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A Fine OS Google... a Fine OS

Amidst all the threads with 4.2 bashing and complaining and websites calling 4.2 the worst since Honeycomb, I wanted to just say that 4.2 is the best version of the OS to date. I've been sole on Android since 2009 with the Droid release and had experience since eclair. A major gripe I've always had with Android is that regular reboots were required to keep the system running efficiently. Custom Roms were required to have good features. But Android has matured to the point of greatness.
I have a De-Odexed version of 4.2 with not one reboot in over 100 hours on my Nexus 7 and Ive been draining the battery to at least 10% each day. (I use it a lot Lol). This is something I would never have been able to do on any other version of the OS. It is fast, stable and very efficient.
Way to go Google... Can't wait for the next one

Don't worry, it's always the same handful of whingers. Besides them, there are millions of satisfied owners...

If there were a company in the market who had changed their business model from innovation to litigation,
and they had more cash than any other company on earth,
you would think they might be spending some of that cash throwing up FUD for their competitors.
No one says they have to play fair.

Same here, really like and enjoy 4.2.
Of course there's a couple of bugs, esp. with new features, but that's nothing unusual and they will be fixed.
On another note: would you mind telling me how and what you used to deodex 4.2?
Wanna mess around again the ROM but the tools I got barely worked on 4.0 so can't even think of using them on 4.1 or even 4.2.... :-/
Appreciated

HellcatDroid said:
Same here, really like and enjoy 4.2.
Of course there's a couple of bugs, esp. with new features, but that's nothing unusual and they will be fixed.
On another note: would you mind telling me how and what you used to deodex 4.2?
Wanna mess around again the ROM but the tools I got barely worked on 4.0 so can't even think of using them on 4.1 or even 4.2.... :-/
Appreciated
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Its the Dev section....
The system apps are deodex but not framework...

CrazyPeter said:
Don't worry, it's always the same handful of whingers. Besides them, there are millions of satisfied owners...
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Whingers you say, funnily enough in the years I've been on XDA I've not come across as many people complaining about an Android update as I have about 4.2 but if you say everyone one of these people are *whingers* then it must be true eh
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I love 4.2.
Screw December! Damn month had quite the ego.
Overall I am very happy. I am 100% stock and not rooted and I don't seem to be having any issues other than December being gone.
Can't wait for the next one!
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I just prefer 4.1.2. I just haven't been whining about it all over the forum.
The only feature that I actually used on 4.2 was the keyboard. So I downgraded back to 4.1.2 and just flashed the keyboard. And 4.1.2 performs better on my device.

wpghtc said:
I love 4.2.
Screw December! Damn month had quite the ego.
Overall I am very happy. I am 100% stock and not rooted and I don't seem to be having any issues other than December being gone.
Can't wait for the next one!
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I love it. Chrome seems light years faster.

As much as I would love to give my thanks to google for this update I can not. I've been using android since cupcake and one of the biggest fans. Eleven different devices running android over the years. I am always one of the lucky ones and don't have the issues others complain about, untill now.
I've had my n7 since launch and it is the only android I never bothered to root as it was perfect from the start and I had little use for my rooted apps. After the ota I had constant hot reboots and a somewhat flawed ui (not that's a real complaint as much of that was supposed to happen) not to mention worse battery life and slower charges.
I was forced to root, and am happy I did, alrdeay running three different custom roms and pretty impresses, much more so than googles official 4.2 update
This is the first time that in my opinon the update was worse than the previous.
So I guess I like it as it finally made me root my n7!
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I quite like 4.2 the only thing I would like added is a restart option on the power button. Have had some random reboots but its nothing major for me and as apps get updated they are getting less frequent.
I don't think I have ever bashed a release version in over 3 years of solely using droid os.
Cursed a few custom ROMs tho
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wpghtc said:
I love 4.2.
Screw December! Damn month had quite the ego.
Overall I am very happy. I am 100% stock and not rooted and I don't seem to be having any issues other than December being gone.
Can't wait for the next one!
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December isn't gone. Run the stock calendar app and you'll see it just fine. The place where it's AWOL is in the "People" app.
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demkantor said:
As much as I would love to give my thanks to google for this update I can not. I've been using android since cupcake and one of the biggest fans. Eleven different devices running android over the years. I am always one of the lucky ones and don't have the issues others complain about, untill now.
I've had my n7 since launch and it is the only android I never bothered to root as it was perfect from the start and I had little use for my rooted apps. After the ota I had constant hot reboots and a somewhat flawed ui (not that's a real complaint as much of that was supposed to happen) not to mention worse battery life and slower charges.
I was forced to root, and am happy I did, alrdeay running three different custom roms and pretty impresses, much more so than googles official 4.2 update
This is the first time that in my opinon the update was worse than the previous.
So I guess I like it as it finally made me root my n7!
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Did you perform a full wipe after updating to 4.2. If not it might have been some incompatible apps making your n7 do the reboots and other things. By the way do you have an 8 or 16 GB n7? I have 16, and haven't had a single problem after updating.
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I dont feel like saying thanks google because its their job. and on one side am happy on the other i wait for 4.2.1 to fix all the bugs ..so its balanced

