[Q] attempted to downgrade. not bricked but scared - Moto X Q&A

Hello everyone. I made a noob mistake of misreading something for the 4.4 downgrade root and thought it said 4.4.2. So i attempted to downgrade from 4.4.2 with the sbf now some settings are messed up. I heard that if it didnt brick during the downgrade attempt it might brick getting an ota. I was wondering if using the 4.4.2 sbf woukd work to fix this problem or if this might cause a brick. Im on a verizon moto x . so to sum up question would the 4.4.2 sbf brick or fix a botched downgrade from 4.4.2

caramelbear said:
Hello everyone. I made a noob mistake of misreading something for the 4.4 downgrade root and thought it said 4.4.2. So i attempted to downgrade from 4.4.2 with the sbf now some settings are messed up. I heard that if it didnt brick during the downgrade attempt it might brick getting an ota. I was wondering if using the 4.4.2 sbf woukd work to fix this problem or if this might cause a brick. Im on a verizon moto x . so to sum up question would the 4.4.2 sbf brick or fix a botched downgrade from 4.4.2
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You can pretty much always sbf up/forward to a newer version, it's trying to go down/backwards to an older version that can get you in trouble.

caramelbear said:
Hello everyone. I made a noob mistake of misreading something for the 4.4 downgrade root and thought it said 4.4.2. So i attempted to downgrade from 4.4.2 with the sbf now some settings are messed up. I heard that if it didnt brick during the downgrade attempt it might brick getting an ota. I was wondering if using the 4.4.2 sbf woukd work to fix this problem or if this might cause a brick. Im on a verizon moto x . so to sum up question would the 4.4.2 sbf brick or fix a botched downgrade from 4.4.2
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Using the SBF of 4.4.2 is the best option. But because of the changes to motoboot and GPT.Bin in 4.4.2, and the attempt to downgrade, in most cases you will need to do a little more than just using RSDLite to flash the 4.4.2 SBF.
Consider visiting -> http://mark.cdmaforums.com/MotoX-ReturnToStock.html and using option 5. To play it safe, you might want to add a mfastboot erase userdata between the mfastboot erase cache and mfastboot reboot at the bottom of the list of commands. This WILL reset your phone to factory defaults and erase apps/data/settings too.

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[Q] DOWNGRADE 4.4.4 FOR 4.4.3 or 4.4.2. Is it possivel?

