Skin irritation from radiation? - Samsung Gear Live

I've used Gear Live for about a week now, using day and night except when charging for 2 hours. So far, I love the functionality, but I just noticed this today.
I felt some very slight skin irritation after wearing this device for an extended period of time. It feels kinda like using electric blanket for a very long time, where it feels like something cool is touching the skin rather than something hot (I dont know if this makes sense or not...). However, the device never gets hotter than my skin. It doesnt get warm at all.
I looked up briefly and found one user reporting Gear 2 Neo gives off high amount of radiation (http://forums.androidcentral.com/sa...8-super-high-emf-radiation-my-gear-2-neo.html). I'm guessing the Gear Live has similar problem, but with out proper knowledge on this matter, I can only guess.
Has anyone felt this while using their watch, or am I just being paranoid?

These devices aren't high-powered enough for EMF radiation to cause that sort of effect. Ionizing radiation would, but consumer electronics don't cause that.

kmckmc said:
I've used Gear Live for about a week now, using day and night except when charging for 2 hours. So far, I love the functionality, but I just noticed this today.
I felt some very slight skin irritation after wearing this device for an extended period of time. It feels kinda like using electric blanket for a very long time, where it feels like something cool is touching the skin rather than something hot (I dont know if this makes sense or not...). However, the device never gets hotter than my skin. It doesnt get warm at all.
I looked up briefly and found one user reporting Gear 2 Neo gives off high amount of radiation (http://forums.androidcentral.com/sa...8-super-high-emf-radiation-my-gear-2-neo.html). I'm guessing the Gear Live has similar problem, but with out proper knowledge on this matter, I can only guess.
Has anyone felt this while using their watch, or am I just being paranoid?
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I dont have this problem at all. Could it possibly be that you might have some allergic reaction to the plastic housing or something else on the watch?

kmckmc said:
I've used Gear Live for about a week now, using day and night except when charging for 2 hours. So far, I love the functionality, but I just noticed this today.
I felt some very slight skin irritation after wearing this device for an extended period of time. It feels kinda like using electric blanket for a very long time, where it feels like something cool is touching the skin rather than something hot (I dont know if this makes sense or not...). However, the device never gets hotter than my skin. It doesnt get warm at all.
I looked up briefly and found one user reporting Gear 2 Neo gives off high amount of radiation (http://forums.androidcentral.com/sa...8-super-high-emf-radiation-my-gear-2-neo.html). I'm guessing the Gear Live has similar problem, but with out proper knowledge on this matter, I can only guess.
Has anyone felt this while using their watch, or am I just being paranoid?
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The skin irritation could be the same as the LG G watch which they just announced a fix. But basically the G watch kept the charging contacts active even when not charging causing the user slight electrical burns and corroding the charge contacts....
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http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/0...aintenance-update-fix-charging-pin-corrosion/
I've not experienced anything like it on my gear live and i'm usually quite sensitive to that sort of thing

Brendo said:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/0...aintenance-update-fix-charging-pin-corrosion/
I've not experienced anything like it on my gear live and i'm usually quite sensitive to that sort of thing
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With the G-Watch its a small percentage so maybe the guy who created this thread has a dud
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It doesn't happen always for me either, and this could be the same issue as the G Watch. I hope this is the case. Though I don't think my skin was in contact every time. Ever since I started wearing the watch loosely, I experience this less often.
Also there is no corrosion buildup on my watch at all. Clean as new.

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Overheating

Hi,
Ive had a few problems with my One but I've stuck with it, more commonly the heat of the phone when playing games. I play all kinds when on the way to work on the tube (its boring) I play candy crush at the moment ( I loathe and love that game) the thing is what I've noticed is that the phone heats up to a point where it feels slightly uncomfortable. Does anyone else have this problem? I know that the likes of real racing 3 makes the phone hot but does anyone else have this same problem with the likes of candy crush (a relatively simple game)
As a test, play the game for 10 - 15 minutes and see how the phone feels in your hand. For me its s bit hot, this is my third and probably not my last HTC one. For me all three have had the same heat problem. Every day tasks are fine, just gaming knocks the heat up quite a bit.
