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someone told me it is possible to jtag my moto x runnong 4.4.2 in order to make it a dev edition , but said tht after i would not recevie any updtae which is fine ............is this possible and if so could someone direct me on how to or refer me to site tht tells me how
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someone told me it is possible to jtag my moto x runnong 4.4.2 in order to make it a dev edition , but said tht after i would not recevie any updtae which is fine ............is this possible and if so could someone direct me on how to or refer me to site tht tells me how
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I have not heard of that.
Besides the physical appearance, when it comes to the difference between the "Developer Edition" and Retail or Moto Maker edition, the only difference is unlocking the bootloader on the Dev Edition doesn't void the warranty, but on the "non-Dev" it does void the warranty.
For the most part, Motorola gives the bootloader unlock code away for free on their web site, along with the instructions to unlock. The exception being in the case of a few carriers like ATT, Verizon and Republic Wireless, where for what appears to be carrier requirements, they do NOT give out the code.
If you have ATT, VZW or Republic Wireless, and have an X built in 2014, see the China Middle Man is back thread in the general section about getting a bootloader unlock code from the only way possible at this time. But yes, it does void the warranty
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I have not heard of that.
Besides the physical appearance, when it comes to the difference between the "Developer Edition" and Retail or Moto Maker edition, the only difference is unlocking the bootloader on the Dev Edition doesn't void the warranty, but on the "non-Dev" it does void the warranty.
For the most part, Motorola gives the bootloader unlock code away for free on their web site, along with the instructions to unlock. The exception being in the case of a few carriers like ATT, Verizon and Republic Wireless, where for what appears to be carrier requirements, they do NOT give out the code.
If you have ATT, VZW or Republic Wireless, and have an X built in 2014, see the China Middle Man is back thread in the general section about getting a bootloader unlock code from the only way possible at this time. But yes, it does void the warranty
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thank you for your response I do know that the unlocking the bootloader voids the warranty but again I ask is there any way to JTAG in order to unlock for att or verizonhas anyone looked into that and how reliable are the Chinese middleman for unlocking the bootloader
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thank you for your response I do know that the unlocking the bootloader voids the warranty but again I ask is there any way to JTAG in order to unlock for att or verizonhas anyone looked into that and how reliable are the Chinese middleman for unlocking the bootloader
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I have seen NOTHING on using JTAG to unlock the bootloader on the Moto X.
Since its release, the only way to UNLOCK the Bootloader on the X has been to get the unlock code.
How reliable is the middle man? Just read that thread. If the build date on your phone is 2014, you will likely be able to get a code. The middle man doesn't have "real time access" to the database containing the unlock codes, so if your phone was built a week ago, you might have to wait. As long as you meet those conditions, you'll likely get your code. In cases where the middle man didn't have the code, he's refunded the money.
Hi...someone can help me?
I have bootloader unlocked and root. If.i do update for 4.4.3 version i lost root??
hawkdown77 said:
Hi...someone can help me?
I have bootloader unlocked and root. If.i do update for 4.4.3 version i lost root??
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Nope. Not if the bootloader is unlocked...
Good Luck
hawkdown77 said:
Hi...someone can help me?
I have bootloader unlocked and root. If.i do update for 4.4.3 version i lost root??
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You might, but with an unlocked bootlaoder you can easily re-root at any time.
I have a moto x xt1053 that i can't open the Boot loader on Motorola web page, coz is not allowed for my device as Motorola support said to me, coz is not a dev edition.
I want to install CM11 or later, it is possible without opening the Boot loader?
TIA
What is your current android version? Have you looked at unlocking via sunshine?
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What is your current android version? Have you looked at unlocking via sunshine?
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Im on 4.4.4, i tried sunshine, and wrote with the supporter of sunshine and they told me they cant unlock it...
Sucks man sounds like you are screwed.
What carrier was it originally associated with? The XT1053 was used for T-Mobile in the US and was unlockable. I believe XT1053 was also used for the Dev Edition for AT&T in the US, while their retail edition was XT1058.
My friend has an XT1053 for T-Mobile that was not a developer edition, it was customized with Moto Maker and I unlocked it for him from the Motorola website.
Are you sure you have an XT1053?
Thats the same phone like your friend. My friend bought it online on the moto maker home page.
Well my friend tried many times but without success...
Can you give me some advice... @fury683 TIA
iSplassh said:
Thats the same phone like your friend. My friend bought it online on the moto maker home page.
