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Who thinks they have gotten the battery life sickness?
I think i am. Keep trying to get 3 days of battery life out of my Galaxy S...
Tried Superpower/APN Droid/ other apps. but still its hard.
I guess the only way is not to use it?
Should i just ignore the battery life?
My wife will just charge her phone every night, no matter its left with 20% or even 80%.
Charge every night. Ever since I started using smart phones, I have given up on battery life. 3 days battery life is a myth.
I can get two days tops with very little use, and that includes using juice defender turning on data/wifi every 15 minutes for only 1 minute to sync.
Yah i should do that. haha. Just charge the phone b4 i sleep
the best and most efficent method is to put it in airplane mode anytime you arent really using the phone and not expecting calls or messages... The phones says the display eats up the battery but, really its the radio that gobbles up battery life
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the best and most efficent method is to put it in airplane mode anytime you arent really using the phone and not expecting calls or messages... The phones says the display eats up the battery but, really its the radio that gobbles up battery life
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Hmm sounds like getting a mp3 player or Ipod touch will be sufficient? haha
I don't get it. There are days that my battery gives more than 60 hours, and days that it dies in 20 hours without changing apps, brightness or anything, just a few more calls. I really don't get it.
tsinc said:
I don't get it. There are days that my battery gives more than 60 hours, and days that it dies in 20 hours without changing apps, brightness or anything, just a few more calls. I really don't get it.
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Oh... u shld give advice how u manage 60 hours..
the only time i can manage that is when i am overseas. I switch to 2g permanently and without any data.
Rarely called. received less than 10 sms
Seifer1975 said:
Charge every night. Ever since I started using smart phones, I have given up on battery life. 3 days battery life is a myth.
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No it's not, just stop using the phone
And don't use magical battery apps - they're apps, they need power to run... if you constantly have it "adjust" something, well, it'll consume as much power killing your other apps (which aren't even scheduled to run anyway), or doing other cheap tricks, that they make it worse than before...
I can tell you that my brother's phone lasts a week...
It's on all the time, but he just doesn't use it... (that means: no apps, no internet, ...)
The point is, you have a certain amount of power available, and whatever you do on the phone consumes a part of it. The more you fiddle and toy around with it, the shorter lasts your battery. An inactive app is fine - may take up RAM, but it's at least not actually running. Killing it, on the other hand, is an action - a task that is being executed, thus consumes power.
The worst thing I've seen are "app killers" which run in the background...
That is simple not a solution.
A solution is: getting those apps to not start.
However, you might notice that you see most of your apps in task manager - even if you don't use them. And in fact, they often aren't doing anything. Of course this does not apply to apps like skype, trillian, fring etc. since they, even when not in the foreground, DO stuff, like checking your contacts' online status, keeping the connection alive, checking for email if you have that configured...
If you phone does nothing - no email, no internet, no IMs, no text messages, no calling people all the time...
then your phone lasts days, up to a week...
hey everyone,
firstly, i just wanna say that the HTC Incredible S is a solid and terrific device, previously owning an iPhone 4 i might like the HTC better, except for some things...
The battery:
i read some reviews before buying and every reviewer seemed to love the phone and what the battery has to offer. I've owned the phone for a week, and charge it through the USB cable, connected to my PC, and sometimes the wall socket.
But it seems to me that the battery is a bit short.... if i want the battery full i will let it charge overnight, the next day i powered it on, sent a few texts and listened to half a song and the battery has already drained to 70%, coming to this from an iPhone 4 is disgusting.
I've got Auto-Sync and background data working, i like push notifications for Emails and Facebook and i like the weather to update on its own, also HTC sense incase i need to do things remotely, everything else has been set not to sync.
One of my favorite features is Auto Brightness, which is enabled on default, but when i check battery use it says that 70% has gone to the display, 12% cell network and everything else. I have a task killer that kills all processes when i turn the screen off..
Any help??
Wiping the battery stats a few times helped me, I used to recharge the phone to full battery and after unplugging it from the charger, it would drop to 94% in a few seconds...Oh, after 2-3 weeks, not after a week!
Also I get twice the battery life on Cyanogen 7.1, than on any other Rom I've tried...I get at least 2-3 days with good usage, tons of mails, sms, calls, weather apps etc. Wifi and BT always on. No juice defender or anything like that...
Dropping to ~95% can also be normal though. To preserve the battery the charging circuit should cutout when it reaches 100% charge and let it discharge to 95% before turning on again.
If you do wipe the battery stats make sure you read some guides and do it properly as I've found that more often than not it will have a detrimental affect (from needing to charge before it has fully discharged, or needing to reboot etc).
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Wiping the battery stats a few times helped me, I used to recharge the phone to full battery and after unplugging it from the charger, it would drop to 94% in a few seconds...Oh, after 2-3 weeks, not after a week!
Also I get twice the battery life on Cyanogen 7.1, than on any other Rom I've tried...I get at least 2-3 days with good usage, tons of mails, sms, calls, weather apps etc. Wifi and BT always on. No juice defender or anything like that...
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wipe the stats? sorry im still new to android but so far so good, im impressed with everything else in the incredible s, its very snappy and has a bigger screen vs iPhone 4.
if it helps, i have the phone fully turned off if i charge it overnight.
also, i read on another forum that while it's still brand new it needs to run a few charge cycles to strengthen the battery, if that is true.
