Battery drain going downhill - Moto X Q&A

I've had my moto x about a month.. and recently noticed the battery drain going downhill.. while using it I've noticed losing a percent about every 2.3 minutes verse 3+ minutes... works out to a loss of an hour or so from full charge. GPS off and brightness set to lowest setting, haven't changed anything that would cause the drain to increase, but I leave it on a charger when using it as a hotspot.. and the charger is my nexus 7 charger not the moto charger.. but this never caused battery problems with my razr m.

More things installed and running I bet is all. You're talking a small difference really.
But without screen shots from gsam or something useful (so not stock battery screen ).... You'll get only wild guesses from people.

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Battery life and usage..

I'm having like 13hours to 14hours of battery life..Running stock ota 2.3.3..is it normal for such a battery life?(when my phone is fully charged right after I plugged out the charger,my battery drop to 94% to 96%is it normal too?kindly advice..thanks..
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My battery indicator also drops from 100% to 96% a few seconds after i take out the charger. But after 2 days i stille have about 15% battery left.
infatality said:
I'm having like 13hours to 14hours of battery life..Running stock ota 2.3.3..is it normal for such a battery life?(when my phone is fully charged right after I plugged out the charger,my battery drop to 94% to 96%is it normal too?kindly advice..thanks..
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My battery life increased after upgrading to gingerbread. I can usually go through the day (15 hours) with 3g always on, twitter and fb sync on, with light gaming and surfing of the web, 75% brightness.
My record was 2 days 9 hours with 0% brightness, no 3g, only wifi, no gaming, twitter and fb sync on.
For your percentage problem, you can try draining your battery, then when the phone shuts down, hold the power button to switch it on again. Start up an intensive app like a game to further drain the power. Do this until the phone does not start up (no bootscreen), then plug into the charger and charge overnight. DO NOT turn the phone on during the charge. When you turn on your phone after the overnight charge, it should read 100%
I am not too sure what triggers this, but its likely due to battery memory or something, although this should not be happening for lithium batteries. Maybe its a software fault. Do this every month or so to hit that 100% indicator. It is not advisable to do this all the time as draining the battery completely MAY damage the battery over time. Cheers!
How did you manage to get pass 2days of usage?
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Hey,
I'm also having the same issue. Off the charger, BANG! 96% or so, sometimes more. My phone will be at 90% after like 3 texts. Its only had 5 charges mind you, I know there's a "conditioning" time but still, is this normal? I can almost say a text is a percent...my 3gs had more batt life after 1yr... now that's saying something...haha
I can almost watch it drain with the screen on...like 60 secs is a percent or 2...not cool...
Maybe I can do the "Desire Battery Calibration" procedure after a few more full charges...might make a diff...what do you guys think? I may be jumping the gun here...
Thanks in advance.
I remember someone said modern phones are designed not to keep on charging after reaching 100% and resume only after dropping to certain level, maybe 9x%. That could be the reason why I see different percentage left every day I unplug the phone in the morning. But my last Hero always show 100%.
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itandy said:
I remember someone said modern phones are designed not to keep on charging after reaching 100% and resume only after dropping to certain level, maybe 9x%. That could be the reason why I see different percentage left every day I unplug the phone in the morning. But my last Hero always show 100%.
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That sounds right, because it drops from 100% to 96% after a few seconds, and its direct from 100 to 96.
But if you put the charger back it taks a couple of minuts to get from 96% to 99% and about 10 minuts to go from 99% to 100%
As far as i have noticed, this was the issue with X100 too after 2.1 update-
Once connected to the wall socket, the phone charges to 100% and starts dropping.
it does not charge again unless you reconnect the charger.
till the time it is connected, it will display as 100% but once you remove it drops to how much ever time has been spent since it reached 100%.
why that happens, i really don't know.
Ideally the phone should continue charging if the level is below 100. anyways....
about the battery backup, i think 13-15 hours is quite good for a phone with this display and capabilities.
with 3g, a little gaming, surfing, chatting etc. this should really do.
in fact, post the 2.3.3 update, the battery life has definitely increased.
letmedanz said:
As far as i have noticed, this was the issue with X100 too after 2.1 update-
Once connected to the wall socket, the phone charges to 100% and starts dropping.
it does not charge again unless you reconnect the charger.
till the time it is connected, it will display as 100% but once you remove it drops to how much ever time has been spent since it reached 100%.
why that happens, i really don't know.
Ideally the phone should continue charging if the level is below 100. anyways....
about the battery backup, i think 13-15 hours is quite good for a phone with this display and capabilities.
with 3g, a little gaming, surfing, chatting etc. this should really do.
in fact, post the 2.3.3 update, the battery life has definitely increased.
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So you think that having a 13hrs ++ battery life is good enough?More advice please..thanks..
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I am on a VzW Inc2 w/ Froyo so not sure how applicable any of this is for you guys...but anyway....
My battery life is fantastic. I too see the 100% down to whatever after unplugging - I am pretty sure this is like others have said; once it reaches 100% during charging it stops charging and does not start again until you unplug and it re-plug it in. I know in my case charging from dead to 100% only takes like 3 or 4 hours. So if you are plugging your phone in when you go to bed it is probably hitting 100% after 3-4 hours and then the rest of the night it is draining down...
