Battery discharges very quickly - General Omni Discussion

Hi!
I've been using since January OmniRomm and am very satisfied.
Silk recently, my battery will discharge very quickly. The cause is obvious Google+.
Does anyone have the same problem and can help me maybe.
Thanks.

JenMei said:
Hi!
I've been using since January OmniRomm and am very satisfied.
Silk recently, my battery will discharge very quickly. The cause is obvious Google+.
Does anyone have the same problem and can help me maybe.
Thanks.
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For me a tool that controls the connectivity usage did the trick.
I put that one:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.latedroid.ultimatejuice&hl=en
It extended the battery time twice for me. You can also search for alternatives of the kind in google play store.
Cheers

JenMei said:
Hi!
I've been using since January OmniRomm and am very satisfied.
Silk recently, my battery will discharge very quickly. The cause is obvious Google+.
Does anyone have the same problem and can help me maybe.
Thanks.
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G+ is a data hog. Even if you disable notifications it eats data. Disable background data in Settings->Data Usage

Entropy512 said:
G+ is a data hog. Even if you disable notifications it eats data. Disable background data in Settings->Data Usage
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Thank you. I will test it.

JenMei said:
Hi!
I've been using since January OmniRomm and am very satisfied.
Silk recently, my battery will discharge very quickly. The cause is obvious Google+.
Does anyone have the same problem and can help me maybe.
Thanks.
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Hey! I have the same problem but haven't found a solution yet neither. I might be true that G+ is a data hog, but this generalization can't be the reason for this clearly newly occuring fingerprint_scanner_local wakelock that keeps my i9100 firing away at maximum clock speed for the whole time. Uninstalled for now and I haven't been lucky at finding something in the better battery stats thread.
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If you don't use it, you can easy unistall with Titanium Backup or similar app

andrea90 said:
If you don't use it, you can easy unistall with Titanium Backup or similar app
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Yea I got fed up with google + turning sync on after I would turn it off, it would toggle back on, so I uninstalled it fully.

ryancell said:
Yea I got fed up with google + turning sync on after I would turn it off, it would toggle back on, so I uninstalled it fully.
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Nice work, I've already done since months

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[Q] High Android OS Battery Usage?

