[Q] Nandroid from 32GB to 64GB - Moto X Q&A

Anyone know if a TWRP nandroid backup from a 32GB xt1053 model can be restored onto a xt1053 64GB model?
Of course both have unlocked boot loaders and latest TWRP flashed.

dobbs3x said:
Anyone know if a TWRP nandroid backup from a 32GB xt1053 model can be restored onto a xt1053 64GB model?
Of course both have unlocked boot loaders and latest TWRP flashed.
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Shouldn't be an issue.

Don't restore the efs partition tho! Or you're new device is a paperweight.
Personally, I think a clean install of apps on a new device is much better. But that's just me.

KJ said:
Personally, I think a clean install of apps on a new device is much better. But that's just me.
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I second this.

IMO, you should never do a full restore from one device to another. Backup the specific app(s) you want to keep the settings on, and do the rest yourself. While it shouldn't be an issue, it could set you up for problems that you wouldn't encounter otherwise.

I was able to restore it and have noticed no problems with it all day. Seems identical.

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[Q] how can I remove my custom rom

I'm Currently running android revolution hd 7.1, I notice a huge signal degradation so I guess I need to go back to stock.
Is there any an go back to fully stock?
I've searched for RUU, but they do not have 1.29.707 WWE, and mandrels doesn't seems to work on me (it just restored to default setting for ARHD)
Any help is appreciated
Friedtofux said:
I'm Currently running android revolution hd 7.1, I notice a huge signal degradation so I guess I need to go back to stock.
Is there any an go back to fully stock?
I've searched for RUU, but they do not have 1.29.707 WWE, and mandrels doesn't seems to work on me (it just restored to default setting for ARHD)
Any help is appreciated
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You mean you didn't create a nandroid backup of your device before flashing a custom ROM? You should always do that. I think you'll have to wait until a RUU is released, or if someone is willing to post a nandroid of their device
I know theres a stock zip found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2224752. Just flash it and you'd be back to stock. Your bootloader would still show as tampered. I did it and went back to stock as well.
Rumball said:
You mean you didn't create a nandroid backup of your device before flashing a custom ROM? You should always do that. I think you'll have to wait until a RUU is released, or if someone is willing to post a nandroid of their device
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I am still new to android, I thought a simple backup of apps and data is sufficient. Do you have any idea how long will it be released?
Totally regretted...
shief24 said:
I know theres a stock zip found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2224752. Just flash it and you'd be back to stock. Your bootloader would still show as tampered. I did it and went back to stock as well.
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Hey thanks for your help, but this is for build 1.29.401.13 which is not for my region, which is 1.29.707.3...
Friedtofux said:
I am still new to android, I thought a simple backup of apps and data is sufficient. Do you have any idea how long will it be released?
Totally regretted...
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Ya, a Nandroid takes a complete mirror copy of your device (excluding any files on your internal storage like music, pictures, and videos) and saves it in a single file. You'll want to get in the habit of making these before flashing custom ROMs. The backup apps just saves the apps you've installed from the Google Play Store as well as SOME of it's configuration data.
I would post a request to see if someone with the same regional device as yours could upload a nandroid. Give your country and operator details...maybe someone has a nandroid you can restore to.
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Ya, a Nandroid takes a complete mirror copy of your device (excluding any files on your internal storage like music, pictures, and videos) and saves it in a single file. You'll want to get in the habit of making these before flashing custom ROMs. The backup apps just saves the apps you've installed from the Google Play Store as well as SOME of it's configuration data.
I would post a request to see if someone with the same regional device as yours could upload a nandroid. Give your country and operator details...maybe someone has a nandroid you can restore to.
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Singapore, Singtel. I wouldn't expect to find any nandroid from my country given the small number of users.
I guess my my region for HTC Build is 1.29.707.X
Thanks for your help. I have learnt from my experience...:crying:
Does anyone know about HTC's warning about the DRM keys being lost when you flash custom roms? I'm thinking about getting the Dev edition but is anything lost when you flash back to stock or another rom? I know with the Xperia Z, if you unlock the bootloader you'll lose the Bravia engine.
Singapore Stock backup is here -> http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/h...ot-recovery-htc-one-1-29-707-3-a-4188771.html
I created using TWRP so you have to switch to it instead of CWM first
v-b-n said:
Singapore Stock backup is here -> http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/h...ot-recovery-htc-one-1-29-707-3-a-4188771.html
I created using TWRP so you have to switch to it instead of CWM first
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Is it for singtel?

[Q] How to do full system dump?