I have found JuiceDefender Ultimate and JuicePlotter to be huge helps to me in decreasing battery drain (JD) and understanding what uses the battery (JP).
Also just going into settings, About Phone, Battery, Battery use - this helps understand what is using it.
*Note: JuiceDefender Ultimate can create more problems than good if you are not willing to take the time to learn/set it up.
Prior to using JD and JP I would generally make it through the day, sometimes have a bit of power left over. After using these I always make it through the day, and sometimes through 2 days.
But let's not kid anyone - what JD does you CAN do manually...but more than likely wont or will forget. So for anyone that doesnt want to use JD, do you leave your WiFi on all the time, or do you switch it on/off? Leaving it on all the time drains battery. When WiFi is available, do you use it? I have found WiFi on this phone to use a lot less battery than 3G.
Probably my favorite function of JD I have it disable 3G and WiFi when the screen is off (for getting emails, updates, etc... you can set a schedule where it turns it back on during intervals or whatever).
Also I like the WiFi Location setting - you can teach it where you use WiFi and it will automatically turn WiFi on/off based on your location.
Anyway - my guess is if you are having low battery life, either you are using the device a lot more than you think (voice calls use a lot of battery), you have things syncing too often, or you are leaving radios/etc... on all the time that do not need to be on.
I tried to take the charger out at the same time the battery was on 100% and the LCD light went green.
Then the battery stayed at 100% for about 11 minuts and then went down to 99%.
After 3 1/2 houres the battery is at 95%!!!!!!!!
Bagground Data is enabled.
3G is active.
I have mail check every 15 minuts.
Screen brightnes at 40%
Weather update every 1 houre.
I don't use Facebook, Twitter, Stcoks and News.
I don't understand the battery in my IncS...
You guys know that these batteries don't have memory right? So when you charge doesn't matter, your phone just thinks there is that percentage of battery, do a full drain once and then it should back on track. Also, these batteries never get charged to 100%, its a safety precaution or something of that sort. They hover around 94-96% which is why the phone drops down to that area in what seems like a short amount of time. The fact that the phone says 100% when you unplug it is for effect. I used to always think I had battery problems, just stop being so worried about the battery and you'll notice an improvement. Hope this helped.
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Also draining them completely flat, as in device won't power on, is the worst thing you can do to them
It sort of kills off a little of the capacity, every time you do it
So to the bloke that recommended it, no it does more damage than good
Rellikzephyr
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After 17 houres battery is down from 100% to 84%.
jkolner said:
After 17 houres battery is down from 100% to 84%.
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That's unreal...do you even use the phone?
Rellikzephyr
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jkolner said:
After 17 houres battery is down from 100% to 84%.
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What a joke!! Thats impossible!
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I'm finding turning to GSM only helps massively. I mean, so it should but I was hoping I didn't have to do this all the time, like I had to with my 3GS... And its a pain in the butt having to change it.
Still cant find a widget that will do it for me...not mobile data, ACTUAL WCDMA-GSM and back...
On the side, if anyone knows of one, please tell! haha
Thanks
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What a joke!! Thats impossible!
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I tell you is true, and i don't understand i either!!!
Most of the 17 houres the phone was only in standby and i only read mail twice.
I guess its just a fantastic ROM that Mike1986 has made with no Sense ;-)
I can get a day and a half out of my IncS with heavy use on a pretty regular basis. Set brightness to automatic, switch off unnecessary auto updates, GPS, bluetooth, and keep volume down or off in games. My screen timeout is 1 min (reduce for longer battery life), and I have always on internet switched off. I generally leave my Wi-Fi on a lot by mistake but don't find this to affect things too much really.
You will get 96% a lot after a charge as it is bad for your battery to stay plugged in when it's fully charged, so the s/w on HTC phone switch the charge off for a little while so it runs down a little and back up again. I had Hero before and that did this as well.
juice defender ultimate is excellent in my experience.
i had it set to switch on data every 5mins for 15secs to receive notifications and do updates (i have quite lot syncing - twitter, fb, sky news widgets x2, weather) and i would sometimes have gotten 30 hours out of the phone (ie. i wouldnt have charged it 2 nights in a row sometimes), but always easily 1 full day.
im getting sick of having to use JD though, because i figured something HAD to be wrong as my battery would drain in maybe 5-8 hours without JD which I just dont think is good enough and so could not be how its meant to be.
i then read about some people having problems with cyanogen rom battery drain, and that if you switch off android market notifications, it solves it.
so i tried it, charged my phone to 99% again and im now at 82% after 5 hours 10mins, which means if i keep using the phone at this rate, ill make it 25 hours - which is more than good enough for me. (~and i still have all the same stuff syncing as before, except market notifications~)
also i have wifi set to never sleep, so its always on. (its my ideal that everything that you buy the phone for should be able to be kept on 24/7, eg data, gps etc always on - so i keep them like that. bluetooth i dont use though - if i can make it through the day on a charge with decent use, im happy)
try it.
im calling BS on jkolner btw - pics or it didnt happen

