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[Q] internal memory usage list?

As many others have, I frequently run into a lack of internal memory on my nexus. I only ever have about 20 mb free. So today I decided to try and figure out what takes up all my internal mem.
I have a stock, non rooted phone running 83d.
I use apps 2sd and dolphin browser with cache on sd
I went to apps2sd and added up all the package sizes of the apps on my phone memory, came up to about 93mb. Yet I only have about 20mb free. That means about 70mb is being used up by other crap. Phone and contact storage is only 2mb each. So what is eating my memory and how can I find out? is there an app that'll chart out internal memory usage by app/file?

Disk Usage, from the market may help...
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Imbalance said:
As many others have, I frequently run into a lack of internal memory on my nexus. I only ever have about 20 mb free. So today I decided to try and figure out what takes up all my internal mem.
I have a stock, non rooted phone running 83d.
I use apps 2sd and dolphin browser with cache on sd
I went to apps2sd and added up all the package sizes of the apps on my phone memory, came up to about 93mb. Yet I only have about 20mb free. That means about 70mb is being used up by other crap. Phone and contact storage is only 2mb each. So what is eating my memory and how can I find out? is there an app that'll chart out internal memory usage by app/file?
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93mb of apps is just for the actual app .apk file. app data takes a HUGE amount of space.

most things i've got left on the phone don't really have much associated data from the ones i've checked anyway. Still, can't believe there's no app to show internal mem usage. There's tons of them for the SDcard... Also, diskusage is only for sdcard. I'd still like an easy way to see what's taking up all my internal mem and decide if i want to uninstall it or clear the data or whatever.

As soon as you open diskusage, it asks if you wanna see internal or external...
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I like this disk usage app,i find it interesting how the developer used the tap to com on the different layouts and how data is used

Hero AOSP/CM 2.3.4 pruning /data - Need Help

So a bit of history. When I first updated my phone from AOSP Froyo, I used Titanium Backup (as I often do) but this time I restored app + system data. I'm now in the process of shedding dead weight in /data and thinking this choice is chewing up some of my space. I have around 50 or so apps and I have ~29MB in data. I did find some dead weight in /data/tombstones which is uneeded crash report data. Still, this remainder of storage seems less than normal so thinking some of that transferred app data has something to do with it. I'm not interested in Fire Rat Mod at the present time, but my question is this:
is /data/data, the entirety of the app data restored by TB?

App2SD and Nexus 7

Hi guys,
You may know App2SD that is used for moving apps from phone memory to the SD card, in order to free up space on the phone. My question is, do we get any benefit from this app? Because the Nexus 7 has only internal memory.
Thanks,

vndnguyen said:
Hi guys,
You may know App2SD that is used for moving apps from phone memory to the SD card, in order to free up space on the phone. My question is, do we get any benefit from this app? Because the Nexus 7 has only internal memory.
Thanks,
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You basically answered your own question, Nexus 7 only has internal memory. That app is useless for Nexus 7, because it doesn't have an sd card
Sometimes apps get installed to a different bit of the internal memory, as if it's installing to a virtual sd card partition, but it's really just another section of your internal memory (/data) partition.
In short, you can shuffle the apps around all you like, but they'll still be on /data.
To actually free up some space on /data, you could move some apps to the /system partition, or move some updated system apps back to the system partition with an app like 'System Cleanup'

Sure, thank you mate.
Could you guide me in details how to "move some updated system apps back to the system partition with an app like 'System Cleanup' " as you said above?

vndnguyen said:
Sure, thank you mate.
Could you guide me in details how to "move some updated system apps back to the system partition with an app like 'System Cleanup' " as you said above?
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(Assume you're rooted)
- Install and open SystemCleanup
- By default, you should see updated system apps at the top of the list, should have some red text
- Click on each icon on the left hand side until it has a tick
- Long press (Update system apps)
- Press back, will ask you to reboot...then reboot
This moves the app from /data/app to and overwrites the old redundant copy on /system/app
You can also try to select some apps on /data and do the same thing as above, long press and select 'Move app to /system/app', reboot. This may not work for all apps though. For instance, I install a 3rd party launcher and move it to /system/app, and delete the stock launcher using 'SystemCleanup' as well.
Can save a little space this way, make sure you have enough space on /system in the first place, will say how much free space at the top.

very good guide. Thank you so much.
Cheers

Hi @eddiehk6
I have another question. Does it matter if I move apps to /system partition and this partition becomes almost full? Does it affect to overall perfomance?

