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so im thinking about selling the old Nook Color and upgrading .
I like the transformer but not sure if i can shell out 400+ right now.
What would you buy if you were going to buy a new tablet?
The Transformer Prime is the sexy beast of the week (well, an upcoming week), but it is a 10 inch format. I really don't want a tablet that large. What I want is a TP in 7 inch format! With that in mind, I'm holding onto my NC until mid-next year or so.
I want a tablet that can run ICS, Windows 8 and possibly webOS now that it's open sourced. The Asus Transformer Prime looks like it could be that tablet. My only concern is the 1GB RAM. Lenovo is releasing a Tegra 3 tablet next year with 2GB RAM. Hopefully others will do the same soon.
Of course, if I keep waiting 6 months for the next best thing, I'll never buy anything.
If I walked into Best Buy and saw the Transformer Prime, there's a chance I'd get it on impulse. My more rational side (who doesn't go to stores with me) will patiently look around on the web. I really should be looking for bargains for this year's models once the new ones come out.
I've walked through a few pages in this NC world and don't see anyone mentions about this little tablet so I post.
Name: ASUS Eee Pad MeMO
Price: expect to be $250
Screen: 7" 1280x800 IPS capacitive touchscreen
Processor: quad-core NVIDIA Tegra 3
RAM: 1GB
OS: ICS
Camera: 5MP back, 2MP front
GPS: ?
Hmmmm, it looks very good.
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I've walked through a few pages in this NC world and don't see anyone mentions about this little tablet so I post.
Name: ASUS Eee Pad MeMO
Price: expect to be $250
Screen: 7" 1280x800 IPS capacitive touchscreen
Processor: quad-core NVIDIA Tegra 3
RAM: 1GB
OS: ICS
Camera: 5MP back, 2MP front
GPS: ?
Hmmmm, it looks very good.
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$250 for a quadcore tablet? hell, yeah!
Tapatalkin' it from my rooted NookColor running CM7 MiRaGe [KANG] [7.2 RC] overclocked @ 1.2 GHz
Sounds like it'll be a great deal when it's actually available in the wild. For now, my NC is meetings my needs well enough that I'm debating between getting a Samsung Galaxy Tab 7 Plus, or waiting for the Asus MeMO or something like it.
I definitely have the 7" tablet bug, but only had my NC for a few months. Not quite ready to upgrade. However, when the time comes, this sure has my attention.
Again, it's just a demo and I don't believe we will know for sure its hw. spec. until very close date to release, which ........ who knows? probably this summer? or Xmas?
I've read here and there, some say it's ready to ship, some others say it'll be in Q2.
Don't know yet but sure, it looks very optimistic.
Thanks for directing my attention to this beast. Already has $250 cash ready to throw at Asus when it is released.
Just got two Nooks for Xmas (one for wife). But I'm already bored with it. Lack of video acceleration in CM9 and lack of built-in GPS is a downer.
jdpdata said:
Thanks for directing my attention to this beast. Already has $250 cash ready to throw at Asus when it is released.
Just got two Nooks for Xmas (one for wife). But I'm already bored with it. Lack of video acceleration in CM9 and lack of built-in GPS is a downer.
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Yes, if it's GPS capable then, heck yes, I shall give it some love, however, it reported having A-GPS, which mostly requires data network to work with, can't do offline GPS alone. But again, let's just hope.
Just wish that Asus is clever enough and put NO locks on its bootloader as Nook Color did. This is the better and faster alternative for Nook Color Tablet. Kindle Fire and NT are for eReader only, and are not designed for tablet from the beginning.
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Just wish that Asus is clever enough and put NO locks on its bootloader as Nook Color did. This is the better and faster alternative for Nook Color Tablet. Kindle Fire and NT are for eReader only, and are not designed for tablet from the beginning.
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If rooting is atleast possible, I wouldn't mind at all. What's the point of a bootloader unlock when you already have an unskinned ICS running on it?
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Yes, if it's GPS capable then, heck yes, I shall give it some love, however, it reported having A-GPS, which mostly requires data network to work with, can't do offline GPS alone. But again, let's just hope.
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Lots of A-GPS devices still have full standalone GPS capability, though you're right that some don't. For example, my Incredible gets great GPS accuracy in airplane mode even if the initial time to lock is longer.