It always drops to 95% when the battery is fully charged. S-ON Incredible S is not allowed to wipe battery status. Should I unlock it?
Yes, I forgot to mention...to wipe the battery stats you need to unlock the Hboot...If you have Hboot 1.16.000, then the only option is this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1337105
Unlocking the Hboot is giving you a few benefits, you get to install the CWM recovery and do a full backup of your Rom...Without unlocking the Hbtoot, if your Rom crashes, you can't flash any Rom so you have to send it back to HTC Service ...With the Hboot unlocked you can install custom Roms, you can restore a full backup, you can flash GAPPS etc, wipe battery stats directly from recovery etc etc...
So many benefits...
Now back on how to wipe the stats...The principle behind is simple, if 100%=4.3V and the stats are incorrectly set for 100%=3.9V, then you're never actually recharging the battery to full capacity, which is rubbish...
The way I do it is this - charge to 100%, boot into recovery and wipe the battery stats. Now use the phone until it's shutting down and then charge to 100% again.
Very important is to avoid rebooting the phone after the stats were wiped until the phone is fully recharged. Here is a thread about this process:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1359395
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Jess95 said:
wipe the stats? sorry im still new to android but so far so good, im impressed with everything else in the incredible s, its very snappy and has a bigger screen vs iPhone 4.
if it helps, i have the phone fully turned off if i charge it overnight.
also, i read on another forum that while it's still brand new it needs to run a few charge cycles to strengthen the battery, if that is true.
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In my view, recharging while the phone is off makes no difference.
Yes, it's true. With all my Android phones I went through the same thing, first week or so, the battery was rubbish, but after about 2 weeks it improved a lot.
yeah, i've had it for around one week. so i might take your word for it and give it a chance, maybe for 2 weeks. i was thinking of bringing it back to the store but i'll give it a chance.
a part from the short battery at the moment it's a pretty terrific phone and i like it more than the iPhone 4.
Once the battery is conditioned, phone is rooted, custom Rom installed, bloat frozen out or uninstalled, then you can expect your phone battery to last a good full day with regular usage. No need to switch off when charging over night.
Well its incredible enough for me
It lasts a day, which is just right for me haha
Did u remove the USB immediately aft the charging?
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well i've had it for almost 2 weeks now. I charged again overnight last night and used it to listen to music and play NinJump/Bejewled on the way home today, battery uptime was just over 30 mins and the battery was down to 70% remaining. That's a bit quick if you ask me.
Not sure what's happening with your phone...but my Inc S has really good battery life, similar to Iphone 4...
At the moment is not rooted (that's why I couldn't take a screenshot) and it's on stock 2.3.3. With BT and Wifi always on, with tons of e-mails daily, browsing, calls (at least 20 minutes per day), tons of messages, etc etc
Screen brightness is always set to maximum and I get at least 2 days battery life, see attached photo...
I'm not playing games or listen to music...so I can't test that side of things and maybe that's where the problem lies.
What's your Battery Usage app saying?
Is there anything unusual listed there?
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well i've had it for almost 2 weeks now. I charged again overnight last night and used it to listen to music and play NinJump/Bejewled on the way home today, battery uptime was just over 30 mins and the battery was down to 70% remaining. That's a bit quick if you ask me.
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Maybe try disabling the Optus bloatware. Had a bit of an improvement when I did it to mine. Also be mindful about what apps are running in the background constantly, they could also have an impact on battery life. Screen is a huge battery killer if its constantly on, autobrightness can help slightly if you haven't enabled it already.
Thanx everybody for the replies
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Not sure what's happening with your phone...but my Inc S has really good battery life, similar to Iphone 4...
At the moment is not rooted (that's why I couldn't take a screenshot) and it's on stock 2.3.3. With BT and Wifi always on, with tons of e-mails daily, browsing, calls (at least 20 minutes per day), tons of messages, etc etc
Screen brightness is always set to maximum and I get at least 2 days battery life, see attached photo...
I'm not playing games or listen to music...so I can't test that side of things and maybe that's where the problem lies.
What's your Battery Usage app saying?
Is there anything unusual listed there?
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That battery usage sounds awesome! I have mine on Auto Brightness and WiFi turned off but its nothing like yours. My battery usage app says most of it has gone to the brightness, of course that percentage goes down when i start opening apps.
edit: im also using the stock Android 2.3.3 installed from the factory. and disabled my Advanced Task Killer, battery is still the same, but the phone now lags a lot less. so thats a plus for now.
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Maybe try disabling the Optus bloatware. Had a bit of an improvement when I did it to mine. Also be mindful about what apps are running in the background constantly, they could also have an impact on battery life. Screen is a huge battery killer if its constantly on, autobrightness can help slightly if you haven't enabled it already.
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When i first got the phone i noticed Optus loaded it with rubbish apps i'd never even touch. I disabled auto updates for the bloatware and forced stop for all the ones running. it doesnt look like i can remove them though :\
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Did u remove the USB immediately aft the charging?
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Yes, after i charge it for some time i always remove the usb cord. cos its finished charging, right?
