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Does anyone else not like that new users cannot post in the developers forum until u have posted atleast ten post in the general forum?
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Yeah, most new users come here to ***** about it, untill they realize that it's not that hard to get 10 posts
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Nope, not at all. I had made 5 or 6 posts before even hearing about said rule. Then again, I'm not a developer, so I likely won't be posting in the hallowed forum where the collective genius does it's cogitations.
Grippin' my DInc with CyanogenMod 6.1
I do not like the fact OT still doesn't have a 10 post rule.
i agree bu i also see why they do it so randomers dont post crap
jaszek said:
I do not like the fact OT still doesn't have a 10 post rule.
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This.
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Come on guys, It's only 10... Not like 100 or anything
Really not that big of a deal imo.
http://objection.mrdictionary.net/go.php?n=5183727
What you've done here, is make a thread complaining about the 10 post requirement, so noobs can feign interest to get 10 posts and spam the development forums. In all honesty, senior members (who can be trusted) should need to approve of them. Or mods. But there would be too much for the mods to approve. Hence the trustworthy seniors.
I've mentioned this before, but look how you can make a difference with your first 10 posts, like this guy did!...
(The OP was his first post on XDA)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=939682
It is a developers forum after all so it's all about the contributions you can make. I'm sure you'll be contributing in time too. Have a read of some guides and wikis, browse some theme threads and thank the people for their efforts. You'll be well on your way within an hour!
DirkGently1 said:
I've mentioned this before, but look how you can make a difference with your first 10 posts, like this guy did!...
(The OP was his first post on XDA)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=939682
It is a developers forum after all so it's all about the contributions you can make. I'm sure you'll be contributing in time too. Have a read of some guides and wikis, browse some theme threads and thank the people for their efforts. You'll be well on your way within an hour!
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True, but look at the majority of members with less than 10 posts. Yes, there is a minority with something decent to contribute, but these people are either long time lurkers or spend most of their time in other forums.
jaszek said:
I do not like the fact OT still doesn't have a 10 post rule.
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+1 on that mate...
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nah, keeps us from making a$$ of ourselves right away.
a noob on this forum may be a senior on another.. anyway, 10 posts is not a big thing.
the irony is, when the ROM creator asks for feedback, you find that you cant post on that thread!!
Edit: This is my 10th post!! Jailbreak!
I personally disagree quite strongly with it. When it was first being discussed I was under the impression that new users would not be able to create threads in the dev forums, and I was all for that. Then I realised it was not that, and suddenly the Q&A, and sometimes General, forums are filled with people asking for help flashing a ROM. My usual response is "ask in the ROM thread - the rules of XDA state not to make a new thread if there's an existing one", and they quite correctly respond that they're not allowed.
Basically, this new rule has made the Q&A and General threads even more disorganised than they already were.
I don't like it either, posting 10 posts is not easy
To all you noobs out there:
1. Read. <- You have two eyes, but ten fingers. Stop for a sec, read first before typing ANYTHING.
2. Respect. <- Most of us have gone through a lot. We've done a lot. We've contributed a lot. You have not earned the right to come in screaming, and neither have you earned the right make demands. Most of the people here do it for free. Be grateful, and worship the devs as they are meant to be.
Quite annoying i agree.. i have some nice solutions on android dev for miui on dhd..but i have tö nag up ten nonsense posta herr firat.
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Obviously i need 10 posts to practice since i can't spell (or turn off my dictionary
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I'm only at 7 and I want to post in a ROM Thread to point out some bugs which sucks that I have to wait before I can post a bug, but it's only 10 posts which is easy to get. I guess it helps with spam and people posting the same question or problem that's been posted before.
I don't now if is allowed to post this here i know is posted on general but no one go to general so!
Here we have source code please mirror to let the code arrive to all devs more fast possible
Mirror dropbox
Man are you rude! Obviously he just wanted to share. He even sort of apologize if he were on the wrong spot. But yes, the post is misplaced. But you all are. On this forum we try to help eachother. Want to share hate? Guess there are several forums for you. Not here!
did you know? You are a NOOB on XDA so don't blame others if they don't know where to post or they posted something that is not allowed...tell them that they didn't posted in the right section or things like that but no hard feelings please.....:laugh:everyone is here to help each other
Honestly, I'm quite annoyed you all here at xda! You all handle like scum! Sry but I can't say it anyway better.
Just because you are an experienced user at xda, it doesn*t give you the right to blame other people, who want to help the whole community. What is so wrong, to share dev stuff? He didn't just give a mirror, no he uploaded it so we don't need to extra super slow LG server to develop new stuff out of this.
It's really a shame, seeing you all act like this..
If you feel attacked by me now, feel free to press the report button.