I updated my Motorbike X XT1058 for 4.4.4 (KXA21.12 VZW_XT1060_4.4.4-KXA21.12-L1.26_1FF) and it wanted to do the DOWNGRADE for 4.4.3 or 4.4.2. Some way for that?
The GPT.BIN in 4.4.4 is different from 4.4.3, which is different from 4.4.2, which is different from 4.4.0's.
Motoboot.img is different between 4.4.3 and 4.4.2. 4.4.2's is different from 4.4.0.
These will prevent a complete, successful and safe downgrade of the rom version.
If you've seen all the "don't downgrade or you'll brick" warnings, this is what its talking about.
This ^^^
But a better question is WHY would you want to downgrade?
I did not like because of the modification Verizon
Christian Correia said:
I did not like because of the modification Verizon
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Well, you really can't downgrade without great risk.
So better to live with it, or try the Chinese seller and unlock your bootloader for a fee. Then you can root, and change things that you can't change without root. Here is a long thread about the unlock code seller...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2751177
Otherwise, there isn't much you can do.
Darth said:
Well, you really can't downgrade without great risk.
So better to live with it, or try the Chinese seller and unlock your bootloader for a fee. Then you can root, and change things that you can't change without root. Here is a long thread about the unlock code seller...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2751177
Otherwise, there isn't much you can do.
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Actually you can do something that is risk because everything is a risk you can take and you never know what can happen but here it is: you can flash the 4.4.3 or 4.4.2 or 4.4.0 update over the 4.4.4 by using minimal adb flash tool and then just flash the 4.4.2 or desired version over but DO NOT FLASH THE gpt.bin!!!!!!!!That will screw up everything so after you flash everything but the gpt.bin you should do a cmd to reboot then you will be on the downgraded version!!! I'm not responsible for any bricked phones OK I tried this and the it worked for me so yea its a working procedure that YeS is a risky task so be careful!!!!:laugh:
DROID_4_UsEr said:
Actually you can do something that is risk because everything is a risk you can take and you never know what can happen but here it is: you can flash the 4.4.3 or 4.4.2 or 4.4.0 update over the 4.4.4 by using minimal adb flash tool and then just flash the 4.4.2 or desired version over but DO NOT FLASH THE gpt.bin!!!!!!!!That will screw up everything so after you flash everything but the gpt.bin you should do a cmd to reboot then you will be on the downgraded version!!! I'm not responsible for any bricked phones OK I tried this and the it worked for me so yea its a working procedure that YeS is a risky task so be careful!!!!:laugh:
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First this is an old thread...
Next, skipping gpt.bin and/or motoboot.img(or its components) HAS been a cause for bricks, and when it didn't brick, it caused extra bugs (like trying to go App Drawer -> Settings -> Security kicks you back to settings menu... and some having issues toggling wifi on/off... and some who tried skipping gpt/motoboot when applying the 5.1 update also had speaker phone issues).
For more, see the link in my signature on downgrading..
KidJoe said:
First this is an old thread...
Next, skipping gpt.bin and/or motoboot.img(or its components) HAS been a cause for bricks, and when it didn't brick, it caused extra bugs (like trying to go App Drawer -> Settings -> Security kicks you back to settings menu... and some having issues toggling wifi on/off... and some who tried skipping gpt/motoboot when applying the 5.1 update also had speaker phone issues).
For more, see the link in my signature on downgrading..
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My mistake you need to flash the 4.4.4 gpt.bin over the 4.4.2 gpt.bin so the device thinks your flashing a 4.4.4 firmware but in reality your flashing the 4.4.2 firmware..I think its easier to use RSD lite to flash the firmware but you need to do a couple of modifications to the 4.4.2 firmware.All you got to do is move the 4.4.4 gpt.bin to the 4.4.2 firmware then flash it if you get the moto.bin error just do the same step as said above with the gpt.bin but with the moto.bin file..Hopefully it worked out for you ?
DROID_4_UsEr said:
My mistake you need to flash the 4.4.4 gpt.bin over the 4.4.2 gpt.bin so the device thinks your flashing a 4.4.4 firmware but in reality your flashing the 4.4.2 firmware..I think its easier to use RSD lite to flash the firmware but you need to do a couple of modifications to the 4.4.2 firmware.All you got to do is move the 4.4.4 gpt.bin to the 4.4.2 firmware then flash it if you get the moto.bin error just do the same step as said above with the gpt.bin but with the moto.bin file..Hopefully it worked out for you ?
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Not sure why you are quoting me saying "hopefully it worked out..." as I'm not the one trying to downgrade.
I can assure you... mixing GPT.BIN/Motoboot.img parts from one Stock rom, with the GPT.BIN/Motoboot.img of another STOCK rom is not a good idea.. it has been cause for bricks and/or features not working correctly.
To suggest otherwise, without acknowledging the risks, is irresponsible, especially if you take some time to search the forums and see all the posts of people who have either soft or hard bricked their device while trying various processes to downgrade. And especially if you are someone willing to help those who have bricked following your advice.
I did try but no succes
KidJoe said:
Not sure why you are quoting me saying "hopefully it worked out..." as I'm not the one trying to downgrade.
I can assure you... mixing GPT.BIN/Motoboot.img parts from one Stock rom, with the GPT.BIN/Motoboot.img of another STOCK rom is not a good idea.. it has been cause for bricks and/or features not working correctly.
To suggest otherwise, without acknowledging the risks, is irresponsible, especially if you take some time to search the forums and see all the posts of people who have either soft or hard bricked their device while trying various processes to downgrade. And especially if you are someone willing to help those who have bricked following your advice.
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How can you downgrade from 4.4.4 to 4.4.2? I did try to downgrade the XT1060 Verizon,but it cannot be done,did try all options cut a line here ,edit a line there but still end up with the same 4.4.4 version.The idea i have is to downgrade to 4.4.2 and the use the sunshine to unlock the bootloader and after that to flash any ROM out there ,but never upgrade back to 4.4.4...Any help would be helpful...
Best Regards!
DejanPet said:
How can you downgrade from 4.4.4 to 4.4.2? I did try to downgrade the XT1060 Verizon,but it cannot be done,did try all options cut a line here ,edit a line there but still end up with the same 4.4.4 version.The idea i have is to downgrade to 4.4.2 and the use the sunshine to unlock the bootloader and after that to flash any ROM out there ,but never upgrade back to 4.4.4...Any help would be helpful...
Best Regards!
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It all depends on what rom you wanna flash if you flash cyanogenmod 12.1 you'll get the Lollipop update if you flash Cyanogenmod 11 you'll get back to kit-kat.
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DROID_4_UsEr said:
It all depends on what rom you wanna flash if you flash cyanogenmod 12.1 you'll get the Lollipop update if you flash Cyanogenmod 11 you'll get back to kit-kat.
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But you should know Sunshine developers charge a fee of 25 bucks to unlock and it works but you need to have a pay pal account and enough money for it
DejanPet said:
The idea i have is to downgrade to 4.4.2 and the use the sunshine to unlock the bootloader and after that to flash any ROM out there ,but never upgrade back to 4.4.4...Any help would be helpful...
Best Regards!
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its documented in the sunshine thread that once 4.4.4 is on your phone its too late. even if you manage to downgrade it without bricking, the parts sunshine relies on will already have been patched and cant be downgraded. so downgrading wont help you to get sunshine to work

