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I know nothing about Android TV software, but I'm interested in buying an Ouya (already pre-ordered) for the sole purpose of installing Android and using it as an Android TV with gaming capabilities. This may seem like quite a stretch, I'm not sure.
Does Google share the source code for Android TV? Is anyone else interested in this or something similar?
Well, someone can try to port the Android TV Apps to Ouya, but we need the sources...
Hey ... i think about the same Project.
First of all we should wait if the first Ouya Devices shipped because i think at these time they will release the needing Sources.
If not we have "GPL Violation" .... so we should wait.
I will perfom the integrated "XBMC" with now support Live-TV in Combination with "tvheadend" Server but need help to get tvheadend compile and run under "Android-Kernel" (Tegra3). If some developer will help it would be great !!!
XBMC is already working on supporting OUYA so no worries there. It will probably be ready by the time OUYA consoles ship out.
.........TPT'd From my SGS3
AW: Android TV Software
RobKort said:
XBMC is already working on supporting OUYA so no worries there. It will probably be ready by the time OUYA consoles ship out.
.........TPT'd From my SGS3
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I know it but for getting xbmc work like live tv you need server with Communication to your dvb device over USB. I actually test some dev porting and compiling of tvheadend server for Android Kernel but got some Problems because Most libs doesnt work .
I test actually with tegra 2 device so if first Version run its easier to port it to newer tegra parts !
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I use my HDHomeRun on XBMC. It's natively supported with XBMC and it's a network streamer. You set up a list of your channels (takes a bit of work), then select which channel you want from a list. Get a HDHomeRun.
I been using a Rasp Pi....
Sort of related, I installed the YouTube for Google TV apk on my Ouya and it runs great. Works splendidly with a controller, and can still use my phone to control playback.
edit: sorry if this was a terrible grave-dig.
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Sort of related, I installed the YouTube for Google TV apk on my Ouya and it runs great. Works splendidly with a controller, and can still use my phone to control playback.
edit: sorry if this was a terrible grave-dig.
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Sounds great. Is there a place you might point us to to find this?
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mybook4 said:
Sounds great. Is there a place you might point us to to find this?
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I found a "newish" version here (not sure if it's the newest or not)
http://minixforums.com/threads/youtube-for-google-tv-v1-5-1.152/#post-1677
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I found a "newish" version here (not sure if it's the newest or not)
http://minixforums.com/threads/youtube-for-google-tv-v1-5-1.152/#post-1677
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That's where I got it too.
For those that can't locate the APK cause it keeps being removed....see attached.
James
I guess there's no playback control other than backing out?
I'd like to start a thread for news/rumors of more officially supported services.
Not casting web-pages, or demo Apps/Hacks, but Official Apps from other services that support Chromecast.
Any hope?
well hulu and pandora is confirmed, but the main problem right now is the SDK isn't complete (they have a preview one out though).
Once the SDK is done we will start seeing a lot of content I bet.
I am looking forward to bitcasa support. That will be awesome.
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I'd like to start a thread for news/rumors of more officially supported services.
Not casting web-pages, or demo Apps/Hacks, but Official Apps from other services that support Chromecast.
Any hope?
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I hope so - I think this is the first step of moving away from Broadcast TV for TV entertainment. This is the revolution that Apple had planned to do but didn't. When people do reviews of the Cast I think they miss the largest point. Controlling the content using an interface we all love (phone or tablet) is a giant step forward. Using the built in smart features of a TV or DVD to search for a YouTube video is a terrible experience. You need a link to find most things and those are shared in communication links in your phone.
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well hulu and pandora is confirmed, but the main problem right now is the SDK isn't complete (they have a preview one out though).
Once the SDK is done we will start seeing a lot of content I bet.
I am looking forward to bitcasa support. That will be awesome.
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There is still no "cast" button on Pandora. Did you mean it is confirmed that they are working on it?
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There is still no "cast" button on Pandora. Did you mean it is confirmed that they are working on it?
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Ya i thought that is what you were talking about, what else the chromecast will be able to do. Its confirmed it will be able to use hulu and pandora should be comming kinda soon. And HBO, Vimeo, Redbox Instant, Vevo (?), Devour (?), Blip (?) (maybe these are britsh or something, i've never heard of them), have all mentioned they are planning on it.