That said, I can imagine there must be a lot of little concessions to meet a pricepoint like that so I wouldn't be too surprised if it doesn't have full GPS capability. Wifi might be stripped down like so many budget tablets too, i.e. 2.4GHz only, possibly even limited to 54mbps.
Looking forward to seeing this new asus tablet, I did see this post ealier though stating that it wouldn't be as awesome as it looks, because some rumors say that Google has chosen Asus to manufacture their new nexus tablet. If this happens, Asus will have to compromise on both internal storage as well as replace the processor. It will however be a whole chunk cheaper.
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If you were holding off on rooting your NT because you were going to sell and buy the Memo 370T, you can forget about it.
I'm not happy about this at all. I was really looking forward to a great mid-range 7" tablet: $250, Tegra 3 quad core processor, full Android ICS, camera, etc.
The latest rumors are that Google has chosen Asus to manufacture its new Nexus tablet to compete with the Kindle Fire. To be able to do this, they'll probably have to cut the internal storage and use a different processor.
Reports are that it will cost $150, which is insanely cheap, and even though I do like Asus products, I'll probably be sticking with my NT. My mother's going to be upset, she was looking forward to getting my NT when I bought the 370T.
Rant over.
Here's the source: http://androidcommunity.com/insider...ancelled-rebranded-the-nexus-tablet-20120316/
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But then again, these are just rumors :b I'm really looking forward to this and I think I'm still gonna get one of my own
I've completely forgotten about this thread, my thread
Anyway, as I said earlier in different thread, this device is too good to be true.
For that much of money $250 packed with those high-end spec, it's not gonna happen, not until the year of 2013 or even 2014.
And again, 370T has been killed, we're not gonna see it.
They will slash $50 with dual-core processor, half of the promise internal storage, lower screen resolution and different chipset. When will it be available? No clue.
Again, just a rumor.
I'd love a reasonably priced, full features tablet that didn't have to be constantly hacked to get the latest Android on it. A Google NExus tablet sounds good.
Well word from digitimes(which has a good track record with asus rumors) is reporting that not only will asus release the nexus tablet but the memo 370t is still being made and will be released in may-June.
frenize said:
Well word from digitimes(which has a good track record with asus rumors) is reporting that not only will asus release the nexus tablet but the memo 370t is still being made and will be released in may-June.
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Link, pls?
votinh said:
I've walked through a few pages in this NC world and don't see anyone mentions about this little tablet so I post.
Name: ASUS Eee Pad MeMO
Price: expect to be $250
Screen: 7" 1280x800 IPS capacitive touchscreen
Processor: quad-core NVIDIA Tegra 3
RAM: 1GB
OS: ICS
Camera: 5MP back, 2MP front
GPS: ?
Hmmmm, it looks very good.
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Thanks for the inform, but at the same time, I'm always wondering why this type of post is done in the NC forums portion of XDA. Seems to me that the general forums for Android would be the best place for these posts. Helps encourage us to check in there from time to time.
But when I come to the NC forum portion, I really want my information to be relevant to that device.
SeaFractor said:
Thanks for the inform, but at the same time, I'm always wondering why this type of post is done in the NC forums portion of XDA. Seems to me that the general forums for Android would be the best place for these posts. Helps encourage us to check in there from time to time.
But when I come to the NC forum portion, I really want my information to be relevant to that device.
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Then don't read, don't reply, don't waste your time, m8.
I also wait for news on this Asus tablet !!! And believe it is relevant to the nook, since it could be an alternative for many users here.... Hope to get some updates sooon!!!
The unfortunate thing of Nexus devices is that Google will likely specify that it does NOT include a micro SD card slot, which might make it a non-starter for me.
Hi all. Im considering to buy a touchpad for personal uses. I understand that webOS is rather ok, except for the lack of applications to play around with and thus android is there to save the day. However are there any major bugs in the android alpha builds? The price to me is very reasonable. Another thing that worries me is the internal memory, that is if the 16gb will run out fast? Please, any touchpad users just help me to recommend, that would be great!
Buying HP Touch pad and have ICS on it is worth it. After ICS update on HP Touch pad I have compare Motorola XOOM and HP Touch pad they both look same you will lot and lots of money buying HP Touch pad.
At firesale prices? Yes. Otherwise, why not wait for the next wave of ICS tablets to come out?