I haven't had an issue with performance at all did a clean install from a image and been great.
The only thing that I find useless are the " quick settings" cause they are not quick making a five step process into a four step process is not quick
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Brian, do you use a second multi user profile?
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A full wipe doesn't help. I did one before installing 4.2. I haven't had a reboot since I uninstalled HD Widgets, but it hasn't been that long. It may not be causing the problem, but it certainly does seem to make the problem come to the forefront.

Well I have noticed that HD widgets are fine until you use a lock screen widget then all hell breaks loose.
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Brian, do you use a second multi user profile?
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no

Am I to assume that the update for three nex7 I'd totally different than the one for the gnex? I mean I know they are totally different devices but I have a stock 4.2 rom on my phone and it's fine. Battery life is way better than the cm Rom I was running and I haven't had any problems.
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Upgrade time - How's the CM experience?

Upgrade just came up and I was considering getting the One. Loved CM10 on my Epic Touch 4G and was curious what the experience was like on this device. The button configuration seems odd on this phone so I wanted to get people's thoughts. Also, is the camera as bad as some say?
Thanks in advance.
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m4rk0358 said:
Upgrade just came up and I was considering getting the One. Loved CM10 on my Epic Touch 4G and was curious what the experience was like on this device. The button configuration seems odd on this phone so I wanted to get people's thoughts. Also, is the camera as bad as some say?
Thanks in advance.
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i say hold out until the next htc phone is announced

m4rk0358 said:
Upgrade just came up and I was considering getting the One. Loved CM10 on my Epic Touch 4G and was curious what the experience was like on this device. The button configuration seems odd on this phone so I wanted to get people's thoughts. Also, is the camera as bad as some say?
Thanks in advance.
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i say it's worth it, it's always gonna be a next fone if u keep waiting for the next new thing

ticklemepinks said:
i say it's worth it, it's always gonna be a next fone if u keep waiting for the next new thing
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But the HTC one is riddled with QC issues and doesn't really improve much over the last Gen of phones. The next Gen has snapdragon 800, 3000 mAh batteries and whatnot. Plus, the 800s are really close. Like the G2 is already here.
The One isn't that good IMHO. The camera is overhyped really and the number of defects people are reporting make this phone worth skipping.

To stay on track with your question the CM experience is something I don't think someone in their right mind would recomend. Hell it has a tendency to burn up some phones and need replaced.
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I agree if your sole decision is CM. Then wait. Cm was better on my gs3 than on here. It's pretty buggy and as has been said there are many reports of people's phones bricking cause of cm. To the quality control issue... I have had none, this phone has been great in that regard... But maybe I'm just lucky . In all honesty, overall this is the best phone I've ever owned. I don't think you'd go wrong with this phone.
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My $0.02:
For the short while I was able to use CM, I wasn't exactly blown away. It was exactly the same as my GS2, but with better specs. There were no extra features or anything. It looked nice with Black Infinitum, but again, not really different from my old phone. There were some bugs, so...
And you do have to watch out for the max freq lock, which will burn up your phone as it sits.
EDIT: However, CM Nemesis is coming soon. I would still wait for for a new device with better specs, but hey, this is a fairly new device.