(where I got the information)
http://gigaom.com/2013/08/01/blip-hulu-vevo-and-devour-are-coming-to-chromecast/
http://www.mediapost.com/publicatio...ndora-coming-to-chromecast.html#axzz2bxRDgXfS
http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/07/30/redbox-instant-and-vimeo-coming-to-chromecast
So ya in total we have
right now
youtube
netflix
google play music
google play video
soon
hulu
pandora
HBO go
announced support
Vimeo
Redbox Instant
Vevo
Devour
Blip
plus soon we get the official sdk and we will get 100s of apps I bet
Hulu said they were interested in adding it some day. I wouldn't be expecting it anytime soon. The only real partner besides Netflix announced at launch was Pandora. My guess is Pandora will release an update about the same time the final SDK is released. Google is probably working with Pandora as sort of a beta test of the SDK.
PLEX has announced support. :good:
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PLEX has announced support. :good:
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Source? I just quickly looked over their website but couldn't find an official announcement.
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Source? I just quickly looked over their website but couldn't find an official announcement.
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there is no "official" announcement....
look for the posts by "elan" on this page: (hes the lead dev of PLEX)
http://forums.plexapp.com/index.php/topic/75359-chromecast/page-8
You won't need much more once new version of BubbleUPNP is released
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neLkKbfl42E
Can't wait.
These images are outdated! do not use them anymore!
there are much more useful roms and mods for the chromecast now made my devs who actually own the device. go use them. I am no longer doing anything at all with the chromecast. (I haven't found one at any local store with a serial number in the rootable range, and I have no use for a stock one.)
rooted images for the chromecast that will remove google's ability to update anything at will. Use this to save your open bootloader.
Discussion started in here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2387392
Split off to make it easier to find for new users.
download:
build 13300: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2453097 not my image. Made by someone who actually owns a chromecast.
build 12940: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/19978192/gtvhacker-chromecast-12940.bin.gz
build 12840: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/19978192/gtvhacker-chromecast.bin.gz
Thanks to:
GTVHacker - original root image
Google - for making the h2g2-42
ellen - putting up with me making these instead of watching chick flics with her
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reserved because I like reserving posts
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I like that you're reserving posts! ...especially this kind of post! lol
If I factory reset my chromecast with this firmware will it upgrade or keep this firmware?
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If I factory reset my chromecast with this firmware will it upgrade or keep this firmware?
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A factory reset will just wipe the data partition, so the device will still be safe from self-upgrading.
This is great man, I just got my cable today and my chromecast a couple days ago, I refrained from plugging it in, so unless its been updated already it should be on!
So do I need to flash the original GTVHacker bin and then your 12940 bin?
Thanks for the great work and thanks to GTVHackers and XDA.
You can just flash mine
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This is great man, I just got my cable today and my chromecast a couple days ago, I refrained from plugging it in, so unless its been updated already it should be on!
So do I need to flash the original GTVHacker bin and then your 12940 bin?
Thanks for the great work and thanks to GTVHackers and XDA.
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Flash tvall's image if you don't want it to auto-update and loose root..
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Flash tvall's image if you don't want it to auto-update and loose root..
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So we only need to flash one of these two images, correct? I'm assuming it's the first one, right? "gtvhacker-chromecast-12940.bin.gz" is tvall's image that we need to flash? After flashing that image, we'll be rooted, on the most current version, AND auto-updates will be disabled?
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So we only need to flash one of these two images, correct? I'm assuming it's the first one, right? "gtvhacker-chromecast-12940.bin.gz" is tvall's image that we need to flash? After flashing that image, we'll be rooted, on the most current version, AND auto-updates will be disabled?
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Correct
It is my understanding that one of Google's OTA's blocks local files streaming like Fling. Does your image contain the update that broke Fling?
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It is my understanding that one of Google's OTA's blocks local files streaming like Fling. Does your image contain the update that broke Fling?
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IIRC, it wasn't an OTA update that broke Fling. Google made some changes server-side that broke it. The ChromeCast connects to Google servers (or 'phones home') during use. The developer of Fling used unsupported API calls in the app, which was built using the preview SDK. Google's updates invalidated those calls, essentially rendering the app useless. Google has stated that the breaking of local media casting was unintentional, and they do plan on allowing support in the future. At the moment, the ChromeCast can still be considered a device in testing. I don't think the official SDK is out yet.
AirCast was "reverse engineered" though, right? So if it didn't have that "time bomb" in it, it should still work, right?