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dladz said:
Hi,
Ive had a few problems with my One but I've stuck with it, more commonly the heat of the phone when playing games. I play all kinds when on the way to work on the tube (its boring) I play candy crush at the moment ( I loathe and love that game) the thing is what I've noticed is that the phone heats up to a point where it feels slightly uncomfortable. Does anyone else have this problem? I know that the likes of real racing 3 makes the phone hot but does anyone else have this same problem with the likes of candy crush (a relatively simple game)
As a test, play the game for 10 - 15 minutes and see how the phone feels in your hand. For me its s bit hot, this is my third and probably not my last HTC one. For me all three have had the same heat problem. Every day tasks are fine, just gaming knocks the heat up quite a bit.
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This sounds exactly like what mine does, except it happens with any activity if the activity is long enough (from gaming to simple web browsing). After about 15 to 30 minutes my battery will be between 37-41C, not making the phone burning to the touch but hot enough to make my hands sweat and holding the device uncomfortable. I was thinking because metal is such a great conductor that this is just a result of the build materials but I'm not sure
It could indeed be an issue of aluminum being an excellent conductor of heat.
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Same here, my EVO burns up when I play games for a longer time. The difference is that the EVO 3d has plastic on the back, not aluminium. I think it's HTC's problem...
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I know that the HTC's of old have had heat issues, primarily the One X had some problems but there have been many more.
I just noticed it when i first got the phone, its really quite a thin phone so i suppose some heat in there is expected, but when playing the likes of candy crush, doesn't appear to be a demanding game compared to the likes of rr3 or a psx emulator. I'm just worried about the long term implications on the internals, is it going to shorten the life of the components? I know my pc is as cool as a cucumber and i'm always on top of cooling with that but theres not a huge amount i can actually do with the phone.
Maybe a cooling pad on a case? Do they even make those?
Could just be an early batch and like i said, mine for the most part is cool, it's just gaming.
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It could indeed be an issue of aluminum being an excellent conductor of heat.
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Yea i'd thought that, would be good if they'd popped a heat vent in there but it'd ruin the aesthetics of the phone i suppose, it is after all a very pretty phone.
CrappyAlloy said:
This sounds exactly like what mine does, except it happens with any activity if the activity is long enough (from gaming to simple web browsing). After about 15 to 30 minutes my battery will be between 37-41C, not making the phone burning to the touch but hot enough to make my hands sweat and holding the device uncomfortable. I was thinking because metal is such a great conductor that this is just a result of the build materials but I'm not sure
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Well i'm glad it's not just me anyway I'm going to speak with the people who buy it in my place of work and see if theirs has any of the same issues because if they don't then i'll be swapping it out.
Oh and mines the silver one, not sure if it makes any difference or not.

I disagree with the bad reviews, this thing is BADA$$.

Been using my Galaxy Gear since Friday, had the weekend to play with it and in my honest opinion those bad reviewers were smoking something. =)
First off, they say there is lag and it's slow to respond. I'm VERY sensitive to lag and I have yet to find any lag on it, the UI is very smooth for me. It registers all of my swipes first try. The only real "slowdown" is S-Voice, but it's really not that bad considering it has to fetch the information and communicate with the phone.
Second they say the camera is mediocre. I disagree, I think the camera is GREAT on a tiny little device like this especially macro shots. Sample attached.
Third, some say it's uncomfortable, I found out after wearing for 10 minutes I hardly notice it on my wrist. It's just as comfortable as any other large men's watch while having a very sleek modern look to it.
Most importantly it doesn't feel like a beta product to me at all, everything works GREAT, it integrates very well with my Note 3. All the things I thought I'd have issues with turns out to be non-issues. I use the stock email client for Gmail and it works fantastic. Battery life is GREAT in day to day use, I went through a whole day of moderate use and still ended with 40 percent life left. It's the perfect companion device for me, I never miss anymore emails, phone calls or text messages. It has a very reliable bluetooth connection, only disconnecting when I'm too far out of range.
Being notified of an email or text message with a discreet little vibration on your wrist during a meeting or movie is priceless. Seeing people's face in awe when you answer a call from your watch never gets old. I'm a cyclist and this thing will be a godsend, I always would have to stop in the middle of a nice ride to check my phone when I receive a text just to see if it's important. Now I can just glance down at my wrist and keep on rolling if it's not urgent.
