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Guys,i have Retail 1058 Moto X with unlocked Bootloader,TWRP(latest and rooted) and i want to upgrade to 4.4.2!
Some guys already received the 4.4.2 brazilian update via OTA,and extracted the zip file,but,since im on custom recovery,the OTA doesnt reboot the phone into stock and go straight to TWRP,therefore,doesnt conclude the update,and keep restarting!
Since i need the phone,i did a factory reset via TWRP just to get things going!
But,i want to upgrade to 4.4.2!
Is there a way to do that?remove TWRP ou something else?
I've seen some people saying that i need to flash the 4.4 img which it is inside the zip but,i dont have that zip anymore!
Thx in advance!
msespindola said:
Guys,i have Retail 1058 Moto X with unlocked Bootloader,TWRP(latest and rooted) and i want to upgrade to 4.4.2!
Some guys already received the 4.4.2 brazilian update via OTA,and extracted the zip file,but,since im on custom recovery,the OTA doesnt reboot the phone into stock and go straight to TWRP,therefore,doesnt conclude the update,and keep restarting!
Since i need the phone,i did a factory reset via TWRP just to get things going!
But,i want to upgrade to 4.4.2!
Is there a way to do that?remove TWRP ou something else?
I've seen some people saying that i need to flash the 4.4 img which it is inside the zip but,i dont have that zip anymore!
Thx in advance!
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if you take the 4.4.2 update you will loose root and wont be able to get it back till who knows when.
but you need to flash your phone back to 100% stock just like you did when root your device but instead of using the 4.2.2 CU firmware use the 4.4
here is all the firmware for the Moto X
http://sbf.droid-developers.org/phone.php?device=0
your device is a Att model so you should be able to flash the ATT 4.4 firmware but im not 100% sure but maybe you will find your carrier listed there.
dray_jr said:
if you take the 4.4.2 update you will loose root and wont be able to get it back till who knows when.
but you need to flash your phone back to 100% stock just like you did when root your device but instead of using the 4.2.2 CU firmware use the 4.4
here is all the firmware for the Moto X
http://sbf.droid-developers.org/phone.php?device=0
your device is a Att model so you should be able to flash the ATT 4.4 firmware but im not 100% sure but maybe you will find your carrier listed there.
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yeah,i know,aware of loosing root,but,mine is retail,and i've found the brazilian retail one(Blur_Version.143.44.8.ghost_row.Brasil.en.BR)!
How do i revert back to stock?never done that before!
Thx for the help so far buddy
msespindola said:
yeah,i know,aware of loosing root,but,mine is retail,and i've found the brazilian retail one(Blur_Version.143.44.8.ghost_row.Brasil.en.BR)!
How do i revert back to stock?never done that before!
Thx for the help so far buddy
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2446515
there are two ways in this guide i like the manual way. but your choice make sure you read everything because if you do this wrong you can brick.
dray_jr said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2446515
there are two ways in this guide i like the manual way. but your choice make sure you read everything because if you do this wrong you can brick.
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Okay buddy,will take a look when i get home from work!
One questiona buddy managed to get the fastboot img for me,if i just flash the stock recovery img and then try to update will it work?
msespindola said:
Okay buddy,will take a look when i get home from work!
One questiona buddy managed to get the fastboot img for me,if i just flash the stock recovery img and then try to update will it work?
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idk i dont like to doing things half way there have been way to many bricks lately.
If he has an unlocked bootloader, why would he not be able to get root back?
I thought when the bootloader was unlocked you had free reign over the device. Shouldn't he be able to upgrade to 4.4.2 and use SU and TWRP to get root back? I don't get why he wouldn't be able to do that.
Flash 4.4.2
Flash TWRP via mfastboot
Install SU zip via TWRP
Boot
Install SU app
What am I missing?
Sent from my Dev Edition Moto X
Schaweet said:
If he has an unlocked bootloader, why would he not be able to get root back?
I thought when the bootloader was unlocked you had free reign over the device. Shouldn't he be able to upgrade to 4.4.2 and use SU and TWRP to get root back? I don't get why he wouldn't be able to do that.
Flash 4.4.2
Flash TWRP via mfastboot
Install SU zip via TWRP
Boot
Install SU app
What am I missing?