vndnguyen said:
Hi @eddiehk6
I have another question. Does it matter if I move apps to /system partition and this partition becomes almost full? Does it affect to overall perfomance?
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Don't know to be honest. Depends what you fill the space with. System apps are given higher memory priority I believe, not absolutely certain but you'd have to read
I don't think SystemCleanup will allow you to fill it up the /system partition to the maximum as it were, so there's no danger of it not booting. I just use it to optimise space a little. It's much more useful on my Desire with very limited space compared to the Nexus 7

vndnguyen said:
Hi guys,
You may know App2SD that is used for moving apps from phone memory to the SD card, in order to free up space on the phone. My question is, do we get any benefit from this app? Because the Nexus 7 has only internal memory.
Thanks,
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The N7 is very effective at managing it's internal memory, if anything using apps that supposedly optimize or move data around are detrimental to the overall lifespan of your N7's internal memory.
If the wear leveling mechanic of the N7's memory controller is doing it's job properly all the controller really is doing is lying to the app that wants to move crap around willy nilly and just keeping it in the same place anyway.
Aside from deleting crap you dont need there is zero benefit and most likely nothing but bad results if you think you can do a better job managing the memory better than a memory controller and android OS that can run through millions+ of calculations in the time it takes you to blink.
It's fine where it is.

Where did all my storage go

I have used a reported 6gig out of 11 on my /sdcard0, and yet when I run sd analyst in es explorer it doesn't add up as you can see in the attachment.
Sd analyst seems to be correct because I don't have any huge games installed. So where did all my storage go?

Its all the apps Samsung puts on there that you cant delete.
If somebody starts a class action lawsuit on this device like they did with the iPad I am all over it. Its not even remotely fair that a 16gig device has 8.9gig free because of 3+ gigs of bloatware you cant delete.
I have an SD card, but the lack of app space is concerning me.

Except I'm not running touch wiz. I'm running a CM12 ROM. Any way if I'm reading it right, this is just counting /storage/emulated/legacy the user data partition. Very weird.

barth2 said:
Except I'm not running touch wiz. I'm running a CM12 ROM. Any way if I'm reading it right, this is just counting /storage/emulated/legacy the user data partition. Very weird.
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That does not make sense? I hope one of the Devs can come up with the answer to this mystery!

Correct me if I'm wrong, isn't it that if you root your device and get a rom let's say CM, as far as I know CM doesn't eat up a lot of space meaning depending on the contents of that rom, that 3gb bloat ware should be gone right?? Also this is what frustrates me with Samsung, we just can't have the option to write over to SD cards which I know can be a liability but look at the what we need to deal with. There's no 32gb version in my country so I'm always cramped up for space and I hate it, having to remove apps and games just to get by.
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Well I wiped my internal memory (drastic measure) and started over and now it looks correct. Not sure what was behind it.

More information would be great here. I know there's an incredible amount of Google bloat on these devices, but perhaps there is some information missing from the ES File Explorer results. I'd recommend downloading a dedicated app cache cleaner and a dedicated storage analyst app to get an accurate idea of all the things that are taking up storage. Some of the biggest offenders are browsers, but the one I've seen eat up a whole gigabyte on unknowing users' phones is usually the sneaky Google+.
Storage analyzer
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.levelokment.storageanalyser
1Tap Cleaner
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.a0soft.gphone.acc.free
steelbrachen said:
with Samsung, we just can't have the option to write over to SD cards which I know can be a liability but look at the what we need to deal with.
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Well, with Google Android Kitkat, it was decided that apps should only be allowed to write to their own sandboxed folders on the SD card anyway. Samsung has always been pretty good about at least allowing file management via a first party app, and even managing which apps can use the SD card are listed in the application manager, so I fail to see how Samsung is at fault here. (Meanwhile, in addition to demanding restrictions across the board to SD cards in Kitkat and then Lollipop, Google's more focused on forcing a social network on their users than writing a file manager for all the devices that DO have SD cards... or providing any decent AOSP apps in general.)
Sent from my Galaxy S5

Without going into too much detail the amount of available space is affected by the partition layout of the device. Esp with cm or custom rom that only takes up a couple hundred mb; the system partition ends up with a lot of unused space. If you were willing the modify your default partition table you could reclaim some usable space. Though I would place this in the advanced user grouping and would not recommend attempting it.

1gb of Misc files?

Got a new g900a yesterday. Rooted, updated to 5.0 via muniz method, tibu restored all my apps from my old gs3. As you can see, my misc files says it's taking up a gig of space, yet when I click it to see what's up, what's listed obviously is less than 1gb. I tried various file manager to pinpoint the **** taking up the space but found nothing.
Could they possibly be the frozen apps I set with tibu?

Still haven't found an answer to this, but I do know that it's not the tibu frozen apps as I deleted a few and nothing changed.

Could be a game or two. It seems like the APK size registers normally, but the OBB gets thrown in with Misc files. I had around 6GB of Misc files, 3-4 of that was games. I think Google Play Services takes up another nice chunk. I think you sitting at 1GB is probably fairly healthy. Most of us seem to be over 2GB.

Groovy! Thanks.