Usual battery drain

Hi,
So I bought an Anker 1800mah battery about two months ago, thought that would improve battery life.
Thing is, even though I own the I9000 a very long time, I don't know how battery life should be.
So my question is...
For example, if I have data and GPS on and screen on, is it normal that I get 1% drain every 1.5-2 minutes?
Using ICS CM9.
TheeWolf said:
Hi,
So I bought an Anker 1800mah battery about two months ago, thought that would improve battery life.
Thing is, even though I own the I9000 a very long time, I don't know how battery life should be.
So my question is...
For example, if I have data and GPS on and screen on, is it normal that I get 1% drain every 1.5-2 minutes?
Using ICS CM9.
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did you try your old battery for comparison ?
maybe its the battery and not the phone
btw what rom are you running on?
TheeWolf said:
Hi,
So I bought an Anker 1800mah battery about two months ago, thought that would improve battery life.
Thing is, even though I own the I9000 a very long time, I don't know how battery life should be.
So my question is...
For example, if I have data and GPS on and screen on, is it normal that I get 1% drain every 1.5-2 minutes?
Using ICS CM9.
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Turn gps off and set brightness to around 20%. You should then lose 1% roughly every 3:30 - 4:00 minutes.
Weird I lose 1% every 10 min sometimes more
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Hi all,
First, from what I remember, my old battery acted somewhat the same. Also, I used it for a year and a half, and have totally destroyed it because of all the calibrations. By a calibration I mean draining the battery to 0%, charging to 100%, doing it about 3-4 times... Only later I have learned that it is not healthy to the battery to do that so many times. That's why I only did this 3 times with my new battery (Manufacturer instructions).
Now, thing is, I gave the example with the data and GPS on and screen on because I used GPS for navigations a lot of times. So, I can't turn off GPS. About the brightness, its set to automatic all the time, so I see no reason to modify it myself.
I'm currently using CM9 Blueberry edition but I'm planning to change to JB in a few days. Even though I doubt it, any chance battery life will improve with JB?
Latrop, with the same settings? Having data + GPS + screen on all the time (10 min)? Are you sure?
Mine did not sure bout yours
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Battery life drops from around 40% to 15% super quickly for no reason