Firstly I've closed this thread as there is already one open which you linked to. Development is only for work created by you so if you didn't make it then it shouldn't be there. General is for all discussions which this should've been if there wasn't already one going on.
Secondly I've cleaned the thread as what I read was ridiculous. Simple guidance would've been fine, i.e. it doesn't belong in development but what need was there for so many people to abuse the OP? Zero as stated by Impact7! If you've got nothing useful to say, then please say nothing and just report posts you don't agree with and let the mods take care of it.
Thanks
AvRS
at the beginning sry for all about the wrong place of the thread but it's the only way i can reach all dev-s
>>plz put arabic language in your custom ROMs and try to make it well ......i think it's easy for u to do that from v30b UAE cuz it's a big problem for me and im sure for others here.......letters are replaced by others in contacts/facebook/dictionaries/ etc
plz take care in that custom roms and sry again for all.
Wow...
Uh-oh
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conantroutman said:
The Dev section is NOT for asking questions.....
The Dev section is NOT for general topics..........
All threads posted MUST be prefixed with a description of the thread, [ROM] / [Kernel] etc etc.....*
*(Not planning on being particuarly strict on this. You guys (the devs), know how to title a thread.... just a pointer for new devs.)
Basically, unless your thread is to actually release something or discuss something of a very technical and n00b unfriendly nature, it doesnt belong here!
Pretty simple really.....
If you see something that shouldnt be here then PM me....
I will try to check in as reguarly as I can but I have a few sections to keep an eye on and believe it or not, a life outside XDA
Yes thats right, there is life outside XDA
Cheers
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From here.
OP, yet you knew it was wrong to post this in the Development Section....Moved! And please read the Form Rules on posting. Thank You.
Hello community.
I am old fan of these forums (changed 5-6 phones over years) and always find it most usefull from all other over internet. Recenty I have feeling that this XDAdeveloper network became something they initial wanted to avoid and over the years they strugle with petitions etc.
THE FREEDOM OF INTERNET (and your right to speak free)
Fact: Threads are closed on every mimics and blinks of eyes all over the forums or posts deleted.
Please consider this as Discussion but not flaming and be gentle and polite to everyone who rise voice. What's are your thoughts?
xCookie said:
Hello community.
I am old fan of these forums (changed 5-6 phones over years) and always find it most usefull from all other over internet. Recenty I have feeling that this XDAdeveloper network became something they initial wanted to avoid and over the years they strugle with petitions etc.
THE FREEDOM OF INTERNET (and your right to speak free)
Fact: Threads are closed on every mimics and blinks of eyes all over the forums or posts deleted.
Please consider this as Discussion but not flaming and be gentle and polite to everyone who rise voice. What's are your thoughts?
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Agree... Fxp cm10 thread for sola was closed twice. No explanation.
Ps: first time it was reasonable.. But 2nd time.. There was no reason for closure..
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-shaMe- said:
Agree... Fxp cm10 thread for sola was closed twice. No explanation.
Ps: first time it was reasonable.. But 2nd time.. There was no reason for closure..
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Coz it was continuously being spammed wid useless posts so it was btr to close it off
There has to be a balance between freedom and rules
100% freedom means no rules and thus things going out of control
Xda is well managed
Rest of the internet... Is good until CIPSA is passed...
Edit - reported for mod review... Its btr we discuss phones and not our freedom on xda
This place has rules and its best to follow them
xCookie said:
Hello community.
I am old fan of these forums (changed 5-6 phones over years) and always find it most usefull from all other over internet. Recenty I have feeling that this XDAdeveloper network became something they initial wanted to avoid and over the years they strugle with petitions etc.
THE FREEDOM OF INTERNET (and your right to speak free)
Fact: Threads are closed on every mimics and blinks of eyes all over the forums or posts deleted.
Please consider this as Discussion but not flaming and be gentle and polite to everyone who rise voice. What's are your thoughts?
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u noob are u craze
do u want to destroy the form i don’t agree
OP, yes Freedom of the Internet is just that, free to speak but with any organized sense of freedom there are rules to help govern or else it would be randomness/uselessness.
Regarding XDA, as with any forum there are Forum Rules and when Members violate them....then action is required. Maintaining a Forum of this size of Members is a task, but remember this is a Development Site, not a social site.
And as you seem to think your freedom is taken way with the maintenance that is required on the threads, keep in mind again the sole purpose of this site is for Development.
To OP - in short, I agree.