Hi when you get such good battery life, could you show us how long your screen's on for?
do you get good reception where you live? i find that seems to drain most of my battery.
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Not sure what's happening with your phone...but my Inc S has really good battery life, similar to Iphone 4...
At the moment is not rooted (that's why I couldn't take a screenshot) and it's on stock 2.3.3. With BT and Wifi always on, with tons of e-mails daily, browsing, calls (at least 20 minutes per day), tons of messages, etc etc
Screen brightness is always set to maximum and I get at least 2 days battery life, see attached photo...
I'm not playing games or listen to music...so I can't test that side of things and maybe that's where the problem lies.
What's your Battery Usage app saying?
Is there anything unusual listed there?
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tzuyang said:
Hi when you get such good battery life, could you show us how long your screen's on for?
do you get good reception where you live? i find that seems to drain most of my battery.
Thanks
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ok atm my incredible s is saying 4 hrs 26 min uptime and 1 hr 21 min awake time, 50% left. my signal here is great, the speed of the internet even beats my ADSL 2+ sometimes. should i be thinking of warranty back to store?
Before i rooted my phone i was charging my phone twice a day - this was nothing new to me as i had been charging my 3gs at least twice a day for the past two years.
However like somebody else has said, once the phone is rooted and all that optus junk has been deleted it lasts a lot longer. And you can notice the difference, my phone has been rooted for 2 days now and i have been on it none stop, modding all the appearence and downloading apps. I have been using it a lot more than i was before it was rooted and it has lasted at least twice as long. So for battery usage i should deffo root. Its HTC sense/screen that hammers your battery. Go look at battery usage and yourll see what i mean.
Also, i know this might sound stupid. But charging it through a wall socket (for me) seems quicker to charge, and seems to last longer than if its charged through a laptop/PC. Although ive thought this for my 3gs as well. If its actually true i dont know haha.
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Before i rooted my phone i was charging my phone twice a day - this was nothing new to me as i had been charging my 3gs at least twice a day for the past two years.
However like somebody else has said, once the phone is rooted and all that optus junk has been deleted it lasts a lot longer. And you can notice the difference, my phone has been rooted for 2 days now and i have been on it none stop, modding all the appearence and downloading apps. I have been using it a lot more than i was before it was rooted and it has lasted at least twice as long. So for battery usage i should deffo root. Its HTC sense/screen that hammers your battery. Go look at battery usage and yourll see what i mean.
Also, i know this might sound stupid. But charging it through a wall socket (for me) seems quicker to charge, and seems to last longer than if its charged through a laptop/PC. Although ive thought this for my 3gs as well. If its actually true i dont know haha.
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sounds just about right. my iPhone 4 needed a charge like once every 2 - 4 days, i thought it was awesome. On the Incredible S it says that 62% of the battery usage has gone to display, with very little apps on the list.
The optus apps are just sitting there. Because im on Amaysim i can't exactly use them properly because you need an actual optus account. ive tried opening some of the optus apps, they're mostly just web links and theres a Mobile TV and a Music Store app i believe, but i never at all use them. so they cant be consuming any data, memory or battery or anything, right??
Im still unsure about 'rooting'. Im guessing it's android's version of the jailbreak or a godmode on the device? i might need some help on it, i know how to flash windows mobile and jailbreak iTouch devices easily.
But then again, a lot of people have bought this phone, they cant all be experiencing terrible battery life and i dont think every user would have a root on their device.
I bought it from DickSmith here in Aus, the guy there told me there's a 1 yr back to store warranty. The phone is solid and one of the best phones i've ever had, plus a good price tag on it, its a shame to let a weak battery spoil it.
im thinking of returning it, but i heard somewhere it needs a couple weeks to strengthen the battery, if that's the case then there's no point getting a new one only to wait longer, ill give it a little more time. Plus HTC is releasing 2.3.5 software for the Incredible S soon, and wikiPedia states that it's got "Improved battery efficiency". but ill still keep root in mind for when i get more use to the device.
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Hi when you get such good battery life, could you show us how long your screen's on for?
do you get good reception where you live? i find that seems to drain most of my battery.
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Yes, about 40min to 1hour display on... sometimes more...I will attach a screenshot once I get throughout the whole battery.
Yes, generally good coverage and mostly 3G...I'm on Optus.
My phone has been rooted before, but now it's on stock Rom as an experiment...
I would strongly advise on rooting, it changes the phone completely.
And remove any animation (live wallpapers) those are killing the battery.
Also found one more thing. If you've got Facebook installed it refreshes every hour, i set mine to never refresh, but you can still receive notifications
But i still don't get why the battery drains soo quickly, even on standby.
edit: found one more thing.
uptime and awake time. when i turn the screen off and awake time should stop counting as the phone is locked and im not using any apps, right?? in some cases i've noticed the awake timer still counts.
example: awake time will read 1:52:39, turn the screen off at this point. go back a couple hours later it's been counting as awake the whole time, and has half battery life it did eventhough i haven't touched the device since locking it and turning off the screen.
in some cases the awake timer will not budge when i lock the phone and turn the screen off and still find the same amount of battery life remaining when i come back.
I just bought the note yesterday from a local Verizon store.