Well my friend tried many times but without success...
Can you give me some advice... @fury683 TIA
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If it's Tmobile, keep trying the Moto unlock site. It is very glitch send can take many tries. ?
iSplassh said:
I have a moto x xt1053 that i can't open the Boot loader on Motorola web page, coz is not allowed for my device as Motorola support said to me, coz is not a dev edition.
I want to install CM11 or later, it is possible without opening the Boot loader?
TIA
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The non-Developer Edition XT1053 was also bootloader Unlockable via Moto's web site but it voids the warranty.
If your XT1053 is the "GSM Unlocked (ships with T-Mobile SIM)" or "GSM unlocked (ships with Net 10 SIM)" it should still be bootloader unlockable via Moto's web site.
A few things...
Try a different browser. If you are using Chome, try IE instead, or vice versa.
Take the output from the get_unlock_data command, and paste it into NOTEPAD (if you use windows) on your PC... Turn Word Wrap OFF. Edit out the spaces and any carriage returns so the string is one single line, and then copy the edited string to the clip board to paste into the web site.
If the phone is less than a week old, keep trying. There have been issues/delays with the codes being available on the Moto web site.
Try signing into the Moto site using the original email address used to purchase the phone (i.e. your friend purchased, then have your friend use his/her email to try requesting the code)
Call Moto's support. If they refuse to help, or tell you that you can't unlock your bootloader, point them to -> https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/87215 which says the T-Mobile X (XT1053) CAN be bootloader unlocked (but voids the warranty).
Take a look at this thread in the Peer to Peer Moto Owners forum -> https://forums.motorola.com/posts/f2061da875
Thanks for your time.
I checked the peer to peer forum but my CID is different, its not on the list. Mine is 0x09.
I already contacted 2 different moto customer support, i gave them the IMEI code and they told me its not unlockable, because its not dev edition. The also said the unlockable boot loader program is only for dev edition.
Xda was my last hope because the official way didn't brought me anyway further.
Sorry for my bad english, and hope you guys have still some tips for me
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Thanks for your time.
I checked the peer to peer forum but my CID is different, its not on the list. Mine is 0x09.
I already contacted 2 different moto customer support, i gave them the IMEI code and they told me its not unlockable, because its not dev edition. The also said the unlockable boot loader program is only for dev edition.
Xda was my last hope because the official way didn't brought me anyway further.
Sorry for my bad english, and hope you guys have still some tips for me
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0x0009 is on the list in the Owners forum (0x0009 = 0x09) as being UNLOCKABLE (is in the list on the left). The list on the left says "Your device is unlockable if the CID value returned is" and 0x09 is under that headding.
ANd the reps told you WRONG. Their web site lists Rogers Canada, they use the XT1058. For USA it lists Sprint (which is XT1056), USC (is XT1055 i think), and TMO (is definitely XT1053 but not considered Dev Edition).
There are only TWO Developer Editions... GSM and "for Verizon". Verizon is an XT1060. There is NO Dev Edition for Sprint, USC, Rogers Canada, or Latin America, yet those are listed on -> https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/87215 as being UNLOCKABLE.
Please follow the instructions on the Moto Owners Forum. Do the steps and post the info. See what they say.
Finally we unlocked it. It took us some time chatting with moto supporters till 2AM in the morning but we did it.
Thanks a lot guys
iSplassh said:
Finally we unlocked it. It took us some time chatting with moto supporters till 2AM in the morning but we did it.
Thanks a lot guys
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Awesome. Glad to hear it!
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Awesome. Glad to hear it!
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Sorry to bother you again but do you have any tips on how to root it now. The phone its on 4.4.4. Can i just use CF-Autoroot or do i have to downgrade to 4.4.2? I have read that downgrading brings to Precam brick...
What do you recomand me?
TIA
1. Download the latest SuperSU.zip onto the phone or computer
2. download a recovery onto a computer
3. Flash the recovery in bootloader using fastboot
4. Boot into recovery using the Vol+ button to select option
5. If SuperSU.zip was downloaded to computer, use adb to push the zip file to /sdcard flash SuperSu.zip. If not, skip to step 6.
