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Hi
I installed titanium backup and now I want to backup the following items:
- All applications
- All System data like wireless passwords, etc
- All user data like contacts, sms, mms, dictionary and so on.
Can you please let me know which menu I should use?
thanks.
legolas.w said:
Hi
I installed titanium backup and now I want to backup the following items:
- All applications
- All System data like wireless passwords, etc
- All user data like contacts, sms, mms, dictionary and so on.
Can you please let me know which menu I should use?
thanks.
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Menu > Batch > Backup all user apps + system data
Thank you, Now I can install new ROMs with no worry about my SMS and MMS messages being lost.
legolas.w said:
Thank you, Now I can install new ROMs with no worry about my SMS and MMS messages being lost.
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I also
Will batch work on the TB free version?
If I remember correctly - in free version you can batch backup, but you can't batch restore, or the batch restore is limited speed.
When you batch restore with the free version, you have to confirm each one. Fun.
harolds said:
Menu > Batch > Backup all user apps + system data
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Thanks Man
Menu > Batch > Backup all user apps + system data : is there any difference between this and a nandroid backup? i mean does it make an image with EVERYTHING you have on your phone?
No it doesn't make an image of everything on the phone like a nandroid backup
A nandroid backup backs up the system, data, cache, and a few other things like ext and recovery depending on how you set it but a titanium backup just backs up apps and data (which are on the data and cache partitions).
You can also create an update.zip to put in your recovery folder and flash that way too. You can set a schedule to back up new, new versions or all. IMHO, pay the money. It has helped me in several instances. You can convert system to data or vice versa, un/attach apps to market and my favorite is you can clean your Dex right from the app.
Somewhere way back I thought folks were having issues restoring System with TB and recommended just doing apps/data--
Right or Wrong?
I like MyBackUp Pro as a quicker (non-nandroid) bu of system/sms/mms/call logs/home screens/settings etc
Ken
rugmankc said:
Somewhere way back I thought folks were having issues restoring System with TB and recommended just doing apps/data--
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Well, the issue is that some of the restored settings were conflicting with what was in there. If you restore system back to the same version (of CM or Android), then it should be problem free. But if you are restoring between nightlies of CM or major releases of stock, then options may have changed and restoring *can* cause conflicts that result in funky operations or bootloops. This doesn't happen all the time, but it has happened enough to me that I don't recommend it.
My recommendation is to just backup all your apps and app data (I also include TB's backup of wifi access points, bluetooth pairings, google accounts, call logs and sms messages). It really doesn't take too long to go and check all your settings. Plus it gives you the opportunity to see what new features were added.
And in all honesty, I am not sure MyBackup Pro would be any different in the above... both just backup the data and restore it. I think if one were to cause an issue, the other one would as well.
Thanks for info bass,
I never restore system with TB, only backup/restore apps--no issues
I started using My BackUp before rooted, so as to have a bu of things if root went wrong. Just kept using it
Never had an issue restoring system with My BackUp, even after a month of nightlies
Main thing I like it for is Home Screens--saves time after fresh flash
Ken
rugmankc said:
Main thing I like it for is Home Screens--saves time after fresh flash
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That is definitely a benefit to using a 3rd-party launcher. I use ADW EX and everything for that app is saved in the app data, so as soon as I restore the app I am back to normal (well, except for my widgets and the background, but there are only two widgets that I use). But I do definitely sympathize on not wanting to redo all your settings. I hate it when I forget something simple like changing the wifi back to never turn off.
Agreed--
I use ADW with CMN's but not EX. Haven't looked real close at its restore capabilities. But, My Back Up does CM/Sense/MIUI restores with Home Screens with no problems
Just comfortable with it--
titanium backup restored my adw ex just fine minus the widgets.
thank you i was looking for that.
I am going to reflash Serendipity 3.5.2 tonight. I backed up with MyBackupPro, but it didn't restore all of my apps and data - but SMS worked with that backup. I then restored my TB and my texting problem returned - I can't send any texts, but I can receive them. I get a messaging forced closed every time I try to send one.