Hey guys, im currently running CM10.1 nightlies and I have noticed that in my battery stats, android os chews a lot of my battery.
I checked with better battery stats whats happening, and it shows that google services and google search is waking my phone a lot,
so i disabled then.
the issue still persists and i don't know what to do
someone shed some light?
I have heard that this problem is uniform across all android 4.2.2 devices?
EDIT: SOLUTION. just turn off wifi and mobile data if you want to sleep your phone.
spazzy1912 said:
Hey guys, im currently running CM10.1 nightlies and I have noticed that in my battery stats, android os chews a lot of my battery.
I checked with better battery stats whats happening, and it shows that google services and google search is waking my phone a lot,
so i disabled then.
the issue still persists and i don't know what to do
someone shed some light?
I have heard that this problem is uniform across all android 4.2.2 devices?
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Even though this is on stock, This thread will help (maybe)
Try disabling the backup services, as they tend to run for like half an hour each time you power up your phone, or maybe it does that everyday.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2194644
campoki said:
Even though this is on stock, This thread will help (maybe)
Try disabling the backup services, as they tend to run for like half an hour each time you power up your phone, or maybe it does that everyday.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2194644
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sorry my bad, i didnt mean data usage, i meant battery usage D:
i will update my op
spazzy1912 said:
sorry my bad, i didnt mean data usage, i meant battery usage D:
i will update my op
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Try use Wakelock detector Or betterBatteryStats apps to check is there any hsic_mmc thingy??report to us here. That's probably been preventing phone deepsleeping..
Whitefang
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whitefang3456 said:
Try use Wakelock detector Or betterBatteryStats apps to check is there any hsic_mmc thingy??report to us here. That's probably been preventing phone deepsleeping..
Whitefang
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nope, all i see in wakelock detector and bbs is android os, nothing strange like hsic_mmc :S
like, all i see are actual apps
I came across the same issue, where I was getting a quick battery drain. I went ahead and unticked auto sync and have wifi shut off via toggle and only turn it on when I need it. After checking the Android OS percentage, it went down by half and battery life now is insane, once in sleep mode, it preserves a lot of battery. I was at 100% at 8:15 am yesterday morning and today I am on 72%, granted I haven't used the phone that much but prior to the previously mentioned steps, I would probably be recharging as we speak!
Start BetterBatteryStats and check your kernel wakelocks - it could be the msm_hsic_host wakelock that is causing your battery drainage?
Destroyedbeauty said:
Start BetterBatteryStats and check your kernel wakelocks - it could be the msm_hsic_host wakelock that is causing your battery drainage?
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hmm, in bbs i dont see kernel wakelocks :S
can i ask some help here??
last night i leave my phone 100% fully charge before i sleep..
when i wake up its dead!! i leave it around 1:00am and i wake up 10:00am
i check the battery consumption and its all android os..
jetwoot said:
can i ask some help here??
last night i leave my phone 100% fully charge before i sleep..
when i wake up its dead!! i leave it around 1:00am and i wake up 10:00am
i check the battery consumption and its all android os..
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this seems to be an issue since android 4.2.2
the only way to get rid of this issue is to have wifi and mobile data turned off.
try it and please post back
spazzy1912 said:
this seems to be an issue since android 4.2.2
the only way to get rid of this issue is to have wifi and mobile data turned off.
try it and please post back
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mobile data is off last night and only wifi is on ..
and that is only 3%
i think android os is more responsible of the massive drain??
can i limit andriod os if yes?? then how??
jetwoot said:
mobile data is off last night and only wifi is on ..
and that is only 3%
i think android os is more responsible of the massive drain??
can i limit andriod os if yes?? then how??
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hmm, how much battery are you draining in total overnight?
my phone drains like, 2 percent overnight, so, from 100 down to 98
spazzy1912 said:
hmm, how much battery are you draining in total overnight?
my phone drains like, 2 percent overnight, so, from 100 down to 98
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6 to 8% since im on 4.2.2
uhm dont know what happen its ok now back to normal..
maybe its on the app called autokiller memory optimizer i do some tweaks using that app
then when i uninstalled it fix my issues
btw thanks for the help!!!
jetwoot said:
6 to 8% since im on 4.2.2
uhm dont know what happen its ok now back to normal..
maybe its on the app called autokiller memory optimizer i do some tweaks using that app
then when i uninstalled it fix my issues
btw thanks for the help!!!
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Btw task killers are bad for the android os.
I know that I have another device but I'm running Resurrection Remix Rom right now and well... See on your own... It's insane...
EpicLPer said:
I know that I have another device but I'm running Resurrection Remix Rom right now and well... See on your own... It's insane...
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Just install app ops, in app look for Android System, turn off both location and keep awake. Done.
Lim Wee Huat said:
Just install app ops, in app look for Android System, turn off both location and keep awake. Done.
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Oi, that actually sounds like a freaking good idea.
I'll try that for the next few days! Thanks!
Lim Wee Huat said:
Just install app ops, in app look for Android System, turn off both location and keep awake. Done.
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app ops doesnt work now...google disabled that access...any other way? i need to turn off keep awake for android system
Nah "CM".... Always beta
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[SOLVED] Solution!
SOLVED!
After maaaaaaaany weeks of googling, searching, WakeLock monitoring, more searching...
I finally fixed what's causing this!
The wakelocks are named:
NlpCollectorWakeLock
NlpWakeLock
Those were the main battery drainers (those freaking suckers!).
They aren't that important to run in the background at all, it's just a location service by Google Now (you know, just so the NSA has more data from you).
It does not affect the device performance or function in any way (as far as I know but I guess it prevents Google Now from searching your location while your phone is locked).
The simple fix for all this:
Simply download "Wakelock Terminator" from the Play Store and run it. You also need Xposed for the installed module to run tho which means you also need a rooted device.
(Downside of the free version: You can only prevent one service from running unlimited wakelocks, for more you'll need the paid version. But because you'll most likely fix only the draining problem you won't need more anyways!)
Then simply go an search for "Google Play Services", tick "Prevent Wake Lock" and add the above mentioned services to the list.
After one day of doing this my phone battery lasts far longer now, draining only about 1-2% an hour instead of 8-10% as it was before.
If this worked for you please hit the "Thanks!"-Button! This is not for my own pleasure, it's for everyone else having the same issue and want to find a legit, fast, easy solution
Also, that's what the button is here for