I got a full stock N7 16GB 4.2 OTA which I'm not planning to root or flash (that's what my One X is for =P).
I noticed that quite often if I leave my N7 for a night with about 40% battery life, in the morning it will fully shut down with about 14% battery life remaining. Checking battery usage I see a sharp, almost vertical drop. Something's destroying battery when it gets about half way.
Anybody else had this issue?
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Try and fully discharge and charge it a couple of times. The battery may be poorly calibrated. U can use a battery drainer if you are impatient. https://play.google.com/store/search?q=battery+drainer&c=apps
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I got a full stock N7 16GB 4.2 OTA which I'm not planning to root or flash (that's what my One X is for =P).
I noticed that quite often if I leave my N7 for a night with about 40% battery life, in the morning it will fully shut down with about 14% battery life remaining. Checking battery usage I see a sharp, almost vertical drop. Something's destroying battery when it gets about half way.
Anybody else had this issue?
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I don't know which update it was put in but it seems Google have added something that shuts down the N7 automatically at 20% to save the battery. I don't know if this is for every unit or not but it's been doing it for me and a few friends who have them too. I guess this is to save the battery as it can affect the recharging efficiency and the battery will die faster than normal if you allow it to drain further.
From your picture it looks like it's doing as it should, shutting down at about 20%, and then guestimating the battery stats, which fools the reading. However dropping from 40% to 20% overnight sounds like you have one or more rogue apps installed causing some serious drain, unless it's something you know/want to be running of course.