Its not really that firesale pirced where i'm from... abour 170USD.. but thats considered affordable still to me. But is it worth getting one? As in would i regret once i bought it?
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Hi all. Im considering to buy a touchpad for personal uses. I understand that webOS is rather ok, except for the lack of applications to play around with and thus android is there to save the day. However are there any major bugs in the android alpha builds? The price to me is very reasonable. Another thing that worries me is the internal memory, that is if the 16gb will run out fast? Please, any touchpad users just help me to recommend, that would be great!
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WebOS is under sung. It has some really cool features, and I'm personally hoping to see it grow and expand in the coming years.
That said, there's also Android. But as skypagers fails to point out...there are still quite a few significant bugs to be worked out in both Gingerbread and ICS builds. Including camera functionality, including chat (in both GB and ICS), video playback, including youtube (in the ICS builds), skype etc etc etc. The sh*t crashes and you might get force-closes and reboots...they're not uncommon at all.
But really it's personal preference. If you've got the scratch, just get a 64GB Transformer Prime with the docking station. If money means nothing, then avoid the HPTP. It's high maintenance, and still everything doesn't work. If you're looking for a badass deal on a great tablet that let's you modify, hack and tweak the f*ck out of it...then the HPTP is for you.
I got 2 32GB's in the 2nd firesale and my wife and I both love them. But my roommate just got his Transformer Prime...let's just say that now, I'm strongly considering selling mine to upgrade to the 700 when it drops in a few months.
I agree with danknee, if you can wait and have the loot. Get something that will be less maintenance. But if you can get a kickass deal, which would put a HPTP in your hands tomorrow...why wait?
I personally like web os better than Android. If you install preware and adjust a few things, the touchpad is rather enjoyable. While there is a lack of apps, if you're plans for the touchpad are mostly web browsing, music, video playback, and an occasional game, you'll have no regrets. And if you get bored or find yourself needing more, there's always android.
BTW, I own 2 32gb touchpads, one dualboots with cm7 and the other cm9. Space has never been an issue either. I have all seasons of archer, ugly Americans, bobs burgers, a half dozen hour long comedy specials, and a few gigs of music. With all that, still have 11gb free. So space hasn't been an issue yet.
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WebOS is under sung. It has some really cool features, and I'm personally hoping to see it grow and expand in the coming years.
That said, there's also Android. But as skypagers fails to point out...there are still quite a few significant bugs to be worked out in both Gingerbread and ICS builds. Including camera functionality, including chat (in both GB and ICS), video playback, including youtube (in the ICS builds), skype etc etc etc. The sh*t crashes and you might get force-closes and reboots...they're not uncommon at all.
But really it's personal preference. If you've got the scratch, just get a 64GB Transformer Prime with the docking station. If money means nothing, then avoid the HPTP. It's high maintenance, and still everything doesn't work. If you're looking for a badass deal on a great tablet that let's you modify, hack and tweak the f*ck out of it...then the HPTP is for you.
I got 2 32GB's in the 2nd firesale and my wife and I both love them. But my roommate just got his Transformer Prime...let's just say that now, I'm strongly considering selling mine to upgrade to the 700 when it drops in a few months.
I agree with danknee, if you can wait and have the loot. Get something that will be less maintenance. But if you can get a kickass deal, which would put a HPTP in your hands tomorrow...why wait?
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Thanks for the in deph analysis. I have to agree with what you said there. Understand the new ics tablets are a better choice for now but yeah, money wise is an issue so I have to lower my limits. Basically I don't really hve any uses for a tablet but just wanna get one so as to experience the tablet feel and when time to come I'm bored, I could just sell it off. So high priced tablets are a no go for me. Besides, the transformer prime does not seem to be available in my country yet.
Based on everyone replies, I think I could make a better choice now! Thanks guys!
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Consider this: ASUSEee Pad MeMO 370T. For about $250 you get a quad core 7" that comes with ICS. Of course you are going to have to wait to get one like the rest of us until the second quarter of the year. I'm planning on picking one of these bad boy when it comes out.
For what you want to do, no. For learning how to mess around with this stuff, sure. But its not a reliable device for everyday use not yet at least. Wait for the new wave of tablets and get something from a decent company like Asus or Samsung .