I've opened threads or discussed things which were deleted. Some mods I've communicated with were reasonable and fair but many were not. Communicating with some of them by PM, some were very angry, aggressive, unreasonable etc. I tell you, my nieces and nephews who are young seem calm and resonable by comparisson. Also, I'm quite sure a lot of 'support' goes on behind the scenes. Post number and thanks meter are currencies here, they go far beyond 'showing appreciation' etc. 'Might is right' that's the attitude of a bully or a dictator, not an authority . So, it's 'open' and 'democratic' only up to a point - where it suits particular people. The policies for complaining were equally a joke, in my experience. After that, I decided to keep my posts strickly related to my 'mod' interests and never get side-tracked again. When these people make you angry, remember to let it go, this is not the real world.
ok... i had four android devices: Defy, Xperia Sola, Nexus 7 and Razr I, still have three of this (sola, Razr I and Nexus 7).... Only in this forum i have seen this kind of constriction of users... i could give some examples: In Defy Android Development Forum, cm10 port for Defy, made by Quarx (maybe someone know him, he was the winner of the December contest for devs), there is a enormous flood of noobish post (how to install, stupid questions about fc's, stupid thanks posts, etc.) despite three or four threads in general sections for reporting bugs and other stuff correlated, but Quarx did deleted or close thread? No! Because he only focus in what really matter: Development. He ignores everything else. So, maybe, some devs could learn about this behaviour. And what mods tells about it? sometimes, they made a soft cleanup of useless post...that's all... Sometimes Closing thread doesn't help at all to the community.... I think mods maybe could take a more practical and polite position...
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ok... i had four android devices: Defy, Xperia Sola, Nexus 7 and Razr I, still have three of this (sola, Razr I and Nexus 7).... Only in this forum i have seen this kind of constriction of users... i could give some examples: In Defy Android Development Forum, cm10 port for Defy, made by Quarx (maybe someone know him, he was the winner of the December contest for devs), there is a enormous flood of noobish post (how to install, stupid questions about fc's, stupid thanks posts, etc.) despite three or four threads in general sections for reporting bugs and other stuff correlated, but Quarx did deleted or close thread? No! Because he only focus in what really matter: Development. He ignores everything else. So, maybe, some devs could learn about this behaviour. And what mods tells about it? sometimes, they made a soft cleanup of useless post...that's all... Sometimes Closing thread doesn't help at all to the community.... I think mods maybe could take a more practical and polite position...
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I never saw any 'useful' thread being closed by our mods in this sub forum....
Cm10 thread was closed twice..reason because of spam..only posts such as thanks and great... Yippy... Etc etc
I reported the thread twice to b cleaned
There is a great inflow of members.. Every day 100 of noobs are added and merely few developers...
Useless posts really makes it difficult to find actually useful info..
When I was new here I did created a thread which was closed and I did pm'ed a moderator abt it
Bt now I understand I was wrong... U just cant let this place be cluttered wid useless threads and posts
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I never saw any 'useful' thread being closed by our mods in this sub forum....
Cm10 thread was closed twice..reason because of spam..only posts such as thanks and great... Yippy... Etc etc
I reported the thread twice to b cleaned
There is a great inflow of members.. Every day 100 of noobs are added and merely few developers...
Useless posts really makes it difficult to find actually useful info..
When I was new here I did created a thread which was closed and I did pm'ed a moderator abt it
Bt now I understand I was wrong... U just cant let this place be cluttered wid useless threads and posts
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if you need to find some "useful" info, you always can use the search function of xda... I know a lot of noobs doesn't even use that before posting, but i expect that some of the "old" users could do it...
espaciosalter20 said:
if you need to find some "useful" info, you always can use the search function of xda... I know a lot of noobs doesn't even use that before posting, but i expect that some of the "old" users could do it...
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Yup I knw search function
Btw ho do u expect me to find something useful in a thread wid 100 pages and 1000 posts...
U never knw what are u 'exactly' searching for... Upto the level of thread search performs good ... Within a thread and specifically for finding something useful... Its a pain
Dont u think it is necessary to prevent unnecessary posts and threads? Closing a useless or a mirror thread is necessary
Once people realise there Is no one to check/control... The place would go garbage
drsanket_xperia_u said:
Yup I knw search function
Btw ho do u expect me to find something useful in a thread wid 100 pages and 1000 posts...
U never knw what are u 'exactly' searching for... Upto the level of thread search performs good ... Within a thread and specifically for finding something useful... Its a pain
Dont u think it is necessary to prevent unnecessary posts and threads? Closing a useless or a mirror thread is necessary
Once people realise there Is no one to check/control... The place would go garbage
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Only if members of this forums were more kind and helpful to everyone we could avoid a lot of questions and together we could make more easy the job for the mods. That's something that i miss of Defy Development forum: The sense of real community, in fact, the little knowing about android modding and dev, i have learned in there. You could check for yourself what i'm talking about: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1768702
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Yup I knw search function
Btw ho do u expect me to find something useful in a thread wid 100 pages and 1000 posts...