VZW Dev Edition 4.4.4 FC Exchange

I have a VZW unlocked BL Dev Edition
I used Kryptonites VZW stock rooted 4.4.4 upgrade followed upgrade directions for the rom/kernal/baseband to the T for unlocked users and I keep getting this Force close.
Im thinking..... try RSD Lite do a Factory flash and then go back over it with Kryptonites Rooted version, what do y'all think>
qweesy said:
I have a VZW unlocked BL Dev Edition
I used Kryptonites VZW stock rooted 4.4.4 upgrade followed upgrade directions for the rom/kernal/baseband to the T for unlocked users and I keep getting this Force close.
Im thinking..... try RSD Lite do a Factory flash and then go back over it with Kryptonites Rooted version, what do y'all think>
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This is probably due to your being on a pre-4.4.4 bootloader and/or partition table.
If you find the stock 4.4.4 SBF/FXZ, and flash only motoboot.img and gpt.bin (both using mfastboot), the FC will likely disappear.
OR, yes, you could follow your own advice flashing the FULL 4.4.4 SBF w/RSD Lite, and then subsequently re-installing Kryptonite's ROM if you want to afterwards.
Let us know...
yeah i think im just going to FXZ

xt 1053.need to4.4.4 to 4.4.3 ,prob wit downgraded security preflash validation error