Lastly, this thing is a chick magnet lol. I had 3 ladies asking me about the watch while standing in line at a show, granted one was like 50+ but still. Chicks see the commercial and they get LOVE IT. I'm happy to report I love it also.
the idea behind the gear is great, but samsung did not impress me with features out of the box. admit it, smartwatch could be done 10 times better, even for 1st generation.
comparing features (except for camera/phone functionality) sony smartwatch 2 has most of them too, and it's like 2.5 times cheaper.
i'm not being cheap or greedy, but paying 300 euros for beta product is way too much in my opinion. i guess it will all change once there are custom roms and more software, but still, this thing should be a beast out of the box on the release day! why do we always have to wait for updates?
Dan37tz said:
Lastly, this thing is a chick magnet lol..
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Agree it is smooth and fast in operation, and as for ladies.... my wife and her daughter want one! Guess I married the right young lady :highfive:
You're preaching to the choir. Great hardware... Love the phone, SVoice and notifications.
I think your just wrong i understand if €300 is a lot of money for you to pay but is it fair to criticise a product because you think it's expensive.
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thats why i never trust reviewers, remember what they said about the original note? lol
I totally agree with the OP. This device is already great and will get much better.
it's expensive for the things it does. they should include things like sms writing support, full e/gmail browser, web browser, easy way to customize 'clock screen', timer, stopwatch, compass, flashlight (white screen), maps and full notification support i could justify the 300 euros price tag. but at the moment it really lacks simple features, or they are done in an annoying way.
I agree with you
Software software software.... All I read is moans and groans about bloody software. They will come, this is new technology in terms of software.
The real problems are the hardware and that we can do zero about. WHO in their right minds makes a wrist watch that is only water resistant to IP55 ie splashes or minor-some contact with water. If this watch gets a soaking even in the rain it will become a brick.
The clasp. It has the most infamous type of clasp used in the watch trade. There are already threads on this very topic that I warned about when the Gear thread section opened. The sort of clasp is just totally unacceptable for a watch in this price range. The camera is great when there is no moisture on the lens, that hole at the back of the lens needs to be sealed with tape.
The idea, the concept and design are great the software will come BUT this watch may not last long enough to take advantage of further software development. Like it, love it or hate it we cannot blindly enjoy the James Bond feeling for a month or two only, There are several severe hardware features that truly should have been sorted before this came on the market. I hate having to remove this watch every time I go near water and need to immerse my hands. That clasp is already starting to show signs of not closing correctly and those who bend that tiny spigot will soon realise that that bending only resolves the problem for a short time as once we start bending that spigot it weakens the metal and eventually leads to complete clasp failure.
I, like the OP, like the concept and enjoy the experience of ownership but only to a point. I fear a number of those who crow loudly now will soon be writing here about these problems.
I do find it idiotic that some owners have returned their watch due to the lack of software! That is the least of my concerns. This is not a well developed watch. It is also very expensive here in Europe. I don't even want to start the comparison game BUT how does Sony manage to make their devices far more water resistant yet Samsung cannot? OH and don't forget for those of us who live in hot climates its not only rain that causes the damage its also perspiration. Some guys have actually made their own wrist bands to go under the watch strap to prevent perspiration problems! Absurd for us to need to do this.
I do suggest we have a balanced and realistic review of the Gear. It simply isn't all bad and its far from perfect. Its rather clever in so many ways yet.....mmmmmm, not yet there.
Kind regards.
I love the watch, and I too have found a way to wear it and not even notice it's on my wrist.
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Ryland Johnson said:
Software software software.... All I read is moans and groans about bloody software. They will come, this is new technology in terms of software.
The real problems are the hardware and that we can do zero about. WHO in their right minds makes a wrist watch that is only water resistant to IP55 ie splashes or minor-some contact with water. If this watch gets a soaking even in the rain it will become a brick.
The clasp. It has the most infamous type of clasp used in the watch trade. There are already threads on this very topic that I warned about when the Gear thread section opened. The sort of clasp is just totally unacceptable for a watch in this price range. The camera is great when there is no moisture on the lens, that hole at the back of the lens needs to be sealed with tape.
The idea, the concept and design are great the software will come BUT this watch may not last long enough to take advantage of further software development. Like it, love it or hate it we cannot blindly enjoy the James Bond feeling for a month or two only, There are several severe hardware features that truly should have been sorted before this came on the market. I hate having to remove this watch every time I go near water and need to immerse my hands. That clasp is already starting to show signs of not closing correctly and those who bend that tiny spigot will soon realise that that bending only resolves the problem for a short time as once we start bending that spigot it weakens the metal and eventually leads to complete clasp failure.