Sent from my Dev Edition Moto X
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this is why i dont read on my phone i miss crap anyway if you flash 4.4.2 yes you can flash the 4.4 TWRP and then SuperSU with a unlocked bootloader.. sorry for my miss read thanks for the catch
dray_jr said:
idk i dont like to doing things half way there have been way to many bricks lately.
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Schaweet said:
If he has an unlocked bootloader, why would he not be able to get root back?
I thought when the bootloader was unlocked you had free reign over the device. Shouldn't he be able to upgrade to 4.4.2 and use SU and TWRP to get root back? I don't get why he wouldn't be able to do that.
Flash 4.4.2
Flash TWRP via mfastboot
Install SU zip via TWRP
Boot
Install SU app
What am I missing?
Sent from my Dev Edition Moto X
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Thx guys, I'll do this later, thx for the awesome responses
Sent from my XT1058 using xda app-developers app
dray_jr said:
idk i dont like to doing things half way there have been way to many bricks lately.
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Can someone else please chime in on this? I have a Dev Edition VZW Moto X, and when the 4.4.2 update is finally available, I want to know what to do. My phone is unlocked & rooted with TWRP installed. Can I just flash the factory recovery and then take the OTA? Or do I have to revert to 100% stock? If I only flash stock recovery and take the OTA, data won't be wiped, will it? That is the big reason I would like to avoid going back to 100% stock if I can.
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Can someone else please chime in on this? I have a Dev Edition VZW Moto X, and when the 4.4.2 update is finally available, I want to know what to do. My phone is unlocked & rooted with TWRP installed. Can I just flash the factory recovery and then take the OTA? Or do I have to revert to 100% stock? If I only flash stock recovery and take the OTA, data won't be wiped, will it? That is the big reason I would like to avoid going back to 100% stock if I can.
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My hope is that someone on here will repackage the OTA for us to sideload. That would be the best case scenario.
If not, I think you just need a stock recovery, but I could be wrong. I've seen someone say you need to flash stock system as well. I have the same questions as you if we don't get a side loadable zip.
Sent from my Dev Edition Moto X
Schaweet said:
My hope is that someone on here will repackage the OTA for us to sideload. That would be the best case scenario.
If not, I think you just need a stock recovery, but I could be wrong. I've seen someone say you need to flash stock system as well. I have the same questions as you if we don't get a side loadable zip.
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It's not the end of the world if I have to wipe data and restore everything from TiBu, but it's still a PITA I would like to avoid if possible. More importantly, I don't want to run into any issues when installed the update. So if there is any question as to whether stock recovery alone is sufficient for the update to install properly, I will probably go back to full stock to be safe. I guess I have some time to let smarter people figure it out, since there is no update for VZW yet.
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It's not the end of the world if I have to wipe data and restore everything from TiBu, but it's still a PITA I would like to avoid if possible. More importantly, I don't want to run into any issues when installed the update. So if there is any question as to whether stock recovery alone is sufficient for the update to install properly, I will probably go back to full stock to be safe. I guess I have some time to let smarter people figure it out, since there is no update for VZW yet.
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What I've read is you need to go back to stock recovery and also make sure any /system files are unchanged. For example I renamed my old exchange apk's (in /system/app) when I put in the new ones from the nexus 5 on 4.4.2, so I would need to name those files back.
NPOA556 said:
It's not the end of the world if I have to wipe data and restore everything from TiBu, but it's still a PITA I would like to avoid if possible. More importantly, I don't want to run into any issues when installed the update. So if there is any question as to whether stock recovery alone is sufficient for the update to install properly, I will probably go back to full stock to be safe. I guess I have some time to let smarter people figure it out, since there is no update for VZW yet.
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I'm sure some nice developer will help us along.
What have you done to take you off of stock?
I just have custom recovery and xposed. Xposed shouldn't cause any issues.
Sent from my Dev Edition Moto X
Schaweet said:
I'm sure some nice developer will help us along.
What have you done to take you off of stock?
I just have custom recovery and xposed. Xposed shouldn't cause any issues.
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I guess nothing, other than TWRP, Xposed, and obviously root. I have seen several people say that you have to unroot before installed an OTA, but I don't know if that applies to the Dev X or just the standard version. A lot of people seem to indicate that you have to go back to stock, so I just want to clarify what is really required.
