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Hey guys, wanted to post this publicly because I think we can throw ideas around, not just between people on XDATV but with anyone interested. Basically, I want to share some of the things I've learned from youtube over the years about optimizing the impact of our videos. If we work together on this, everyone benefits.
I assume everyone wants to see their view count go up. We make videos for people to watch, and the view count says how many times they've been watched. So that's the goal, and these ideas are all about achieving that goal. For each idea, I'm putting what we'd do, and then explain why.
1. Post only on your designated day--or if you must, on a day when no one else is posting--so there is only one video posted per day.
Most of the views come from that Latest Video on XDATV box on the right hand column on the portal. At the very least this idea is a courtesy to one another because we aren't taking time on that prime real estate away from each other. Our videos shouldn't compete with our other videos. We're working as a whole, however disjointedly. I wouldn't post more than one video a day even on my own channel for the very same reason. Actually, that's not true... I have posted more than one video in a day on my youtube channel before, with the explicit intention of burying the first. Because that's what posting more than one video a day does.
Videos do not work like blogs. Especially not when the videos are time-sensitive, as many of our videos are. And looking on every other tech blog that also makes videos, you'll see they do this too. The reason the first video gets so few views is because even the most dedicated viewers tend to check Youtube only once per day. Also, the longer a video goes before the next is posted, the more views it gets. Something to keep in mind if you want to post more in a week than your timeslot allows.
2. Tell the viewers to subscribe to the youtube channel, or at least to check out more of our videos.
Currently, our videos are averaging more views than the xdadevelopers youtube channel has subscribers. While that's a good indication of future growth, it still means that more people are watching than are subscribed. Often, people just forget to do it. Given the linear growth in subscribers versus the radically varying video views, it means that we aren't building a steady viewer base, we're mostly getting one-time views in passing.
Now, I know we're here more or less to provide a service to the forum, and if that's all we want XDATV to be, then there's no reason to follow this idea. However, XDATV could be a great marketing tool for xda-developers, which would make the relationship between XDATV and the forum less parasitic and more symbiotic. Bad analogy, but I can't think of a better one right now. I can't think of any reason why we wouldn't want XDATV to bring people to the forum and likewise, instead of only the forum bringing people to XDATV. Our subscriber count means nothing on the forums, but on Youtube, subscribers mean baseline views. (And if videos are getting far fewer views than the channel has subscribers, something went very wrong. That's the case with my channel, went on too many hiatuses.) Building it needs to be a big focus.
3. Provide links, article titles, tags, and video titles with each video.
For the most part we all provide article titles and links, but the more, the better. Internet searches pick up on everything in the video description, so the more detailed it is, the more traffic your video will get. Tags and video titles are the same, but we don't do them. Tags provide keywords. You know this, I'm just reiterating. Imagine every reason you can that someone might need your video. Your tags should be all the words you think they would search to find your video.
Lastly, the video titles. When I find tech videos for other sites, if it's news they title it with one or two of the biggest headlines, put ambiguously. That way people searching for any related headlines will be more inclined to watch. Stuff like "NEW EVO 3D!!!!" or "Xperia Mini Revealed!" And so on. And trust me, people click it. If it's a tutorial, review, or even interview, the title tends to be what you can do with the info in the video. Chad sorta did that a bit ago, but it should be simpler. Something like, "Root Your Desire HD". Shawn, your interview with Mendozinas could have been titled "Make Your Own Themes on Android". The titles are relevant, but capitalize on what people can get out of it, rather than what it's about or, as we're titling them now, what it is. And then, providing these things for Svetius will make his job a whole lot easier.
I was pretty sure I had more, but I forgot for now. So go make words below this post, preferably in some coherent order and pertinence.
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Werd. Agreed. I don't give XDA as much love as I give the other two sites I work for. I might start soon.
Azrienoch, the podcast should also pick up the viewing count and any description added to the files, so such information is always good, particularly links.
I just hope that we can get the update process sorted out so you guys can do your encoding and then update the podcast without any effort on your part. I'm not sure what we need to do to submit the podcast to iTunes etc, but I am reluctant to do so until the podcast is updated promptly (I guess I could open it up for other users to upload the videos instead, but that creates other issues).