I really love it but my battery life is literally TERRIBLE. I've googled a bunch to try and find a solution but I haven't gotten a straight answer. I've heard to resync your google accounts, swipe data and reload everything, but nothing have seemed to be solid.
I am a pretty avid user of my phone and I decently know what I am doing. I am coming from a Razr Maxx x912 with CM10 snapshot M11.
So I charged up to 100% at 10:38 am this morning, went to the Cardinal Lions game. Wanted test the phone out and used pretty significantly. When I got home it was 6:00 pm and I was left with 26% battery. That is not okay.
I am using Google Now Launcher because I hate that you can't center the apps icon on their launcher.
I have location on/off when appropriate, wifi on when needed, no bluetooth, automatic brightness, close out active programs, etc. Nothing out of the ordinary that would suck up the battery.
My battery stats are reading with Android System at 25% use and Screen at 22%.
I've read people getting a total of 22-24+ hours with their Note 4. I'm not even getting about half that.
Did I get a bunk battery? Does anyone know of something I could be doing that is abnormal for battery use?
The phone does runs hot to the touch on it's back. I also get messages from advanced task manage that cloud or facebook has lagged and overdraws battery. I don't know of anything else I've done differently than any use of my other phones that would change my battery draw.
I'm willing to go back to the store and swap out this phone for another Note 4 because I do love the phone.
If anyone would have any ideas I'd appreciate it. Thanks!
I consider myself a moderate to heavy user (gmail, hotmail, facebook, linkedin, dropbox, whatsapp, skype all syncing), often reading news and diff articles throughout the day, light game use.
I only leave wifi on when i'm at home or somewhere where i connect to wifi, otherwise it's turned off.
I usually get from 7am - 11pm with 30% left. Screen on time is the killer - playing games i notice the battery drop quickly.
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I consider myself a moderate to heavy user (gmail, hotmail, facebook, linkedin, dropbox, whatsapp, skype all syncing), often reading news and diff articles throughout the day, light game use.
I only leave wifi on when i'm at home or somewhere where i connect to wifi, otherwise it's turned off.
I usually get from 7am - 11pm with 30% left. Screen on time is the killer - playing games i notice the battery drop quickly.
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I would say I am at the same level of use. Emails read and write, Reddit poops, typical facebook scrolling, instragram butts, news, text, Use bluetooth at the gym with wireless headphone, but no games or anything really consuming.
Do you see my situation as typical or atypical as in, is it obscure enough to go in and ask for a different Note 4 since because of the battery?
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I just bought the note yesterday from a local Verizon store.
I really love it but my battery life is literally TERRIBLE. I've googled a bunch to try and find a solution but I haven't gotten a straight answer. I've heard to resync your google accounts, swipe data and reload everything, but nothing have seemed to be solid.
I am a pretty avid user of my phone and I decently know what I am doing. I am coming from a Razr Maxx x912 with CM10 snapshot M11.
So I charged up to 100% at 10:38 am this morning, went to the Cardinal Lions game. Wanted test the phone out and used pretty significantly. When I got home it was 6:00 pm and I was left with 26% battery. That is not okay.
I am using Google Now Launcher because I hate that you can't center the apps icon on their launcher.
I have location on/off when appropriate, wifi on when needed, no bluetooth, automatic brightness, close out active programs, etc. Nothing out of the ordinary that would suck up the battery.
My battery stats are reading with Android System at 25% use and Screen at 22%.
I've read people getting a total of 22-24+ hours with their Note 4. I'm not even getting about half that.
Did I get a bunk battery? Does anyone know of something I could be doing that is abnormal for battery use?
The phone does runs hot to the touch on it's back. I also get messages from advanced task manage that cloud or facebook has lagged and overdraws battery. I don't know of anything else I've done differently than any use of my other phones that would change my battery draw.
I'm willing to go back to the store and swap out this phone for another Note 4 because I do love the phone.
If anyone would have any ideas I'd appreciate it. Thanks!
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I assume that your phone would have been using more battery at a stadium with 50, 000 other cell phones its visinity. Your phone would be losing a lot of packets with so much traffic around it
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trichrome1 said:
I assume that your phone would have been using more battery at a stadium with 50, 000 other cell phones its visinity. Your phone would be losing a lot of packets with so much traffic around it
SM-N910W8 on Rogers Canada
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that might be the case but as I was reading forum posts about the battery life on the way home from the stadium I could watch my battery % decrease. On a 20 minute car ride I went from around 33% to 30%.
Compared to other reactions to the battery life online, I don't doubt my battery is depleting abnormally for some reason whether it is in a stadium or not.
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I would say I am at the same level of use. Emails read and write, Reddit poops, typical facebook scrolling, instragram butts, news, text, Use bluetooth at the gym with wireless headphone, but no games or anything really consuming.
Do you see my situation as typical or atypical as in, is it obscure enough to go in and ask for a different Note 4 since because of the battery?
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Yeah it seems to be draining a bit more than mine. I also listen to about 1-2 hrs music (or podcast listening), plus 1 hr using Runkeeper (that by itself only drains 3-4%).
Maybe give it a few days for the battery to settle in, then see what kind of battery life you're getting?
Are you using Lte, 3g or Edge?
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I just bought the note yesterday from a local Verizon store.