Zor Omega said:
I agree if your sole decision is CM. Then wait. Cm was better on my gs3 than on here. It's pretty buggy and as has been said there are many reports of people's phones bricking cause of cm. To the quality control issue... I have had none, this phone has been great in that regard... But maybe I'm just lucky . In all honesty, overall this is the best phone I've ever owned. I don't think you'd go wrong with this phone.
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I really haven't had any issues since 10.1
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I used it for a week while on vacation and while it was nice to see a less bloated One with all the additional customization .. there were several issues and features that made me go back.
The biggest was GPS lock - I could not get a steady lock and if I did the radius was quite large, throwing me all over the map.
The phone actually seemed less responsive overall - including a slight delay when turning on the phone.
Missed the htc car app - google car and the ones from the market are not the same
and the IR - now it has only come in handy once, when my remote died; however, the remote can be fun at the bar

The HTCOne is a unique phone, the button layout is strange and is my biggest headache. Contrary to most posts above I like the CM experience on it better then sense, but this is my first (and only ever!) sense phone. I much prefer the AOSP experience. CM is lacking in a few places but core functionality is there and works good enough for me for daily use, for the record I'm on 10.2 20130819
Truthfully though I think I would wait for a new nexus device. I love the feel of the One in my hand but it's nothing amazing hardware wise.

You can always go GE and flash the CM mods.. GE is smooth as butter
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systemshock869 said:
You can always go GE and flash the CM mods.. GE is smooth as butter
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You can not flash GE and flash CM mods. GE is senseless but still Sense based. You will mess up your phone if you did that
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YoungCorruptionV2.0 said:
You can not flash GE and flash CM mods. GE is senseless but still Sense based. You will mess up your phone if you did that
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Aw man you're gonna make me look it up??
wrong. thanks for trying though
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Progress is being made. I just post a build in the 10.2 thread with working ir sensor.
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systemshock869 said:
Aw man you're gonna make me look it up??
wrong. thanks for trying though
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Those are mods made for GE (ported) not AOSP mods for CM
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No major issues for everyday use. I've been running nightlies since I got the phone. Battery life is awesome and no random reboots.

YoungCorruptionV2.0 said:
Those are mods made for GE (ported) not AOSP mods for CM
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Ok you lost me.. Did you click the link??
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Just a quick check guys.
Does the music still sound wonky? 10.1 would make my songs really quiet then normal then quiet etc. It drove me crazy.
Also, does the wake still take like a second? That was also a problem with 10.1.

sauprankul said:
Just a quick check guys.
Does the music still sound wonky? 10.1 would make my songs really quiet then normal then quiet etc. It drove me crazy.
Also, does the wake still take like a second? That was also a problem with 10.1.
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On CM last I tried yeah. On GE.. No.
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the.emilio said:
On CM last I tried yeah. On GE.. No.
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Well crap. Thanks though. Are these even recognized issues?

Wind of change.

So.... Being a Samsung Galaxy S user for long time, I came to the point where don't feel "fresh" with my phone. I came to conclusion that need change. Tried some launchers, but doesn't feel cool. So now I decided to change my "baby". The two phones I narrowed are HTC one or Sony Z. Do you think guys I am doing right or stick with my S3 (and wait for 4.3)? Any input appreciated...
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Try NOVA launcher
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Oh man... Tried most of them. Anyway, today picked up M7 ,so play time. Not much excitement as had it before, but hoping for some outcome, to help me decide which to keep...
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as Nyrus say use other launcher ..i prefer also Nova launcher pro or Apex launcher pro.. and you can done so much with it include if you use other app like uccw etc... if you take some time to managed your homeacreen on phone and need some idea or help here is the link of site http://mycolorscreen.com/ there are also finish work need little tweak and you can use they way you want ... changed the phone give you nothing special as near by all Android os are the same .

