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I know there was a system dump of 4.3 on t Mobile, but it was said to still be in development. Some people were thinking the moto x would get faster updates being so close to stock android. However at this point we're getting close to when the heavily customized galaxy s4 is *supposed* to get its update.
Could the major camera firmware update have delayed them on 4.3? Or are we looking at another phone that will still be several months delayed getting android updates?
From what I've seen there were 3? leaks of 4.3 engineering builds so far to date for the Moto X. In addition to the standard 4.3 features, they seem to also be updating Touchless Controls, Active Display and the Camera App. Now I saw that 4.3.1 is rolling out to the Nexus 7 LTE and I'm sure we will see it released to AOSP "soon" with a list of changes as well as 4.3.1 updates for the other Nexus devices.
What I think happened is Motorola was told that 4.3.1 would be rolling out "soon" so rather than keep working on fixing bugs in 4.3.0 that could be fixed in 4.3.1, Motorola tackled the main issues such as the camera, call quality, etc for the OTA and will resync their builds with AOSP so they can go straight to 4.3.1 for their OTA.
Now I could be totally wrong but given Motorola's previous update history, the Bionic for example went from Gingerbread straight to 4.0.4 and skipped 4.0.2 and 4.0.3, from there it went straight to 4.1.2 and skipped 4.1.1. I know Motorola is rebranding themselves right now but I guess they made a calculated decision to get the biggest issues fixed first, then release the big update which will take more testing.
I also think that because Samsung and HTC released Google Play Edition devices, they got earlier access to 4.3 than Motorola did so this would explain how they've had additional time to work on integrating their UI's into 4.3. I think Google is just playing it a bit too safe in trying to ensure no one thinks Motorola is getting prefered treatment over other companies.
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From what I've seen there were 3? leaks of 4.3 engineering builds so far to date for the Moto X. In addition to the standard 4.3 features, they seem to also be updating Touchless Controls, Active Display and the Camera App. Now I saw that 4.3.1 is rolling out to the Nexus 7 LTE and I'm sure we will see it released to AOSP "soon" with a list of changes as well as 4.3.1 updates for the other Nexus devices.
What I think happened is Motorola was told that 4.3.1 would be rolling out "soon" so rather than keep working on fixing bugs in 4.3.0 that could be fixed in 4.3.1, Motorola tackled the main issues such as the camera, call quality, etc for the OTA and will resync their builds with AOSP so they can go straight to 4.3.1 for their OTA.
Now I could be totally wrong but given Motorola's previous update history, the Bionic for example went from Gingerbread straight to 4.0.4 and skipped 4.0.2 and 4.0.3, from there it went straight to 4.1.2 and skipped 4.1.1. I know Motorola is rebranding themselves right now but I guess they made a calculated decision to get the biggest issues fixed first, then release the big update which will take more testing.
I also think that because Samsung and HTC released Google Play Edition devices, they got earlier access to 4.3 than Motorola did so this would explain how they've had additional time to work on integrating their UI's into 4.3. I think Google is just playing it a bit too safe in trying to ensure no one thinks Motorola is getting prefered treatment over other companies.
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That was my other thought. Maybe have to wait longer but be better off with 4.3.1 over 4.3
Hopefully 4.4 is quick though!
mikeosu said:
That was my other thought. Maybe have to wait longer but be better off with 4.3.1 over 4.3
Hopefully 4.4 is quick though!
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or it could be skipped over for 4.4, google does have more control over it now. I am getting my moto x tomorrow I can't wait.
Maybe the S4 having been released months in advance also has something to do with it....
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enigmaco said:
or it could be skipped over for 4.4, google does have more control over it now. I am getting my moto x tomorrow I can't wait.
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Very true. I would be ok with that if it meant an earlier update! I'm probably getting one soon with that best buy deal. Too good to pass up!
The biggest fix in 4.3 was the trim support (and SE Linux, but you won't notice that)... Moto X already has trim built in so there really isn't much rush on the 4.3 front.
I'd prefer a skip to 4.4 if that makes it a faster release.
Well done, Samsung. They said in the beginning of June that the Update will be available within June. It is now the 19th. Of July and it's not here yet. They better be updating directly to 4.4.4 soon or at least a fast Android L update when it is available.. This is the only bad side of Android: for non-Nexus users it takes literally half a year to receive a MINOR update... Am I the only one that is angry about this problem?
