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hi,
I can't post in the developer sections, so a question here:
Has anyone rooted their UK moto X yet? Comes with 4.4.2
the motorola chat said they expect we'll be able to unlock the bootloader but I'm not holding my breath.
But rooting? Yes please!
talkingduck said:
hi,
I can't post in the developer sections, so a question here:
Has anyone rooted their UK moto X yet? Comes with 4.4.2
the motorola chat said they expect we'll be able to unlock the bootloader but I'm not holding my breath.
But rooting? Yes please!
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as of right now there is no root for 4.4.2 so you have to wait and see if someone finds a way to get root
or wait and see if you can unlock your bootloader.
talkingduck said:
hi,
I can't post in the developer sections, so a question here:
Has anyone rooted their UK moto X yet? Comes with 4.4.2
the motorola chat said they expect we'll be able to unlock the bootloader but I'm not holding my breath.
But rooting? Yes please!
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Yes. You can root your UK moto X.
janjan said:
Yes. You can root your UK moto X.
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this i want to hear he is allready on 4.4.2 and he can't unlock his bootloader yet so how is he going to root?
dray_jr said:
this i want to hear he is allready on 4.4.2 and he can't unlock his bootloader yet so how is he going to root?
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bingo!
just got unlock code
phew.. this looked like it was going to be the first phone in a loooong time I wasn't going to be able to root and it was already hurting!
talkingduck said:
bingo!
just got unlock code
phew.. this looked like it was going to be the first phone in a loooong time I wasn't going to be able to root and it was already hurting!
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well now your good to go check out my guide in the general section on how to flash twrp and get root.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2603358
dray_jr said:
well now your good to go check out my guide in the general section on how to flash twrp and get root.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2603358
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indeed, it's what I'm reading thru now! Thanks for pulling it all together!
talkingduck said:
indeed, it's what I'm reading thru now! Thanks for pulling it all together!
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np at all bro glad to help
talkingduck said:
indeed, it's what I'm reading thru now! Thanks for pulling it all together!
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Hi, I currently have a uk moto x xt1052 as well. Did the root process turn out ok?
I've read through dray_jrs guides but would like to hear your feedback
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bryan.huang said:
Hi, I currently have a uk moto x xt1052 as well. Did the root process turn out ok?
I've read through dray_jrs guides but would like to hear your feedback
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piece of cake! Just follow the instructions and you'll be fine.
then install the xposed framework, gravity box etc and you'll be flying!
@talkingduck I have a UK moto x... How did you get your unlock code please? Tried the Motorola site but says my device is invalid...
Volpine said:
@talkingduck I have a UK moto x... How did you get your unlock code please? Tried the Motorola site but says my device is invalid...
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Did you paste the numbers in one line correctly? I've heard others getting invalid responses when the numbers aren't in correctly.
Otherwise, I just followed the instructions here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2603358
good luck!
Yeah thanks... There was a gap in the middle...doh!!
Volpine said:
Yeah thanks... There was a gap in the middle...doh!!
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Cool! enjoy
Can I safely use the OTA update to 4.4.2 when I used the SlapMyMoto method (http://www.reddit.com/r/MotoX/comments/1t5ei6/guide_root_verizon_nondeveloper_moto_x_44/) to root my Moto X (so my bootloader is still locked)? If not, how can I update to 4.4.2 with root, if possible?
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Can I safely use the OTA update to 4.4.2 when I used the SlapMyMoto method (http://www.reddit.com/r/MotoX/comments/1t5ei6/guide_root_verizon_nondeveloper_moto_x_44/) to root my Moto X (so my bootloader is still locked)? If not, how can I update to 4.4.2 with root, if possible?
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why wont you people search and read before for you post this is the 3-4 thread about taking the OTA in the past 10 mins.
i mean come on the first thread title is [noobs] [ guide ] to accept an ota
and second please dont use that guide
use any of the guides on this site like mine
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2603358
or the creator of slapmymoto Jcase's guide in the Original Android development section
Really time to open a troll thread.
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I opened this thread a while ago :crying:. I did read the first thread but it I saw on xda somewhere that it wasn't safe to root if you used SlapMyMoto, and the thread didn't confirm or deny that statement. Which is why I posted this thread. I do apologize if this seemed like an obvious question to you, but I'm not that experienced in rooting/flashing/whatnot yet. So could you give me a straight answer please?