Fehnix22 said:
For what you want to do, no. For learning how to mess around with this stuff, sure. But its not a reliable device for everyday use not yet at least. Wait for the new wave of tablets and get something from a decent company like Asus or Samsung .
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This is good advice. I'd also say that even if you do get your Touchpad running Android as well as the rest of us, there might be some issues that will never go away. I'm not sure there are enough developer resources to fix the spotty WiFi, the sound distortion on sleep, the camera, or the dozens of other little imperfections. It's a device for the hobbyist.
I have most of my music collection on my 16 GB Touchpad and still have a few gigabytes left. It's good enough, although you'd only be able to store half a dozen movies on there at once.
While I think the touchpad is an awesome device and disagree with many of the complaints about CM9 being showstoppers, thought I'd share the Acer Iconia a500 is $299 on woot.com. Today only, while supplies last. 32 GB, 10.1" screen, tegra 2 1GHz dual core, 1GB RAM, microSD slot, running honeycomb. Similar specs to the TouchPad, but was designed for Android.
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Acer Iconia a500 is $299 on woot.com
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don't think it worth 130$ more.
IMHO:
If you have low budget and you are not perfectionist - buy touchpad. Yes, it's not perfect, it still have some bugs in 2.3 but they are minor and overall it's working pretty good. And stable enough 4.0 we will probably see in next few months.
Also check 7" formfactor, if you like it then probably better to wait for asus 7" tablet for 250$.
If you have 500-600$ in your pocket that you don't need, wait for updated transformer prime or something like this
getbuzzin said:
Consider this: ASUSEee Pad MeMO 370T. For about $250 you get a quad core 7" that comes with ICS. Of course you are going to have to wait to get one like the rest of us until the second quarter of the year. I'm planning on picking one of these bad boy when it comes out.
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Yeah, heard about that and it sounds too good a bargain too. But does ASUS have good android development around? At least i can see that the touchpad has a ready team of developers right now...
and the $250 is the dual core model..
go for it, not only can u run android but web os and Linux this thing is pretty much the hd2 of tablets, I just picked up mine for 150$ and I'm loving it.
my honest review...
I've never owned an 'official' android tablet. I have 2 touchpads and one nook color. The HP touch pad is a great device. But there are some serious downsides:
1: fit & finish... there's a reason for so many refurbished models. My wife's is hardly used and has a cracked case near the speaker. It has maybe 2 hours of use total. And its been in a case 100% of the time. No explanation HP. None at all. I won't send it back because everything else works.
2: Android is a shoehorn and always will be. The current WIFI and kernel glitch are the only two real downsides to android on the Touch pad. If you use Gtalk w/video chat or Skype also stay away. The front camera isn't working, but it sucks anyways so IMO its not an issue. ICS is the only way to use the touch pad. GB was more stable but ICS is built for tablets and it shows. The kernel being very buggy for OTG is also a annoyance.
3: its a little heavier and a little thicker than the competition. Its noticeable but not really bad. The formfactor is also much different. The Touchpad is square like the iPad and the Xoom, 10.1, Transformer are more rectangular. If you like holding an original iPad then this isn't much different. Don't discount WebOS either. Its a very pretty OS. It has a lot of nice features. I don't use it much but its not awful and useless like some people make it. It is going to find much less use now that ICS brings that killer web browser.
My conclusion.....
The touchpad is still a sweet deal. 170ish for a 10in 1.5ghz 1GB ram 16GB is great. The nook tablet comes close but its more expensive and 7in. When you start getting close to 250 for a 32GB its a little rougher, especially with the deals on woot and stuff. Also compusa has refurb Transformer 16gb for 299 which isn't bad.
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Google...basically gently rose up from the Shadows. Flexed it's muscles. And instantly KO'd every company making ****ty small tablets.
In one move. One fell swoop.
Speak softly and carrying a big stick. Well Played Google.
While I know we are a bit upset over the sd slot, and hdmi. You've got to admit, this makes pretty much any other 200 tablet a piece of garbage now.
Thoughts?
Lawyers everywhere are celebrating the arrival of the Nexus 7.
Google represents deep pockets, and every two-bit company with ripped-off patents will be looking to cash in.