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Well done, Samsung. They said in the beginning of June that the Update will be available within June. It is now the 19th. Of July and it's not here yet. They better be updating directly to 4.4.4 soon or at least a fast Android L update when it is available.. This is the only bad side of Android: for non-Nexus users it takes literally half a year to receive a MINOR update... Am I the only one that is angry about this problem?
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But what's new. Samsung has newer been fast or early with updates.
They would have binned the 4.4.3 update and gone straight to 4.4.4 which makes sense really.
It shouldn't be too long now that we start seeing it roll out to the S5, but as always it's luck of the draw which region gets it first, & how long others have to wait until it reaches them which could be months.
No one really has a good track record when it comes to updates... sure sometimes some are better than others but if you want to go a non nexus device you have to deal with it
They are taking their time for sure... Sony, HTC already beat them to the punch (dunno about LG).
I only can remember the supposed document that didn't seem so real to be honest, when did Samsung publish an update schedule?
As said before in this thread, they most likely cancelled 4.4.3 to go all the way to 4.4.4 but even Sony has released that now.
i hope they will jump directly to android L
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They are taking their time for sure... Sony, HTC already beat them to the punch (dunno about LG).
I only can remember the supposed document that didn't seem so real to be honest, when did Samsung publish an update schedule?
As said before in this thread, they most likely cancelled 4.4.3 to go all the way to 4.4.4 but even Sony has released that now.
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Reason for that being that both HTC & Sony software's isn't as bloated as Touchwiz is, tbh i think this generation of Touchwiz is actually worst performance wise & looks than the last gen on the Note 3 & S4.
ixon2001 said:
Reason for that being that both HTC & Sony software's isn't as bloated as Touchwiz is, tbh i think this generation of Touchwiz is actually worst performance wise & looks than the last gen on the Note 3 & S4.
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Both Sony and HTC have a lot of code to add as well, but they are executing much better.
I suspect the delays are due to Samsung pushing a lot of devices at the same time and having limited engineering resources.
Most likely they are working on the Note 4 at the moment... and the 16 new devices they keep pushing every month.
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Well done, Samsung. They said in the beginning of June that the Update will be available within June. It is now the 19th. Of July and it's not here yet. They better be updating directly to 4.4.4 soon or at least a fast Android L update when it is available.. This is the only bad side of Android: for non-Nexus users it takes literally half a year to receive a MINOR update... Am I the only one that is angry about this problem?
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Yes, you're the only one. Do you even know what .3 and .4 updates are? They're mostly security fixes that OEMs probably fixed in their builds before Google's own Nexus factory Android.
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guetzli32 said:
Well done, Samsung. They said in the beginning of June that the Update will be available within June. It is now the 19th. Of July and it's not here yet. They better be updating directly to 4.4.4 soon or at least a fast Android L update when it is available.. This is the only bad side of Android: for non-Nexus users it takes literally half a year to receive a MINOR update... Am I the only one that is angry about this problem?
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A; we weren't promised the update at all. there was a rumour started because of a heavily cropped image
B,the minor security fixs were possibly put in the NG update we all just got
C you start the thread with a promise of discussion but the op is typical OEM slamming that ive come to expect.
D there is no D because the first 3 were so good
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As has been suggested , not much "Discussion" going on...
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I know Google didn't pull the factory image from their site, but I'm seeing posts scattered around at Google Groups where the 5.0 OTA was pulled for the 2012 N7 due to the overwhelming reports of issues.
I'm asking because my friend just snagged a new N7 at a great price. It has Jelly Bean 4.1 and I'm absolutely certain she will hate this tablet if she installs 5.0. I'm really not up to teaching her how to root, learn ADB, fastboot, etc. She lives 500 miles away or I could "fix" it myself.
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I know Google didn't pull the factory image from their site, but I'm seeing posts scattered around at Google Groups where the 5.0 OTA was pulled for the 2012 N7 due to the overwhelming reports of issues.
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I'm quite certain the OTA got pulled. I've got 2 N7 2012s. One got the 5.0 OTA and literally crawled to a halt. I decided to hold off on the other one, and about a week later the notifications about an available upgrade disappeared.
My one N7-2013 never received 5.0, but got 5.0.1 a couple days ago. 5.0.1 works well on this tablet. The 2012-model isn't so much weaker that software tasks should take 20 times longer than on the 2013-edition. I suspect there may be driver issues that cause the problems for N7-2012 and hope there will be an optimised 5.0.1 for that one too rsn.
