Hi all,
after using the touchpad for couple of days, I sem to mis the following functions:
Access to my Android folders from WebOs, I understand that it got a WebOs, but when there is 32GB on the touchpad or 16GB for that matter a file explorer would prove handy.
The other issue I miss in both WebOs and Android is the USB host, there is a youtube video explaining that the touchpad does not have enough power to connect a USB memory or keybord or USB anything! and shows a work around, but not so practical.
The btouchpad got a 6800 mA battery, while my Galaxy S II got 1650 mA battery, yet my SGSII phone can host quite well! not to mention other cheap chinese tablets.
Is it a software issue that could be updated?
Well I'm pretty sure with the webOS file manager you can see the same internal SD as long as its not hidden. I don't know what you mean by android files.
The thing about the USB host is firstly the TouchPad doesn't have a full sized USB port so most peripherals would be impossible or impractical. That would only make sense for the producers to not give the voltage overhead to achieve some crazy mess of adapters and wires in a machine that was meant to be wholly wireless and cloud based. HP gave you a 50GB box account so you wouldn't need a USB flash drive and Bluetooth so you van get their Bluetooth keyboards and mice.
Samsung Galaxy Captivate ICS | HP TouchPad CM Xron B2.2
Thanks for the reply,
to browse the folders in webOS(I mean all the folders, even those created by android, downloaded in Android) it took I don't know what to call it but it is the equivelant of rooting or jil breaking.
Did not expepriment yet with USB host.
You must have been in a situation where you meet somebody somewhere has couple of gigs files in a USB memory to transfer to you, all that is around you is your phone or tablet , easiest way is to transfer it right there and then.
Not something that you wil need everyday , but very very handy to have when you need it, even cheap chinese tablets can do it, many phones can do it, Archos does it from day one. it is alot more common and main stream than the way you describe it.
thanks again for your input
iamsamsamiam said:
Well I'm pretty sure with the webOS file manager you can see the same internal SD as long as its not hidden. I don't know what you mean by android files.
The thing about the USB host is firstly the TouchPad doesn't have a full sized USB port so most peripherals would be impossible or impractical. That would only make sense for the producers to not give the voltage overhead to achieve some crazy mess of adapters and wires in a machine that was meant to be wholly wireless and cloud based. HP gave you a 50GB box account so you wouldn't need a USB flash drive and Bluetooth so you van get their Bluetooth keyboards and mice.
Samsung Galaxy Captivate ICS | HP TouchPad CM Xron B2.2
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Usb host mode is only available with a powered usb hub and a "Y" cable as the micro usb port on the TP does not supply enough power to use without the powered hub. For file transfers between devices I would recommend some of the excellent wifi transfer programs.
As for accessing android files within WebOS, all you need is internalz Pro file manager. WebOS does not require any sort of "Jailbreaking" to access files. Install preware on the webOS side and tweek to your hearts content.
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this is the cleanest way::
http://www.amazon.com/Solar-Powered-Battery-Charger-Adapter/dp/B006DVMW92
and this::
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/270823070399?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
ebay link is OTG cable.. and it is needed
amkaos said:
this is the cleanest way::
http://www.amazon.com/Solar-Powered-Battery-Charger-Adapter/dp/B006DVMW92
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Are you sure? Did you use this? Because it looks like this thing have 160ma battery, which is simply a joke.
OP, there is still a chance that self-powered Host is possible, but it's not guaranteed and it's not the first priority for devs.
dundroid wrote: "The other issue I miss in both WebOs and Android is the USB host, there is a youtube video explaining that the touchpad does not have enough power to connect a USB memory or keybord or USB anything! and shows a work around, but not so practical."
It depends on your needs and maybe other options do the same or even better than a USB connection.
in case you need quick access to the Touchpad have a look at Airdroid or some ftp-server (e.g. swift-ftp).
It is very easy and comfortable with these apps.
Unrealwolf said:
Are you sure? Did you use this? Because it looks like this thing have 160ma battery, which is simply a joke.
OP, there is still a chance that self-powered Host is possible, but it's not guaranteed and it's not the first priority for devs.