I read through multiple threads and I'm still unsure I can take the ota if I'm rooted with locked boot loader on 4.4.
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biggiestuff said:
I read through multiple threads and I'm still unsure I can take the ota if I'm rooted with locked boot loader on 4.4.
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Yeah, I won't be taking the risk. I read somewhere that you CAN update to 4.4.2 safely, but write permissions will be denied so you can't use things like Xposed. I'm just going to wait and watch the dust settle first.
biggiestuff said:
I read through multiple threads and I'm still unsure I can take the ota if I'm rooted with locked boot loader on 4.4.
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Why don't you try it yourself and let us all know how it goes, kay?
Cozume said:
Why don't you try it yourself and let us all know how it goes, kay?
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Okay just send me your phone and I'll gladly do it.
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There really ought to be discipline for blatantly posting without searching first. Sorry OP but wow....
The moto x forum is such a mess. Lol
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kj2112 said:
There really ought to be discipline for blatantly posting without searching first. Sorry OP but wow....
The moto x forum is such a mess. Lol
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Well the forums are inundated with a bunch of posts regarding unlocked bootloader X's. I don't know why people are having issues, they just need to disable all things root, go back to stock, then take the OTA. The solution to these has been documented a million times.
Our problem has to do with a locked bootloader, and there's not much information besides "wait for it to be rooted."
I'm sitting patiently (but anxiously, hah), but it's a bit confusing for everyone because we're all just sitting on our hands hoping for 4.4.2 root.
dray_jr said:
why wont you people search and read before for you post this is the 3-4 thread about taking the OTA in the past 10 mins.
i mean come on the first thread title is [noobs] [ guide ] to accept an ota
and second please dont use that guide
use any of the guides on this site like mine
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2603358
or the creator of slapmymoto Jcase's guide in the Original Android development section
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The noobs guide you are reffering to only talks about unlocked bootloaders...
I will not answer any question in regards to slapmymoto or pawnmymoto regards to accepting the ota
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And your guide too only only shows how to do it for unlcoked bootloaders. Is it so hard to give a straight answer? He wants root on 4.4.2 without unlocking the bootloader..
densets said:
The noobs guide you are reffering to only talks about unlocked bootloaders...
And your guide too only only shows how to do it for unlcoked bootloaders. Is it so hard to give a straight answer? He wants root on 4.4.2 without unlocking the bootloader..
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OK changed my op, I have tried to make it simple as possible and it for any ota up to date, if you hacked rooted with slapmymoto or pawnmymoto do not accept the ota, as to date , there is no root hack for 4.4.2 and may never be. If your boot loader is unlockable and you used jcases root method, then unlock your boot loader. To sum it up 4.4.2 requires a unlocked boot loader to gain root access in this point in time
Sent on my Gummy running Lenoto X
Thank you guys for clarifying what I meant, I know not to root now :good:
densets said:
The noobs guide you are reffering to only talks about unlocked bootloaders...
And your guide too only only shows how to do it for unlcoked bootloaders. Is it so hard to give a straight answer? He wants root on 4.4.2 without unlocking the bootloader..
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apparently you did not even read my guide because it tells you how to root both locked and unlocked bootloaders so next time read before you open you mouth and tell me i did not give him a straight answer
yeah because rooting 4.2.2 and 4.4.2 is the same thing right?
densets said:
yeah because rooting 4.2.2 and 4.4.2 is the same thing right?
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Yes. For unlocked bootloaders.
Sent from my Moto X cellular telephone...
kj2112 said:
Yes. For unlocked bootloaders.
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And if you had read the guy's post you would see he wasn't clear on when the thread was referencing locked bootloaders or unlocked bootloaders
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=50252348&postcount=4
Sometimes people can search and read and still not get it. Because some times the people giving the answers aren't clear in their explanations for a variety of reasons or because they leave out critical facts/steps that seem so basic to them they don't feel the need to include them but yet to a noob, you are lost without those critical facts/steps. Hence the need for:
Moto X Q&A Forum
It's interesting to see how many people are so concerned with root, yet bought a device with a locked bootloader. Especially considering how readily available Motorola has made the developer editions...