I really love it but my battery life is literally TERRIBLE. I've googled a bunch to try and find a solution but I haven't gotten a straight answer. I've heard to resync your google accounts, swipe data and reload everything, but nothing have seemed to be solid.
I am a pretty avid user of my phone and I decently know what I am doing. I am coming from a Razr Maxx x912 with CM10 snapshot M11.
So I charged up to 100% at 10:38 am this morning, went to the Cardinal Lions game. Wanted test the phone out and used pretty significantly. When I got home it was 6:00 pm and I was left with 26% battery. That is not okay.
I am using Google Now Launcher because I hate that you can't center the apps icon on their launcher.
I have location on/off when appropriate, wifi on when needed, no bluetooth, automatic brightness, close out active programs, etc. Nothing out of the ordinary that would suck up the battery.
My battery stats are reading with Android System at 25% use and Screen at 22%.
I've read people getting a total of 22-24+ hours with their Note 4. I'm not even getting about half that.
Did I get a bunk battery? Does anyone know of something I could be doing that is abnormal for battery use?
The phone does runs hot to the touch on it's back. I also get messages from advanced task manage that cloud or facebook has lagged and overdraws battery. I don't know of anything else I've done differently than any use of my other phones that would change my battery draw.
I'm willing to go back to the store and swap out this phone for another Note 4 because I do love the phone.
If anyone would have any ideas I'd appreciate it. Thanks!
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In my case battery was really better after few cycle , after a little week
ShannonAUT said:
Are you using Lte, 3g or Edge?
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LTE SM-N910V
On 4.4.4
Im moderate user with dropbox, google drive and 3 email accounts sync on. With power savig mode on I go from 7am to 11pm on 60 - 65% battery capacity. I keep screen on manual settings (automatic is to low for my likings) and phone is not rooted so I can't disable some applications running in background (same of them i.e tmobile my account I can close manualy in application manager). Install battery monitor to check if your phone ever go into "deep sleep" or if there is offensive app what keep it "awake" all the time.
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So you're complaining because you left home used your phone all day to make it back home again and still have bayyery? I'm confused.
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Jakib2 said:
I also get messages from advanced task manage...
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Stop using task killer type apps.
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Stop using task killer type apps.
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Why do you say this? I've never heard to not use them before, so if something else is more efficient or less burdensome that would be great! My task killer has given me the message of apps causing CPU lag and overdraining the battery wit the option to "BOOST". Not exactly sure what this means.. I assume it means boost (kill) completely. Is this normal?
I'm complaining because I've heard so many people loving the battery life on their Note 4, claiming to have a battery life of 22+ hours while I am barely getting 13. I want to ensure that I didn't get a bunk battery and that I might need to swap it out at the store. I love the phone but it bothers me to watch the battery % deplete before my eyes as I use it.
That being said, I watched 20 minutes of the science of interstellar last night after draining the battery completely and then charging it back up to 100% and at the end of the 20 minutes 92%. 8% loss over 20 minutes of video should not happen. Have anyone experienced something similar?
Since Android 2.3, task killer apps will significantly reduce your battery life. When an app is sitting open in the background it is just stored in RAM and is not using any power. When a task killer tries to kill it, it removes it from memory and then the system loads it up again. That causes power drain.
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Jakib2 said:
That being said, I watched 20 minutes of the science of interstellar last night after draining the battery completely and then charging it back up to 100% and at the end of the 20 minutes 92%. 8% loss over 20 minutes of video should not happen. Have anyone experienced something similar?
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Was that a streaming video or locally saved? If you're streaming over LTE I wouldn't consider that too unusual.
You also haven't given any screen on times, which are very important. I can let my phone sit idle and get ~15 days out of it if I don't touch it, but I could also use it for 7 hours of watching a movie with the screen on and kill it.
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Since Android 2.3, task killer apps will significantly reduce your battery life. When an app is sitting open in the background it is just stored in RAM and is not using any power. When a task killer tries to kill it, it removes it from memory and then the system loads it up again. That causes power drain.
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Was that a streaming video or locally saved? If you're streaming over LTE I wouldn't consider that too unusual.
You also haven't given any screen on times, which are very important. I can let my phone sit idle and get ~15 days out of it if I don't touch it, but I could also use it for 7 hours of watching a movie with the screen on and kill it.
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I was streaming it over wifi via the youtube app, so it was nonlocal.
My stats show Android system at 27%, and Screen 12%.
I charged to 100% this morning and am at 93% now after screen time of 13m 15s.
That's actually really bad if it was over WiFi.. I had this test done (and throughout that post), but the one linked is at 95% of 41 minutes OST (1st post on that page); I also have three emails running (Push - two hotmails, one exchange for work); My test was basically running a Crunchyroll video for the whole time.. I was able to get a little over 8 hours OST at the end of the test; However, if you left your phone on for a few hours, then that's pretty good.. remember the standby mode does kill battery too.. I use a 'deepsleep' mode when my screen is off (80%+ deepsleep from CPU Spy);
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/general/note-4-battery-thread-t2893547/page66
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I was streaming it over wifi via the youtube app, so it was nonlocal.
My stats show Android system at 27%, and Screen 12%.
I charged to 100% this morning and am at 93% now after screen time of 13m 15s.