I, like the OP, like the concept and enjoy the experience of ownership but only to a point. I fear a number of those who crow loudly now will soon be writing here about these problems.
I do find it idiotic that some owners have returned their watch due to the lack of software! That is the least of my concerns. This is not a well developed watch. It is also very expensive here in Europe. I don't even want to start the comparison game BUT how does Sony manage to make their devices far more water resistant yet Samsung cannot? OH and don't forget for those of us who live in hot climates its not only rain that causes the damage its also perspiration. Some guys have actually made their own wrist bands to go under the watch strap to prevent perspiration problems! Absurd for us to need to do this.
I do suggest we have a balanced and realistic review of the Gear. It simply isn't all bad and its far from perfect. Its rather clever in so many ways yet.....mmmmmm, not yet there.
Kind regards.
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I disagree with your watch clasp opinion. At first I didn't think I'd like it, but to me, they implemented it well (especially with incorporating the speaker bulge). The bulge of speaker however can get annoying when resting your arm (eg typing on keyboard), but then again I usually take any watch off as even just the standard small, pin in hole type clips annoy me
I think we all agree on the lack of waterproofing and moisture issues needing improvement though...
On a side note, also don't think it's a beta product. It's a proper full release. Just they have a couple of improvements to make like any other first gen thing. First gen does not equal beta!
love mine
galaxy note 3
Love mine, specially now that I have loaded music, videos, apps, email and text work flawlessly, added personal notifications and ringtones. Do I need to go on, this Gear is not supposed to overtake your phone but rather complement it. The apps are coming soon from the developers making this a big success for Samsung.
Ian. B
I just waterproffed my gear with this ! One year waterproofed !! Easy done!
http://www.nanostate.co/
Jeshter2000 said:
I just waterproffed my gear with this ! One year waterproofed !! Easy done!
http://www.nanostate.co/
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Have you or anyone else done this before? I'm curious as how it works and will/does it affect the feel of the phone/watch?
I'm very paranoid about getting my Gear wet. Something like this would be great.
daddyd302 said:
Have you or anyone else done this before? I'm curious as how it works and will/does it affect the feel of the phone/watch?
I'm very paranoid about getting my Gear wet. Something like this would be great.
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Nope never used it before.. But you arent getting your gear wet when Applying it. You just make a paper towel wet with the stuff and start rubbing your Gear in with the solution . Then wipe it off with a dry cloth and tadaa you Gear in nano coated...
Will make a video when I find myself having the time.
The reason I bought this was i was paranoid too when I went to the toilet and needed to wash my hands. Now that is all gone...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNnbU2qn0HA
I agree, I'm really happy with my device, within the first 20 minutes of pairing it to my Note 3 I received a call while I was dressing my son and what do you know my wrist starts ringing and i took a call hands free, my note was on the kitchen bench in the other room. I didnt need to hold my wrist up to my mouth and I could hear clearly and likewise to the person on my call. I look at emails/text messages while in meetings, this feature is really handy, I dont feel as rude by looking at my watch, with one tap of the screen I can read a message. Battery life is good, I can get 2-3 days with moderate usage no problems. At the end of the day $360 for a watch that pairs with my phone is a good deal, considering how much you would pay for a half decent watch. This is something I will stick to now and in the future, for my watch.
$300 for the Gear is fine..The watch design itself is worth the $300, think about a Rolex, or other expensive watches which cost $1000+. The Gear looks just as good as the expensive watches, plus you can do more with the Gear... Much Much more.
Reviews are like Arsewholes, everyone does one, and all of them stink!! Think for yourself, if you don't like it you can always return it..
GEAR UNLEASHED!!!!
I think the main reasons for the bad reviews are the price and that it only (officially) works with the Note 3, for now.
The price doesn't bother me as much since I got Best Buy to match that 30% coupon deal. But considering about a year ago, I spent $170 on a Casio G-Shock that does nothing more than tell me the date, time, and tide tables. Big deal. Decent watches cost money, even $300 is on the lower end.
What I never understood was how these reviewers gush about the Pebble, which has zero appeal to me - and I'm a gadget freak too! The reviews frequently compare the Pebble to the Gear, which is silly because the Gear is on a whole other level! They all talk about how the Pebble has so many apps and the Gear is lacking... how long has the Gear been out, 3 weeks?? Apps will come, not at all worried about that.
