wondering when, why, and how often i should clear out the dalvic cache
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You shouldn't ever need to unless you are installing a ROM that requires it. the Dalvik Cache is the Java VM that Android Runs on and it does a very good job of keeping itself cleared. It does lots of Garbage collection on its own.
gotcha! thank you
After doing the 1.3 update and root, TB is no longer finding apps. Not even the ones currently installed on the Nook. Was there something I missed or is it something that needs to be fixed in TB?
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After doing the 1.3 update and root, TB is no longer finding apps. Not even the ones currently installed on the Nook. Was there something I missed or is it something that needs to be fixed in TB?
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I'm having this problem too with a fresh download of TB free. All I get is an "Overview" screen, and it won't do anything useful after that. There are no apps shown. Using a ManualNootered 1.3. Tried rebooting a couple of times. When launched, I get a confirmation message saying Superuser privilege granted, so it's apparently not that.
I accidently deleted a folder containing photos, I tried downloading DiskDigger, Undelete and Hexamob...all for root which I have. When I opened them they ask for root and I allow, then you are supposed to be able to choose which device you want, but there is nothing there. It says if there isn't anything there than you don't have root...but this seems to be a recurring problem after I updated my D4 using the OTA update, that even though I am rooted, a lot of the programs do not work anymore.
Does anybody know of a way I can attempt to recover those pictures I accidetly deleted??!
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I accidently deleted a folder containing photos, I tried downloading DiskDigger, Undelete and Hexamob...all for root which I have. When I opened them they ask for root and I allow, then you are supposed to be able to choose which device you want, but there is nothing there. It says if there isn't anything there than you don't have root...but this seems to be a recurring problem after I updated my D4 using the OTA update, that even though I am rooted, a lot of the programs do not work anymore.
Does anybody know of a way I can attempt to recover those pictures I accidetly deleted??!
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Did you use something like rootkeeper when you took the OTA? If not then the OTA to ICS probably caused you to lose root. You'll need to root your phone again.
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I don't think you have root if most of your programs that required root in GB no longer work after you upgraded to ICS. You need to use OTA Rootkeepr to keep root after an upgrade. So your only choice now is to root and to run those programs to try to recover the photos.
I actually flashed back to orig non-root GB before I updated because I had changed too many things and OTA would fail. I used the droid for win tool and flashed GB system to my phone then went to settings system and got the OTA. After that I rooted. since then most root programs work like rom toolbox, titanium backup for root, root explorer etc. but some programs just don't work anymore, like Droidsheep or Wireless Tether, I believe they just aren't compatable with ICS...I know that a lot of people on google play are saying that after they did their ota wireless tether would not work anymore..everything works on it except it won't switch into AD-HOC mode , which is what I'm guessing changed in the OTA.
I tried using some recovery program for mac but it didn't work, right now I'm downloading riplinux and a couple other recovery distros. since the files were on my removable sd card I am just going to plug it in and try and recover from a computer....does any one have any methods that work best?
When you pull the files off your SD card let me know which program worked for ya... please and thank you
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Hey guys, Idk why but recently my phone is going crazy
I first noticed this a few months ago, I was playing Injustice and it kept pausing. At that time my internal memory was 75% full, so I thought that might be the problem so later I uninstalled the app
But recently all my other games and video streaming apps(Twitch ,YouTube etc) keeps pausing, my Album app is bugged (though the Movies app works fine), camera force closes. Even my keyboard acts buggy sometimes. I tried formatting my phone memory, still no effect.
I think it could be a virus but I tried Clean Master (I guess this isn't a good choice) and it shows nothing is wrong
So do you think it's a virus? If it is, what should I do and if not, any particular solutions?
Thanks in advance guys and I hope I posted this thread in the proper section
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Hey guys, Idk why but recently my phone is going crazy
I first noticed this a few months ago, I was playing Injustice and it kept pausing. At that time my internal memory was 75% full, so I thought that might be the problem so later I uninstalled the app
But recently all my other games and video streaming apps(Twitch ,YouTube etc) keeps pausing, my Album app is bugged (though the Movies app works fine), camera force closes. Even my keyboard acts buggy sometimes. I tried formatting my phone memory, still no effect.
I think it could be a virus but I tried Clean Master (I guess this isn't a good choice) and it shows nothing is wrong
So do you think it's a virus? If it is, what should I do and if not, any particular solutions?
Thanks in advance guys and I hope I posted this thread in the proper section
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If you're rooted, try clearing the cache and dalvik cache. Or maybe reinstall the ROM, that's what I usually do when my phone starts acting up. It's annoying, but worth it. What ROM are you on BTW?