At the moment, there will be a two week gap in updates as I won't be able to do it until the end of the month.
There are still some adjustments I want to make to it (icon, description etc), so if you guys want anything altered or changed then let me know. Most parts are adjustable (I've noticed that meltwater is in the copywrite bit - it only showed up on my GoogleReader, I'll remove it when I can - it is because I'm using my FeedBurner version of the youTube feed to get around my access issues...which I setup a while back).
If we want to move it to a common account or something then it will have no effect on the podcast link itself (as you just update feedburner account). Also we can set-up a common feedburner account too if you guys want to view the stats.
As of Today, the stats are: 896 views of 34 items
If only youtube would re-enable the rss feeds directly and then the podcast would also count on the viewing count too. I can also add a podcast item about subscribing to the channel too, but not everyone wants to use data-plans to access content on the go.
A better line of communication with the news team and owners/maintainers of the site wouldn't hurt, either. At the present time it's like a 5 story office building, and the door is locked to each floor, so you have to call and request it to be opened over intercom.
Today's stats are: 1,446 views of 34 items
Shame as it is just starting to grow, it won't be updated for a while.
meltwater said:
Today's stats are: 1,446 views of 34 items
Shame as it is just starting to grow, it won't be updated for a while.
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No worries, man. We're in this for the long haul.
azrienoch said:
No worries, man. We're in this for the long haul.
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Shall look forward to the new videos when I return! Cheers.
Great tips, Jeff.
Seriously after watching this video .https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66-4uMQqerA&feature=youtube_gdata_player. I don't remember anyone who covered it so professionally oh well I really enjoyed it..
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I totally agree!
The Verge is awesome. Best Tech site ever...besides XDA of course...
Not to bash on the verge by any means. But its more like Google invited them and did this video as a replacement for the NY event that was cancelled.
I don't see it as journalism. A Google sponsored infomercial is more like it honestly.
Probably did not want to change the launch date. No time to get a another venue & date. Don't want to do webcast event with only a couple people present. Do something like this with the verge.
For unbiased reviews my top sites are :
- Anandtech
- Heelsandtech
- Gigaom
Other than that I take the 2nd tier sites like theverge, engadget, etc with a grain of salt.
I think they must have been invited earlier, maybe last week, and they just asked them not to publish the video until after they announced the device.
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ap3604 said:
For unbiased reviews my top sites are :
- Anandtech
- Heelsandtech
- Gigaom
Other than that I take the 2nd tier sites like theverge, engadget, etc with a grain of salt.
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Anandtech is definitely bias.
osi13 said:
Anandtech is definitely bias.
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you straight crazy son
Anandtech is one of the most unbiased review sites ever. The scientific analysis he does, instead of just simply regurgitating the spec list and saying if he like's it or not the way so many other tech sites do, is above all else.
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Not to bash on the verge by any means. But its more like Google invited them and did this video as a replacement for the NY event that was cancelled.
I don't see it as journalism. A Google sponsored infomercial is more like it honestly.
Probably did not want to change the launch date. No time to get a another venue & date. Don't want to do webcast event with only a couple people present. Do something like this with the verge.
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I highly doubt they recorded that after the event was cancelled. Most likely they were going to release it today whether the event took place or not and released it as soon as they were allowed by Google.
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ap3604 said:
you straight crazy son
Anandtech is one of the most unbiased review sites ever. The scientific analysis he does, instead of just simply regurgitating the spec list and saying if he like's it or not the way so many other tech sites do, is above all else.
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Anandtech is good at technical reviews but not necessarily real world reviews.
ap3604 said:
I take the 2nd tier sites like theverge, engadget, etc with a grain of salt.
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I agree. Websites that do reviews have to make revenue so they are bias regardless or at least restricted on the amount of negativity, otherwise they won't receive new phones from the same carrier/manufacture in the future.
Lol at people getting mad that review sites are biased. Of course they are! What do you expect, a glorified press release? That's not journalism at all. Journalism is suppose to be critical and investigative.
The only reason Anandtech is unbiased is because their reviews are more like scientific tests: charts, numbers, quantifiable stuff. Once you start asking them whether you like or dislike the phone, it turns BIASED. I personally don't give two ****zus about numbers and graphs. I want an educated opinion from a geek about whether he likes a phone or not, someone who has handled more than one phone and can make comparisons on a whole host of questions.