New HTC One battery problem

The phone was bought 2 weeks ago and I have battery problems after 2-3 days. So the battery drain is huge, i got 10% (100%-90&) after 6 hours with the phone idle no use at all. What can I do?
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Mine (bought on March 2014) with power saver on goes from 100% to 96% in one night (data, Wi-Fi are off). I think that is normal. Battery lasts 2 days normal use (not much screen on).
You can do a Factory reset. Don't install apps and watch if the drain is still there.
1. If the drain disappear install your apps one by one to see witch cause the drain.
2. If the drain is still there send it to service you have a battery problem.
ccatalin said:
The phone was bought 2 weeks ago and I have battery problems after 2-3 days. So the battery drain is huge, i got 10% (100%-90&) after 6 hours with the phone idle no use at all. What can I do?
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Did you installed some apps that may cause?
Is this brand new or used phone you bought?
need a bit more info.
go to settings - power - usage, and look at the app usage. You should see the typical apps you use a lot, but also look for apps that look out of place. like an app you don't use much, but uses a lot of battery use.
also look at settings - more - data usage, and scroll down. That will show which apps are using the most data, and also if it's foreground or background data. Don't worry too much about foreground data, that is data use happening while you are using the app. Instead, look for apps that are using a lot of background data. if you click on the app, you have an option to disable background data for those apps.
Note some apps don't function properly without background data enabled, like some google services/play store. also make sure the play store options are set to never auto update.
fwiw, I usually get 2.5-3 days between charges with light use.
Sounds like a major issue
ccatalin said:
The phone was bought 2 weeks ago and I have battery problems after 2-3 days. So the battery drain is huge, i got 10% (100%-90&) after 6 hours with the phone idle no use at all. What can I do?
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If the phone is that brand new, it could be a malfunctioning phone that eats through battery life. I would try taking it back to where ever you bought it from and try getting a new phone. See if that helps. Otherwise you may need to purchase a different battery from a reputable seller in order to get a good amount of battery life.
Cheers!
ccatalin said:
The phone was bought 2 weeks ago and I have battery problems after 2-3 days. So the battery drain is huge, i got 10% (100%-90&) after 6 hours with the phone idle no use at all. What can I do?
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You could try GSam Battery Monitor (dowload it form Play Store). It gives you a report on which apps drain your battery.
DwightKSchrute said:
You could try GSam Battery Monitor (dowload it form Play Store). It gives you a report on which apps drain your battery.
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im having similar problem as mentioned..
my GSam Battery Monitor reports Android System consumes 25.8% and Kernel (Android OS) consumes 13.2%
any idea how to reduce these usages?
iamchard said:
im having similar problem as mentioned..
my GSam Battery Monitor reports Android System consumes 25.8% and Kernel (Android OS) consumes 13.2%
any idea how to reduce these usages?
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Those should be on the top of your list. You might have a faulty battery then. Have you tried a factory reset?
So, I tried a factory reset but still battery drain. I have another HTC One, with heavier usage and still goes all the day with 30-40% left at night. I will talk to Vodafone to sent the phone to warranty but I think they will say It's because you unlocked the bootloader, put a custom rom, and there is a chance to lose my warranty. Probably I'll buy a battery case
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DwightKSchrute said:
Those should be on the top of your list. You might have a faulty battery then. Have you tried a factory reset?
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nope..not yet..but im pretty sure it wouldnt help..
those apps running on background have been forced to stop manually..
iamchard said:
nope..not yet..but im pretty sure it wouldnt help..
those apps running on background have been forced to stop manually..
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You could Greenify the apps running on the background. That way, they will only be running when you open them and not after you close them. This could help too.
DwightKSchrute said:
You could Greenify the apps running on the background. That way, they will only be running when you open them and not after you close them. This could help too.
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thanks for the suggestion. will try it out now!

Google Play services draining battery

I know this has been asked numerous times but I still can't seem to fix the battery issue with google play.
I've tried the normal tweaks (use battery saving location, clear cache, disable google now, only sync what need to be synced, etc) but does anyone else have any other ideas?
btw I've already disabled VoLTE which helped some (not with google services but general battery)
My SOT is like 30 min today. Other days I've had better battery but it is always after google services and sometimes after android.
I'm stock and non rooted. Any help would be appreciated.
Check themes and apps for my thread and download the latest version. Other than that there isnt much you can do.
SilkyJohnson said:
Check themes and apps for my thread and download the latest version. Other than that there isnt much you can do.
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I haven't changed the stock theme and I'm running the latest version...
Surely there has to be something I can do. I mean 30 min Screen on time and already at 50% is horrendous
My Google Play Service is sitting at like 3% with over 12 hours off the charger. I turned off Google Now and location history. They'll suck your battery dry if you let them.
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¿Will-it-Blend? said:
My Google Play Service is sitting at like 3% with over 12 hours off the charger. I turned off Google Now and location history. They'll suck your battery dry if you let them.
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What does location history do? I've never really understood it.
It doesn't affect location, does it?
I'm having this issue too. It's always in the top 2 apps in battery use. I've tried to keep everything updated, but it's always over 10%, so I have no idea how to fix it.
riahim said:
I haven't changed the stock theme and I'm running the latest version...
Surely there has to be something I can do. I mean 30 min Screen on time and already at 50% is horrendous
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I meant the latest version of Google Play Services.
riahim said:
What does location history do? I've never really understood it.
It doesn't affect location, does it?
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In combination with Google now abs other google apps, it keeps track of everywhere you've been to present new information to you (like travel time to places you go to frequently). As you can imagine it polls your location a lot and drains battery. Disabling will not affect location however.
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SilkyJohnson said:
I meant the latest version of Google Play Services.
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How do I check for the latest version? I currently have 7.5.71(1955121-440) which I think is up to date, no?
¿Will-it-Blend? said:
In combination with Google now abs other google apps, it keeps track of everywhere you've been to present new information to you (like travel time to places you go to frequently). As you can imagine it polls your location a lot and drains battery. Disabling will not affect location however.
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Gotcha. That makes a lot of sense. Thanks.
riahim said:
How do I check for the latest version? I currently have 7.5.71(1955121-440) which I think is up to date, no?
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Yeah, that's current. Go into your app drawer and open Google settings. Click location history at the bottom of the first screen then turn off. That'll help. Also check advanced WiFi scanning, as Google's "always scanning even when WiFi is off" turned itself back on for me. That'll murk a battery.