NPOA556 said:
I guess nothing, other than TWRP, Xposed, and obviously root. I have seen several people say that you have to unroot before installed an OTA, but I don't know if that applies to the Dev X or just the standard version. A lot of people seem to indicate that you have to go back to stock, so I just want to clarify what is really required.
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Good questions. I'm not sure. We certainly root differently than a non Dev edition. They might have some files modified that we don't have to modify. Also, I wonder is going to stock recovery will unroot us.
I guess we wait and stay patient.
Sent from my Dev Edition Moto X
Surely there must be a way to flash updates through TWRP?
I want to grab one of these
http://sbf.droid-developers.org/phone.php?device=0
and flash it through TWRP. Anyone know if this is possible?
Wouldn't mind 4.4.2 right now on my dev ed, to see if my bluetooth problem gets fixed.
Unfortunately you can not take the ota if
1- you have custom recovery
2- root
3- changed any system file
It will bootloop
Clearing data is always required after any ota
The only hope you have is if someone decides to take that factory image and runnit through kitchen to make it a flashable zip. You will also need the updated modem from either 4.4 or 4.4.2 to prevent system settings from fc ing
This goes for any moto, retail and or developer edition
You may also attempt to flash the sbf firmware and remove the delete userdata from the XML but no guarantee that you will not have issues
Hope that helps
Sent on my Gummy running Lenoto X
To take an ota you must be stock. Meaning everything. As long as you haven't flashed an updated bootloader you can just flash system.IMG and recovery.IMG from the sbf your phone is currently on you can take an ota. A successful ota does NOT require a data wipe.
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finalarcadia said:
Surely there must be a way to flash updates through TWRP?
I want to grab one of these
http://sbf.droid-developers.org/phone.php?device=0
and flash it through TWRP. Anyone know if this is possible?
Wouldn't mind 4.4.2 right now on my dev ed, to see if my bluetooth problem gets fixed.
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You cannot flash any of those through twrp! If you want to flash 4.4.2 you need to fastboot the system.IMG and boot.IMG and you will need to wipe your data. If you choose this route you will not be able to take the ota when its available you'd have to wait for the sbf file to be released and update through house of moto, rsd, or fastboot.
flashallthetime said:
Unfortunately you can not take the ota if
1- you have custom recovery
2- root
3- changed any system file
It will bootloop
Clearing data is always required after any ota
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some questions.. and comments...
I agree with #1. You must have STOCK recovery for an OTA to install properly. And #3, because the OTA generally has a file list with check sums to compare against what is on your device to make sure all required files are there and the correct version/size/etc before it will start to install.
#2 I have a question on as I've not had an issue with this unless the root process makes changes to system files (thus causing a problem for #3). I've lost root taking an OTA, but that is it.
Then again, I have a Dev X with unlocked bootloader, and I don't know enough about RockMyMoto, SlapMyMoto, etc was of rooting the X, except that initially they replaced the recovery partition with an image that when selected/booted allowed write to system, etc. This would cause issue with #1 (no longer have stock recovery on the recovery partition), but not sure what, if any system files get touched or altered from stock.
Finally, you mention clearing data being required... This would wipe you back to factory defaults and remove your apps/data. I don't believe its "required" but rather just suggested as it can make the device run smoother after the update is done.
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msespindola said:
Guys,i have Retail 1058 Moto X with unlocked Bootloader,TWRP(latest and rooted) and i want to upgrade to 4.4.2!
Some guys already received the 4.4.2 brazilian update via OTA,and extracted the zip file,but,since im on custom recovery,the OTA doesnt reboot the phone into stock and go straight to TWRP,therefore,doesnt conclude the update,and keep restarting!
Since i need the phone,i did a factory reset via TWRP just to get things going!
But,i want to upgrade to 4.4.2!
Is there a way to do that?remove TWRP ou something else?
I've seen some people saying that i need to flash the 4.4 img which it is inside the zip but,i dont have that zip anymore!
Thx in advance!
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Depends on how you rooted.
If you've downloaded the SBF file for the ROM on your device (if you don't have it, see if its available from -> http://sbf.droid-developers.org/phone.php?device=0 ), you can unzip it, and fastboot flash the stock recovery from it onto your device, take the OTA, and then later fastboot flash TWRP back on and install SuperSU again to root.