6. Flash SuperSU.zip in recovery
7. Reboot into system
Remember what having an unlocked bootloader allows you to do, this process isn't much different from any other device with an unlocked bootloader. Why would you do anything other than the steps I listed above with an unlocked bootloader? Read up on what downgrading can and will do to our phone.
iSplassh said:
Sorry to bother you again but do you have any tips on how to root it now. The phone its on 4.4.4. Can i just use CF-Autoroot or do i have to downgrade to 4.4.2? I have read that downgrading brings to Precam brick...
What do you recomand me?
TIA
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You have to keep in mind there are some old threads for those with LOCKED bootloaders who want to root which will not apply to you. Some of those OLDER processes recomend downgrading, BUT that was only safe during the SlapMyMoto process (downgrading from 4.4 to 4.2.2 w/camera due to NOT CHANGE in the bootloader and gpt.bin). Once 4.4.2, 4.4.3 or 4.4.4 is on your phone, DOWNGRADING IS NOT SAFE!!! AND NOT RECOMMENDED!!!! due to the high rate of bricks it has caused.
After unlocking your bootloader, the best way to root is to see -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/mot...-unlocking-t2649738/post54796193#post54796193
Thanks for the info this helped me out!
Ok so sorry if this has already been posted but I can't find anything. This is my first attempt at rooting. I am trying to root my 2014 Moto x. I am on US cellular so I believe the model is XT1093. Not sure though as this seems to be missing from settings in lollipop. I tried a root tutorial for xt1097 but did not work. There is no OEM unlock setting in my Developer options. I think I have to unlock my bootloader through Motorola but havn't been successful.. any help would be greatly appreciated.
Andrew
I've got the same problem here I think it's a US Cellular problem with what they eliminated from lollipop but I can't be sure looking everywhere but can't find any answers. I wish we could get some help with this though would love to unlock and root this thing.
Yea, I think your right about it being a US Cellular thing. No one else seems to have the problem and US Cellular is a unique model number (XT1093 vs 1095 or 1097). Iv tried to unlock the bootlader through motos web cite which should work but I'm having some difficulties. I entered the info from my device, it said it was able to be unlocked and gave me the unlock key. but when I entered the key I got an error. Not sure if I'm doing something wrong or they are.. Still working on it..
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Yea, I think your right about it being a US Cellular thing. No one else seems to have the problem and US Cellular is a unique model number (XT1093 vs 1095 or 1097). Iv tried to unlock the bootlader through motos web cite which should work but I'm having some difficulties. I entered the info from my device, it said it was able to be unlocked and gave me the unlock key. but when I entered the key I got an error. Not sure if I'm doing something wrong or they are.. Still working on it..
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What command are you using to unlock your bootloader with the key? And what error are you getting?
I've tried the unlock method from Motorola. It all works until it prompts you to check the box in developing. options that says unlock oem functions. On the 1093 in lollipop the dev. option is not there. Also tried the tool kit in this forum that is made for non pure phones... It works great... even tells you your phone is unlocked but it doesn't finish. What I mean is it doesn't reboot your phone and the phone is still locked. Really frustrating ? Any help or ideas are very welcome. PLEASE HELP!
Is there a way to root the phone without unlocking? Cause if we could... We could try a different rom and see if from there we could find the unlock box in the developer options.
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Is there a way to root the phone without unlocking? Cause if we could... We could try a different rom and see if from there we could find the unlock box in the developer options.
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There's no such thing as "Unlock/ Unlock OEM functions" in developer options, in any ROM, ever.
Just found this.. Apparently Nexus 6 & 9 have this additional step to unlock the bootloader. I didn't have to do this while unlocking my device whilst on lollipop. So I'm gonna assume it's possible to unlock the bootloader on your device if this option is missing from the Developer Options..
Follow the procedure on motorola's website to unlock the bootloader and report back with the error you see on the online tool, or the actual device.
P.S - voids your warranty, unless you have a dev device
It doesn't give an error per say... It tells you to go to dev options and check the box or click on the option to unlock oem. Of course it's not there so the program will not execute the unlock. It says waiting for device....
Golfmech said:
It doesn't give an error per say... It tells you to go to dev options and check the box or click on the option to unlock oem. Of course it's not there so the program will not execute the unlock. It says waiting for device....
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Has there been any more insight on this?
After updating to 5.1, OEM unlock is in developer options now
Hi All,
I currently have an XT1053 on Lycamobile (T-Mobile MVNO). I rooted it when I got it, have a custom recovery, ROM, xposed framework, XPrivacy, titanium backup. It's been 1.5 years so I'm rusty on how I did it before.