Nah, they just like to set the price and standards on each subsequent generation of android devices. Asus was going to release it regardless, Google just changed the standard of such devices taking out what we would call standard features that most people won't need and lowing the price on said standard while keeping the same performance.
gotta give google some credit... they have the technology and know how to use it
While I was hoping it would have the original features of the memo pad as revealed as ces I'm thrilled by this tablet. I think having its software come directly from Google and carrying the nexus moniker more than makes up for the hardware changes.
This tablet was an excellent move by Google because not only is it great hardware wise, but the 7 inch market is where they can build a foothold on the tablet market.
I'm happy it is priced so competitively but to scoff at other companies giving less for more money bothers me. Google isn't making profit off this tablet. They hope to raise revenue from play store purchases, etc, but other companies that produce these need to make money off what they build. I don't begrudge them for that. In the end it would be nice for other stockish android tablet makers to either commit to keeping devices on the latest OS, or release source for drivers, etc when they discontinue support for them so that unofficial builds could continue.
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Cel1084 said:
Nah, they just like to set the price and standards on each subsequent generation of android devices. Asus was going to release it regardless, Google just changed the standard of such devices taking out what we would call standard features that most people won't need and lowing the price on said standard while keeping the same performance.
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Let's just hope other oems will follow this standard of pure android and follow the supposed 5 nexus devices this fall. I love my phone but I love pure Google also
Locklear308 said:
Google...basically gently rose up from the Shadows. Flexed it's muscles. And instantly KO'd every company making ****ty small tablets.
In one move. One fell swoop.
Speak softly and carrying a big stick. Well Played Google.
While I know we are a bit upset over the sd slot, and hdmi. You've got to admit, this makes pretty much any other 200 tablet a piece of garbage now.
Thoughts?
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They bought the rights to sell the ASUS ME370T rebranded as the nexus 7 with features removed.
They didn't KO ASUS.
That being said, I'm praying to Moore that their 10" nexus 10 is a rebranded infinity pad from ASUS.
jptech said:
That being said, I'm praying to Moore that their 10" nexus 10 is a rebranded infinity pad from ASUS.
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no way at the rumored $300 price point. plus infinity is already released. no way you will get true HD 1080P nexus tablet with most powerful tegra3 variant(highest clocked, higher voltage, higher clocked gpu, bandwidth on controller increased) for that cheap. we can dream though..lol.
I see a nexus 10 model being closer to transformer 300 minus some features to lower price point. nexus 7 already uses exact same tegra3 chipset as in transformer 300, which is the T30L variant. So Asus/Google could build a Nexus based on that design. minus some features. corners have to be cut to make the cheaper price point.
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Asus was going to release it regardless, Google just changed the standard of such devices taking out what we would call standard features that most people won't need and lowing the price on said standard while keeping the same performance.
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Yeah, google's only real contribution here was the hype (not insignifigant). And it's price for meddling was removal of features (like sd card) Asus was probably willing to include.
To be honest, I'm not sure it was worth it. And we can never really know, short of travelling to that alternate reality where Asus did release that $250 memo.
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Yeah, google's only real contribution here was the hype (not insignifigant). And it's price for meddling was removal of features (like sd card) Asus was probably willing to include.
To be honest, I'm not sure it was worth it. And we can never really know, short of travelling to that alternate reality where Asus did release that $250 memo.
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More realistic for it to have been $350 and have ICS instead of Jelly Bean.
thebobp said:
Yeah, google's only real contribution here was the hype (not insignifigant). And it's price for meddling was removal of features (like sd card) Asus was probably willing to include.
To be honest, I'm not sure it was worth it. And we can never really know, short of travelling to that alternate reality where Asus did release that $250 memo.
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More realistic for it to have been $350 and have ICS instead of Jelly Bean.
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I'm pretty sure his 250 quote came directly from Asus back when they announced they where releasing it.
I think N7 is the best move that Google could make with Android tablets. With N7, Google can
1. increase the market share, which is lagging iPad.
2. preempt the 7" iPad mini
3. kill cheap android tablets
4. set a standard to avoid fragmentation
5. diminish perception of android tablet = kindle fire
6. stepping stone for play store's long term success
anything I missed?
It might also bring down the price of some of the higher end tablets (are people really willing to pay an extra $xxx just to get feature xxx?)