This assumes you did NOT touch any system files the update will check for prior to running/installing. If you did touch system files, edit build prop, removed/renamed any APK's... then fastboot flash recovery and system before taking the OTA
So I'll be getting a Verizon Moto X soon and I plan to root via SlapMyMoto. My question is this: If my device ever needs to be serviced for warranty or resold at a later date, will I be able to unroot with ease back to 100% stock 4.4 without a trace of the rooting? The process is so convoluted that I worry it breaks certain things and I won't be able to switch back to pure stock. Has anyone tried this?
"100% stock without a trace of rooting"... No. You can easily flash back to the stock 4.2.2 image, But the system write protect that "WpNoMo" disables, does not revert back (meaning, the system wp will remain disabled). So, it will be nearly indistinguishable from stock, but a trained expert could easily detect it (a single command sent over adb will tell you wp is off).
Sent from Nexus 7
I was wondering the same thing. I rooted my 32g VZW Moto with Slap 1.0, but just received my Dev Edition from the $100 off sale. My plan is to return the original back to stock and sell. Will the stock recovery return when flashing back to 4.2.2? I wanna make sure the buyer can upgrade OTA and whatever like stock.
trrubicon06 said:
I was wondering the same thing. I rooted my 32g VZW Moto with Slap 1.0, but just received my Dev Edition from the $100 off sale. My plan is to return the original back to stock and sell. Will the stock recovery return when flashing back to 4.2.2? I wanna make sure the buyer can upgrade OTA and whatever like stock.
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This. For all practical purposes, will the phone pass a warranty test and be resellable to act like a normal phone with OTA updates and the like?
trrubicon06 said:
Will the stock recovery return when flashing back to 4.2.2? I wanna make sure the buyer can upgrade OTA and whatever like stock.
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Yes it will. Like stock depends on whether or not you disabled write protection completely.
gerodive said:
This. For all practical purposes, will the phone pass a warranty test and be resellable to act like a normal phone with OTA updates and the like?
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I believe the answer is yes because the 4.4 OTA tripped the counter.
nhizzat said:
Yes it will. Like stock depends on whether or not you disabled write protection completely.
I believe the answer is yes because the 4.4 OTA tripped the counter.
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What does that mean? Apologies for my relative ignorance in this field.
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What does that mean? Apologies for my relative ignorance in this field.
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From what I've read, the 4.4 OTA trips the flash counter within the bootloader as if you had flashed something yourself manually. What I gathered from that is there's no way to distinguish a previously rooted Moto X from a completely stock Moto X with the 4.4 OTA.
That's good to hear. So I'll be able to root 4.4, unroot, and get whatever the newest OTA is (probably 4.4.2) without any issue?
gerodive said:
That's good to hear. So I'll be able to root 4.4, unroot, and get whatever the newest OTA is (probably 4.4.2) without any issue?
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when ever you want to go back to stock you just need to download the stock firmware and flash it via RSD Lite or Fastboot and then take the OTA
So I am planning on rooting my Verizon Moto Maker locked bootloader Moto X running 4.4 before the 4.4.2 OTA gets pushed and I want to safely stay rooted. Here is what I am planning on doing and please correct me if I am wrong or doing things unnecessarily:
1) Save my custom wallpaper using these instructions:
How to Pull Custom Wallpaper
2) Root using Slap My Moto method
- here it the 4.4 OTA if 4.4.2 has already come out by the time I do this
Verizon 4.4 OTA
3) Make an EFS b/u
4) Install Titanium b/u and make a post-root b/u
5) Use Titanium b/u to freeze MotorolaOTA so that the 4.4.2 OTA won't be pushed to my device
- will freezing MotorolaOTA stop the OTA from being downloaded or will it just stop the notification popup?
6) Uninstall Motorola Device Manager from my PC so that it won't try to upgrade my phone's OS every time I connect my phone to my PC
- is there any way to stop MDM from checking for updates without uninstalling it?
- will I lose the Motorola drivers for my Moto X if I uninstall MDM?
Also when am I supposed to wipe my dalvik cache wrt back ups and rooting? Am I supposed to clear any other cache or data anywhere along the way?