I'd like to move to Verizon pre-paid so I'm looking to buy a used phone. I want to end up with the same capabilities - root, custom ROM, etc.
I'm thinking I should get a Dev edition Verizon Moto-X so that I can get the unlock code from Motorola. In order to reduce chances of issues/bricking, is there are particular version of Android the phone should already have? Anything else I should be looking for?
Thanks,
Mark
From what I have been able to find by looking at a bunch of threads, it looks like I need to look for a Developer phone with Android 4.4.2.
What else am I maybe missing?
Thanks,
Mark
For the Dev Edition it doesn't matter what version you're on, you can root no matter what.
markd89 said:
From what I have been able to find by looking at a bunch of threads, it looks like I need to look for a Developer phone with Android 4.4.2.
What else am I maybe missing?
Thanks,
Mark
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The only reason you would need 4.4.2 for easy unlocking is if you were on a non-developer edition phone and were using Sunshine. Dev editions can be unlocked, flashed, and rooted quite easily. Non-developer editions though, you want to be on an earlier release of Android, although there is a root method for 4.4.4 now, so you may still be able to unlock the bootloader.
markd89 said:
....I'd like to move to Verizon pre-paid so I'm looking to buy a used phone. I want to end up with the same capabilities - root, custom ROM, etc.
I'm thinking I should get a Dev edition Verizon Moto-X so that I can get the unlock code from Motorola. In order to reduce chances of issues/bricking, is there are particular version of Android the phone should already have? Anything else I should be looking for?
Thanks,
Mark
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Unlocking the bootloader is needed to run a custom rom, custom recovery, etc. and to ensure the ability to root no matter what ROM is on your phone.
Stick with a Developer Edition XT11060 for Verizon. You can get the bootloader unlock code directly from Motorola, for free.
If you get a RETAIL or Moto Maker variant, so long as the phone was never updated to 4.4.4 or higher, you can use Sunshine to unlock its bootloader. BUT Sunshine relies on exploiting a vulnerability to unlock the bootloader. There has been some question on if the vulnerability will be patched in Lollipop and could that pose any issues for those who used Sunshine to unlock. Will it re-lock them or will the unlocked status survive, etc? I have not seen a definitive answer.
While there is a ROOT method for a certain 4.4.4 build for non-Dev Verizon XT1060, that wont allow you to flash a custom rom or recovery, and it doesn't turn off write protection so there are some limits.
Thanks Gents, very helpful.
Is there any downside to getting a Moto X Developer that is already rooted? I'd still be able to contact Motorola for the unlock if I needed it again, right?
Thanks,
Mark
Thanks for bringing this up OP. I have a Verizon Note 4 and quite frankly I'm tired of the size and it's the longest I've been without root. Not to mention the lag with the TouchWiz lollipop build is driving me crazy. I now want a smaller (sorry Nexus 6) bootloader unlocked rootable android phone. After getting a pre-paid moto g to play around with I'm digging the smaller size and the resolution is more than acceptable. The Moto G should be even better.
I initially looked at the 2014 X but Verizon never released a developer model. My only hesitation to the 2013 is Android M. Is that coming to the 2013 X? And do people here have experience buying refurbished 2013 developer Xs from ebay. Pretty cheap around $110 to $150.
markd89 said:
Is there any downside to getting a Moto X Developer that is already rooted? I'd still be able to contact Motorola for the unlock if I needed it again, right?
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To clarify - if I get phone that's already unlocked because the previous owner got the code from Motorola, would I be able to contact Motorola in the future for the unlock code if I needed to re-unlock the phone or do they only give that out once?
Thanks much,
Mark
markd89 said:
To clarify - if I get phone that's already unlocked because the previous owner got the code from Motorola, would I be able to contact Motorola in the future for the unlock code if I needed to re-unlock the phone or do they only give that out once?
Thanks much,
Mark
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Developer editions come SIM Unlocked to begin with.
Saythis said:
Developer editions come SIM Unlocked to begin with.
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OK, I was under the impression that they come bootloader locked so that I would need an unlock to achieve root. Am I mistaken?
markd89 said:
To clarify - if I get phone that's already unlocked because the previous owner got the code from Motorola, would I be able to contact Motorola in the future for the unlock code if I needed to re-unlock the phone or do they only give that out once?