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CPU Spy for 48 seconds.. I'll post one with a bit longer time next.. but you get the point.. try to get deepsleep when your screen turns off.. (for example, I turn off all the radios (except cellular and bluetooth) when I turn off the screen.. The app I use for this is DS Battery... I had the 8 hours OST test done while using DU Battery, DS Battery, and Memory Manager Full all at the same time.. so now only down to DS Battery left.. from what others say, the apps that clear memory are bad because it reloads them back into services/memory and thus gets more battery drain.. just like getting out of a car door (while you are driving to the store) every minute to check on something, then getting back in.. better to just sit and go the whole trip and get out at the end (which deepsleep mode can do).. the app can run, but it can't do anything because the wifi/mobile data radio is off.. (just like if there was no 'car' in the example);
5 minute run.. dropped a lot but still over 95% of off screen time is 300mhz or deepsleep..
michsu said:
5 minute run.. dropped a lot but still over 95% of off screen time is 300mhz or deepsleep..
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Great. Thanks I downloaded CPU spy and DU Battery. I'll look into DS Battery.
Other than turning off radios when in DS, do you have any other suggestions?
I was using Google Now Launcher, which I think ran the Okay Google option all the time which sucked some life. I switched to Nova and relinked my google accounts and it seems to be running better.
Ill charge it full and then run it dry and report back with my results.
Jakib2 said:
Great. Thanks I downloaded CPU spy and DU Battery. I'll look into DS Battery.
Other than turning off radios when in DS, do you have any other suggestions?
I was using Google Now Launcher, which I think ran the Okay Google option all the time which sucked some life. I switched to Nova and relinked my google accounts and it seems to be running better.
Ill charge it full and then run it dry and report back with my results.
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Turn off Google Now if you don't use it
Turn off Location/GPS or make sure it runs only in power saving mode
Turn off location history in Google settings
Use auto-brightness
Disable Pen detection in the S Pen settings
Disable S voice responding to double-tap of the home button (in S Voice settings)
Don't use the Google search widget which listens for the "OK Google" command
TeslaUnread for Nova Launcher prime drains some battery too, don't use this unless you really like it
Use power saving mode when going out for a big day rather than relying on it as the battery is almost drained
Disable any apps you don't care about i.e. carrier bloat, Google apps like Play Movies, Books, Newstand and Samsung apps like the TV/remote apps, video player if you're using an alternative, cloud syncing processes and print/spool ones as well. This may not make a big difference but it's nice to get them out of sight anyway.
And most importantly, as mentioned previously, don't kill your apps. The only time I kill an app is for big 3D games as I like them to go away rather than sitting in RAM. I also have a little routine, when I do a reboot and full charge, I run all of my common apps like Hangouts, Messages, Phone, Chrome and my weather app so that they are sitting in RAM already while my phone's at 100% rather than draining my battery during my commute to work in the morning. I don't really have any particular reason to do this as my batter never gets anywhere near 0% by the end of the day, I'm just OCD with seeing it drain too much before I even get to work.
I don't think most of the suggestions above are too extreme. Unlike uninstalling commons apps such as Facebook/FB Messenger, or disabling your data/wifi/bluetooth or even turning sync off. To me this is taking away from the purpose of a smartphone, but each to their own.
Hey everyone!
I got my Note5 near launch day. I love everything about it, except the battery life.
Basically, I am not satisfied. I barely make it through the day with moderate usage. The crux of my problem is idle/standby battery drain.
This has been a problem for me ever since I got my Note5 and even for some of my old phones (M8 on Lollipop).
The Issue: I'm fine with how the battery drains when I'm actively using it. I'm not going to go into much detail about that, but I'm satisfied with how fast I seem to be killing the battery while using it. The part I'm not satisfied with is how much the battery drains when I'm not using the phone. Obviously, this must be an issue with wakelocks. When you look at the screenshot below for Android OS, it is always wake for more than 2.5+ hours in a 15 hour usage period. Now, I'm not sure if that's normal anymore. I don't remember how it was on KK, nor do I know if that's what everyone else is getting.
The Issues Cont: So yeah I have massive idle drain. (I estimated that I get about 1.5-1.6% battery drain per hour. I charged my phone up to 100% and let it sit idle overnight for a span of about 8 hours or so. It went from 100 to 91 during that time). What this means for me is that, I can use my phone less and less because while it sits in my phone, it dies quickly! On GSam, it shows that my battery discharged 38% while the screen was off! Again, I don't know if this is 'normal'. What is everyone else getting?
What I tried: I tried factory resetting. Nope. I tried reflashing the firmware, factory resetting. Nope. I booted into safe mode and left it idle overnight. Still dropped to about 92% or so, IIRC. I actually had the GS6 Edge before the Note5, but I returned it because of the ****ty battery life. Then I inserted my S-pen backward and broke the sensor in the Note5, so I got a replacement. For each instance, I always got crappy battery life. So I am doubting that this is a hardware issue. I tried minimizing the apps installed so minimize wakelocks, but it didn't seem to help.
What I want: Honestly, I just want to be able to use my phone and have it not drain so much while it's in my pocket or on the desk. I want to be able to go into a lecture for a few hours and come out with maybe 1% drain, not 3% or 4%. And I want to do this without rooting. I don't want to trip Knox, and I'm tired of rooting and spending hours tinkering with my phone to get decent battery life.