My question is, can I go through that TB backup somehow and delete any reference to messaging and restore after that? How would one go through their backup and make this change? I want to restore with TB because it did a better job, but I don't want the problem back. Suggestions??
TiBu
I'd recommend Titanium Backup.
When you restore, only restore "Missing apps with data".
Restoring SMS stuff is a "system" function, and will not be restored. Then, you can go thru the list and VERY SELECTIVELY pick system items you do want restored, such as wifi access points, widgets, accounts, etc.
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I'd recommend Titanium Backup.
When you restore, only restore "Missing apps with data".
Restoring SMS stuff is a "system" function, and will not be restored. Then, you can go thru the list and VERY SELECTIVELY pick system items you do want restored, such as wifi access points, widgets, accounts, etc.
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Thank you for your help. What I need to know is how to selectively pick system items?
The other thing is I selected 'missing apps with data, yet still this messaging problem came back. I have deleted GO SMS completely, I'm not convinced it didn't cause my problems. I ran the batch operation to delete the deleted apps from the backup. I would really like to get rid of anything messaging before I restore this time, if that's possible. I see several possibilities:
com.android.mms-20110111-144642.properties
com.android.mms-20110111-144642.tar.gz
com.jb.mms-3accf7136245183972901f8fb5b026fb.apk.gz
com.jb.mms-55b6dd5aa915f6158b7664812f02edb1.apk.gz
com.jb.mms-20110111-144608.properties
com.jb.mms-20110111-144608.tar.gz
com.jb.mms-20110114-070110.properties
com.jb.mms-20110114-070110.tar.gz
com.jb.mms.theme.twothousandeleven3-7941f117b495bed787c418c01fffba93.apk.gz
com.jb.mms.theme.twothousandeleven3-20110111-144614.properties
com.jb.mms.theme.twothousandeleven3-20110111-144614.tar.gz
com.jb.mms.theme.twothousandelevenone-9144ecf9015eafef1a7a08e2cf02babb.apk.gz
com.jb.mms.theme.twothousandelevenone-20110111-144614.properties
com.jb.mms.theme.twothousandelevenone-20110111-144614.tar.gz
I believe the theme ones are for GO SMS, so they're probably ok to not bother with, but those first eight I think need to go. Can I delete them within TB somehow?
In TiBu system apps are red, system data is green, 3rd party is white.
The only reason to restore a system app is if you uninstalled it. Don't restore a system app from a previous ROM on a newer ROM. Don't restore system data from older Android versions (i.e. 2.1 -> 2.2) because the data format may be different. If you know you need settings for a system app, restore data only. Test it, and if it fails, go back and delete only data. There's a "Wipe data" for those.
The green ones are what you're most likely interested in. Tap one, hit restore. It's that easy. If you don't know what it does, stop there, exit TiBu and test everything to find what changed. If something stops working, go back to that item in TiBu and uninstall it (Green items only) and it should work again.
But before doing any of that, a nandroid backup will save lots of time of you crash the phone.
Ok, so basically I'd have to go through and restore one by one - tedious, but may be necessary. I was hoping I'd be able to delete files from the backup and then run the batch. Well, to keep texting I think that's what I'll have to do. I do have a Nandroid backup of my Assonance installation (but that may have the texting problem in it, too, it started on Assonance). Thank you so much for the help!
reinbeau said:
Ok, so basically I'd have to go through and restore one by one - tedious, but may be necessary. I was hoping I'd be able to delete files from the backup and then run the batch. Well, to keep texting I think that's what I'll have to do. I do have a Nandroid backup of my Assonance installation (but that may have the texting problem in it, too, it started on Assonance). Thank you so much for the help!
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I always restore"all missing apps with data". Then I selectively restore wifi access points and widgets. Sometimes the widgets don't restore properly, but I've never had it cause any problems.
k2snowboards88 said:
I always restore"all missing apps with data". Then I selectively restore wifi access points and widgets. Sometimes the widgets don't restore properly, but I've never had it cause any problems.