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AirCast was "reverse engineered" though, right? So if it didn't have that "time bomb" in it, it should still work, right?
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Aircast is dead. Fling is dead. Rooting does not help. These are dead until some day Google decides to allow it. Google allows only a few apps : Netflix, YouTube, and Google provided content. Google could have decided that allcast and fling were so popular that permitting it like Netflix is permitted will increase sales. Google could have decided to permit allcast and fling, but decided against it.
So, you might have purchased the chromecast after reading about allcast as I did, and am disappointed with having purchased a device whose very few apps are uninteresting to me.
There are only a few choices :
1. Wait and hope google will permit allcast and Fling in the future.
2. Wait and see if developers will provide this functionality for rooted devices.
3. Sell the chromecast to someone who loves Netflix and netflix alone - who isn't interested in connectivity to the many other Internet content providers - like one has access to via Roku.
Actually, stores have many devices, either standalone or built into blu ray players which provides Netflix along with far more choices for Internet provided media. Google's chromecast looks very inferior to me.
In its current form, chromecast is probably a big disappointment to most people who have purchased it. The only hope is that it will become something better in the future - either directly from Google, or via developers.
At this time, rooting gets us nothing, except hope.
Anyone want to write some detailed instructions on how to use this?
I just make the images, I don't know exactly how to use them
tim is so helpful
tvall said:
Anyone want to write some detailed instructions on how to use this?
I just make the images, I don't know exactly how to use them
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tvall...man, lemme tell ya...i'm impressed. You're sittin there making images for our Chromecasts and you aren't even able to see if they work or not and you aren't even getting to enjoy this toy. I wouldn't have NEAR the patience that you must have, especially if I wasn't even able to enjoy what I had worked on. I dunno how you do it man, but congratulations! you're officially DA BOMB!! lol We all appreciate everything you've done for us here and look forward to MANNNYYYYY more updates from you! Thank You!
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IIRC, it wasn't an OTA update that broke Fling. Google made some changes server-side that broke it. The ChromeCast connects to Google servers (or 'phones home') during use. The developer of Fling used unsupported API calls in the app, which was built using the preview SDK. Google's updates invalidated those calls, essentially rendering the app useless. Google has stated that the breaking of local media casting was unintentional, and they do plan on allowing support in the future. At the moment, the ChromeCast can still be considered a device in testing. I don't think the official SDK is out yet.
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That's very odd. I didn't think that Fling would need to connect to Google servers in order to function. Shouldn't everything just work locally? If I unhook my cable modem and leave my router on, wouldn't Fling still function without the internet?
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That's very odd. I didn't think that Fling would need to connect to Google servers in order to function. Shouldn't everything just work locally? If I unhook my cable modem and leave my router on, wouldn't Fling still function without the internet?
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See here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=45011314
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Hi this is great news! Chromecast is getting its turn with a brand new User Experience Guide!
I read this article in androidpolice.com in this link:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/1...lopers-still-no-word-on-the-whitelist-policy/
The guide is here:
https://developers.google.com/cast/design_consider
Google Cast is a technology that allows Android and iOS mobile apps and Chrome web apps to “cast” content - like video, audio, and screen sharing (mirroring) - to Cast-ready devices like Google Chromecast.
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(Emphasis added)
Screen sharing must be coming!!
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Screen sharing must be coming!!
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Koush saw it in the source code of KitKat so yes it will be coming but it may be restricted. and dependent on the Unit Manufacturer for implementation.
Which suggests it may not work for apps (they would use the current methods) and be a Device and ROM specific feature.
The fact that it will be possible will make those restriction more like Guidelines than rules once Devs get their hands on how it works.
I am loving where this is all going! As I always say..it is only a matter of time.
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I am loving where this is all going! As I always say..it is only a matter of time.
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Amen!
Also the guide makes it clear that the current Chromecast is only one implementation. I think the rumors of a Nexus TV being announced early next year are probably true and it will include native Cast support.
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Also the guide makes it clear that the current Chromecast is only one implementation. I think the rumors of a Nexus TV being announced early next year are probably true and it will include native Cast support.
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Yes I can see some Smart TVs adding this capability natively at some point. Biggest user complaint they get is they hate the Menu and navigation on the TV and this might make it easier to create an App that would do all this for their TVs in a much better way!
The good news on this Google release is it seems to suggest the SDK is about to drop to the FULL PUBLIC...