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what i posted is from webosnation.. a user named wheel nuts (i think)
condensed a loong thread that came up w/ this solution.
ppl are using w/ success..
the only thing necessary is manual mounting and unmount from xecutah
http://forums.webosnation.com/hp-to...ter-touchpad-connect-thumb-drive-kbd-etc.html
So I've been searching for a while, but I haven't really found anything. So far it seems like hardly anyone else actually has this problem, or I'm just a complete idiot. So if this matter has already been resolved, I would be very thankful if you could point me in the right direction.
Whenever I connect my AT&T Samsung Captivate (FireFly 3.0) to my computer (on both my Windows XP Pro and 7 Ultimate partitions), everything is hunky dory and everything runs normal and my phone charges. The instant that I turn on USB Storage in my phone, if I open up "My Computer", it just sits there and the green bar at the top (Windows 7) goes by very slowly until it almost reaches the end, and then just sits there indefinitely. I can't open up any other drives on my computer, including my phone's drive. I also can't eject the phone "safely". I have the drivers installed, and everything SHOULD work. Even if I turn off USB Storage, my computer still won't respond in those aspects, until I unplug the phone from my computer, and then everything just goes back to normal. In Windows XP the same thing happens, there's just no little progress bar telling me that nothing is happening, Windows Explorer (explorer.exe) just freezes and I must unplug the phone and restart the process to get my computer working again. If I plug the phone into my netbook running Ubuntu 10.04, I can open my phone's drives, but transfer speeds are still extremely slow.
I'm thinking it's something with the filesystem, and requires a reformat, but I'm not sure and I want to be entirely sure of it until I attempt pulling everything off of my phone and formatting and rerooting and reflashing FireFly.
If it matters, my computer's hardware is as follows:
AMD FX-4100 @ 4.15Ghz
8GB DDR3-1333 GSkill Ripjaw RAM
Asus GTX 460 768MB
Asus M5A97 Motherboard
Seagate Barracuda 1TB 7200RPM
Western Digital Green 500GB 5400RPM
Many thanks in advance for your time, I really hope I can get this figured out.
-Alex
I think it's not a problem with your pc. If so when you are connect it to ubuntu it should work. So it should be a matter of your captivate. Take a full backup and format it. Or try different rom and see.
I have a captivate with stock rom and it works perfectly with pc.
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Hi everyone,
I've just bought a brand new X98 Plus (A6C7), and installed mirek's rom V3 without repartitioning.
However, somehow I've lost OTG....can't specify how or when (just know that when i got the tablet it worked).
Whenever i connect the OTG cable it does not power-up anything. I've tried mouse, flash drive, keyboard, both on Windows and Android...and the neither of them powered up (mouse didn't even light the laser).
Just to clear things, I've tested the keyboard, mouse and flash with a PC, all OK. Tested the OTG cable with the same mouse on a different android and it worked just fine.
I can charge the device, connect it to laptop (after noticing this, I was still able to a fresh install of android just in case it was something to do with the flash)...so it does not look like the connector is broken.
Anyone can give me a help with this?
Thanks
Hello guys, I'm planning to build my first carputer. 2 years ago I have modified a tablet, Asus zenpad 8, very similar to Nexus 7 in my opinion. Now I want something more.
What I want:
Fully automated pc that works exactly like an android head unit but much better and more flexibility when it comes to external devices like an external DAC with optical output. Actually this is the main reason for not buying an android head unit, didn't find one that works very well with an external DAC. Some other things that I want from this carputer: the compatibility with steering wheel controls, backup camera, fm or even DAB radio, gps, phone calls( via bluetooth), 4G internet and so on. Many of those things are pretty simple to integrate, will talk about them later.
The components:
1. The pc - didn't think about it yet because there are loads of mini pc on the market for good prices. The only problem I'm thinking is the start up on ignition. First I wanted to go for a Remix mini pc but I don't know how could I make it start on ignition and after that automatically play the last song. If I would go for a normal PC, I found a smart PSU which has the possibility of ignition start and stop and puts the computer in sleep mode. That way I will avoid the waiting time for the boot, in fact the computer will be permanently turned on. The only problem I can think of, is the compatibility of this PSU with the android Remix OS. Is it possible?