Then after I root, I can selectively flash the 4.4.2 update:
Slap My Moto Page 150
Important Warning Before Flashing 4.4.2 Page 15
System.img, boot.img, non-hlos.bin and fsg.mbn
Cozume said:
So I am planning on rooting my Verizon Moto Maker locked bootloader Moto X running 4.4 before the 4.4.2 OTA gets pushed and I want to safely stay rooted. Here is what I am planning on doing and please correct me if I am wrong or doing things unnecessarily:
1) Flash TWRP and boot into it to make a pre-root nandroid b/u
- I know the custom recovery won't stick when I reboot, just doing it to make a pre-root b/u
- is this necessary as long as the sbf firmware is available?
2) Root using Slap My Moto method
3) Make an EFS b/u
4) Install Titanium b/u and make a post-root b/u
5) Use Titanium b/u to freeze MotorolaOTA so that the OTA won't be pushed to my device
- will freezing MotorolaOTA stop the OTA from being downloaded or will it just stop the notification popup?
6) Uninstall Motorola Device Manager from my PC so that it won't try to upgrade my phone's OS every time I connect my phone to my PC
- is there any way to stop MDM from checking for updates without uninstalling it?
- will I lose the Motorola drivers for my Moto X if I uninstall MDM?
Also when am I supposed to wipe my dalvik cache wrt back ups and rooting? Am I supposed to clear any other cache or data anywhere along the way?
Also, I can't hit the thanks button anymore today but if you help me I will come back tomorrow and hit it, I promise!
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Flashing twrp while having a locked boot loader? Idk
Sent on my Gummy running Lenoto X
flashallthetime said:
Flashing twrp while having a locked boot loader? Idk
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Thanks for pointing that out. I read that on a site about backing up that I could do that if I wasn't rooted, but it didn't specify I had to have an unlocked bootloader to do it.
Seriously I am thanking you but I hope you see it from the point of noobs like me, too. I really am reading and trying but that very basic point went over my head. There is so much to try to absorb when you are learning that sometimes the very basic stuff gets missed.
And I am trying to learn both unlocked and locked bootloader methods and not always keeping it straight in my head.
Cozume said:
Thanks for pointing that out. I read that on a site about backing up that I could do that if I wasn't rooted, but it didn't specify I had to have an unlocked bootloader to do it.
Seriously I am thanking you but I hope you see it from the point of noobs like me, too. I really am reading and trying but that very basic point went over my head. There is so much to try to absorb when you are learning that sometimes the very basic stuff gets missed.
And I am trying to learn both unlocked and locked bootloader methods and not always keeping it straight in my head.
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well good! you're on the right track. 3 best pieces of advice here:
1. Search first
2. Read alot (yes even some long threads with several pages)
3. Then Q & A is here for you.
Glad you're being safe with your exepnsive device, some noobs usually shoot first ask questions later.
Cozume said:
Thanks for pointing that out. I read that on a site about backing up that I could do that if I wasn't rooted, but it didn't specify I had to have an unlocked bootloader to do it.
Seriously I am thanking you but I hope you see it from the point of noobs like me, too. I really am reading and trying but that very basic point went over my head. There is so much to try to absorb when you are learning that sometimes the very basic stuff gets missed.
And I am trying to learn both unlocked and locked bootloader methods and not always keeping it straight in my head.
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Flashing a custom recovery always requires a unlocked boot loader, On a more serious note, I would wait for the Verizon ota to arrive and see how folks manage to root their phones, if its possible?
Sent on my Gummy running Lenoto X
flashallthetime said:
On a more serious note, I would wait for the Verizon ota to arrive and see how folks manage to root their phones, if its possible?
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I want to do it now in case the exploit is closed forever in 4.4.2. Then if someone comes up with a new way to root 4.4.2, I can unroot, revert to stock and take the update then, right?
Cozume said:
I want to do it now in case the exploit is closed forever in 4.4.2. Then if someone comes up with a new way to root 4.4.2, I can unroot, revert to stock and take the update then, right?
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No, wait and see what happens, it makes sense flash 4.4.2 now, it won't make any difference now or later, second point is, you can not flash the 4.4.2 sbf firmware as Verizon's version is not available why?,your boot loader is locked, you not flash any sbf with a locked. boot loader, you can ONLY flash your specific carriers sbf firmware. Read please. I have 6 months of moto x experience behind me, been here from day 1
Sent on my Gummy running Lenoto X
My advice. Root it now, wait it out. If they can't come up with an exploit for 4.4.2, sell your phone, get a developer edition then you can do whatever you want.
MotoX Developer Edition went from German 4.4.2 to Great Britain 4.4.2 to T-Mobile 4.4.2 no problem. Fastboot FTW!