15-25% overnight battery drain versus 3-4%

According to the Battery thread in this forum, some people experience a high overnight battery drain, and some get a low one.
I am currently a member of the high club. For battery testing, I have most things turned off, like location services and google now. Last night overnight drain (8 hours) took the battery from 76% to 58%... 18%. On my previous phone, the HTC One, the overnight drain would be around 6%.
I am curious about the people who are getting low (~5%) overnight drains. Do they all have Wifi off? What is their secret?! Do tell.
FligMupple said:
According to the Battery thread in this forum, some people experience a high overnight battery drain, and some get a low one.
I am currently a member of the high club. For battery testing, I have most things turned off, like location services and google now. Last night overnight drain (8 hours) took the battery from 76% to 58%... 18%. On my previous phone, the HTC One, the overnight drain would be around 6%.
I am curious about the people who are getting low (~5%) overnight drains. Do they all have Wifi off? What is their secret?! Do tell.
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Install better battery stats to monitor what's going on. I think the one night I left it off charge over night I lost maybe 6-8% but I slept for like 10+ hours. This is with google now on, gps on, wifi on.
What i'm testing now that I think will actually improve batt life is having wifi turn off when display is off (unless plugged in). I think I noticed less idle drain at home when I did this but it was temporary. Giving it a shot over a few days now.
I leave wifi on and I get less than 5% drain. Nothing syncs when my screen is off except notification weather pro every two hours and Yahoo weather
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FligMupple said:
According to the Battery thread in this forum, some people experience a high overnight battery drain, and some get a low one.
I am currently a member of the high club. For battery testing, I have most things turned off, like location services and google now. Last night overnight drain (8 hours) took the battery from 76% to 58%... 18%. On my previous phone, the HTC One, the overnight drain would be around 6%.
I am curious about the people who are getting low (~5%) overnight drains. Do they all have Wifi off? What is their secret?! Do tell.
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Personally I think the X and new droids have idle drain issues. Even when better battery stats shows nearly 100% deep sleep overnight, I still lose 8-10%. In comparison, on my HTC One mini, which is setup EXACTLY the same as my X in terms of installed apps, syncing accounts, running services, etc., I lose only 2-3% overnight. The number of people complaining about the issue seems to confirm it is more widespread than on other recent phones, as do the countless screenshots showing unusually high android OS usage in battery stats.
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phositadc said:
Personally I think the X and new droids have idle drain issues. Even when better battery stats shows nearly 100% deep sleep overnight, I still lose 8-10%. In comparison, on my HTC One mini, which is setup EXACTLY the same as my X in terms of installed apps, syncing accounts, running services, etc., I lose only 2-3% overnight. The number of people complaining about the issue seems to confirm it is more widespread than on other recent phones, as do the countless screenshots showing unusually high android OS usage in battery stats.
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I honestly believe it will be patched with the Camera.
I'm having the same issue. People are reporting crazy battery stats with like 20+ hours of use 2+ hours of screen on and like 20% battery left. I get MAYBE 12 hours of use and 2 hours of screen on and 20-25% left. My mediaserver is keeping the phone awake for almost an hour+ each day, and without root I can't figure out how to stop it. I always have GPS/Google Now/Bluetooth off, too.
I thought the drain was related to Wifi. But last night WiFi was turned off for the night and I still got 18% battery drain in about 8 hours.
Wifi at home and overnight. I get about 5% drain... however, the wifi at work kills my phones battery with the wlan wakelock.
Maybe there is something going on with the X and certain wifi networks?
rman18 said:
Wifi at home and overnight. I get about 5% drain... however, the wifi at work kills my phones battery with the wlan wakelock.
Maybe there is something going on with the X and certain wifi networks?
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Interesting theory but my overnight idle drain was approximately the same on both LTE and WiFi. 10-15%.
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How about turning off all radios (flight mode) and observe battery drain at night. Then turning wifi while on flight mode the next night and see the battery drain and so on until you can pin point what causes the most drain.
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Strange battery behavior

So I went to sleep without plugging in my moto x to charge and just left it under my pillow. If I recall it had around 50-60% battery left. I woke up this morning and it had over 80%. Now I'm not complaining about getting more battery life, but I just don't understand how this is possible. I will attach a screen shot. Notice how the battery jumps up a significant amount instantly. Anyone ideas as to why this is?
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So just as quickly as my battery rose it dropped, still not sure what caused this. Has anyone else experienced anything similar? I'm stock unrooted on vzw with kitkat Ota.
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OMG that's weird....
Dogbone737 said:
So I went to sleep without plugging in my moto x to charge and just left it under my pillow. If I recall it had around 50-60% battery left. I woke up this morning and it had over 80%. Now I'm not complaining about getting more battery life, but I just don't understand how this is possible. I will attach a screen shot. Notice how the battery jumps up a significant amount instantly. Anyone ideas as to why this is?
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drain for phone all the way down until it has nothing left and dies. then charge it back up to 100% without turning it on. This should fix your battery reporting problem. It has something to do with not charging it all the way up before you used it when you first got the phone from what i have read.
I am also not sure if you need to leave the phone off when you charge it back up to 100%.I just did it that way and all was well. You may not have to, but thats what i did to solve the problem. I didn't want to have to test out my theory twice by turning the phone on mid charge and then realizing it didn't fix it then have to drain it and charge it up all over again. Your call on which to do. I just know that leaving it off will def work. the other i have not tested.

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