Hi,
I will be getting a HTC One shortly to replace my Galaxy S2. It will be from my local Canadian carrier SaskTel. I plan on flashing CM10 or else the full Google Edition conversion (bootloader, recover and all). What I want to know is how do I do a FULL backup of my stock system? Will a nandroid suffice? I'm new to the HTC world. I'm used to the recovery being part of the kernel. Does nandroid back up the recover partition?
Thank you.
eradicator006 said:
Hi,
I will be getting a HTC One shortly to replace my Galaxy S2. It will be from my local Canadian carrier SaskTel. I plan on flashing CM10 or else the full Google Edition conversion (bootloader, recover and all). What I want to know is how do I do a FULL backup of my stock system? Will a nandroid suffice? I'm new to the HTC world. I'm used to the recovery being part of the kernel. Does nandroid back up the recover partition?
Thank you.
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A nandroid backup is enough. But if you are talking about backing up radio, kernel and recovery on your phone I have no idea how to do that. All I know is you can look around for them in the xda forum. But if it's just the ROM you're talking about, a nandroid backup will do.
Rex2369 said:
A nandroid backup is enough. But if you are talking about backing up radio, kernel and recovery on your phone I have no idea how to do that. All I know is you can look around for them in the xda forum. But if it's just the ROM you're talking about, a nandroid backup will do.
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Yeah I want to back up everything. In one of the dev threads there's a RUU zip of all of the partitions and radio for the Google Edition. I want to do the same with my stock phone once I get it. There has to be a way to do it because they did it with the GE variant.
Looking through this zip file it looks like they are dd image files. I'm familiar with dd in linux and mac. Does anybody have a list of which block devices correspond to which partition? Also, how do you backup the radio?
eradicator006 said:
Yeah I want to back up everything. In one of the dev threads there's a RUU zip of all of the partitions and radio for the Google Edition. I want to do the same with my stock phone once I get it. There has to be a way to do it because they did it with the GE variant.
Looking through this zip file it looks like they are dd image files. I'm familiar with dd in linux and mac. Does anybody have a list of which block devices correspond to which partition? Also, how do you backup the radio?
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I'm very interested in doing that on my friends STOCK Rogers phone also! Since I messed with mine and am no longer stock