I also have no idea what the reviews are talking about re: camera quality. It's like they read the 1.9 MP spec and immediately dismiss it as a crap camera. Photos looks great for what it is, I was actually amazed at how well they looked. My only complaint about the camera is that there is no official way to turn off the shutter sounds, lol.

Galaxy Gear real life experience

hello everybody,
I just purchased a GG yesterday, after reading a lot of your posts and thank you all for it. What convinced me was the new update that brings full notifications and better battery life. So far, I like it a lot, but of course 1 day is not enough.
There are 2 things I would like to ask other owners, who might have had it for longer time.
I read the post about the IP55 rating, but I would like to know if somebody really dropped it in water (most likely unintentionally), drop some water/liquid on it, got heavy rain, ecc. In other words, something more than washing hands or sweat.
Second point regards scratches. There are a lot of posts about this all over Internet, but very controversial. I would like to know if any of you had any scracth on the glass, the case or the buckle. If any of you experinced any serious bump, drops and so forth. I read somewhere that the GG has sapphire glass, but I seriously doubt it, as usually these glasses are very expensive and are used mostly on more expensive watches.
Thining logically, Samsung should have considered these issues, as after all, it is a watch and you want to wear it, so some kind of protection shluld be there. But I learnt that logic does not always work.
Any advice/experience you would like to share will be much appreciated!!!
Thank you very much,
Roger
I am using GEAR since end of OCT.
- water resistance - rain, drops of water is OK for the watch - if You search the forum you will even find the movie with the gear under kitchen tap water flowing on it. It is NOT ok for shower, swimming, diving etc. Generally - keep it away from water when possible. GEAR build quality is OK
If You wonder how SONY watch behaves - check their forum - a lot of complains and quality issues in general like http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2574988
- scratch resistance - Gear glass is NOT scratch resistant! it scratches very easy so keep it away from any hard objects, sand, metal, etc. Generally speaking- with the product life of maximum 1 year ( yes, we may expect GEAR II not later than September 2014) scratch resistance is not so important, and Samsung for sure will not use sapphire for the glass - it is too expensive.
I've had mine since day one and no problem with it whatsoever. I don't take it off when I wash my hands just careful not getting it wet.
Battery life is pretty strong as you go about two days. Don't have any scratches on it so far but I'm pretty careful when I'm around walls/tables/desks.
Ian B
Mr Ian B said:
I've had mine since day one and no problem with it whatsoever. I don't take it off when I wash my hands just careful not getting it wet.
Battery life is pretty strong as you go about two days. Don't have any scratches on it so far but I'm pretty careful when I'm around walls/tables/desks.
Ian B
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Same here ^^^
I have washed my hands with mine on and have gotten water on it (even into the speaker area) no problems so far. Regarding scratched, I put on a skinomi shield (invisible shield type). Looks awesome! Super clear and can barely see it's on. I got the full body which has a cover for under the watch (not too sure why you would need it but I put on since it came with it). I should let you know that with the full body cover, the charger takes some work to get it to close but it's definitely close-able. Have fun with you new gear. I know I am.
Picked up a galaxy gear with carbon fiber skin protector from skinomi and it came with a screen protector too. Bought extra screen protectors off Amazon just in case. Everything running great and not worries about scratches anymore. Still very cautious around water though.
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Had mine for awhile as well. I don't worry about washing my hands or rain. Just wouldn't submerge it to be on the safer side. Scratches... The speaker clasp is pretty scratched up but I'm not too concerned about it. As for the face, I have hit/bumped/scraped on things such as desk, doors, walls, etc. So far it has held up well with no noticeable scratches. However I always worry every time I do bump it.
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I know this is a slightly callous thing to say, but suddenly watches have fallen into the bi-yearly replaceable category.
No longer are they finely hand crafted devices that merely tell you just the time (and sometimes the date), they are an extension of your phone. Generally my analogue time pieces would last me anywhere between 5-15 years. This is technology though and we all know it can become out of date very quickly. It's sad and I dislike this fact, but I know that in a year or two I will want to upgrade to keep up with the Jones'. Not just that, I guarantee the Note 6 won't support the original Gear.
We're stuck in the cycle now!
My gear has me essentially committed to samsung now. I usually switch out phones alot but no more. No nexus 5 for me I guess. I wish I didn't have to use some weird workaround to get it to work with another phone
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Skinomi Full Body Cover: Clasp Section Won't Adhere?