Micromax Canvas A1 Android One smartphone receiving update to Lollipop 5.1 But Not our Nexus 4.
Not only micromax android one, Karbonn and spice are too receiving OTA 5.1 update, Cheap 1Gb ram phone getting updates and nexus the highend phone won't. I thought my phone get better support than Micromax Spice and Karbonn. But wow I am totally surprised
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Micromax Canvas A1 Android One smartphone receiving update to Lollipop 5.1 But Not our Nexus 4.
Not only micromax android one, Karbonn and spice are too receiving OTA 5.1 update, Cheap 1Gb ram phone getting updates and nexus the highend phone won't. I thought my phone get better support than Micromax Spice and Karbonn. But wow I am totally surprised
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If you had tried to search, you will find that a google employee had said that the Nexus 4 WILL get 5.1.
jer_ying_fd said:
If you had tried to search, you will find that a google employee had said that the Nexus 4 WILL get 5.1.
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But we didn't get yet, Android One get.... I think you totally missed my point.. My point is How the hell Micromax type of phones get updates before Nexus 4.
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But we didn't get yet, Android One get.... I think you totally missed my point.. My point is How the hell Micromax type of phones get updates before Nexus 4.
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Your title is misleading, won't implying that we will never get it
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But we didn't get yet, Android One get.... I think you totally missed my point.. My point is How the hell Micromax type of phones get updates before Nexus 4.
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Android One:
Retail availability: September, 2014
Nexus 4:
First released: November, 2012
Discontinued: November 1, 2013
What device do you think google priorize?
If was my decision, definitely Android One.
clusten said:
Android One:
Retail availability: September, 2014
Nexus 4:
First released: November, 2012
Discontinued: November 1, 2013
What device do you think google priorize?
If was my decision, definitely Android One.
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what about nexus 5?
Nov 2013 - Release Date
if nexus 5 receive Android One receive update, Then why not Nexus 4? Just because it release a year before ? what about nexus flagship?
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what about nexus 5?
Nov 2013 - Release Date
if nexus 5 receive Android One receive update, Then why not Nexus 4? Just because it release a year before ? what about nexus flagship?
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The gnex is only one year older than n4 but it didn't receive kitkat, so yes, just because it was released a year before.
Also, Nexus 7 2013 users still don't get 5.1
BTW, I prefer a tested bug free 5.1 update because it could be the last update Nexus 4 receive
I would be absolutely SHOCKED if we got even one more update after 5.1. I wasn't even expecting it to get that, but I think Google just wants the major bugs patched before they send it to EOL land so at least they're leaving it on a stable build.
I would be shocked if updates are stopped before it is impossible for technical reasons?!
HTC used to abandon one year old phones without technical reasons.
It cost money to keep updating so they will stop whenever they feel like it. The hardware is to a point now where it will support updates a lot longer than it used to.
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Yes but HTC is not Google. And it does not cost anything if done right. My PC is from 2007 and still gets updates. And there are much more different PCs than Nexus devices. Its all about good SW design and hardware abstraction, isn't it?
Um, the Nexus 7, which is older got it already.
Android 5.1 launched on Android One devices, not on a Nexus (Indonesian One devices shipped with 5.1 almost a month before any Nexus got it.)
The Indian devices never got 5.0; so this is straight from KitKat.
Finally, the 4 will get it. Just be patient. Even the 9 and the newer 7 haven't gotten it, so comparing it against AO is a bit of cherry-picking.
Frankly, we're damn lucky we got 5.0 .
I was 100% certain that 4.4.4. was the EOL point for the Nexus 4.
I'll get a good laugh if my N4 gets the update before my new N9 though.
this is nexus !!
you can use the big world of android rom and ubuntu and firefox os .
Dont worry .
The story is not over yet .
Hope Google not abandon Nexus 4
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Hope Google not abandon Nexus 4
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I'm afraid they inevitably will, but I'm sure the devs will take good care of it. Plus, devs often optimise kernels and roms so they are better than what Google offers.
I've contacted a mod to close this thread. It's so ridiculous some times...
https://android.googlesource.com/device/lge/mako/+/android-5.1.0_r3
Be patient people....
Further discussions here please
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-4/general/android-5-0-discussions-rumors-t2780976
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It's the birth of another sweet treat going to come to Android One in a matter of weeks. I'm sure all of you readers are excited.
Just a few heads up before you get too much enthused though...