Please don't think I'm defending lower hardware specs, but the truth is that Nexus devices are great for their SOFTWARE. Other than the Nexus One, these devices have been great, with good hardware but typically not bleeding edge. They contain enough to do what Google sets out to do. I used to be mad about this but now I'm quite happy. There's more to having a great device than the absolute edge of technology. When I got the Nexus S it was the best Gingerbread phone until Google release the next phone... the Galaxy Nexus. I have the GSM Galaxy Nexus now (ordered int'l in Jan) and though it wasn't the end all of hardware when it came out on paper... it is STILL the best ICS device as well. Now on JB, it simply flies. Why is this?
Simply, the way software and hardware are integrated, it's at Apple levels, dare I say. If you look at superior hardware phones like the One X and SGS III, there are hiccups and hangups or other things created by their custom UI's, etc. Plus, the software is written by Google for the Nexus devices to run well.
I'm not saying the galaxy nexus or other nexus device will have the highest benchmarks or play Temple Run the best, but they tend to function as a whole better than their brethren.
The Nexus 7 seems to be the same way. Jellybean is amazing. As Morfic stated, it makes ICS seem like Vista to Jellybean's Windows 7. It may be basically the same kernel, but it does everything it's predecessor does, better and more. Since they hired Mathias Duarte, I believe Android has not just the most functional OS of mobiles, but also the most cohesive and sharpest looking. All of this is my opinion of course, but I remember when GB came out and compared my Nexus S to the iPhone 4 and thought it still LOOKED a little rough. Now, in addition to it doing more, it looks and feels better as well.
My hope is that the Nexus 7 and Google's focus on this device will bring better Tablet UI apps and allows them to take market share from Apple the way they have done the past few years with their phones.
I think they killed all competition in the 7" Android market entirely I'm guessing, and maybe will do the same to the bigger Android tablets if the rumored 10" is released.
Unfortunately, I think this will cause other companies to not build 7" tablets with better specs since most people aren't going to pay much more to have them.. (Like video out, micro sd, haptic feedback, etc.)
The Toshiba Excite 7.7 16gb @ $500? Dead, dead, dead. Only big difference is microsd and AMOLED. And timely updates from Toshiba? Not likely.
Galaxy Tab 7.7? Hard to say. Only the Verizon model is available directly in the US, so maybe it will hang on since it has cell radio, MHL, haptic feedback, microsd, AMOLED, etc. But then again it's over DOUBLE the price. (Disclaimer: I love mine. Verizon, where is my ICS update????)
There are 10" tablets out there for about the same price as the N7, running ICS, with SD cards etc. And they'll sell about 3 of them - because 'joe public' doesn't buy noname chinese hardware that's (in their mind) 'too cheap'.
A google tablet, on the store shelves next to everything else, with google's name on it - they'll buy that. Then you start to shift a few. Then other manufacturers can start to shift a few, too, because suddenly people have friends with an android tablet and they want one too. 'Not an ipad' ceases to be the death blow that it is currently.
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I think N7 is the best move that Google could make with Android tablets. With N7, Google can
1. increase the market share, which is lagging iPad.
2. preempt the 7" iPad mini
3. kill cheap android tablets
4. set a standard to avoid fragmentation
5. diminish perception of android tablet = kindle fire
6. stepping stone for play store's long term success
anything I missed?
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a slap in apples face for their overpriced ipad and marketing condescending commercials :good:
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There are 10" tablets out there for about the same price as the N7, running ICS, with SD cards etc. And they'll sell about 3 of them - because 'joe public' doesn't buy noname chinese hardware that's (in their mind) 'too cheap'.
A google tablet, on the store shelves next to everything else, with google's name on it - they'll buy that. Then you start to shift a few. Then other manufacturers can start to shift a few, too, because suddenly people have friends with an android tablet and they want one too. 'Not an ipad' ceases to be the death blow that it is currently.
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But these cheap tablets... The usually have no support, and no software updates, etc. That's also a huge reason ppl don't go buy them.
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Jayrod1980 said:
Please don't think I'm defending lower hardware specs, but the truth is that Nexus devices are great for their SOFTWARE. Other than the Nexus One, these devices have been great, with good hardware but typically not bleeding edge. They contain enough to do what Google sets out to do. I used to be mad about this but now I'm quite happy. There's more to having a great device than the absolute edge of technology. When I got the Nexus S it was the best Gingerbread phone until Google release the next phone... the Galaxy Nexus. I have the GSM Galaxy Nexus now (ordered int'l in Jan) and though it wasn't the end all of hardware when it came out on paper... it is STILL the best ICS device as well. Now on JB, it simply flies. Why is this?