WRichieX said:
I have washed my hands with mine on and have gotten water on it (even into the speaker area) no problems so far. Regarding scratched, I put on a skinomi shield (invisible shield type). Looks awesome! Super clear and can barely see it's on. I got the full body which has a cover for under the watch (not too sure why you would need it but I put on since it came with it). I should let you know that with the full body cover, the charger takes some work to get it to close but it's definitely close-able. Have fun with you new gear. I know I am.
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Were you able to get the Skinomi clasp cover to stay on? Mine was very difficult to get on to begin with and I could never get the corners to adhere properly. Within a couple days, the corners were full of dirt. Skinomi sent me a new one, but same problem. Is there a trick to get the corners to stay down, or is the clasp cover just useless?
I am sure you ll enjoy your gg . I just bought one purely to be used when I am out on my motorbike as it will be alot easier to see who calls etc without reaching to my phone with gloves and stuff.
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jonboyuk said:
I know this is a slightly callous thing to say, but suddenly watches have fallen into the bi-yearly replaceable category.
No longer are they finely hand crafted devices that merely tell you just the time (and sometimes the date), they are an extension of your phone. Generally my analogue time pieces would last me anywhere between 5-15 years. This is technology though and we all know it can become out of date very quickly. It's sad and I dislike this fact, but I know that in a year or two I will want to upgrade to keep up with the Jones'. Not just that, I guarantee the Note 6 won't support the original Gear.
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Learn some basic electronics work and you'll be able to keep stuff running for much longer. That won't help with stuff that just get outdated to the point where they're no longer useful, but I don't see all that much application for more processing power in a watch. In a few years, just open it up and swap the battery with one purchased for a few dollars on a site like HobbyKing.
NiHaoMike said:
Learn some basic electronics work and you'll be able to keep stuff running for much longer. That won't help with stuff that just get outdated to the point where they're no longer useful, but I don't see all that much application for more processing power in a watch. In a few years, just open it up and swap the battery with one purchased for a few dollars on a site like HobbyKing.
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I don't need to know much about electronics to know that paying for Battery no matter how cheap, at HobbyKing or at the street corner against someone no longer useful is both immoral and illegal.
klau1 said:
I don't need to know much about electronics to know that paying for Battery no matter how cheap, at HobbyKing or at the street corner against someone no longer useful is both immoral and illegal.
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By the same logic, once the battery goes dead in your car, it's time to buy a new car because replacing the battery is "immoral and illegal". There's nothing wrong with trying to fix something you own.
This is truly an informative thread, thanks for all the detailed replies.
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klau1 said:
I don't need to know much about electronics to know that paying for Battery no matter how cheap, at HobbyKing or at the street corner against someone no longer useful is both immoral and illegal.
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Maybe there is a language barrier issue, but Klau1, if it is your watch then of course you can replace the battery in it with a new one. This is not immoral or illegal in any way.
highlordkram said:
Maybe there is a language barrier issue, but Klau1, if it is your watch then of course you can replace the battery in it with a new one. This is not immoral or illegal in any way.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battery_(crime)
klau1 said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battery_(crime)
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Lol. There is DEFINITELY a language barrier it seems.....
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battery_(electricity)
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@jonboyuk: It turns out the Note 4 doesn't even support the original Gear.
Tati F said:
@jonboyuk: It turns out the Note 4 doesn't even support the original Gear.
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It's working fine on my T-Mobile Note 4 running fireKat rom
Edit... Mostly fine. The usual unlock issue

Keep phone cool while charging (wireless/wired)

Hey everyone. I'm new to the Nexus 5 community, got my phone a week ago and so far it feels like ive had it for ever. Great device and so worth my limited money.
Anyways. I have been doing these methods on all my phones and so far i haven't seen anyone else trying this.
1. Speed cool your phone
If you have a heat sink from an old pc laying around (unless its one of those huge gaming computer heat sinks) it can now have a purpose again. If your phone gets hot, simply put the heatsink copper side up and put your phone on it. about 2 minutes later your phone should be as cool as it can get without using a freezer.
2. Keep phone cool while wireless charging.
I got a wireless charger recently, and sometimes the phone doesn't get hot at all, and other times it gets VERY hot (about 115 degrees F). So instead of finding the 'perfect' position for my phone to stay cool, i found that using simple cup stands or what ever they are called, helps.