h-e-a-v-e-n said:
as Nyrus say use other launcher ..i prefer also Nova launcher pro or Apex launcher pro.. and you can done so much with it include if you use other app like uccw etc... if you take some time to managed your homeacreen on phone and need some idea or help here is the link of site http://mycolorscreen.com/ there are also finish work need little tweak and you can use they way you want ... changed the phone give you nothing special as near by all Android os are the same .
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Agree with you. As mentioned before I picked up HTC One today. Basically is the same ( meaning OS), but somehow feel better...Right now preparing to flash GE ROM,as I'm not a fan of Blinkfeed and "limited" customisation. Tbh,my S3 LTE never gave me any issue (touchwood!), so probably will keep both phones... My point is that with M7 GE will get faster updates, and hopefully smooth experience. Also I'm not fancy all the "extras" supplied with both devices (Touchwizz/Sense). Thankfully, few apps/widgets are available from play store,so will see how it goes...
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Other "hidden" thing is,that Samsung will not provide same treatment as for the 9300. The 9305 isn't so widely available thus support could be "neglected"...
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OK, first negative thing: battery much worse than S3. Have almost identical settings,but HTC down to 21% while S3 still on 58%...
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Did you hear about Xposed? Try this...
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Nyrus said:
Did you hear about Xposed? Try this...
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Yeah,I know about Xposed. I let go the Sony Z and now focusing on two devices only, the One and S3 LTE. Will do play with the One and then decide which to keep. Might keep both...
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Ok, so after a week with the HTC I came back to Samsung S3 LTE. Don't know why, but Sammy just feel right for me.
Guys thanks for all your comments and suggestions.
I am not a Samsung fan boy, but from my point of view Samsung is the best (at least for my needs).
So sticking with S3, skipping S4, but looking forward to S5, which will have non plastic body (hopefully)....

Gear any good?

Hi All.
Juat git the note3. Thinking about the gear but heard some dodgy reviews..whats the verdict?
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Verdict is that for the "version 1" device Samsung made great hardware - much better than anything else available on the market like sony, pebble, etc
and for the firmware - using rom developed by fOmey the functionality is GREAT - much better than the stock rom. It is all related to Your local preferences, but in fact with the custom rom You are getting miniature tablet! Read the ROM thread - at least OP and You will see how much had been achieved just in one month.
I really like the device, and the functionality superb!

It was kinda boring stock, but it's pretty awesome rooted.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2515696
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personally it's not smart watch as you think. I really didn't like it that much. lache bugs
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Its awesome.. don't listen to these idiot reviewers
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It's very good stock with the latest update, it's unlimited with the null firmware. The future of the gear owners is great because we have no knox trigger, no region lock, we have root we have twrp and a great rom developer. And we have ( semms so..) the attention of samsung regarding the updates/improvements.
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daz_2000 said:
Hi All.
Juat git the note3. Thinking about the gear but heard some dodgy reviews..whats the verdict?
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With respect this is am impossible question to answer. Read the specifications and if it fits your requirements then it will be fine for you. Its totally subjective and down to personal taste and what your expectations are. No single person can answer your question only you.
For example why did you purchase the note 3? That is also a very personal taste and again a subjective purchase.
I have owned them both from day one and so far enjoy them though neither are special in my own opinion (again subjective). They do what I require of them so they fit the bill in my case. I dislike the quality of construction of the note 3 and the GG could potentially have some issues with moisture. Read the threads here and providing you use caution with the GG you may enjoy it? Some don't some do.

Minimal rom options was development planned to be so minimal?

It's so strange as good of a phone as the s6 is and still a relatively recent release in comparison the s4 S5 seen way more development in less time then the little that the s6 has seen .
Is there a reason for this ?
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Divine_Madcat said:
While the kernel itself is open source per the GPL, many of the Samsung specific drivers are NOT open sourced, and released as compliled blobs; these are specifically build for touchwiz, making it extremely difficult to run any kind of AOSP that would work with the touchwiz kernel
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I like the theory ,but your way out of context with that reply ... my question was in regards to TWIZ roms themes mods and development
Not aosp OR CM dev !
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I quoted someone.
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Could be that mostly everyone is on the international threads. Just look at their development threads, and it all works on our devices
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serio22 said:
Could be that mostly everyone is on the international threads. Just look at their development threads, and it all works on our devices
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This. I found that international ROMs are much better. You lose WiFi calling which can be useful but I found it detrimental to battery life. All T-Mobile based ROMs sucked at battery life for me. Averaging 2-3 hours screen on time at most. As soon as I switched to international I got 4-6 hours screen on time on average with a daily cycle of 22-26 hours.
Much better. Try them out.

H3adru5H said:
This. I found that international ROMs are much better. You lose WiFi calling which can be useful but I found it detrimental to battery life. All T-Mobile based ROMs sucked at battery life for me. Averaging 2-3 hours screen on time at most. As soon as I switched to international I got 4-6 hours screen on time on average with a daily cycle of 22-26 hours.
Much better. Try them out.
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I actually found that T-Mobile Roms work just as good for me with great battery life up to par with international Roms, even with VoLTE and wifi calling on all the time. But yes, they are still great
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