Attachments: I uploaded screenshots of almost everything I thought would be pertinent. Please have a look and hopefully we can compare results and figure out whether this is normal for a Note5 or not!
All screen shots here: http://imgur.com/a/xDZcN
Thanks everyone!
I reckom its something you are downloading is doing it. Add one app at a time and see what it does.
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Yes there is something keeping your device awake. Rogue app. First guess would be that Facebook messenger app. Look in settings for your running applications, try to limit those to ones you absolutely need using package disabler. If you don't know what's OK to disable, read through the debloating guidelines thread.
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dannyyang524 said:
Hey everyone!
I got my Note5 near launch day. I love everything about it, except the battery life.
Basically, I am not satisfied. I barely make it through the day with moderate usage. The crux of my problem is idle/standby battery drain.
This has been a problem for me ever since I got my Note5 and even for some of my old phones (M8 on Lollipop).
The Issue: I'm fine with how the battery drains when I'm actively using it. I'm not going to go into much detail about that, but I'm satisfied with how fast I seem to be killing the battery while using it. The part I'm not satisfied with is how much the battery drains when I'm not using the phone. Obviously, this must be an issue with wakelocks. When you look at the screenshot below for Android OS, it is always wake for more than 2.5+ hours in a 15 hour usage period. Now, I'm not sure if that's normal anymore. I don't remember how it was on KK, nor do I know if that's what everyone else is getting.
The Issues Cont: So yeah I have massive idle drain. (I estimated that I get about 1.5-1.6% battery drain per hour. I charged my phone up to 100% and let it sit idle overnight for a span of about 8 hours or so. It went from 100 to 91 during that time). What this means for me is that, I can use my phone less and less because while it sits in my phone, it dies quickly! On GSam, it shows that my battery discharged 38% while the screen was off! Again, I don't know if this is 'normal'. What is everyone else getting?
What I tried: I tried factory resetting. Nope. I tried reflashing the firmware, factory resetting. Nope. I booted into safe mode and left it idle overnight. Still dropped to about 92% or so, IIRC. I actually had the GS6 Edge before the Note5, but I returned it because of the ****ty battery life. Then I inserted my S-pen backward and broke the sensor in the Note5, so I got a replacement. For each instance, I always got crappy battery life. So I am doubting that this is a hardware issue. I tried minimizing the apps installed so minimize wakelocks, but it didn't seem to help.
What I want: Honestly, I just want to be able to use my phone and have it not drain so much while it's in my pocket or on the desk. I want to be able to go into a lecture for a few hours and come out with maybe 1% drain, not 3% or 4%. And I want to do this without rooting. I don't want to trip Knox, and I'm tired of rooting and spending hours tinkering with my phone to get decent battery life.
Attachments: I uploaded screenshots of almost everything I thought would be pertinent. Please have a look and hopefully we can compare results and figure out whether this is normal for a Note5 or not!
All screen shots here: http://imgur.com/a/xDZcN
Thanks everyone!
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Never let Facebook or Games run in the background and MOST IMPORTANTLY disable location services completely. Keep it on a toggle and turn it off until you need it. Always keep it off or Google will ping your location once every minute. It literally halves battery life.
seh6183 said:
Never let Facebook or Games run in the background and MOST IMPORTANTLY disable location services completely. Keep it on a toggle and turn it off until you need it. Always keep it off or Google will ping your location once every minute. It literally halves battery life.
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I don't have the Official Facebook app installed.. And I almost always keep location services off, but the battery still drains as it does..
Use the smart manager app to stop certain apps from running in background and restrict background data for apps that don't need it in the mobile data settings.
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My battery is amazing and I can say this as I am a battery guru and have spent countless hours trying to squeeze all the juice out of my devices, which includes eliminating wake locks. If you had root you could figure it out, without root you'll have to start un installing apps 1 at a time until it get's better. Also check your exchange accounts.
I assure you something is wrong as my battery life is the best of any phone I've had.
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I don't have the Official Facebook app installed.. And I almost always keep location services off, but the battery still drains as it does..
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This probably won't be helpful at all as it is a complete shot in the dark, but perhaps you have an app that is trying to get your location continually since you have it off? Maybe try leaving location on. I never turn it off and I've been getting very good battery life on my T-mobile Note 5.
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This probably won't be helpful at all as it is a complete shot in the dark, but perhaps you have an app that is trying to get your location continually since you have it off? Maybe try leaving location on. I never turn it off and I've been getting very good battery life on my T-mobile Note 5.
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I also tried leaving location on as well. I can't really see an improvement as well. I actually only recently kept location off.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note5/help/wifi-cellular-data-time-draining-battery-t3203251
My device is unrooted
Everything was going great until the newest update that came last week. Since this my battery life has gone down hill fast. I feel like I'm back on my G1.
I have two questions is anyone else having this issue at all?
My other question is all my previous phones have had SD card spots so when I reset myphone all my pictures are stored there. If I reset myphone do I lose all my pictures?