MotoX Developer Edition went from German 4.4.2 to Great Britain 4.4.2 to T-Mobile 4.4.2 no problem. Fastboot FTW!
flashallthetime said:
...To sum it up 4.4.2 requires a unlocked boot loader to gain root access in this point in time
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that is the way you should have written it (so people can see it).
SymbioticGenius said:
It's interesting to see how many people are so concerned with root, yet bought a device with a locked bootloader. Especially considering how readily available Motorola has made the developer editions...!
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First, in the US very few people buy off contract phones given the carrier subsidies are built into their wireless service contracts. And the Motorola Dev Eds (as is true of all Dev Eds) are only available off contract. So if you go with a Dev Ed, you are paying for a subsidy but not using it. Of course, you can buy an iPhone with your subsidized upgrade and sell it, but many people aren't willing to do this or don't know how to do this or are afraid of using craig's list/swappa/ebay to sell a phone. I know I was nervous the first time I did it.
Now things are beginning to change in that at least 3 of the major carriers are offering discounts on your bill if you will forego subsidized phone pricing, but for my carrier, to get a discount you have to enroll in their installment program and get the phone through them, and you can't get a Dev Ed through them. The discount does not equal the subsidy unless you are on a family plan using 10GB or more per month of data. But if you are, the discount exceeds the subsidy. So your best bet is to either stick with the subsidy built into your plan or go with Verizon's installment plan, but either way you can't get a Dev Ed.
Second, you can't customize the Dev Eds and while that may not be important to some people, a lot of people really like it. I bought a second Moto X just to get the wood back, lol! Not entirely true as I am going to use it for WiFi tether in my house as soon as I root it, but that wood back for only $25 extra sure was hard to resist.
So in the US with the subsidy and customization options, being readily available isn't the whole story.
Hey guys, I have a non-dev Verizon Moto x, and I was wondering if there's a way to root my phone. I am on 4.4.2 and CANNOT unlock the bootloader
Thanks guys!
Trpik4 said:
Hey guys, I have a non-dev Verizon Moto x, and I was wondering if there's a way to root my phone. I am on 4.4.2 and CANNOT unlock the bootloader
Thanks guys!
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Sorry to say but the answer is no. There is no known root path or exploit available to the public at this time for 4.4.2. The only option is an unlocked boot loader.
no downgrade to 4.4 possible?
no... bootloader in 4.4.2 is different from 4.4. check the threads... there's been many failures of bricked devices because of it.
unlock the bootloader. go pay that chinese guy the $40'ish bucks for the unlock code. got my code overnight. straight up and legit.
aldouse's info is correct.
I would just add one thing... paying ~$40 on the Chinese site selling unlock codes appears to no longer be an option. Seller is not responding. And rumor is that Moto caught up to the person.
Aw man I wish I knew about that seller while it worked. I would of loved to have done that. Looks like were SOL now OP
alienware777 said:
Aw man I wish I knew about that seller while it worked. I would of loved to have done that. Looks like were SOL now OP
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Yup. Unless you can sell your X on swappa, craigslist, ebay, etc... and use the money towards buying a Developer Edition X for Verizon.
Well, thanks for the help guys. If anything does come up please let me know. Thanks!!
Trpik4 said:
Well, thanks for the help guys. If anything does come up please let me know. Thanks!!
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No root ain't so bad on the x.
I think I have an idea for obtaining root on it...kind of use the stock recovery as the exploit
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Oh, @Trpik4 btw, the Chinese Website/Middleman is back. See -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/china-middleman-t2751177
Honestly I haven't found a reason to root this device, it runs amazing. Probably the only thing I would end up doing it blocking ads and that doesn't support the content creators
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KidJoe said:
Oh, @Trpik4 btw, the Chinese Website/Middleman is back. See -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/china-middleman-t2751177
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Thanks so much man, Checking this out now!!!
aldouse said:
no... bootloader in 4.4.2 is different from 4.4. check the threads... there's been many failures of bricked devices because of it.
unlock the bootloader. go pay that chinese guy the $40'ish bucks for the unlock code. got my code overnight. straight up and legit.
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Not straight up and legit. Stolen codes from moto! You want unlocked and root buy a ****ing developer edition. If everyone bought developer editions maybe carriers would be more likely to offer unlocked.
aviwdoowks said:
No root ain't so bad on the x.
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You'll not say so if you're in China. :crying::crying:
I need to use Xprivacy to enable google now and location logging.