You know those things at restaurants that you put your cup on? those things. For best effect, use 2 or 3 of these, put them under your phone while your phone is on the wireless charger. I think it helps because the cardboard isn't very dense and absorbs and quickly lets off most of the heat and my phone never got over 101 degrees F yet.
3. The first method can also be used while charging your phone though a wire.
Sometimes i want to watch a movie or something while charging my phone on a wire, i simply put it ontop of the heatsink and watch the movie. Might be a bit uncomfortable, so try to found a way for it to be comfortable.
Hope this helps anyone, im still working on a way to make a home made (thin) heat sink for wireless charging.
heat sink testing
So far ive built the heatsink, its about 6 - 7 mm thick using those cardboard cup stand things mentioned above, coper wire, and silicone, and some superglue. i thought tape (specifically the adhesive) would melt under heat.
So far, i have charged my phone all the way up from 20%, temeprature hit 118 degrees F (note this is wireless charging).
Currently testing the heat sink. Charging it up from 85 %. So far at 92% and max temperature is 97F but has gone down to 96F. The heat sink is pretty warm compared to the phone (the phone is actually quite cool).
If you would like to mess around with the design this is how i built it.
Took one cardboard cup plate and put a copper coil on it. I just took about 10 inches of copper wire (thin kind) and made it into a wide coil (ill post pictures later), and then hammered it to be more or less flat. Put small amounts of superglue to hold it in place. Took the second cardboard plate, and put it on top. Used silicone to seal the edge to hold. Also add some super glue to the top of the coil to glue it to the top cardboard piece.
Simply put the heatsink under the phone while wireless charging.
Pictures of heatsink
Here are the pictures.
Ill post screenshots later of the test.
I do the same thing for wireless charging. Instead of making one, I bought a set of ceramic/porcelain/granite (I don't really know) coasters. I used one coaster for wireless charging, and four more under my laptop for when it is on the counter or table (keeps it cool and above any drinks that may spill).
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I do the same thing for wireless charging. Instead of making one, I bought a set of ceramic/porcelain/granite (I don't really know) coasters. I used one coaster for wireless charging, and four more under my laptop for when it is on the counter or table (keeps it cool and above any drinks that may spill).
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link to the materials? Sounds like good idea.
I have this huge granite/porcelain slab my mom uses to beak bread. i wish it wasn't a 2 foot x 2 foot size, maybe i could have used that instead.
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so far the temperatures would go up to about 99F and then go back down to around 96...i think what happens is the phone heats up, then the heatsink takes the heat, and cools down while the phone heats up again...cycle
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link to the materials? Sounds like good idea.
I have this huge granite/porcelain slab my mom uses to beak bread. i wish it wasn't a 2 foot x 2 foot size, maybe i could have used that instead.
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so far the temperatures would go up to about 99F and then go back down to around 96...i think what happens is the phone heats up, then the heatsink takes the heat, and cools down while the phone heats up again...cycle
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As I mentioned, I am not exactly sure what the material is. My guess is ceramic. I had the idea when I saw them in a store.
You can find them just about anywhere, and decorated any way you like (mine are plain). Link to Amazon
The granite slab you mentioned should work just fine. I never precisely monitored the temperature, but I know its a lot cooler.
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As I mentioned, I am not exactly sure what the material is. My guess is ceramic. I had the idea when I saw them in a store.
You can find them just about anywhere, and decorated any way you like (mine are plain). Link to Amazon
The granite slab you mentioned should work just fine. I never precisely monitored the temperature, but I know its a lot cooler.
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Haha like I said that slab is huge for an oven made to bake on. So if I had something to cut me a slice I would.
I was just sitting at my PC and I saw the little cardboard things and though why not try it. I tried with two and it seemed to work okay-ish so like I used my copper heat sink I thought of putting copper in between. Took me 5 minutes to make.
But I'll definitely give the porcelain a try.
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I don't recommend putting anything between the phone and the wireless charger, increased distance means less power into the phone and more wasted into the air. Also I don't think the plastic case of the phone will interface well with a metal heatsink but I admire your tenacity.
Maybe log your temps with and without and compare, though you would have to adjust values for ambient room temps otherwise a warmer day could throw off all your results.
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I don't recommend putting anything between the phone and the wireless charger, increased distance means less power into the phone and more wasted into the air. Also I don't think the plastic case of the phone will interface well with a metal heatsink but I admire your tenacity.