I've tested the Remix OS and I like it, very quiq, easy to use in car with a touch screen, support all the external devices( wifi, 4g, fm and DAB, external DAC with optical output) and the launcher can be changed. I know I can opt for Windows OS and that way I will be sure that the PSU works but in my opinion windows is not so "mobile friendly", not so easy to use in car.
2. The screen: not so many to talk about, found on ebay some 9" tft touch screens, very good resolution, hdmi connectivity and USB for touch. The best thing with these screens is the AV2 input for the backup camera. The screen automatically switch to this input, has guidance lines, and this way I solved the problem with the camera. And also is quite cheap.
3. Steering wheel controls. Found on ebay the Joycon steering wheel adapter that is compatible with Android. I just have to make an initial configuration and that's it, nothing more, simply works through USB.
4. The other external devices: all of them can be found on ebay for good prices. The only thing that worries me is the bluetooth compatibility. I remember when I built that Asus zenpad tablet, I couldn't find a solution for this. Now my question is, what type of bluetooth adapter should I buy and how do I integrate this in the carputer. And I'm not talking about physical connection, I think I will need some kind of software, app, that knows what to do with this bluetooth adapter.
So, in the end, I would need some help regarding the ignition start, just the hardware part of it, all the other automatic things (launch the app and play the song) can be made with tasker very easy. Also I would need some help with the bluetooth phone calls.
Hope I didn't miss any important thing and I will appreciate any help. Thanks.
yoiedi said:
Hello guys, I'm planning to build my first carputer. 2 years ago I have modified a tablet, Asus zenpad 8, very similar to Nexus 7 in my opinion. Now I want something more.
What I want:
Fully automated pc that works exactly like an android head unit but much better and more flexibility when it comes to external devices like an external DAC with optical output. Actually this is the main reason for not buying an android head unit, didn't find one that works very well with an external DAC. Some other things that I want from this carputer: the compatibility with steering wheel controls, backup camera, fm or even DAB radio, gps, phone calls( via bluetooth), 4G internet and so on. Many of those things are pretty simple to integrate, will talk about them later.
The components:
1. The pc - didn't think about it yet because there are loads of mini pc on the market for good prices. The only problem I'm thinking is the start up on ignition. First I wanted to go for a Remix mini pc but I don't know how could I make it start on ignition and after that automatically play the last song. If I would go for a normal PC, I found a smart PSU which has the possibility of ignition start and stop and puts the computer in sleep mode. That way I will avoid the waiting time for the boot, in fact the computer will be permanently turned on. The only problem I can think of, is the compatibility of this PSU with the android Remix OS. Is it possible?
I've tested the Remix OS and I like it, very quiq, easy to use in car with a touch screen, support all the external devices( wifi, 4g, fm and DAB, external DAC with optical output) and the launcher can be changed. I know I can opt for Windows OS and that way I will be sure that the PSU works but in my opinion windows is not so "mobile friendly", not so easy to use in car.
2. The screen: not so many to talk about, found on ebay some 9" tft touch screens, very good resolution, hdmi connectivity and USB for touch. The best thing with these screens is the AV2 input for the backup camera. The screen automatically switch to this input, has guidance lines, and this way I solved the problem with the camera. And also is quite cheap.
3. Steering wheel controls. Found on ebay the Joycon steering wheel adapter that is compatible with Android. I just have to make an initial configuration and that's it, nothing more, simply works through USB.
4. The other external devices: all of them can be found on ebay for good prices. The only thing that worries me is the bluetooth compatibility. I remember when I built that Asus zenpad tablet, I couldn't find a solution for this. Now my question is, what type of bluetooth adapter should I buy and how do I integrate this in the carputer. And I'm not talking about physical connection, I think I will need some kind of software, app, that knows what to do with this bluetooth adapter.
So, in the end, I would need some help regarding the ignition start, just the hardware part of it, all the other automatic things (launch the app and play the song) can be made with tasker very easy. Also I would need some help with the bluetooth phone calls.
Hope I didn't miss any important thing and I will appreciate any help. Thanks.
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Have you thought about using a rock 64 single board computer like a Raspberry Pi that Android is really supported something like that could work really well as it has gpio outputs for various functions USB inputs for audio dacs and DAB radio and can work with touch screens or even projectors for heads up.