SymbioticGenius said:
My advice. Root it now, wait it out. If they can't come up with an exploit for 4.4.2, sell your phone, get a developer edition then you can do whatever you want.
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yeah, but it will cause me great sadness to sell my beautiful wood backed baby!!!
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it won't make any difference now or later
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well, yes it would because if I take the OTA then I won't be rooted unless someone finds an exploit for 4.4.2 and I will never be rooted if someone doesn't.
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, second point is, you can not flash the 4.4.2 sbf firmware as Verizon's version is not available why?,your boot loader is locked, you not flash any sbf with a locked. boot loader, you can ONLY flash your specific carriers sbf firmware.
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I am getting confused now. If I stay on 4.4 rooted and something happens to my device, can I or can't I flash the sbf for Verizon 4.4 with a locked bootloader to restore my device?
Maybe I wasn't clear but my plan is to root on 4.4 and stay there by freezing MotorolaOTA, which is the app that installs the updates and sends the annoying message. I was going to stay on 4.4 rooted and not upgrade to 4.4.2 unless someone can come up with a way to root it with a locked bootloader.
Cozume said:
yeah, that is my plan. But it will cause me great sadness to sell my beautiful wood backed baby!!!
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Go for it root it now, I have no idea which sbf firmware you can flash that won't brick your device and I guess we'll see you back with the developer edition. Did you read my previous post? Is Verizon's or at&t 4.4.2 firmware available? Not last time I checked. Locked bootloaders can not flash any sbf firmware only your specific carriers sbf firmware can be flashed
Sent on my Gummy running Lenoto X
flashallthetime said:
Go for it root it now, I have no idea which sbf firmware you can flash that won't brick your device and I guess we'll see you back with the developer edition. Did you read my previous post? Is Verizon's or at&t 4.4.2 firmware available? Not last time I checked. Locked bootloaders can not flash any sbf firmware only your specific carriers sbf firmware can be flashed
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Did you read my previous post:
My Previous Post
My plan is to NEVER flash 4.4.2 unless someone can root 4.4.2. Then I would unroot and take the OTA, not flash anything. Can't I unroot on 4.4 and take the OTA?
Cozume said:
Did you read my previous post:
My Previous Post
My plan is to NEVER flash 4.4.2 unless someone can root 4.4.2. Then I would unroot and take the OTA, not flash anything. Can't I unroot on 4.4 and take the OTA?
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No one knows yet for sure what and will not work for the 4.4.2 ota, you'll just have to wait. Probably the only way is keep the 4.4 boot loader while running the 4.4.2 system only but its all speculation until the ota comes out
Sent on my Gummy running Lenoto X
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No one knows yet for sure what and will not work for the 4.4.2 ota, you'll just have to wait. Probably the only way is keep the 4.4 boot loader while running the 4.4.2 system only but its all speculation until the ota comes out
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I am not planning on taking the 4.4.2 OTA. The whole point of freezing MotorolaOTA is to block the OTA.
So here's the deal, I unlocked my T-Mobile Moto X bootloader through Motorola's website about a year ago or so. I also rooted and didn't bother updating afterwards to anything since I had everything working perfectly for me. Now I need to update my 4.2.2 Moto X to 4.4.3 (or really anything >=4.3 just so I can use my Moto 360 that'll be arriving soon).
My question is, with an unlocked bootloader, rooted, TWRP 2.6.3.1, Xposed-installed Moto X, can I go ahead and flash a stock 4.4.3 ROM (for example from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/development/rom-stock-flashable-t-mobile-t2773675) and just call it a day?
I've been reading past threads and stuff to get back into the loop, but I just can'f find anything to answer me the simple question of updating an unlocked+rooted 4.2.2->4.4+ while keeping root. Just the simple question of, if I get a stock 4.4 image and flash it on my phone, will everything be okay?
I no longer have the passion and interest to constantly be fiddling with kernels, ROMs, and little hacks with my phone like I used to with my OG Droid and, to a lesser extent, with my Galaxy Nexus (plus I feel like it's gotten significantly less easy since those OG days).
I know (i.e. 90% sure) that one way to do what I want (kinda) is RSDLite/manually go back to stock without root on 4.2.2 and then accept the OTA, but certainly it has to be easier than that right? What happened to the days where I can just find a new Gingerbread ROM for my Froyo Droid and just flash it right then and there? Now everything is "go back to stock and do these convoluted steps."