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ee, that's the problem, I didn't restore system data, I restored apps and data - and somehow my previous texting problem appeared again. When I flashed last night, texting worked. Eureka, I was thrilled. But all of my stuff wasn't back. I set the path for my TB backup on my external card, did my restore, and no more texting. Very frustrating. I want my data, but I may end up starting from scratch, or going one by one as CuriousTech has suggested.
Right. It's really pretty quick once you get the hang of it.
Backup all user apps + system data.
Restore missing apps with data. Go through and uncheck anything you don't need, then let it run. Often times I do a restore of app+data of apps I know have important data, then again with app only of games and such, but it's not necessary.
Then manually go through the green items.
Since most ROM updates require fully wiping memory, restoring data is an essential step. Simply restoring the SD-Card, photos, music, etc, is not sufficient. There are many other types of data, such as call history, SMS/MMS messages, Wi-Fi networks and passwords, bluetooth pairings, etc. that need to be restored also to return the phone to its working state again.
Several ROM developers have cautioned to not use Titanium Backup to restore system data with their ROM. As alternates, I have seen suggestions to use MyBackupPro, Samsung account, or others.
Could someone explain (or reference a thread that explains) the differences between these types of backup/restore? What are the underlying issues that have to be kept in mind? How do these different backup programs save and restore the data? Which are suitable for ROMs that change the system structure? What is the full set of backup restore options that are compatible or incompatible with various ROM updates?
Could the Titanium Backup XML data format be compatible with all ROMs even if the binary format isn't?
Personally, I restore my apps using TiBackup all the time. And I use superbackup to restore sms, call logs, contacts.
Never really had a problem.
Maybe when restoring across a new build there could b issues.
But other than that, restore whatever the he** you want. Lol
Cheers
Here is one reply I received regarding restoring from Titanium.
For the Rapture ROM, iB4STiD says:
Q. CAN I RESTORE SYSTEM DATA WITH TITANIUM BACKUP ?
A. NO!! THIS INCLUDES CALL LOGS, SMS, AS WELL AS APPS AND THERE DATA!! OTHER WISE YOU WILL HAVE APPS FC, AND OTHER ODDITIES!
Here is a response from an earlier question from a different developer.
I'm not familiar with SuperBackupPro - does it do anything different than MyBackupPro? I'm trying to figure out what aspect of the different backup/restore programs is or is not compatible with system data.
You should never use Titanium Backup to restore system apps or data since they are built for a different rom and will most probably cause problems. I always use TiBu to restore user apps and data. I use SMS Backup and Restore for text messages. I don't care about call logs but I would think that there are apps that can back these up. I re-setup bluetooth and wifi from scratch since that only takes seconds. Note that some roms I have tried over the years have cautioned not to use TiBu to restore anything, but have worked anyway for user apps and data. Some roms do really not allow you to restore anything (odex instead of deodex perhaps - I am not sure) since TiBu just hangs when it is trying to restore. When this occurs, I just flash a different rom since I would not take the time it requires to set them up from scratch.
I have never had a full wipe delete any pictures or other media but then I never wipe the internal or external cards, just system, data, and caches.
I always use tibu for user apps and data and the xml format in tibu for sms and call logs. Have done this for as long as I can remember over at least 5 phones. I even move backups from phone to phone and rom to rom. (went nexus 5 to note 4 to another note 4 and from cm13 back to kk).
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nine5raptor said:
I always use tibu for user apps and data and the xml format in tibu for sms and call logs. Have done this for as long as I can remember over at least 5 phones. I even move backups from phone to phone and rom to rom. (went nexus 5 to note 4 to another note 4 and from cm13 back to kk).
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Thanks for clarifying. I thought TiBu's XML format would be safe, but I'm glad to have confirmation. That covers the main requirement for restoring.
timg11 said:
Thanks for clarifying. I thought TiBu's XML format would be safe, but I'm glad to have confirmation. That covers the main requirement for restoring.
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I use the standard backup and restore for apps. I just use the xml for sms and call log.
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This is probably very noob of me but I'll ask it anyways...... This just dawned on me to back up everything via titanium Backup then use the file to restore on new custom ROMs. Instead if using Google back up to download everytime. Can I presumably download like Pico gapps with virtually nothing, back up all my user and system apps with titanium Backup then restore everything everything on the new rom and I'll have all the apps and system apps from my previous rom?