It's when the fanboys get angry that their baby wasn't reviewed positively that they start screaming bias. As long as reviewers support their opinions in detail and remain respectful (unlike Gizmodo when they **** all over Blackberry for not sending them a review unit or gave their Nokia N8 to a person who could barely type), it's all good. When they act disrespectful and start throwing insults, place double-standards, and have terrible supporting evidence, do you say, now that is TRULLY BIASED BS.
Here are some ****zu-y sites I've come across:
NokiaBlog, WMPowerUser, WPCentral (duh)
AndroidCentral, AndroidCommunity, Android_______ (double duh)
Gizmodo (no allegiance. Just tabloid fare to provoke and garner hits)
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Lol at people getting mad that review sites are biased. Of course they are! What do you expect, a glorified press release? That's not journalism at all. Journalism is suppose to be critical and investigative.
The only reason Anandtech is unbiased is because their reviews are more like scientific tests: charts, numbers, quantifiable stuff. Once you start asking them whether you like or dislike the phone, it turns BIASED. I personally don't give two ****zus about numbers and graphs. I want an educated opinion from a geek about whether he likes a phone or not, someone who has handled more than one phone and can make comparisons on a whole host of questions.
It's when the fanboys get angry that their baby wasn't reviewed positively that they start screaming bias. As long as reviewers support their opinions in detail and remain respectful (unlike Gizmodo when they **** all over Blackberry for not sending them a review unit or gave their Nokia N8 to a person who could barely type), it's all good. When they act disrespectful and start throwing insults, place double-standards, and have terrible supporting evidence, do you say, now that is TRULLY BIASED BS.
Here are some ****zu-y sites I've come across:
NokiaBlog, WMPowerUser, WPCentral (duh)
AndroidCentral, AndroidCommunity, Android_______ (double duh)
Gizmodo (no allegiance. Just tabloid fare to provoke and garner hits)
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I like watching youtube reviews like MobileTechReview and Pocketnow, although they are bias too it still give enough of a hint about a device. In all honesty, I fear more the elitist group of Android fanboys from the Galaxy Nexus forum section, once they obtain this device and move on to here, I will be making my retreat.
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The only reason Anandtech is unbiased is because their reviews are more like scientific tests: charts, numbers, quantifiable stuff. Once you start asking them whether you like or dislike the phone, it turns BIASED. I personally don't give two ****zus about numbers and graphs. I want an educated opinion from a geek about whether he likes a phone or not, someone who has handled more than one phone and can make comparisons on a whole host of questions.
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I personally don't give two %#&! about a site that says : "battery life is ok". That doesn't tell me squat.
I would MUCH rather have a scientific study done showing the amount of battery life based on what you were doing the entire time to run it down.
I personally don't give two %#&! about a review site that says: "screen brightness is good". That doesn't do anything for me.
I would MUCH rather have a scientific test done showing the screen brightness in nits so I can compare it against other phones.
I would rather have too much knowledge than not enough and make my own choice based on the knowledge given to me, rather than someone elses opinion who might not have the same preferences I do.
Of course it's helpful to have differing opinions of phones, but most review sites beyond anandtech don't know how to write a real review.
Verge is crap. I sheep infested site. Took it off my favs long time ago and never looked back.
Nice video
Nice sales video and definitely pre-recorded
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Verge is crap. I sheep infested site. Took it off my favs long time ago and never looked back.
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iSheep? The website that has been highly critical of Apple and iOS? You must be confused. Their editor in chief uses a Galaxy Nexus.
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florian3000 said:
Nice sales video and definitely pre-recorded
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To be fair almost all of the Verge's review/investigative type videos look like this. They spend on a lot of money on their video team apparently.
I enjoyed the video from the Verge and the articles were very well written. They perfectly answered my questions about the lack of an LTE Nexus 4; from Google's standpoint, it makes perfect sense. Shame on you Verizon...
That being said BGR is the BEST! I'm SO joking - In all seriousness, I read a lot of those sites, them formulate my own opinion about how said device stacks up. I rarely take the opinion/bias from one site alone.