The truth is I know nothing about raspberry pi, heard about them but nothing more. Can you please explain a bit more? Is it possible to make it automatically turn on/off on ignition? How? Apparently that's the hardest part of the job. I've read on the internet that Remix OS doesn't work very well with stand-by function and if I'll make it to shut down completely, I'm afraid that will take too long to boot back. I was thinking about Remix mini pc and a controller that simulates pressing of the on/off button simultaneously with the ignition but it has to be tested.
So, quickly searched on google about raspberry pi and banana pi possibilities, there are some power supplies for in car use, basically they simulate a shut down from the button with a delay. That looks very good, very easy to do and also very cheap. But, how fast can boot a raspberry or banana pi running Remix OS? Does anyone know?
yoiedi said:
The truth is I know nothing about raspberry pi, heard about them but nothing more. Can you please explain a bit more? Is it possible to make it automatically turn on/off on ignition? How? Apparently that's the hardest part of the job. I've read on the internet that Remix OS doesn't work very well with stand-by function and if I'll make it to shut down completely, I'm afraid that will take too long to boot back. I was thinking about Remix mini pc and a controller that simulates pressing of the on/off button simultaneously with the ignition but it has to be tested.
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To make it turn off and on with the ignition, just plug it into a 12v line that is powered when ignition is on. Generally the 12v line to your head unit fits that criteria. If you want constant power to keep the device in standby mode, you can connect a relay to an a wire that is powered when the car is powered, then use the relay to short the pins of the standby button.
For boot time, you can achieve quite a bit of improvement by getting the fastest sdcard you can buy.
Thanks for advice. I've searched on youtube how android works with raspberry pi and in my opinion they don't do it very well, I mean it struggles even on youtube playing videos. So, I bought an ssd hdd, 32gb and made some tests on my pc. Found a version of android 7 special made for in car use and I'm quite happy with it until now. This android has a "special" feature, when the power button is pressed the pc shut down without displaying any confirmation message on screen. That means it will work perfectly with an intelligent power supply like m2-atx, m3-atx etc. In the next few days I'll get a new pc, micro atx mainboard so I'll begin the tests on that. Until now I've got a boot time around 30-40 seconds. Is not a bad time but I'll try to remove the unnecessary apps from startup and see what happens then. I'll post some pictures or even videos when I'll have good results. Any advice is welcome. Thanks.
yoiedi said:
Thanks for advice. I've searched on youtube how android works with raspberry pi and in my opinion they don't do it very well, I mean it struggles even on youtube playing videos. So, I bought an ssd hdd, 32gb and made some tests on my pc. Found a version of android 7 special made for in car use and I'm quite happy with it until now. This android has a "special" feature, when the power button is pressed the pc shut down without displaying any confirmation message on screen. That means it will work perfectly with an intelligent power supply like m2-atx, m3-atx etc. In the next few days I'll get a new pc, micro atx mainboard so I'll begin the tests on that. Until now I've got a boot time around 30-40 seconds. Is not a bad time but I'll try to remove the unnecessary apps from startup and see what happens then. I'll post some pictures or even videos when I'll have good results. Any advice is welcome. Thanks.
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Check these out http://www.hardkernel.com/main/main.php
yoiedi said:
Thanks for advice. I've searched on youtube how android works with raspberry pi and in my opinion they don't do it very well, I mean it struggles even on youtube playing videos. So, I bought an ssd hdd, 32gb and made some tests on my pc. Found a version of android 7 special made for in car use and I'm quite happy with it until now. This android has a "special" feature, when the power button is pressed the pc shut down without displaying any confirmation message on screen. That means it will work perfectly with an intelligent power supply like m2-atx, m3-atx etc. In the next few days I'll get a new pc, micro atx mainboard so I'll begin the tests on that. Until now I've got a boot time around 30-40 seconds. Is not a bad time but I'll try to remove the unnecessary apps from startup and see what happens then. I'll post some pictures or even videos when I'll have good results. Any advice is welcome. Thanks.
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Why don't you get an android head unit?
gtxaspec said:
Why don't you get an android head unit?