Help me regarding going back to4.4.3... I have the package and everything ( rsd lite stuff) but boot loader seems updated while i did ota to 4.4.4 .. its keep saying downgraded security pre flash vvalidation error while flashing 4.4.3.
4.4.3 was silky smooth. 4.4.4 is stuttery horrible in many apps and also generally to some extent
Theoretically this should be possible right to install old boot loader and then fash 4.4.3??
How and where to get boot loader old one.??.. I mean this is the thing they do in factories no?? Before flashing a firmware...
That would remove security downgrade verification right??
Reason is 4.4.4 is horribly stuttering Feels like a cheap china mobile
Search this forum for "downgrade brick" and see what others have had happen.
Long story short: just. don't. do it.
Problem. Is while doing an it's update after downgrading . which causes different kernel and system IMG to cause problems they say.
Still wonder why no one is into what causes the security check , how to get an old boot loader into the phone ... Wat they do I manufacturing? No phone comes with any software.. They are uploaded into it after emptiness. .. So why not 4.4.3 now .. if its the bootloader that causes problems why can't we install a boot loader that will match 4.4.3 ?? ...
All the forum is full f bricked moto x when there was no 4.4.4 firmware available. Nowthey are available.. So its not much problem now as it used to be.
Pls some one look into it... No one curious enough to decode the way?? I mean is this acceptable ? That we can't match 4.4.3 in a moto x ..
4.4.4 stuttering? User error
The moto x is not a nexus device. Unlike gaining S-off on an HTC phone, unlocking the bootloader on a moto x doesn't disable its security checks.
You can't downgrade got.bin and motoboot.img, or their internal components due to the phone's security checks.
People try downgrade by skipping those, BUT too often people brick when attempting this, or taking an OTA update in this state.
When you have mismatched parts on the phone, things don't work (like the issue of going settings-> security kicking you out) and you are at risk for bricking.
KidJoe said:
The moto x is not a nexus device. Unlike gaining S-off on an HTC phone, unlocking the bootloader on a moto x doesn't disable its security checks.
You can't downgrade got.bin and motoboot.img, or their internal components due to the phone's security checks.
People try downgrade by skipping those, BUT too often people brick when attempting this, or taking an OTA update in this state.
When you have mismatched parts on the phone, things don't work (like the issue of going settings-> security kicking you out) and you are at risk for bricking.
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The problem is boot.IMG which has the kernel also has the dowbhrade security check error ... So when I falshed 4.4.3 over the 4.4.4 phone , ended up having kernel of 4.4.4 with system of 4.4.3.. ( I had to skip boot.IMG of kernel, motoboot.IMG , and got.bin)
Kernel is where interface comes...
Is there a way to flash the boot.IMG of 4.4.3 ... I would be satisfied with that... No need got.bin and motoboot.IMG flashing...
Also when I see this forum no one mention boot.IMG only motoboot and got.bin are mentioned.. Am I the only one having prob with boot.IMG flashingflashing.. If so pls tell kidjoe, iwould be happy
And AM NOT OTA OR MANUALLY UPDATIG TO LOLLIPOP IF I HAVE 4.4.3...
I HAVE OTA UPDATED 4.4.4 after having 4.4.3 system and 4.4.4 kernel .. To attain full 4.4.4 and it doesn't cause brickig .
Brickin occurs only when u update to next release it seems. 4.4.4 update is easy with the device it seems
nhizzat said:
4.4.4 stuttering? User error
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Pls help me .. Wats user error.. I mean wat u mean by my error??
govardhan87 said:
Pls help me .. Wats user error.. I mean wat u mean by my error??
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Most likely something you've modified or installed is causing the stuttering.
govardhan87 said:
The problem is boot.IMG which has the kernel also has the dowbhrade security check error ... So when I falshed 4.4.3 over the 4.4.4 phone , ended up having kernel of 4.4.4 with system of 4.4.3.. ( I had to skip boot.IMG of kernel, motoboot.IMG , and got.bin)
Kernel is where interface comes...
Is there a way to flash the boot.IMG of 4.4.3 ... I would be satisfied with that... No need got.bin and motoboot.IMG flashing...
Also when I see this forum no one mention boot.IMG only motoboot and got.bin are mentioned.. Am I the only one having prob with boot.IMG flashingflashing.. If so pls tell kidjoe, iwould be happy
And AM NOT OTA OR MANUALLY UPDATIG TO LOLLIPOP IF I HAVE 4.4.3...
I HAVE OTA UPDATED 4.4.4 after having 4.4.3 system and 4.4.4 kernel .. To attain full 4.4.4 and it doesn't cause brickig .
Brickin occurs only when u update to next release it seems. 4.4.4 update is easy with the device it seems
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Most reference only GPT.BIN and MOTOBOOT.IMG because they are the partition table, bootloader, trusted zone, etc. Those two fail with an error that stops RSDlite, and those two error when trying to flash older versions via mFastboot. After getting those errors, that is usually when people start posting their phone is bricked and asking for help.