Worse battery life since the Oreo update

Since the update, I have definitely experienced worse battery life, especially overnight on standby/idle and also overall when I'm at home on WiFi in general, I have read a few posts about the November security patch causing worse battery on a lot of different phones so I don't know if it is because of that, I just hope either the December patch sorts it, or HMD make the battery optimisation better in the next update patch from them soon, has anyone else noticed worse battery performance since Oreo?
Doesn't seem any different to me ill be honest.
For me it even seems to be a little bit better than on Nougat.
I have stellar battery life all together but standby could be better. The other night I lost 3-4% over night and that is more than the usual 1-2% I'm used to on my phones. Not something to get upset about really but something I've noticed.
No battery drain here, my opinion seems the same good as on nougat to
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Me too. I have a little better battery performance since Oreo.
Although I'm a battery drain. I only have 18 apps allowed to work in background. I have enabled "Clean background activities" in battery menu too.
mikote2000 said:
Me too. I have a little better battery performance since Oreo.
Although I'm a battery drain. I only have 18 apps allowed to work in background. I have enabled "Clean background activities" in battery menu too.
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Where's the clean background activities?
Can't see it on mine.
Sorry, I'm a Spanish speaker and I made a free translation. I attach you a screenshot. Maybe it can help you to find the menu. It's the first option (Option which is switched on).
https://1drv.ms/i/s!Asos2XZUuAPZnK1E20Hva6npEr2INw
mitchst2 said:
Where's the clean background activities?
Can't see it on mine.
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Go settings, battery look for background activity manager.
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Go settings, battery look for background activity manager.
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Ok already using that, was looking for some sort of global switch.
All of my apps are in the whitelist and are allowed to do as they please, seems a pointless feature to me.
MrBelter said:
All of my apps are in the whitelist and are allowed to do as they please, seems a pointless feature to me.
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Not to me. I don't want the likes of Facebook running all the time. I'll check it when I can be bothered. Otherwise I want it dead dead dead.
mitchst2 said:
Not to me. I don't want the likes of Facebook running all the time. I'll check it when I can be bothered. Otherwise I want it dead dead dead.
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Just turn off notifications for the app you are using, the only app i get notifications from is Gmail everything else can wait.
I was at 8 hours SOT yesterday with 32% battery left, like i said it seem a pointless feature.
dannejanne said:
I have stellar battery life all together but standby could be better. The other night I lost 3-4% over night and that is more than the usual 1-2% I'm used to on my phones. Not something to get upset about really but something I've noticed.
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Battery on oreo is awesome, if you want less energy use during sleep use "naptime" from playstore.
MrBelter said:
Just turn off notifications for the app you are using, the only app i get notifications from is Gmail everything else can wait.
I was at 8 hours SOT yesterday with 32% battery left, like i said it seem a pointless feature.
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Not just notifications I don't want Facebook or the likes doing anything in the background so for me useful that way. Not necessarily for battery.
mitchst2 said:
Not just notifications I don't want Facebook or the likes doing anything in the background so for me useful that way. Not necessarily for battery.
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If they aren't consuming battery what are they doing that is so scary you need to disable them from running in the background? Serious question BTW i am not taking the mic.
MrBelter said:
If they aren't consuming battery what are they doing that is so scary you need to disable them from running in the background? Serious question BTW i am not taking the mic.
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The point is I don't need them doing anything in the background, nothing, NADA, zip, no matter what it is they might be doing I don't need it.
The apps I do need are switched on.
This is personal preference buddy.
mitchst2 said:
The point is I don't need them doing anything in the background, nothing, NADA, zip, no matter what it is they might be doing I don't need it.
The apps I do need are switched on.
This is personal preference buddy.
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Same here, I have most of my apps disabled apart from things that actually need to be running like PingID for work authentication / MS Authenticator / emails and 4 or 5 other things.
Try "data saver" if you have that option in your OREO ROM
Yes I did say DATA saver
Go to Settings - type "data saver" in the search box - switch it on
Works magic for me with a standard OREO ROM and nothing else.
since 8.1 update, battery draining has been worse