1) Know that Google has been working to provide regular security updates over the past few months. This means there should not be a huge delay in the update schedule, unlike last year. Now Google has to serve its new customers in Indonesia, Philippines, Pakistan,Turkey,Nigeria,UK, Spain and Portugal instead of just India and Bangladesh, so its obvious that it will look after its babies.
2) Know that in order to get the Android 6 update,you have to have a free storage space of at least 10% of the system memory otherwise it won't download. Further, if you're rooted, install back the stock ROM and stock Bootloader otherwise the installation will result in an error.
Lastly, don't forget to share it when you have received the OTA.
The expected release is in mid October
Androidman720 said:
It's the birth of another sweet treat going to come to Android One in a matter of weeks. I'm sure all of you readers are excited.
Just a few heads up before you get too much enthused though...
1) Know that Google has been working to provide regular security updates over the past few months. This means there should not be a huge delay in the update schedule, unlike last year. Now Google has to serve its new customers in Indonesia, Philippines, Pakistan,Turkey,Nigeria,UK, Spain and Portugal instead of just India and Bangladesh, so its obvious that it will look after its babies.
2) Know that in order to get the Android 6 update,you have to have a free storage space of at least 10% of the system memory otherwise it won't download. Further, if you're rooted, install back the stock ROM and stock Bootloader otherwise the installation will result in an error.
Lastly, don't forget to share it when you have received the OTA.
The expected release is in mid October
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I waiting for this update since first developer preview!
But I'm a little sceptical....
You are 100% sure that first generation will get official update to 6.0?
Or we have to wait for a custom rom based on marshmallow?
Im pretty sure that the 1st gen will get 6.0 update.
coz If I'm not mistaken google says that they will support the 1st gen android one devices for 2 years.
cheeze.keyk said:
I pretty sure that the 1st gen will get 6.0 update.
coz If I'm not mistaken google says that they will support the 1st gen android one devices for 2 years.
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I know that but on some sites says that Google will support them just 18 months. That is my mainly concern
I hope initial release M not too buggy.
On the official Android.com they say it's for 2 years, till august 2016
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On the official Android.com they say it's for 2 years, till august 2016
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On android.com says "up to 2 years"
Anyway fingers crossed!
I hope that google will release it soon
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On the official Android.com they say it's for 2 years, till august 2016
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But. What the countries where android one just got released this year even 1st generation they will be getting updates till 2017 na?
Nexus factory images are up. I don't know when we will get the ota.
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Earlier post from Dave Burke, VP of Engineering, Android mentioned in the blog post "Starting next week, Android 6.0 Marshmallow will begin rolling out to supported Nexus devices around the world, including Nexus 5, Nexus 6, Nexus 7 (2013), Nexus 9, Nexus Player, and Android One"
http://android-developers.blogspot.in/2015/09/android-marshmallow-ready-for-devices.html
Now, they have updated and mentioned only for Nexus devices. Not sure when we will receive it now.
http://officialandroid.blogspot.in/2015/10/get-ready-for-sweet-taste-of-android-60.html
Androidman720 said:
On the official Android.com they say it's for 2 years, till august 2016
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naturist said:
Earlier post from Dave Burke, VP of Engineering, Android mentioned in the blog post "Starting next week, Android 6.0 Marshmallow will begin rolling out to supported Nexus devices around the world, including Nexus 5, Nexus 6, Nexus 7 (2013), Nexus 9, Nexus Player, and Android One"
http://android-developers.blogspot.in/2015/09/android-marshmallow-ready-for-devices.html
Now, they have updated and mentioned only for Nexus devices. Not sure when we will receive it now.
http://officialandroid.blogspot.in/2015/10/get-ready-for-sweet-taste-of-android-60.html
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Don't worry kernel source has released for marshmallow for android one we will for sure see android M sooner than you think n may be custom ROM will roll out quick too
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Now Google has to serve its new customers in... UK, Spain and Portugal...
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By 'UK', are you referring to the Karbonn Sparkle V that is available through Amazon UK and 7DayShop? BQ deliver their 2GB RAM M.5 to the UK but it is not an Android One device - the 1GB RAM A4.5, which is based on the M4.5 but with a five-year guarantee taking the place of the extra gigabyte of RAM - only delivers to Spain and Portugal.
Congratulations guys!!
Android One has started receiving marshmallow....
www.androidauthority.com/android-one-marshmallow-update-647254/