I've seen some downgrade everything but those two (meaning, yes they did even flash boot.img) using mfastboot (latest being from the 4.4.2 and 4.4.4 dev edition roms). But again, if you get forgetful and take an OTA, or sell it to someone in that state, you could cause a brick later.
You could be able to downgrade parts without bricking, we've seen that happen... In addition, like when people on 4.4.2 downgraded this way to 4.4, we saw features not work (I mentioned the security menu earlier) if they managed to not brick.
In some cases, when in the bricked or non-booting state from attempting to downgrade, flashing the full SBF of the newest version (4.4.4) manually via mFastboot with a few extra commands was enough to recover the phone and get it working. (at least check the phone's bootloader version and flash the SBF for that bootloader or a higher/newer SBF version). On some occasions they've bricked bad enough that they've needed to follow -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/how-to-resurrecting-bricked-moto-x-t2629057 and other times nothing worked and their phone was dead.
That being said, the many many threads asking for help due to phones not booting, being bricked, etc from attempting to downgrade are why we caution people to not downgrade and why you wont get much help doing it. Its not 100% safe or fool proof. If it goes wrong you could have a lot of work on your hands or a non-usable phone. Just because it has worked for you, doesn't mean it works and others can/should try it. We've seen too many times how people have bricked. For example a while ago there was someone claiming its possible to downgrade the XT1052 without issues, it was 100% safe, he did it without failure so it must be safe. Then XT1052 people who tried it started creating threads that their phone was bricked from following his steps asking for help. The thread was closed/locked.
But its your phone, do what you want. If you advise others to downgrade, or claim its safe to downgrade, make sure you include a clear warning that there are risks!!
govardhan87 said:
Help me regarding going back to4.4.3... I have the package and everything ( rsd lite stuff) but boot loader seems updated while i did ota to 4.4.4 .. its keep saying downgraded security pre flash vvalidation error while flashing 4.4.3.
4.4.3 was silky smooth. 4.4.4 is stuttery horrible in many apps and also generally to some extent
Theoretically this should be possible right to install old boot loader and then fash 4.4.3??
How and where to get boot loader old one.??.. I mean this is the thing they do in factories no?? Before flashing a firmware...
That would remove security downgrade verification right??
Reason is 4.4.4 is horribly stuttering Feels like a cheap china mobile
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You do realize the ONLY change between 4.4.3 and 4.4.4 is the security fix for ssl right. It was less then 16 meg for the update so your issues are NOT related to 4.4.3 vs 44.4 I would look elsewhere for the cause of your issues before you completely brick your phone
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You do realize the ONLY change between 4.4.3 and 4.4.4 is the security fix for ssl right. It was less then 16 meg for the update so your issues are NOT related to 4.4.3 vs 44.4 I would look elsewhere for the cause of your issues before you completely brick your phone
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dear adm1jtg... Am not a developer in android or even a software guy. I will be unable to see these things or verify that its only security update and will not affect kernel of the os- although they said wat u said..
That's y I posted here. Thanks for replying.
Would be happy if u tell if kernel is same in 4.4.3 And 4.4.4. ( if u know)
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dear adm1jtg... Am not a developer in android or even a software guy. I will be unable to see these things or verify that its only security update and will not affect kernel of the os- although they said wat u said..
That's y I posted here. Thanks for replying.
Would be happy if u tell if kernel is same in 4.4.3 And 4.4.4. ( if u know)
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Kernel is not identical but close as far as i know as the security fix was kernel based. Ok that said instead of trying to change your stock rom i would try a custom kenrel. Which one you ask.... I am currently using zwliew. There is a thread for it in the dev area. You could also try a custom stock based rom like krypton or epsilon (also have threads in dev section).
Downgrading really shoudnt EVER be considered for any reason as you have a very good chance or permanently bricking your phone.
Agree with many here...
Even tho some say they've downgraded OK... Let's see how the next ota works out for them. Oops!
So .... Here's my 2 cents on downgrading........ DON'T !
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[Q] Lollipop to KitKat