(I'm sorry I'm ranting, I'm just really tired at the moment haha)
Thank you all, hopefully, for the help!
If you don't care about retaining your data, grab the 4.4.3 fxz and unzip it. Follow the directions for returning back to stock here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/ref-complete-moto-x-guides-information-t2603358 but replace the files to be flashed with the files from the 4.4.3 fxz. Not sure where you got the idea that you need to go back to stock. Word of caution, once on 4.4.3 there's no going back to an older version.
I have the same question as the OP, on unlocked rooted 4.2.2 ATT Moto X, can i flash a custom 4.4.4 and keep root?
RGNDI said:
I have the same question as the OP, on unlocked rooted 4.2.2 ATT Moto X, can i flash a custom 4.4.4 and keep root?
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You can take the ota but you need the stock recovery. Since you are unlocked you will not lose your unlocked-ness(lol) if you take an ota. But you do need to be completely stock: no su, no custom recovery, etc etc. But once you upgrade to 4.4.3 getting root back is as simple as flashing the appropriate version recovery again and then flashing supersu.
1ad_m12 said:
You can take the ota but you need the stock recovery. Since you are unlocked you will not lose your unlocked-ness(lol) if you take an ota. But you do need to be completely stock: no su, no custom recovery, etc etc. But once you upgrade to 4.4.3 getting root back is as simple as flashing the appropriate vision recovery again and then flashing supersu.
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OK thanks, but cant I just Flash a Rooted Stock 4.4.4 over 4.2.2? Thats a more to the point question
RGNDI said:
OK thanks, but cant I just Flash a Rooted Stock 4.4.4 over 4.2.2? Thats a more to the point question
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Yeah that would work as long as your radio is compatible with the rom. The rom you shared earlier should be fine. Just don't downgrade to anything pre 4.4 as that can cause issues because of partition sizes (or so I've heard). But after that I wouldn't take any OTA's cause your bootloader would be incompatible with the OTA and possibly cause a brick. If I were you I'd revert to stock and take the long way to 4.4.3 just so I can get the OTA for when Android L comes out. In fact thats what I plan on doing if the Sunshine bootloader unlock is successful. But if you don't care about that then everything should be fine.
Hello all,
I am on a stock rooted 4.4 rom (verizon). I just used the Sunshine bootloader unlock and I'm curious about the best way to get to 4.4.4.
Should I:
a. Revert back to JB and just take all the OTAs?
b. Or is there a way to just flash 4.4.4 with a custom recovery?
Another question is that once I get to 4.4.4, the unlocked bootloader will still be there and I can put a custom recovery and just flash SuperSU right?
The final question is do I even want to update from 4.4 to 4.4.4, nothing really changed right? Would you do it or just wait for Android L?
Thanks!
streetlightman said:
I am on a stock rooted 4.4 rom (verizon). I just used the Sunshine bootloader unlock and I'm curious about the best way to get to 4.4.4.
Should I:
a. Revert back to JB and just take all the OTAs?
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No. First I would make a nandroid of your stock rooted 4.4.
Then, if you want to keep your data, flash the 4.4 stock recovery and unroot. You said you are on a stock system, but make sure you disable the Xposed installer (not just install it but disable it) if you installed it and revert any changes to your system that you made including unfreezing any apps before you take any OTAs.
Once you have done all of that, I would just let the OTAs do the rest.
If you don't want to keep your data, you can flash the 4.4.4 sbf using RSDLite.
streetlightman said:
The final question is do I even want to update from 4.4 to 4.4.4, nothing really changed right?
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A lot changed including the camera improvements.
Wansanta said:
No. First I would make a nandroid of your stock rooted 4.4.
Then, if you want to keep your data, flash the 4.4 stock recovery and unroot. You said you are on a stock system, but make sure you disable the Xposed installer (not just install it but disable it) if you installed it and revert any changes to your system that you made including unfreezing any apps before you take any OTAs.
Once you have done all of that, I would just let the OTAs do the rest.
If you don't want to keep your data, you can flash the 4.4.4 sbf using RSDLite.
A lot changed including the camera improvements.