Everyone on this planet is subjective. There is no such thing as objective, except when looking at a spec sheet.
I subjectively object to the word journalism being used to describe any review site.
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I like watching youtube reviews like MobileTechReview and Pocketnow, although they are bias too it still give enough of a hint about a device. In all honesty, I fear more the elitist group of Android fanboys from the Galaxy Nexus forum section, once they obtain this device and move on to here, I will be making my retreat.
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And who should that be? And why not just blocking them?
Hey, I was viewing reddit and someone made a neat spreadsheet to help people track kind of estimate their shipping info. I know there is a shipping/tracking thread, but I thought this was neat enough to deserve its own thread. If the mods decide it's not, that's totally cool. Also, I did a quick search on this site to see if this has been posted yet, I did not see it, so forgive me if I missed that.
Anyways, It's not the most reliable source since there could be a ton of issues, like people not updating once they get their tracking number or phone, or people selecting the wrong country, but it is something.
Here's a link to the reddit post:
http://www.reddit.com/r/nexus4/comments/14ah75/spreadsheet_to_track_nexus_4_shipping_any_country/
Link to putting in your own info:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dHhabEZuYjJIUEdwNFd0TkJrNmY1amc6MQ
Link to compare what others have put (the actual spreadsheet):
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AmM6lFxEl6RMdHhabEZuYjJIUEdwNFd0TkJrNmY1amc
Like I said, take this with a grain of salt, but I think it's good for helping us roughly (and by that, I mean VERY roughly) estimate when we should be getting our phones.
Thanks for this. Found a useful tracking sheet, how to find out the status of my order AND a new reddit community to join. 3 for the price of 1.
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Hi there.
For those who don't know who I am, I'm from the galaxy tab 1 10.1 section. I mean the original galaxy tab 10.1, the tegra 2 one. I managed to get android 4.3 (cm10.2) and android 4.4 (omni 4.4) working on the device after cyanogenmod discontinued it. I really don't agree with their decision that "no neon" = sh*t device but that's another discussion for another off topic thread.
Despite the fact that I am a university student, I still like to watch cartoons. However, I have to say the new batch of cartoons coming from Nickelodeon and Cartoon Network are sh*t. I'm talking about titles like "bread winners", "sanjay and craig", "regular show", "world of gumball" etc which appear to feature mentally challenged characters committing acts of stupidity for stupidity's sake. Please don't bash my off topic thread if you like these shows. That debate is also another topic for another off topic thread. I have nothing against you or your taste, but for my entertainment tastes, these shows won't cut it for me.
I stumbled across a website that featured random recent cartoon suggestions. Of those, I saw 3 recent-ish anime suggestions. I thought they were pretty decent. Unfortunately, they also tend to recommend some of the titles I mentioned above. It's really a random selection that I don't think is based on any ratings chart. The first series I saw was Death Note. I really liked that one. It was very exciting with so many twists and turns that you just couldn't put it down that easily. In between I caught Infinite Stratos. While there was a bit too much "butts and breasts" for my taste I thought the story was decent enough. The fighting was nice and the characters for for the most part likeable. Lastly I saw Dusk Maiden of Amnesia. It thought it such a sweet story that left you with a nice warm and fuzzy feeling. I also thought the characters were fairly likeable.
If you guys know anything like those 3 I'd really like suggestions for what else I should watch in my spare time. Preferably dubs over subs but I don't mind a bit of quick reading if it's a good show. Feel free to critique each others's suggestions too. There's only so much I can get out of a quick wikipedia summary.
Thank you in advanced for your suggestions to keep me from getting bored.
We have a thread for that
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1548531
Suggestions anyway
Code Geass
Fate Zero
Psycho Pass
Btooom
Ergo Proxy
Stein's gate
Another
Baccano/Durarara !
Attack On Titan
Naruto
Another
karandpr said:
We have a thread for that
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1548531
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Please continue you discussion in the linked thread above.
So, I decided to make a bit of a different video showing how silly complaining about phones looks like in the real world, versus on message boards or YouTube comments.
Mod edit: But after some thought and reading the thread that says "READ ME BEFORE POSTING", OP found that there was a much more suitable place to post it, than this shiny new thread. So, anyone interested in the video can go and see it in the correct place...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1178307