backing up / restoring original firmware

i'm about to root my moto x dev.
i want to keep a backup of the original firmware in case i want to go back.
does it make any difference that it is encrypted? i'm guessing no...
also, any good dumb proof steps? the main info thread only mentions restoring stock by downloading a firmware not using a backed up one.
gcbxda said:
i'm about to root my moto x dev.
i want to keep a backup of the original firmware in case i want to go back.
does it make any difference that it is encrypted? i'm guessing no...
also, any good dumb proof steps? the main info thread only mentions restoring stock by downloading a firmware not using a backed up one.
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Rooting how? What version of android are you on? These are very important considerations to be able to make a recommendation.
Assuming you intend to unlock your bootloader, you can make a backup with TWRP Custom Recovery BEFORE you root.
If you are using the PIE exploit (only current root method for 4.4.2+), you cannot flash custom recovery. If this is the case, your only option to return to stock will be to flash the official SBF file for your carrier as listed in the "Return to Stock" thread. Not really important since the changes are lost upon reboot anyways.
Regardless, we need more details.
EDIT: Just saw you are using DEV edition.
Very easy!
FIRST: When you unlock your bootloader, it ERASES EVERYTHING. Save anything important first. You cannot make a backup until after you flash twrp, which you can only do AFTER you unlock the BL.
Additionally, according to this thread, it is impossible to backup an encrypted device. So after unlock, you are advised to not choose to encrypt, otherwise no backup can be made: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/moto-x-qa/twrp-device-encryption-t2711700
Once Unlocked, flash TWRP custom recovery with mfastboot:
mfastboot flash recovery twrpfilename.img
link to download twrp here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/development/recovery-twrp-official-support-moto-x-t2779637
then use fastboot to reboot into bootloader:
fastboot reboot-bootloader
now VOL DOWN to "recovery" and VOL UP to open it.
There is a BIG backup button. Use it.
Afterwards, click exit. When you do, it will tell you that you are not rooted and ask if you want to flash SuperSU Installer.
Say yes! Once rebooted, run SuperSU installer and it will root & install SuperSU for you. It will give you 2 options: Choose Play Store Option.
Good Luck
@gcbxda
Keep in mind, since unlocking the bootloader also does a factory reset and puts you back to "fresh out box" the backup you do once you flash TWRP on your phone, will be no different than "Stock Rom" (except TWRP recovery). So why not use the factory firmware to flash the phone back instead of restoring such a backup?
Oh, and keep in mind, if you do backup while in TWRP, you'll want to copy that back up file from the phone to the PC for storage. Future Factory Resets and such will likely wipe the X's internal /SDcard so the backup file would be lost.
Now if your intent is to unlock the bootloader, setup your phone the way you like it before rooting, back up, and then root.... I can see the value in that.
You can also use 'adb pull /sdcard c:\' to backup any files you have
Thanks everyone!
Backing up my stuff is good, but my main concern is going back to stock if I need (what if they release a kick ass moto watch and i need the OTA stock upgrade to use it?
Also, what if I do a backup of the partitions with ADB? ...man sometimes the android community pisses me off. everything must be packaged in a app or some GUI that hides all the information. ...just wasted 2 days reading xposed source to learn that all i had to do, instead of even installing xposed, was to edit a single sql value from 1 to 0... i'm all for the nice guis, but don't hide the actual steps like it is some black magic.
When i started this thread i was thinking of a backup more on the lines of: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2450045
anyway, if adb pull is not an option, my plan of action:
1. backup everything i want on the fake sdcard
2. copy the files out (either adb pull or rootbrowser to move sd files to a external pendrive on the USB OTG)
3. factory reset and/or root bootloader
4. install TWRP (this will be new, always liked classic no-touch CWM on my nexus)
5. backup stock roms
6. root/flash/etc
anyone can expand on item 5 with personal experiences? ideally if you ever did a successful back-to-stock restore
Stock
gcbxda said:
Thanks everyone!
Backing up my stuff is good, but my main concern is going back to stock if I need (what if they release a kick ass moto watch and i need the OTA stock upgrade to use it?
Also, what if I do a backup of the partitions with ADB? ...man sometimes the android community pisses me off. everything must be packaged in a app or some GUI that hides all the information. ...just wasted 2 days reading xposed source to learn that all i had to do, instead of even installing xposed, was to edit a single sql value from 1 to 0... i'm all for the nice guis, but don't hide the actual steps like it is some black magic.
When i started this thread i was thinking of a backup more on the lines of: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2450045
anyway, if adb pull is not an option, my plan of action:
1. backup everything i want on the fake sdcard
2. copy the files out (either adb pull or rootbrowser to move sd files to a external pendrive on the USB OTG)
3. factory reset and/or root bootloader
4. install TWRP (this will be new, always liked classic no-touch CWM on my nexus)
5. backup stock roms
6. root/flash/etc
anyone can expand on item 5 with personal experiences? ideally if you ever did a successful back-to-stock restore
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Hello,
You can find all the stock roms here - - > http://sbf.droid-developers.org/phone.php?device=0
MikeNaples said:
Hello,
You can find all the stock roms here - - > http://sbf.droid-developers.org/phone.php?device=0