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Thanks for the reply. I don't care too much about my data so I wouldn't mind SBfing back to JB. The reason I'd rather do that is because i can't remember what apps I froze (deleted) and I removed the updater APK so it wouldn't annoy me. Would reverting back to JB affect the unlocked bootloader? It shouldn't right?
streetlightman said:
Thanks for the reply. I don't care too much about my data so I wouldn't mind SBfing back to JB. The reason I'd rather do that is because i can't remember what apps I froze (deleted) and I removed the updater APK so it wouldn't annoy me. Would reverting back to JB affect the unlocked bootloader? It shouldn't right?
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What is the point of downgrading to jelly bean?
If you froze apps, they will show up in titanium backup as frozen. If you deleted system apps, you are not stock. So what you are running is a rooted 4.4 that is not stock b/c you deleted system apps. You can flash 4.4.4 without having to remember the changes you made. Then you can flash TWRP and reroot using SuperSU.
You can't downgrade anyways. Unless you want a paperweight. Not even sbfing will do it. Sorry brother. I'm only telling you this for your own good. Please listen.
Download the 4.4.4 sbf, unzip it, flash the contents in bootloader. You can find a guide in the General subforum.
ryanzurlo88 said:
You can't downgrade anyways. Unless you want a paperweight. Not even sbfing will do it. Sorry brother. I'm only telling you this for your own good. Please listen.
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Depends on what you are trying to downgrade.
Wansanta said:
Depends on what you are trying to downgrade.
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So your saying... That I have a vzw Dev ed moto x. 4.4.4. I can take it and downgrade it to 4.4.2 and then flash the gsm 4.4.2? I just use it on WiFi only anyways. Cause I'm trying to get the stock moto x firmware with no carrier bloatware. Right now the vzw has 9 bloatware apps. I have the att 4.4.4 ROM right now with only 4 bloatware apps. I want no bloatware WITHOUT using tb and others
ryanzurlo88 said:
So your saying... That I have a vzw Dev ed moto x. 4.4.4. I can take it and downgrade it to 4.4.2
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Yes, you can downgrade to the 4.4.2 system. If you try to flash the 4.4.2 bootloader or partition table, it will fail. But you can downgrade to the 4.4.2 system. Once upgraded the bootloader and partition table are not downgradeable but if you try to flash them you will get a failure, not a brick. As long as you have an unlocked bootloader and can get to bootloader mode, you don't have a brick.
ryanzurlo88 said:
and then flash the gsm 4.4.2?
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I don't know anything about trying to flash the XT1053 system to a XT1060 device.
ryanzurlo88 said:
Cause I'm trying to get the stock moto x firmware with no carrier bloatware. Right now the vzw has 9 bloatware apps.
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I just remove those via Titanium Backup. Which ones do you want removed and I can tell you if I have removed them and what happened when I did.
You only need the TiBU PRO key if you are freezing apps, not removing apps.
Well like I said I have att moto x rom on a vzw moto x. I just want the straight plain ROM with no tinkering
ryanzurlo88 said:
Well like I said I have att moto x rom on a vzw moto x. I just want the straight plain ROM with no tinkering
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The att system has carrier bloat, too. Do you mean the XT1053 - Tmobile/unlocked GSM system?
Yeah. I'm waiting on an sbf/fxz for it. Unless you've found it?
ryanzurlo88 said:
Yeah. I'm waiting on an sbf/fxz for it. Unless you've found it?
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The latest official sbf for the XT1053 is 4.4.3 unless someone made an unofficial fxz for it.
http://sbf.droid-developers.org/phone.php?device=0
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Yeah. I'm waiting on an sbf/fxz for it. Unless you've found it?
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A lot of talk lately about downgrading being ok on 4.4.2 or higher.....and well there can be a very particular way to do it, without downgrading the bootloader....there are many ways to make a mistake and end up with a brick. This warning seems to be missing from some of the downgrade talk I've been seeing around.
The veterans of this device and XDA will always flat out say no....You can't downgrade. Why? Because if we try to guide anyone through downgrading, or advise them they can.....mistakes happen, and we don't want to be partially responsible for anyone destroying their device.
So, best (aka safest) advice, is to wait for the files you need. Then flash them fairly risk free.
Or try to downgrade.....but know the risks. ?
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If anyone disagrees.....ask these people how downgrading went for them...
https://www.google.ca/search?redir_...ed+xda+site:forum.xda-developers.com&hl=en-US
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