Simply, the way software and hardware are integrated, it's at Apple levels, dare I say. If you look at superior hardware phones like the One X and SGS III, there are hiccups and hangups or other things created by their custom UI's, etc. Plus, the software is written by Google for the Nexus devices to run well.
I'm not saying the galaxy nexus or other nexus device will have the highest benchmarks or play Temple Run the best, but they tend to function as a whole better than their brethren.
The Nexus 7 seems to be the same way. Jellybean is amazing. As Morfic stated, it makes ICS seem like Vista to Jellybean's Windows 7. It may be basically the same kernel, but it does everything it's predecessor does, better and more. Since they hired Mathias Duarte, I believe Android has not just the most functional OS of mobiles, but also the most cohesive and sharpest looking. All of this is my opinion of course, but I remember when GB came out and compared my Nexus S to the iPhone 4 and thought it still LOOKED a little rough. Now, in addition to it doing more, it looks and feels better as well.
My hope is that the Nexus 7 and Google's focus on this device will bring better Tablet UI apps and allows them to take market share from Apple the way they have done the past few years with their phones.
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I agree with you on some of the points but One x and SGSIII are not hick ups. One x might had some problems earlier but SGSIII never had any problem and it is the best ICS phone not Galaxy Nexus. I sold my Galaxy Nexus 2 weeks back and this was the first phone which does not make me feel wow about anything at all. It was doing everything at acceptable level but best at nothing. I agree that at $350 price tag it is a nice phone but I bought this phone only because I was short of money. Google did well with Nexus one, Nexus S and they were indeed best phones but Galaxy Nexus was just okay sort of phone even when it was released last year. I think the new Nexus would be much better which hopefully would be released later this year.
On the other hand what you have said about Nexus 7 on the other hand is true. Even though I have iPad 3 64GB with 4G but I understand what google is trying to do with Nexus 7 and I love what they did. I was looking for a good 7 inch tablet and there was nothing good in the market in 7 inch beside toshiba 7.7 but it was too pricey. Who is going to pay more than 500 for a 7.7 inch android tablet? Google on the other hand done very well by introducing Nexus 7 only for 200 and nothing can beat it at this price point or even nothing with 300 more price tag can beat it. It is even better than Asus Pad TF300 which cost way more than Nexus 7. The 7 inch form factor is also great and google made a very good choice.
Hey everyone,
My old N7, which I bought way back when it was brand new, has finally left my service. The system could barely boot anymore, even after F2FS and ParrotMod, nothing could bring life back into it. Once apps started to crash I knew it was time, and have sold it to a friend who wants it for parts.
Is there a good (or honestly, not so good) device that people are switching to? The 2013 N7 is price prohibitive (honestly, $120 - $200 for a 4 year old tablet?) but I'd like something that is in the 7-8" range and can handle HD video decoding. Root and custom roms would be great, but if there's nothing out there then I'll settle. The Neutab N7S Pro doesn't look too bad, and at least I won't be forced to use Amazon's apps, but today is the first I've heard of them, so I'm a bit hesitant.
Thanks for any input!
Didn't find a substitution yet. That's the reason I am trying to keep it running as long as possible. Todays alternatives are either bloated (e.g. Samsung) or do not have current Android versions installed (e.g. Asus Zenpad S8.0, Huawai Media Pad M3) or suffer from technical issues (low RAM, low resolution)... not speaking about updates and security patches
Nowadays it's very difficult to find something like the Nexus 7 provided already 5 years ago.
Edit: regarding the Neutab N7S Pro: are you kidding? The specs are worse than the specs from the Nexus 7 (2012)
Amazon provide some great tabs at great prices... except the ecosystem. also lack of agps. frankly i am not happy with n7 2012 and n7 2013 being again made by asus... i am not sure about the quality either.
my best bet would be take a look at lineage os supported tab so that at least community support is guaranteed
SHEILD K1 by NVIDIA? It's not bad, but it also has it's own kinks and stuff, and is pretty stock too.
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SHEILD K1 by NVIDIA? It's not bad, but it also has it's own kinks and stuff, and is pretty stock too.
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Agree! I would buy a SHIELD too. The best 8" tablet IMO