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thanks. i also saw that motorola offer it themselves.. is this their own repository?
but regardless, it is always nice to already have your own handy
gcbxda said:
thanks. i also saw that motorola offer it themselves.. is this their own repository?
but regardless, it is always nice to already have your own handy
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Moto officially offers recovery images (full stock rom) for the GSM Dev/GSM Unlocked XT1053 and Verizon XT1060 by request on their web site here -> https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/recovery-images They are the most currently released rom only. You wont find older versions there.
SBF.Droid-Developers.org is neither owned, operated nor sponsored by Moto. They keep every version full stock roms (SBF files) they find. I'm not going to speculate how they come across them, but they have many SBF files that Moto hasn't officially released to the public too. i.e. Sprint, ATT, and other carriers.
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gcbxda said:
Thanks everyone!
Backing up my stuff is good, but my main concern is going back to stock if I need (what if they release a kick ass moto watch and i need the OTA stock upgrade to use it?
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There are ways to get back to stock to be able to take an OTA -> http://mark.cdmaforums.com/MotoX-ReturnToStock.html
gcbxda said:
Also, what if I do a backup of the partitions with ADB? ...
When i started this thread i was thinking of a backup more on the lines of: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2450045
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You can certainly back up that way. But I haven't tried backing up that way and restoring, so I don't know.
gcbxda said:
anyway, if adb pull is not an option, my plan of action:
1. backup everything i want on the fake sdcard
2. copy the files out (either adb pull or rootbrowser to move sd files to a external pendrive on the USB OTG)
3. factory reset and/or root bootloader
4. install TWRP (this will be new, always liked classic no-touch CWM on my nexus)
5. backup stock roms
6. root/flash/etc
anyone can expand on item 5 with personal experiences? ideally if you ever did a successful back-to-stock restore
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With my HTC Incredible and HTC Thunderbolt and Moto Droid, I did backups in CWM, and restores. It was mainly for when a new upgrade came out. I would backup my current device setup, apps, etc. Apply the update, and if I didn't like the update or had problems, I could revert to my pre-update backup, rather than flash a stock rom and have to set it up all over again, install all my apps, etc. But the HTC devices had S-OFF, so downgrading wasn't an issue.
With my Droid Bionic, the bootloader wasn't unlocked, so it wasn't an option. And there were issues with GPT.Bin and other items preventing downgrading roms, even when flashing official full SBF files.
I haven't really done this with my VZW Dev X, mostly due to the fact that while the bootloader is unlocked, its not unlocked as much as a Nexus device, or an HTC with S-Off, where you can downgrade and flash any parts no matter what. Security issues, things like GPT.BIN, MotoBoot, etc can still get in the way when trying to downgrade. So I never felt it worth the risk. Not to mention the limited space on the X, and time/effort to make the back up and move the file to the PC, and then getting it back on the phone should I ever need to restore it since there is no real SD card.
If your intent of backing up stock roms is so you can revert to stock, having the Moto SBF files available elevates most users concerns. When flashing the same version, there are ways to do it without losing your Apps/Data (like in the case of running 4.4.2 rooted and modded, but wanting to get back to stock to take the 4.4.3 OTA).
If you want to do a backup/restore inside TWRP, you can. I have read many posts from users who were successful. I just advise that you keep track of the version you back up, and only restore if the same Android version is still on your phone (i.e. only restore a 4.4.2 back up if 4.4.2 is on your phone, only restore a 4.4 back up if 4.4 is still on your phone, etc)
wait, what are the limitations i will have with a unlocked Dev device?
with my nexus and touchpad i often tried 4.3 roms and went back to 4 or 2.3 even...
i tried searching the terms you mentioned but it spawn all sort of threads with OP having some flashing problem and then pages of comments starting with "i think..."
I'm extremely confused now
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gcbxda said:
wait, what are the limitations i will have with a unlocked Dev device?
with my nexus and touchpad i often tried 4.3 roms and went back to 4 or 2.3 even...
i tried searching the terms you mentioned but it spawn all sort of threads with OP having some flashing problem and then pages of comments starting with "i think..."
I'm extremely confused now
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Unlocked or Locked Moto X... you have to be concerned when flashing backwards. The Security features on the X prevent downgrading certain components. Attempting to do so will brick or set you up to brick in the future.
Please see -> http://mark.cdmaforums.com/MotoX-Downgrade.htm
Short version... once you have 4.4.2 on your phone, do NOT attempt to downgrade.
KidJoe said:
Moto officially offers recovery images (full stock rom) for the GSM Dev/GSM Unlocked XT1053 and Verizon XT1060 by request on their web site here -> https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/recovery-images They are the most currently released rom only. You wont find older versions there.
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Lol. looking back at that thread i whish i had went ahead and did all the backups on all OTA updates before each twrp/root and did not trust motorola to have my back.
I'm a moron. Bumping this as a lesson to others