I just got my new Moto X 2014 2 days ago. It came with KitKat installed on it. I remember that on the Moto X 2013 that downgrading caused a lot of bricks. Is this the case with the new 2014 Moto X? Also, has anybody downgraded, then taken the OTA again and it still works?
During the downgrade process would I need to flash all the parts? Or do I need to skip some?
Have you read this thread? http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x-2014/help/lollipop-to-kit-kat-t2986044
Yes I have but it didn't answer all my questions. For example if upgrading via ota will cause a brick? If it's necessary to flash all files or if they all can even be flashed.
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AGISCI said:
Yes I have but it didn't answer all my questions. For example if upgrading via ota will cause a brick? If it's necessary to flash all files or if they all can even be flashed.
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I downgraded to kitkat and took the OTA to lollipop with no issues. When downgrading, you don't really have to skip any commands. If you try to flash an old bootloader (as was the case when I downgraded to kitkat after getting the newer bootloader from the OTA, well, I think it was a newer bootloader anyways), it will just fail to flash. No harm done, at least not on my XT1095). You can skip flashing the bootloader altogether, which is what I did the first time I downgraded to kitkat, and I had no issues.
Thank you, I took the plunge and installed lollipop. I was worried about downgrading since I was not sure if everything would work or not. So far so good.
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I would like to know if the process is the same downgrading back to kitkat from lollipo 5.1???