It was invitation only before the Hackathon and I think the Hackathon was really meant to test the SDK to see if it was ready for Public consumption...
Once it goes full public expect to see a FLOOD of Apps supporting CCast maybe even Games where the video displays on the TV but the phone or tablet just has control functions. Would open the door to much more sophisticated control options in the vain of what PC has been able to do via it's keyboard.
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Yes I can see some Smart TVs adding this capability natively at some point. Biggest user complaint they get is they hate the Menu and navigation on the TV and this might make it easier to create an App that would do all this for their TVs in a much better way!
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Yes, indeed. Lately, I have found myself wanting to use YouTube more and more on a big screen and, even though my TV is only 2 years old, navigating to the TV app is a painful experience.
I bought my Chromecast specifically for YouTube and for me it was worth the $35 just to be able to access it without having to trawl through the clunky TV menus Everything that came last week and the features still to come have been a has been a great bonus .
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Yes, indeed. Lately, I have found myself wanting to use YouTube more and more on a big screen and, even though my TV is only 2 years old, navigating to the TV app is a painful experience.
I bought my Chromecast specifically for YouTube and for me it was worth the $35 just to be able to access it without having to trawl through the clunky TV menus Everything that came last week and the features still to come have been a has been a great bonus .
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I tell my friends that if they can find one to avoid buying a smart TV since there are so many better ways to get that capability including just hooking a Computer to the Monitor.
But try and find a TV without it! LOL
Can we have a separate category for Chromecast 2020 ? The device is fundamentally different from previous versions as well as it has actual android TV/Google TV
I would agree with that. Chromecast 2020 is likely to generate great interest
I agree as well, this is a combined device that may need to be kept separate eventually to avoid confusion.
I agree as well, maybe calling it Sabrina Dongle
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I agree as well, maybe calling it Sabrina Dongle
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I would suggest just calling it Google TV
I didnt know it was code names Sabrina until last month when i did some research.
Android TV is currently what its known as, as this will get phased out with the new UI version Google TV.
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I would suggest just calling it Google TV.
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Can we have a separate category for Chromecast 2020 ?
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I would suggest just calling it Google TV
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When I hear "GoogleTV" I think of my 10 year old Visio CoStar which I became very aware that it was abandonware about 6 months after release. I think Google bringing the name back was foolish as AndroidTV didn't have the stink of abandonment on it and was slowly (very slowly) getting more recognition.
Android TV with Google TV luncher , Google TV on Chromecast, branding and confusion all over the place.
IMHO the best name for the section would be:
Google Chromecast 2020 (Sabrina)
No confusions here and addresses every part that identifies this device specifically.
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I would suggest just calling it Google TV
I didnt know it was code names Sabrina until last month when i did some research.
Android TV is currently what its known as, as this will get phased out with the new UI version Google TV.
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I absolutely hope not. Google TV UI sucks compared to Android TV. It's basically just a clone of FireTV... which the whole purpose is to sell you ads. The whole thing is setup like a gimmicky interface to make you accidentally click on crap you didn't intend for.
Edit- i take back everything i said about the chromecast 2020. i dont know what the hell was going on the night i set mine up. it was terrible. slow, and half the apps i tried to sideload wouldn't work. the next morning, without doing anything- just left it plugged in, it now works amazing. it does everything my nvidia shield does (even usb support with a Y adapter and hub). of course it wont play games like the shield, but thats not what i wanted it for. there is FINALLY an affordable alternative to the shield. this thing is by far the best Kodi device value wise. if you want gaming, get a shield. otherwise, a chromecast 2020 will do everything you need. the video quality is very good too. the shield with the AI upscaling and crazy good video filters is still better, but its a very close call.
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Not confusing at all, Chromecast with GoogleTV, but it's not a Chromecast, Chromecast runs an unnamed and unknown version of Android/ChromeOS, "Sabrina" run AndroidTV 10 and GoogleTV is only the launcher, because the GoogleTV OS died in 2014.
So, this device shouldn't be in the chromecast section, but in the AndroidTV.
It is actually this Chromecast section that seems out of place, as it itself is under Android TV.
A new section "Chromecast with Google TV" should be created, as this is what it is branded as ...
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It is actually this Chromecast section that seems out of place, as it itself is under Android TV.
A new section "Chromecast with Google TV" should be created, as this is what it is branded as ...
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True. Chromecast and AndroidTV are two different things.
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