Easiest way to "clone" locked device to a dev edition?

So I picked up a Dev Edition XT1060 on swappa so I can get ARUnchained running on it, and was wondering what's the easiest way to clone my current locked, stock, unrooted XT1060 to the new one? I've had varying levels of success in the past with the Moto "Migrate" app, ADB backup/restore from the command line, and Helium, but was wondering if there is anything better out there now.
Don't think so, not on an unrooted device. Best you can do is helium for user apps and data.
And in my opinion....that's as far as you want to go. Restoring anything system related to a new device is asking for problems. ?
Wade-0 said:
So I picked up a Dev Edition XT1060 on swappa so I can get ARUnchained running on it, and was wondering what's the easiest way to clone my current locked, stock, unrooted XT1060 to the new one? I've had varying levels of success in the past with the Moto "Migrate" app, ADB backup/restore from the command line, and Helium, but was wondering if there is anything better out there now.
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KJ is right if you are going to a different phone.
But if rooted only & going to the same phone, as in a boot unlock which wipes data. You can (I have not tested) use "Online back up" apk with root only. At least on paper it should work .
See my links below.
aviwdoowks said:
KJ is right if you are going to a different phone.
But if rooted only & going to the same phone, as in a boot unlock which wipes data. You can (I have not tested) use "Online back up" apk with root only. At least on paper it should work .
See my links below.
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They are identical system images, AFAIK, so there shouldn't be anything different in the system files, and the DevEd has already been unlocked by the previous owner. So I don't think I need any of that stuff transferred anyway, which should cut down on the time involved. I haven't played around with trying to restore an ADB backup from a different device, so I'm not sure if there's going to be any issues there. The only time I've used that method was to backup my device before using RSD to flash a different factory image, and even then it wasn't a very smooth operation. I guess I'll just have to try it and find out
Wade-0 said:
They are identical system images, AFAIK, so there shouldn't be anything different in the system files, and the DevEd has already been unlocked by the previous owner. So I don't think I need any of that stuff transferred anyway, which should cut down on the time involved. I haven't played around with trying to restore an ADB backup from a different device, so I'm not sure if there's going to be any issues there. The only time I've used that method was to backup my device before using RSD to flash a different factory image, and even then it wasn't a very smooth operation. I guess I'll just have to try it and find out
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You cannot nandroid data from one phone to another!! See my post in the x Philz thread.
aviwdoowks said:
You cannot nandroid data from one phone to another!! See my post in the x Philz thread.
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Wasn't aware I could even nandroid an unrooted phone.
Edit: I'm wondering if maybe you misunderstood what I was talking about with the ADB backup/restore. Here's more information: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-nexus/general/guide-phone-backup-unlock-root-t1420351
From my early experience with Carbon (which is now called Helium) it was basically the same thing as the ADB backup/restore function, Carbon was just a user friendly wrapper for it. But I could be way off on that point, it just seemed like it was doing exactly the same thing in the background.
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Wasn't aware I could even nandroid an unrooted phone.
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I only figure that on "paper" the online BACKUP should work with root only. Not restore, mind you, that needs custom recovery. Which one would have after the obligatory data wipe which moto enforces to unlock.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/fyi-online-nandroid-backup-ready-t2762382
OP is not rooted. So why confuse the matter. ?
aviwdoowks said:
I only figure that on "paper" the online BACKUP should work with root only. Not restore, mind you, that needs custom recovery. Which one would have after the obligatory data wipe which moto enforces to unlock.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/fyi-online-nandroid-backup-ready-t2762382
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See my edited reply above. Also, the phone is already unlocked by the previous owner (bought it used on Swappa) so I only need to put custom recovery on it and root it, and whatever data transfer method I decide to use.
I thought I would post this also for those wanting a way to backup, while rooted, and then restore their nandroid when unlocked.

complete software backup Note 9

Hey everyone thanks to @BIOKNOX who recently helped me get my Note 9 working again, I want to make a complete software backup. A complete IMAGE of the current software so just in case something goes wrong, I could have somewhere to come back to. So I need help with that. I use twrp will that work? Is their a better software? Will Twrp work the way i want it to? Thank you in advance
BlackJackN9 said:
Hey everyone thanks to @BIOKNOX who recently helped me get my Note 9 working again, I want to make a complete software backup. A complete IMAGE of the current software so just in case something goes wrong, I could have somewhere to come back to. So I need help with that. I use twrp will that work? Is their a better software? Will Twrp work the way i want it to? Thank you in advance
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Since you're using TWRP then that's the best. Make a backup of all partitions. If there is a problem while restoring try to restore one by one, maybe some cannot be restored, can't say nothing here. But a nandroid TWRP backup is the way to go, yes.
koragg97 said:
Since you're using TWRP then that's the best. Make a backup of all partitions. If there is a problem while restoring try to restore one by one, maybe some cannot be restored, can't say nothing here. But a nandroid TWRP backup is the way to go, yes.
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You made me really happy then really sad. xD
anyways thanks
ill try them both.
koragg97 said:
Since you're using TWRP then that's the best. Make a backup of all partitions. If there is a problem while restoring try to restore one by one, maybe some cannot be restored, can't say nothing here. But a nandroid TWRP backup is the way to go, yes.
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Hey, I backed up the file in steps, cause I did not had a big SD card at hand. The problem I am facing is I cannot backup system image. How can I backup that file? Is it important? Btw all back ups are done using twrp and I just realised that I could have just backed everything up in the phone storage and then copied it all as one file on to my laptop.
BlackJackN9 said:
Hey, I backed up the file in steps, cause I did not had a big SD card at hand. The problem I am facing is I cannot backup system image. How can I backup that file? Is it important? Btw all back ups are done using twrp and I just realised that I could have just backed everything up in the phone storage and then copied it all as one file on to my laptop.
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I haven't had any experience with TWRP or such things on phones newer than the Galaxy S5. I don't see a point to root or tinker with my Note 9 as it's perfect stock so can't really test if i can backup the system image myself. All things are important in a backup, is it grayed out or something? I'd always do a full 1 backup though, not in parts. Seems easier to restore later.

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