Plum Crazy said:
If you're rooted, try clearing the cache and dalvik cache. Or maybe reinstall the ROM, that's what I usually do when my phone starts acting up. It's annoying, but worth it. What ROM are you on BTW?
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Well Actually I'm using the stock 4.3 ROM and I haven't even rooted my phone
I tried rooting it, but couldn't unlock the bootloader
You don't need to unlock the bootloader to root Try TowelRoot. My advice is to do a fresh install with Flashtool, with a non-carrier specific ROM (no bloatware). When I was on eXistenZ Ultra, my phone slowed down after a few days. I think this happened on the stock ROM too, it might be a bug.
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You don't need to unlock the bootloader to root Try TowelRoot. My advice is to do a fresh install with Flashtool, with a non-carrier specific ROM (no bloatware). When I was on eXistenZ Ultra, my phone slowed down after a few days. I think this happened on the stock ROM too, it might be a bug.
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I tried TowelRoot, it shows that my phone is rooted but when I use other apps to check my root status like Root Checker or Titanium Backup it shows "The phone isn't rooted"
Damn, I suck at this
Did you flash a superuser app after rooting?
You can check root with the app 'root check' (appstore)
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Maybe TowelRoot doesn't work properly on .207 (if you're on that firmware). Have you followed the instructions in this thread? You might have missed something - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2783885
Is there anyway to disable the system update notification? For a variety of reasons I don't want to upgrade to 6.0 yet. I have root on stock debloated 5.1
Thanks.
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Is there anyway to disable the system update notification? For a variety of reasons I don't want to upgrade to 6.0 yet. I have root on stock debloated 5.1
Thanks.
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I tried two rooted debloated roms that both said OTA disabled and i got the nag notification on both. Disappointing!
Same here! I myself used TB to freeze all the system apps which were supposed to trigger the OTA updates, but I still got it. I moved the update.zip from the cache directory somewhere else, so if I accidentally hit update, nothing will happen. But still a nuisance.
Anyone with an idea?
Is this a new problem? For dumb reasons I ended up having to reflash Rydah's stock rooted 5.1 image yesterday and starting mostly all over, it's a pain in the butt. I did freeze pr.adapt and update center but this notification popped up to update. I definitely do not want to update. I thought the rooted ROM blocked updates? I guess not because the notification is there. I tried disabling Google play services notifications but the notification persists.
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OK guys, I got rid of my notification. I used titanium backup and froze everything I could on the following list,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-g4/help/debloat-package-list-lg-g4-t-mobile-h811-t3168181
I froze very few from the following list, still working on it after my mishap yesterday.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/help/lg-g4-stock-debloater-list-g4-variants-t3167297
The notification was still there, but I decided to reboot and now the notification is gone. Hopefully it sticks. Where can I find the update.zip so I can delete it and clear up some space.
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Same here! I myself used TB to freeze all the system apps which were supposed to trigger the OTA updates, but I still got it. I moved the update.zip from the cache directory somewhere else, so if I accidentally hit update, nothing will happen. But still a nuisance.
Anyone with an idea?
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Where is the update.zip hiding? I too am not ready to update, but cant block it. Thanks
jhmcat said:
Where is the update.zip hiding? I too am not ready to update, but cant block it. Thanks
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Using a root explorer, in the internal memory, go to /cache. It's about 970mb.
waylo said:
Using a root explorer, in the internal memory, go to /cache. It's about 970mb.
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Got it moved (not deleted). Thanks!
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Got it moved (not deleted). Thanks!
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Hmm, I found it comes back from time to time. So definitely need to get to the bottom of what pulls down the update. Still don't think we've nailed the offending apk/service.
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Hmm, I found it comes back from time to time. So definitely need to get to the bottom of what pulls down the update. Still don't think we've nailed the offending apk/service.
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As of yesterday and last night, update.zip did not return after I froze all those apps. I wish I could've pinpointed the exact app. All I can say was I froze all those apps on the first list, and maybe line one or two from the other list and the notification was still on the screen. I rebooted because after freezing so many apps, I was worried about a boot loop. My phone booted fine and the notification was gone and it didn't come back. I just checked cache and update did not come back
Well damnit, the update.zip came back probably last night. I don't have the notification though, that is gone but I'm not happy having that file come back. If anyone at all can pinpoint the reason it comes back, please post!
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Well damnit, the update.zip came back probably last night. I don't have the notification though, that is gone but I'm not happy having that file come back. If anyone at all can pinpoint the reason it comes back, please post!
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Mine came back too. Deleted the update.zip again.. but would like to disable it for sure.
You could always try moving the files, then put a same-named read only (e.g. chmod 440) file in it's place - or maybe safer yet is put a directory of the same name there.