[Q] Help downgrade to offical verizon dev from lollipop

Hey, i got the verizon dev edition with unlocked boktloader and root device i flash xt1052 rom to get the ota to 5.1
And aftet i flashed the baseband of 4.4.4 xt1060 to get my network work.
But now i want to get back to 4.4.4 of the verizon dev edition and i download tgz fille from the motorola site
And i wanted to flash it on rsd lite but i didnt have the xml fille there? So i dont know what to do now?
Ty for help
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Hey, i got the verizon dev edition with unlocked boktloader and root device i flash xt1052 rom to get the ota to 5.1
And aftet i flashed the baseband of 4.4.4 xt1060 to get my network work.
But now i want to get back to 4.4.4 of the verizon dev edition and i download tgz fille from the motorola site
And i wanted to flash it on rsd lite but i didnt have the xml fille there? So i dont know what to do now?
Ty for help
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there is a high risk of bricking your device while downgrading http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/info-warning-risks-downgrading-impacts-t3058202
It's highly risky to downgrade but if you persist just make sure your bootloader and partition table is not the one that got upgtaded with the latest 5.1 rom. If it is the latest then don't do it.
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You can downgrade completely to 4.4.4.
But don't take OTA, your phone will brick.
The safest way in my opinion is (if you want to downgrade);
- Flash entire official firmware of XT1060 to your phone.
- DON'T TAKE OTA
- Wait for full firmware of XT1060(5.1)
- Flash full firmware of XT1060(5.1)
But if you want to play with 5.1, you can try this;
In my case, I have XT1056, and I wanted to play around with 5.1, so I converted from XT1056(4.4.4) to XT1053(4.4.4), then took OTA to XT1053 (5.1).
After that I tried AOSP but my bluetooth headset had a problem with phone function, then I decided to go back to official firmware again.
Since there is no Lollipop image for XT1053 or XT1056 now, I had to flash another variants like XT1052 and XT1058, but I got no signal.
I had to downgrade to XT1056(4.4.4) and using it for a day. After that I found out that file size of fsg.mbn differ by variants, then I downloaded XT1053(5.1 OTA) to get it.
I mixed up an entire XT1052(5.1 retail EN) with fsg.mbn from XT1053(5.1 OTA) and flashed them manually. Now my XT1056 works very well (with Xposed framework).
Keep in mind that YOU DO THIS ON YOUR OWN RISK.
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You can downgrade completely to 4.4.4.
But don't take OTA, your phone will brick.
The safest way in my opinion is (if you want to downgrade);
- Flash entire official firmware of XT1060 to your phone.
- DON'T TAKE OTA
- Wait for full firmware of XT1060(5.1)
- Flash full firmware of XT1060(5.1)
But if you want to play with 5.1, you can try this;
In my case, I have XT1056, and I wanted to play around with 5.1, so I converted from XT1056(4.4.4) to XT1053(4.4.4), then took OTA to XT1053 (5.1).
After that I tried AOSP but my bluetooth headset had a problem with phone function, then I decided to go back to official firmware again.
Since there is no Lollipop image for XT1053 or XT1056 now, I had to flash another variants like XT1052 and XT1058, but I got no signal.
I had to downgrade to XT1056(4.4.4) and using it for a day. After that I found out that file size of fsg.mbn differ by variants, then I downloaded XT1053(5.1 OTA) to get it.
I mixed up an entire XT1052(5.1 retail EN) with fsg.mbn from XT1053(5.1 OTA) and flashed them manually. Now my XT1056 works very well (with Xposed framework).
Keep in mind that YOU DO THIS ON YOUR OWN RISK.
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My situation is same with you. My phone is xt1056 sprint. I converted to xt1053, and got ota to 5.1. But I don't like stock 5.1,there are some bug with graphic... I flashed and used customs Rom CM, PA,Carbon...some day. But now, I want to come back 4.4.4. Can you guide me more details?
I think if you flash complete 4.4.4 from 5.1, phone will bricked, because bootloader can not downgrade as someone said in high risk ...topic. Maybe you can flash 4.4.4 fw with edit xml to NOT flash motoboot and gpt....
Right ?
And last question, if there is a method to flash back 4.4.4, can I flash 4.4.4 xt1053 ? I don't want my phone have many bloatware sprint xt1056.
md07 said:
My situation is same with you. My phone is xt1056 sprint. I converted to xt1053, and got ota to 5.1. But I don't like stock 5.1,there are some bug with graphic... I flashed and used customs Rom CM, PA,Carbon...some day. But now, I want to come back 4.4.4. Can you guide me more details?
I think if you flash complete 4.4.4 from 5.1, phone will bricked, because bootloader can not downgrade as someone said in high risk ...topic. Maybe you can flash 4.4.4 fw with edit xml to NOT flash motoboot and gpt....
Right ?
And last question, if there is a method to flash back 4.4.4, can I flash 4.4.4 xt1053 ? I don't want my phone have many bloatware sprint xt1056.
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You can flash back to 4.4.4 of XT1053 or XT1056 as you prefer, I think their radio are compatible.
But when 5.1 comes out, DON'T TAKE OTA. You have to wait for a full firmware to upgrade your phone.
I always use a manual flash method, so I don't have to edit an xml file.
When you downgrades, you will see a warning message, just ignore them.
ong14 said:
You can flash back to 4.4.4 of XT1053 or XT1056 as you prefer, I think their radio are compatible.
But when 5.1 comes out, DON'T TAKE OTA. You have to wait for a full firmware to upgrade your phone.
I always use a manual flash method, so I don't have to edit an xml file.
When you downgrades, you will see a warning message, just ignore them.
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Do you use fastening to flash fw? And you flash all part inside fw? Include motorboat and got... ? After flash, do you make unlock network again ?
I used mfastboot to flash all CGs to my phone. But you may try to skip some CGs like KidJoe said.
Every time when you return to stock or do a hard reset, you have to do the SIM-unlock process again.
harel013 said:
Hey, i got the verizon dev edition with unlocked boktloader and root device i flash xt1052 rom to get the ota to 5.1
And aftet i flashed the baseband of 4.4.4 xt1060 to get my network work.
But now i want to get back to 4.4.4 of the verizon dev edition and i download tgz fille from the motorola site
And i wanted to flash it on rsd lite but i didnt have the xml fille there? So i dont know what to do now?
Ty for help
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Moto is no longer including the XML to flash via RSDLite, but you could make your own if needed... instead they include a BATCH file which calls a copy of Moto's fastboot to flash it.
That being said... I WARN YOU!!! You will risk bricking your phone if you attempt to downgrade. While there is a slight chance the phone will not brick, we have enough who have bricked to say it is not safe!!
Some will say... "its ok, just skip motoboot.img and gpt.bin when flashing" that isn't safe either. If you later get prompted for and take an OTA update you'll again likely brick. Further when motoboot.img and GPT.BIN are missmatched from the rest of a STOCK Moto rom we've seen "bugs" or "issues" of things no working, like speaker phone, Settings -> Security menu, etc which are not a problem when all parts of your phone are consistent.
You're best bet... wait until a full 5.1 SBF for the Verizon XT1060 is either posted to Moto's web site of Dev Edition Images, or wait until a copy leaks... however, that too many also fail *IF* the GPT.BIN and components of motoboot.img are newer or different in the build you are running compared to what is made available as the XT1060 5.1 SBF.
KidJoe said:
Moto is no longer including the XML to flash via RSDLite, but you could make your own if needed... instead they include a BATCH file which calls a copy of Moto's fastboot to flash it.
That being said... I WARN YOU!!! You will risk bricking your phone if you attempt to downgrade. While there is a slight chance the phone will not brick, we have enough who have bricked to say it is not safe!!
Some will say... "its ok, just skip motoboot.img and gpt.bin when flashing" that isn't safe either. If you later get prompted for and take an OTA update you'll again likely brick. Further when motoboot.img and GPT.BIN are missmatched from the rest of a STOCK Moto rom we've seen "bugs" or "issues" of things no working, like speaker phone, Settings -> Security menu, etc which are not a problem when all parts of your phone are consistent.
You're best bet... wait until a full 5.1 SBF for the Verizon XT1060 is either posted to Moto's web site of Dev Edition Images, or wait until a copy leaks... however, that too many also fail *IF* the GPT.BIN and components of motoboot.img are newer or different in the build you are running compared to what is made available as the XT1060 5.1 SBF.
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Yea i think i will wait for the full sbf 5.1 for verizon, i dont want to take the chance.
Thank you all for your help when the 5.1 update will come to the verizon you think?

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