Thanks much,
Mark
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OK, I was under the impression that they come bootloader locked so that I would need an unlock to achieve root. Am I mistaken?
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People often get SIM unlocked (aka carrier unlocked) confused with bootloader unlocked when someone just says "unlocked"
The Verizon XT1060, Developer Edition or Retail/Moto Maker are SIM Unlocked (aka carrier unlocked) out of the box due to FCC 700 C-Block rules.
All 2013 X's ship as bootloader locked. The ATT XT1058, Republic Wireless XT1049 and Verizon Retail/Moto Maker XT1060 editions can not get the bootloader unlock code from Moto. The rest, including the Developer Edition XT1060 for Verizon, CAN.
Once bootloader unlocked using the code from Moto, the phone will stay that way unless you re-lock it. However, keep in mind there are 3 states of the 2013 X bootloader Locked Status 0 (as it ships from factory), Unlocked Status 3 (after you unlock via the code), and LOCKED Status 2 (aka relocked). We as users can not toggle it back to Status 0. Because we can't get back to Status 0, there is no real reason to try and relock. The "bootloader unlocked" warning message shows when status is NOT 0. *IF* you buy a used XT1060 Dev Edition where the previous owner as re-locked the bootloader, you will need the code to unlock it. The codes are unique to each phone.
I have no experience requesting the bootloader unlock code from moto for a USED phone, so I can't be of any help answering that question.
I purchased a used xt1060 dev that the previous owner had relocked the bootloader....not sure why. I was able to get a unlock code from Motorola no problem.
Sent from my XT1060 using Tapatalk
Thanks, all!
I have my used Dev Moto X Verizon on order and look forward to the XDA fun when I get it
So the folks on this forum are my last hope before I give up. I bought an XT1049 on ebay (I know, mistake!) because I wanted to try Republic Wireless, and the phone has KitKat running on it - far superior to Lollipop on the Moto X in my opinion. I got the phone - great condition, and KitKat was everything I remembered (silky smooth, much longer battery time) vs. the laggy dog of Lollipop I have on my old Moto X. This should be great, right? Wrong. Turns out it's not a RW phone. Says XT1049 on the back, when I plug it into my laptop it says XT1049, but after emails with RW support and community, this is not an RW phone. The ROM is different and they don't recognize the IMEI. Sigh....
Take it to AT&T store and a Metro PCS store to see if I can get it to work on either of their networks. Guy at Metro PCS pops in a sim card, changes out Access Point Names, then tells me the phone is "network locked", and he can't do anything for me. He said it's possible to unlock it, but I'd have to know what network it was locked by. Well, it's not RW, but I don't know who or what to do at this point.
The System Version is 161.44.38.ghost_row.ACGLTE.en.US, which I've found is "ACG Regional Carriers" - which seems like bad news to me. I don't think that network - or collection of networks - would work for me in any reasonable way.
So my question - is there any way I can get this phone unlocked to work on a legit GSM network like AT&T, or preferably T-mobile? Or am I just chasing my tail and need to take this as a lesson learned? The phone works remarkably well, so I don't want to brick it. I can use it as a secondary phone at home - just with no data/calls. But I would love to find a way to use this if I can figure a way to unlock this.
Thanks in advance for your help! (I realized this should be posted in the Q&A section, but can't seem to find a way to delete this or move to Q&A.)
Is your device bootloader was unlocked?
Try to unlock the bootloader if it will unlocked so there was a chance to use this phone with gsm
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Shahzaib Jahangir
Thanks, Shabby! I finally got time to do this. Yes, my bootloader can be unlocked. I'm a total noob to this though, so really don't know what to do next. I haven't unlocked yet, just got the email from Motorola with my Unlock code.
Any guidance you can provide for unlocking GSM would be greatly appreciated!
Is your phone asking for code?
kmsnc said:
Thanks, Shabby! I finally got time to do this. Yes, my bootloader can be unlocked. I'm a total noob to this though, so really don't know what to do next. I haven't unlocked yet, just got the email from Motorola with my Unlock code.
Any guidance you can provide for unlocking GSM would be greatly appreciated!
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Is your device bootloader was unlocked?
Try to unlock the bootloader if it will unlocked so there was a chance to use this phone with gsm
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Shahzaib Jahangir
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you unlock this unlock ?
i'm confused because xt1049 file is working but xt1056 file is also working so any solution ?
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Saad Aslam