That's tooooooooooooooo sad. So I kept using 4.2.2 and wanna get a dev. ed MOTO X+1.
Anyone working on the non pure editions by any chance? Can't wait
With the pure and nexus 6, we may be lucky to get root. I wouldn't count on more.
bmwh0r3 said:
With the pure and nexus 6, we may be lucky to get root. I wouldn't count on more.
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Sucks for those still nursing along unlimited data on Verizon. Pure edition isn't an option and some people aren't interested in a Shamu.
I don't mind the size of a phone. My previous was a note 3. But I am nursing my unlimited data lol
What does the Pure edition have to do with the unlimited data plan. I extended my unlimited data, and I can put any phone on it, can't I?
Motorola bootloaders are notoriously difficult to crack so I wouldn't count on it.
Wasn't there some middleman in China unlocking bootloaders on all the 2013 Moto phones? Does anyone know if that's still up or if it got shutdown?
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Motorola bootloaders are notoriously difficult to crack so I wouldn't count on it.
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@jcase and @beaups are on it but they will charge $25/device when it is available
godutch said:
@jcase and @beaups are on it but they will charge $25/device when it is available
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And when released I will instantly and HAPPILY pay that $25!
Would my first born be enough for vzw unlock and root? Lol
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I'd be happy with just root for the Verizon version. Is root dependent on bootloader unlocking at all?
Boot loader and root are independent but boot loader unlocking is needed IF you ever want to try Roms.
Ricowan said:
I'd be happy with just root for the Verizon version. Is root dependent on bootloader unlocking at all?
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bmwh0r3 said:
Boot loader and root are independent but boot loader unlocking is needed IF you ever want to try Roms.
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This potentially changes with lollipop. Currently root requires flashing a modified kernel which is only possible on unlocked bootloader.
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godutch said:
@jcase and @beaups are on it but they will charge $25/device when it is available
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I wonder if @jcase or @beaups are making any headway for us? My money is burning a hole in my google wallet[emoji6] lol
I noticed that not even the maxx has a working installation of cyanogen and was wondering if once the turbo has a working method for root will people be more likely to create an installation?
I'm really looking forward to over clocking my processor if so
DireWolfAlpha said:
I noticed that not even the maxx has a working installation of cyanogen and was wondering if once the turbo has a working method for root will people be more likely to create an installation?
I'm really looking forward to over clocking my processor if so
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Dev is working on CM12 for the Moto Maxx. We're not bugging him, so he can work in peace.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=59242949&postcount=2
ChazzMatt said:
Dev is working on CM12 for the Moto Maxx. We're not bugging him, so he can work in peace.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=59242949&postcount=2
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Do you think a moto maxx ROM would work for the droid turbo once it's rooted and boot loader is unlocked
DireWolfAlpha said:
Do you think a moto maxx ROM would work for the droid turbo once it's rooted and boot loader is unlocked
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Root is almost available for the DT but BL unlock is not guaranteed yet so no one can say if DT owners (like myself) will even be able to flash anything. Good question though.
DireWolfAlpha said:
Do you think a moto maxx ROM would work for the droid turbo once it's rooted and boot loader is unlocked
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I think will work
matheus_sc said:
I think will work
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Likely not. You can't just "swap ROMS" between a CDMA device and a GSM device.
GreaterLesser said:
Root is almost available for the DT but BL unlock is not guaranteed yet so no one can say if DT owners (like myself) will even be able to flash anything. Good question though.
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I helped a few people with unlocked turbos out in rooting theirs. I can confirm that the Moto Maxx TWRP does boot, but in the long run it'll need a few recoveryfs tweaks.
DireWolfAlpha said:
Do you think a moto maxx ROM would work for the droid turbo once it's rooted and boot loader is unlocked
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Probably not. Look at the top of my post (yes, this one) where I replied to matheus_sc.
r3pwn said:
Likely not. You can't just "swap ROMS" between a CDMA device and a GSM device.
I helped a few people with unlocked turbos out in rooting theirs. I can confirm that the Moto Maxx TWRP does boot, but in the long run it'll need a few recoveryfs tweaks.
Probably not. Look at the top of my post (yes, this one) where I replied to matheus_sc.
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Were those turbos XT1250s? Because nothing has been shown about someone working on BL unlock for the DT (XT1254)......yet. but ofc the XT1250s are already unlocked but not the XT1254s which is the model I believe he was asking about.