Insanely decreased battery life

Is there any battery life issue that anyone may have encountered ever since the previous two updates.. my 6000mah battery that used to stay for 2 days minimum has gone to a single day. It's all been after the update and i saw plenty of forums in Asus itself of the same thing.
Reference :- https://zentalk.asus.com/en/discussion/54786/battery-drain-issue-on-rog-3
Anyone got any leads for this?
You're just overthinking. Stop staring at the battery percentage 24/7 and enjoy the damn phone.
RebornCheiko said:
You're just overthinking. Stop staring at the battery percentage 24/7 and enjoy the damn phone.
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You damn right! But how, bro. When u were accustomed to charging ur phone once in two days and you have to subtract 24 hours from that.. it surw changes the usage from a gaming plus daily driver to either one of the lot .. change for the bad questions a lot of stuff
asnair045 said:
You damn right! But how, bro. When u were accustomed to charging ur phone once in two days and you have to subtract 24 hours from that.. it surw changes the usage from a gaming plus daily driver to either one of the lot .. change for the bad questions a lot of stuff
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What is your battery usage? Have you tried a factory reset?
What is showing as consuming most power? An optimized debloated ROG 3 with a healthy can go a week on stand-by with data enabled and even longer (no kidding) and easily 2-2.5 days with normal use.
You have to pinpoint what is doing it. It's wearing down your battery as well...
stiffis said:
What is your battery usage? Have you tried a factory reset?
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Yes, twice. Still does the same thing.
Andrologic said:
What is showing as consuming most power? An optimized debloated ROG 3 with a healthy can go a week on stand-by with data enabled and even longer (no kidding) and easily 2-2.5 days with normal use.
You have to pinpoint what is doing it. It's wearing down your battery as well...
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I tried, actually. The thing is i fear the Android system itself. Coz in one of the threads on the Asus website forums, there were people discussing Play Store or Play activities that keep auto restarting and also twin apps.
So for starters i did try to force close play services (can't disable coz of the emails), then battery turned out great. But afterwards it started reducing again. Same with twin apps.
I ain't kidding too. It's supposed to a 2-2.5day phone easily with the 6000mah battery, but for me it's a single day max to max a 12+ (3-4) hour phone
asnair045 said:
Yes, twice. Still does the same thing.
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Ok. I also had some battery drain (not on idle tho) and installed Kirisakura kernel, seems to have solved the issue for me. I also wiped Dalvik cahe. It may also have been the solution
asnair045 said:
Yes, twice. Still does the same thing.
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You can also try to use the Naptime app, it forces the phone into Doze when screen is off. Adb access or root is needed
GSAM can also be used to find the culprit
If disabling Goog Play Services stops the issue, it's likely linked to one or more running apps or processes. It's likely not Play Services itself but because one or more other components are making calls to it. Try to review all the running apps & services on your device and selectively disable them and gauge the difference. Apps that do a lot of syncing, using location services, excessive notifications (cloud messaging), Firebase indexing, etc etc.... If you have a good app manager tool, that will make the hunt easier.
stiffis said:
You can also try to use the Naptime app, it forces the phone into Doze when screen is off. Adb access or root is needed
GSAM can also be used to find the culprit
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That's great, will try the kernel coz I still haven't rooted my phone. Does the kernel need root?
stiffis said:
Ok. I also had some battery drain (not on idle tho) and installed Kirisakura kernel, seems to have solved the issue for me. I also wiped Dalvik cahe. It may also have been the solution
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Does installing a Kernel need root access? Coz I don't want to root as of now.. and i haven't installed a Kernel ever.. is it riskier than a root?
stiffis said:
Ok. I also had some battery drain (not on idle tho) and installed Kirisakura kernel, seems to have solved the issue for me. I also wiped Dalvik cahe. It may also have been the solution
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asnair045 said:
That's great, will try the kernel coz I still haven't rooted my phone. Does the kernel need root?
Does installing a Kernel need root access? Coz I don't want to root as of now.. and i haven't installed a Kernel ever.. is it riskier than a root?
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Yes, this kernel requires root

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