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I think you didn't read, I couldn't find any that works with an external sound card(DAC). My audio system is quite expensive, made for sound quality, and of course I want the head unit to be as good as possible. An external sound card with optical output I think is the best you can get.
Google search "raspberry pi alternative" theres lots of these little gadgets now adays, raspberry pi 3B is one of the most popular ( and cheapest) but there are more out there that are more powerful & better hardware.. The ASUS Tinkerboard is becoming popular as well I think I may be getting one for a streaming machine.
I've already purchased the PC and ordered the PSU. The price for all those components(+ a 30gb ssd) was under 100£ so not very expensive. Why I went for a pc instead of a single board pc? I don't know, maybe because I have no previous experience with them. Yes is true that is way much bigger than a raspberry alternative and the power consumption as well but I don't mind, maybe in the future when I'll get bored again I will try one of those pc's.
So, I've tried to install the Android X86 64bit (there is one version on internet with a patch that removes the confirmation message when you want to shut it down) on this pc with no success, all I've got was a black screen or a continuous reboot. Found out that Android X86 64bit is not so friendly with AMD cpu's. Should've search for that before buying it. Anyway, tried the 32bit version so that one works very well but I didn't find any with that patch installed. How can I remove that confirmation message when the power button is pressed?
Thanks.
first tests, quite happy with it, still lot of work to do.
https://youtu.be/lNJmRjXG81A
Odroid C2 with android + kodi
Hey guys, I have bought a raspberry pi 4 about 2-3 weeks ago and I have tried it out today, but I saw that my video has no output whatsoever. I have tried flashing a different OS to my microSD card, which did work on my Raspberry Pi zero W, I have tried putting my microHDMI and HDMI cable into the other slot and I have tried removing the microSD card, which made the green light blink 20 times, but otherwise to no avail. The red LED does go on and the green one blinks shortly. I have an LED backlit keyboard and mouse that always shine when connected and they didn't turn on, meaning my microHDMI to HDMI adapter or HDMI cable isn't just broken. I also haven't touched the silver capacitor, I have just held it either by the edges of the board or the USB ports.
I have looked this problem up and tried every solution there was (for example, the forum of raspberry pi had a lot of solutions, none of them worked) but to no avail either.
Please help me fix this situation and/or help me understand what is going on
Thanks in advance!
Replace SD card or Try USB
DB05_Luc said:
Hey guys, I have bought a raspberry pi 4 about 2-3 weeks ago and I have tried it out today, but I saw that my video has no output whatsoever. I have tried flashing a different OS to my microSD card, which did work on my Raspberry Pi zero W, I have tried putting my microHDMI and HDMI cable into the other slot and I have tried removing the microSD card, which made the green light blink 20 times, but otherwise to no avail. The red LED does go on and the green one blinks shortly. I have an LED backlit keyboard and mouse that always shine when connected and they didn't turn on, meaning my microHDMI to HDMI adapter or HDMI cable isn't just broken. I also haven't touched the silver capacitor, I have just held it either by the edges of the board or the USB ports.
I have looked this problem up and tried every solution there was (for example, the forum of raspberry pi had a lot of solutions, none of them worked) but to no avail either.
Please help me fix this situation and/or help me understand what is going on
Thanks in advance!
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There are very few OS are available which works on Pi 4 most of them have not developed OS for Pi 4. So before downloading any OS look for raspberry pi 4 support if not it wont work for Pi 4 even OS with support upto Pi 3 + will not work for Pi4.
Red light stayed still and green one keeps blinking means that Pi is not able to detect valid os or not able to detect the SD card. You might be using the older versions of Raspbian or Ubuntu-mate or other os but those are not compatible with Pi4 those are compatible only up to Pi3+ . which means if the OS support is written for Pi3+ then it only works for pi till model 3+ not for pi 4.
So, the first option would be flashing new rasbian OS or Ubuntu Core Ubuntu Server only(at the time of posting this no Pi 4 support was available for other os like ubuntu-mate or android etc).
and if still problem exists then change the SD card(not necessary, as you're saying that its working on pi zero means sd card is working).
Third solution would be, instead of making SD card flash OS in USB stick and boot from that.