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Me too! I always have that problem, you try as best as you can.
I recently went to the discussion thread of the unofficial Sola Jelly Bean port. The discussion thread is now also closed. I contacted a mod to ask for information. There was no information in the thread! Next, we will be banned from discussing the discussion of the deleted thread...
dev should ignore newbies because its not the fault of all of us. we dont deserve to lose the scope of JB. and when i had my defy i only knew 1 god for my mobile.. Quarx.. he made things which were not possible without him. i though sola's god was better than him. but he is pissed off by few noobs.
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Me too! I always have that problem, you try as best as you can.
I recently went to the discussion thread of the unofficial Sola Jelly Bean port. The discussion thread is now also closed. I contacted a mod to ask for information. There was no information in the thread! Next, we will be banned from discussing the discussion of the deleted thread...
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Mods arent that hard...and never will be
How many of us have received any official warning?? None of us I guess bcoz we were smart enough to refrain ourselves from posting non sense... Bt not all have that sense...
We need to understand what mods do is best for the forum... We may be relatively new here bt not the mods.. Some have been here since the website was started... Some although 2-3 yrs old on website spends a lot of time here keeping the place clean n organized.
Unless u do something wrong u wont b caught...
Here at xda we are given several official warnings (sometimes just our post /thread deleted or locked n no warning) before being taken down by a mod...
Ok, good. This is discussion already...
I see people with yes and people with no policy but only because some n00b members don't know how to use this forum (don't forget that there is a lot of amount of young people here - under 15 probably) and they probably don't know how things are going here. If this is a BIG problem for forum moderators (huge amount of new members) I suggest to lift boundaries on "when someone can post something" - think about it... it would be less thanks posts and "yipee"-es.
Please continue...
Here are my thoughts:
I still don't understand why we're still whining about munjeni's lost. Yeah, it's painful and disappointing but guys, we should carry on. Since he has given permission to use his work from the "JB PORT Discussion thread" (can't give the link because the mods deleted it), we can start from what he has left. I don't know why's that the JB thread of thunder is still closed. I know nothing compares to munjeni in terms of developing but we still have great devs here and I still have faith in them. Not just because munjeni has left, the development on JB will stop. I know it's a painful lost but we can't do anything about it anymore, we can just learn from it so that we will not lose another dev again. Come on guys....seriously.
Move on and what? If you think people are whining perhaps you can't understand their motivations. I can understand at least two reasons:
1. As the OP says, there are questions of freedom of expression. An example of this which I mentioned was the thread closing (without information) of the discussion thread of those of using the unoffical Jelly Bean port which, is a bit excessive. This is a ROM on my phone now (and many, many other's) and we simply can't discuss it now. Next, we will be banned from discussing the thread closure of the disucssion on deleted ROM. That's when you know it's North Korea - you can't discuss anything. I think these concerns are valid, even if some don't.
2. You need to learn something when things go wrong, or they will repeat themselves. Simply 'moving on' guarentees a repeat of the same experience. That's why people are discussing it.
But I want to know,why munjeni left us.?
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MUHAMMAD KHALIL said:
But I want to know,why munjeni left us.?
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Sir, that would be something to ask that Member directly....and not take it from hearsay.
MUHAMMAD KHALIL said:
But I want to know,why munjeni left us.?
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heres some light
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=40354794&postcount=438
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well... Moderators deletes and close thread or comments its normal, its what they do.... they must have valid reason to take actions.
good thing, they are still human and not AI. if they are not here... we'll ended up something like demonoid. people will start posting what ever they want, links to paid apps that they rip or mod. Others will have hard time catching up with roms since everyone starts to copy each other work and claim its theirs....
in short... i dont agree freedom of internet in XDA
Developers on XDA nowadays face more and more hate just cause they are not the favourite dev of someone, or cause someone thinks they did copy something. Sometimes people even make death threats against developers!
Should XDA do something about that, like for example filter obtrusive, insulting content in posts?
If you want to change something please sign the change.org petition here: https://www.change.org/p/xda-developers-com-make-something-about-the-hate-towards-devs-on-xda
BTW: I say this not just like that but I actually am a victim of this myself! See the pic in the petition!
XDA has Moderators to handle posts that disrespect others, or break any of the site rules. It takes reports to alert us though, we can't monitor every thread.
Also, this kind of drama creating thread is not going to help anything and will only work against your objective.
So please, simply report posts that break rules and Moderators will handle it.
And note, it definitely takes a thick skin to interact with others on the internet, developers especially. You can't let every negative post get you down, just ignore them. Does it matter what a stranger thinks? Not to me.
I am going to close this now. This kind of thing will end badly for everyone and serves no purpose.
Cheers,
Darth
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