If I back up user apps and system apps with titanium Backup then restore will my call logs, texts, etc also be installed?
mikeprius said:
This is probably very noob of me but I'll ask it anyways...... This just dawned on me to back up everything via titanium Backup then use the file to restore on new custom ROMs. Instead if using Google back up to download everytime. Can I presumably download like Pico gapps with virtually nothing, back up all my user and system apps with titanium Backup then restore everything everything on the new rom and I'll have all the apps and system apps from my previous rom?
If I back up user apps and system apps with titanium Backup then restore will my call logs, texts, etc also be installed?
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Rule #1 as you will see as you get more into this you NEVER restore "system" apps this will create FC - force closures and errors all day long. Only restore user apps and data.
If coming from a Samsung going to a Nexus for example, you would TiBu all your users apps/data on Samsung to restore to Nexus. You do not have to restore the Google backup you can...but more senior people like me setup device as a new device. Google restore does not bring over your user data and settings like TiBu will. TiBu will give you exactly what the app was like on the old device....google will not in majority of cases...for me none.
- TiBu user app/data and no system data
- Setup new device as new and restore TiBu app/data. Can do the Google it you like and then let TiBu overwrite it
You can install the Pico gapps. Let's say you had a new rom without Google Newstand...even if it was not in the gapps your TiBu would restore it just fine with no issues.... But the gapps does add other background google services you need not visible to eye like apps...but the apps can fully come from your backup even if they dont exist on the new device.
No you will not get your call log, etc since you do not restore system info. But there are third party apps that can back that up if that is that important. I use apps like Textra and not device messaging apps so when TiBu restores Textra I get it all back old messages\etc....again you do not want to restore 'red' system apps but find 3rd party apps that backup call log, text (if google app), etc.
What if it's the same device but different rom. Would restoring system apps also create issues
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What if it's the same device but different rom. Would restoring system apps also create issues
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Still you do not want to do that....you could be dealing with a phone that is the same but the build version of the OS could be different and those systems updates could have different version numbers. So restoring systems adds that are not exact as the previous could result in bad situation.
If you are going from same device to same device, then you can backup...do a TWRP or Nandroid backup which will give you an image backup of exactly what you have with data and system.
If you do a full backup, you could experiment and gamble doing it your way and if it goes back...just restore the backup.
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Still you do not want to do that....you could be dealing with a phone that is the same but the build version of the OS could be different and those systems updates could have different version numbers. So restoring systems adds that are not exact as the previous could result in bad situation.
If you are going from same device to same device, then you can backup...do a TWRP or Nandroid backup which will give you an image backup of exactly what you have with data and system.
If you do a full backup, you could experiment and gamble doing it your way and if it goes back...just restore the backup.
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Thanks for the info. I'll just stick with the user apps and back them into a folder. You also recommended textra for texts? So it will just back up like a normal user app and you can keep all your text messages that way?
Just wondering the above. I'll be sending my Note9 in to Samsung for repair, which entails a factory reset. I'd like to backup my apps, app data (e.g. logins), & phone settings before the factory reset, and then restore them when I get the phone back?
What's the best way to do this? Is Smart Switch the best solution, or should I use something else?
jdrch said:
Just wondering the above. I'll be sending my Note9 in to Samsung for repair, which entails a factory reset. I'd like to backup my apps, app data (e.g. logins), & phone settings before the factory reset, and then restore them when I get the phone back?
What's the best way to do this? Is Smart Switch the best solution, or should I use something else?
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I don't think smart switch could backup apps data or whole phone setting. It could backup messages, contact, apps and call history maybe.
Perhaps samsung cloud could do more but never use it either.
With root, swift backup/titanium backup could backup apps data. Not sure about backup/restore of whole phone setting though.
TWRP recovery backup all .
Smart Switch backs everything up, except the Apps and Secure Folder, but it will backup everything about the apps except the app, so their settings are restored but the app is automatically downloaded.