GreaterLesser said:
Were those turbos XT1250s? Because nothing has been shown about someone working on BL unlock for the DT (XT1254)......yet. but ofc the XT1250s are already unlocked but not the XT1254s which is the model I believe he was asking about.
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They were XT1254s. They were all prototype models and came unlocked from the factory.
r3pwn said:
They were XT1254s. They were all prototype models and came unlocked from the factory.
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Probably not this simple, but if we get root maybe the bootloader from one of these prototypes can be copied to a turbo using a dd command. Then we would all have unlocked bootloaders
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jhoutz said:
Probably not this simple, but if we get root maybe the bootloader from one of these prototypes can be copied to a turbo using a dd command. Then we would all have unlocked bootloaders
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I have one of their bootloaders. It's not that simple. Good thought, though.
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Probably not this simple, but if we get root maybe the bootloader from one of these prototypes can be copied to a turbo using a dd command. Then we would all have unlocked bootloaders
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That would not work because it is not signed by moto. The ONLY things that matter are: 1) Signed vs unsigned packages and 2) bootloader exploits. Some BL exploits require root, most do now since they have gotten advanced. I miss the days of hardware level exploits and stuff. No more though. Root will likely be needed for a BL unlock and I would assume once root drops people will start working on one. Jcase has unlocked many motos and I would assume he will work on one when he has time (he is sick and very busy).
So root will not allow a BL unlock by itself. I am not even sure if this root exploit removes /system write protection. Some don't. We just have to wait and see.
I was busy last week, but if there will be BL unlock for Verizon Droid Turbo, then I'll make the CM12 / CM12.1 universal.
Skrilax_CZ said:
I was busy last week, but if there will be BL unlock for Verizon Droid Turbo, then I'll make the CM12 / CM12.1 universal.
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Great news
Skrilax_CZ said:
I was busy last week, but if there will be BL unlock for Verizon Droid Turbo, then I'll make the CM12 / CM12.1 universal.
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Hi,
I haven't brought the moto maxx/moto turbo here in India. But I'll buy it soon and will be happy to help you in cm12 development.
Regards
##W4TCH0UT## said:
Hi,
I haven't brought the moto maxx/moto turbo here in India. But I'll buy it soon and will be happy to help you in cm12 development.
Regards
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Thanking you this way until my "thanks limit" re-sets. Thank you.
##W4TCH0UT## said:
Hi,
I haven't brought the moto maxx/moto turbo here in India. But I'll buy it soon and will be happy to help you in cm12 development.
Regards
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Great news, more devs make uor maxx even better
123421342 said:
That would not work because it is not signed by moto.
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Since when isn't a Motorola Engineering Bootloader signed by Motorola?
123421342 said:
Jcase has unlocked many motos and I would assume he will work on one when he has time (he is sick and very busy).
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But he already said he shows no interest in unlocking the turbo.
EDIT: Gah, double post didn't get merged.
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Since when isn't a Motorola Engineering Bootloader signed by Motorola?
But he already said he shows no interest in unlocking the turbo.
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If you dump the package yourself I would imagine it would no longer have the same check sum no? Jcase has said this about many devices and then out of nowhere released exploits. I am not asking him to, I am just saying he enjoys doing this and is really, really good at it. I can see him collaborating with the root author to develop a proper exploit if it does not already exist. Either way, this root probably won't be released for another few weeks, if ever.
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If you dump the package yourself I would imagine it would no longer have the same check sum no? Jcase has said this about many devices and then out of nowhere released exploits. I am not asking him to, I am just saying he enjoys doing this and is really, really good at it. I can see him collaborating with the root author to develop a proper exploit if it does not already exist. Either way, this root probably won't be released for another few weeks, if ever.
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No, if you dump the bootloader yourself, it will be signed with the exact same certificates as when it was compiled. As a quick demonstration, take a device (not the Turbo) and download a custom kernel for it.
Check (and make note of) the MD5 checksum. Then install it.
Boot it once or twice, messing around with it. Then dump it (via
Code:
dd if="/dev/block/platform/msm_sdcc.1/by-name/boot" of="/sdcard/boot.img"
) and compare the MD5 of your dumped image to that of the one that had not yet been installed. Zero difference.