Battery life has been good for me on that build and the recent fi build as well. Do you have a secondary battery meter like better battery stats? There is no sd card in the phone so yes that would be lost.
of course you can check why your battery times have dropped.. like maybe a stuck process or a certain app draining battery. im nearly 100% sure its not because of the update, but it can be user related. your signal quality could be worse as well, which will also drain battery faster.
wondercoolguy said:
My device is unrooted...
My other question is all my previous phones have had SD card spots so when I reset myphone all my pictures are stored there. If I reset myphone do I lose all my pictures?
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yes
why not use an auto photo backup app like picasa or similar?
you really should be doing this regardless. countless times people have come on here all frantic because something happened to their device and they lost all pics needlessly.
bweN diorD said:
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why not use an auto photo backup app like picasa or similar?
you really should be doing this regardless. countless times people have come on here all frantic because something happened to their device and they lost all pics needlessly.
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Cause I dont want Obama see my pictures!!! J/k
You bring up a good point I'll start the back up process when I get home....As I move closer to resetting my phone to see if it will fix my batterylife issue
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of course you can check why your battery times have dropped.. like maybe a stuck process or a certain app draining battery. im nearly 100% sure its not because of the update, but it can be user related. your signal quality could be worse as well, which will also drain battery faster.
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When I feel my phone getting hot or I notice the drain is going on I turn off my phone let it set to cool down or I just straight up restart it.
I live a pretty routine based life, Work, Church, Gym, Home.... So my signal life hasn't changed. My usage hasn't gone up or down....but my battery has since that update.
I do have battery apps to keep an eye on things. Display is number (of course) and number 2 which isn't normal is Android OS.
simms22 said:
of course you can check why your battery times have dropped.. like maybe a stuck process or a certain app draining battery. im nearly 100% sure its not because of the update, but it can be user related. your signal quality could be worse as well, which will also drain battery faster.
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One thing else I just noticed is my phone doesn't hit deep sleep either
Deep sleep is at 4hrs and 300mhz is at 13hrs
wondercoolguy said:
When I feel my phone getting hot or I notice the drain is going on I turn off my phone let it set to cool down or I just straight up restart it.
I live a pretty routine based life, Work, Church, Gym, Home.... So my signal life hasn't changed. My usage hasn't gone up or down....but my battery has since that update.
I do have battery apps to keep an eye on things. Display is number (of course) and number 2 which isn't normal is Android OS.
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well, what ive found out iver the years that im with android is that battery apps are pointless, and end up using your battery. just check you regular battery usage/stats. nobody uses their phones the exact same way every single time, its impossible. and when you are out, walking around, or driving, your signal quality will change, constantly. and apps, many times they will get a process stuck, and drain much more battery than normal. and then there is google play services, that will occasionally drain lits of battery, especially when its updating itself. in reality, there are numerous other reasons, besides the update, that will make you battery drain quicker. too numerous to list, lol.
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well, what ive found out iver the years that im with android is that battery apps are pointless, and end up using your battery. just check you regular battery usage/stats. nobody uses their phones the exact same way every single time, its impossible. and when you are out, walking around, or driving, your signal quality will change, constantly. and apps, many times they will get a process stuck, and drain much more battery than normal. and then there is google play services, that will occasionally drain lits of battery, especially when its updating itself. in reality, there are numerous other reasons, besides the update, that will make you battery drain quicker. too numerous to list, lol.
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my battery also has been going deep underground after last security update! nothing changed in the usage or the number of apps that i keep installed, so the suspect that the drain depends on the update in my opinion is becoming more and more real.
i also keep checking battery's stats and there isn't any anomaly or discrepancy compared to pre-update's stats.
I am in the same boat. I was using about 2-3 percent an hour before the security patch. But since the patch dropped I've been averaging about 10 percent an hour. I have to recharge at least once in the middle of the day. None of my apps changed.
Same here, noticeable difference in battery performance since last weeks update. Only change to apps is I am now using Google fit since last week, thought it was that but battery stats say otherwise.
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So last night I backed up all my pictures on my computer and the cloud. Tonight I will reset my phone before bed Ill have a better idea of what it will do tomorrow. It kinda stinks because I have this zooper/launchy/popup widget masterpiece going on my homescreen
Ill report back....
I have noticed the same issue since the OTA patch. Reminded me of my old Galaxy S where it would not go into deep sleep after being unplugged at a full charge without a reboot. I've gone without a reboot and with rebooting since the update and my phone is much better off after a reboot. About 7% per hour lost without compared to about 3-4% per hour lost with a reboot. Pretty consistent usage on a daily basis. Just my personal observation. I'm on AT&T though.
I got better battery life after the update... But then it went back to normal. I was being about 30 to 45 minutes extra SOT but now I'm back to my average times of 4-4:15 hours
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Take this for what it is.... I wake up at 545 grab my phone since the update by the time I get to work 7am it would be 96 or below.... I reset my phone last night and the phone seems back to normal at 99%-98%when I sit at my desk..... All apps reloaded and working before bed.....
My N6 is worse off for battery too after OTA update of last week. Seems like Google Services has just gotten a lot more aggressive doing what it is supposed to be doing. I hope Marshmallow will fix this.
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Well, mine also loses a lot per hr...and it alsways is the cell interface that is being kept awake over hours of time during a day.
Mainly email and Google services are the apps sucking it off...
Any ideas?
Factory reset and back to normal so far.
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