Maybe log your temps with and without and compare, though you would have to adjust values for ambient room temps otherwise a warmer day could throw off all your results.
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Yeah I noticed it takes a bit longer to charge but wireless charging is never actually fast as cord charging. I get about 1% ever minute with screen off and 1% every 2 minutes with screen on.
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Also I think its worth a try, maybe someone can come up with something more effective.
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just out of curiosity, completely. whats the point of this? heat is normal, especially while charging, and does not hurt the device. for the fun of it, i reach cpu temp shutdown purposefully all the time(105C), on all my devices, for years. heat has never ever caused any kind of damage to any of my devices. as the safety temps for battery and cpu shutdown are actually below the temps that our devices can handle before it can cause any damage.
simms22 said:
just out of curiosity, completely. whats the point of this? heat is normal, especially while charging, and does not hurt the device. for the fun of it, i reach cpu temp shutdown purposefully all the time(105C), on all my devices, for years. heat has never ever caused any kind of damage to any of my devices. as the safety temps for battery and cpu shutdown are actually below the temps that our devices can handle before it can cause any damage.
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Well looks like I have the exact opposite experience than you. All the phones I've had eventually had degraded battery's because of over heating. I had phones that would last 4 hours on an old battery and 12 on a new one. And that's just from gaming and such. Now charging is pretty much directly heating a battery. Also some people don't like picking up a piece if lava.
If you think its pointless then don't do it.
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Well looks like I have the exact opposite experience than you. All the phones I've had eventually had degraded battery's because of over heating. I had phones that would last 4 hours on an old battery and 12 on a new one. And that's just from gaming and such. Now charging is pretty much directly heating a battery. Also some people don't like picking up a piece if lava.
If you think its pointless then don't do it.
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Battery degradation occurs on all Li-ion batteries. Heat has very little effect on the overall lifespan of the battery. You can expect about a 30% loss in capacity every year no matter your usage patterns.
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Well looks like I have the exact opposite experience than you. All the phones I've had eventually had degraded battery's because of over heating. I had phones that would last 4 hours on an old battery and 12 on a new one. And that's just from gaming and such. Now charging is pretty much directly heating a battery. Also some people don't like picking up a piece if lava.
If you think its pointless then don't do it.
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im not planning on it. as i said the very first thing, out of curiosity.
now degraded batteries that early can happen, but its mostly because of manufacturing defects. the chances of that happening more than once in a row is fairly low. but you said multiple times. which leads me to believe that theres either something wrong with your phone physically, or maybe you are doing something wrong. as i said, on my g1(s), ion, og droid, nexus one, nexus s, galaxy nexus, nexus 4, nexus 7, and nexus 7, ive never had any issues because of heat or because of battery. i do all the testing for trinity kernel, while testing i try to "break" the kernel. part of that testing is keeping the temps right under the thermal shutdown temp for long periods of time. i have yet to see any kind of damage because of this(except for me "breaking" any test kernels).
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Battery degradation occurs on all Li-ion batteries. Heat has very little effect on the overall lifespan of the battery. You can expect about a 30% loss in capacity every year no matter your usage patterns.
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True that too. But there is enough research to support that heat does slowly degrade the battery.
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im not planning on it. as i said the very first thing, out of curiosity.
now degraded batteries that early can happen, but its mostly because of manufacturing defects. the chances of that happening more than once in a row is fairly low. but you said multiple times. which leads me to believe that theres either something wrong with your phone physically, or maybe you are doing something wrong. as i said, on my g1(s), ion, og droid, nexus one, nexus s, galaxy nexus, nexus 4, nexus 7, and nexus 7, ive never had any issues because of heat or because of battery. i do all the testing for trinity kernel, while testing i try to "break" the kernel. part of that testing is keeping the temps right under the thermal shutdown temp for long periods of time. i have yet to see any kind of damage because of this(except for me "breaking" any test kernels).
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Interesting. But I'll stay on the safe side.
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Interesting. But I'll stay on the safe side.
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cool.
as everything is different depending on everyone else's experiences in life.. most important is that you are satisfied by doing it
simms22 said:
cool.
as everything is different depending on everyone else's experiences in life.. most important is that you are satisfied by doing it
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You can say that again ?
Also...I notice that charging the phone bellow 80% (like even if I start charging at 75%) temps get to about 103° with my heat sink. But when it goes over 80% it starts to cool down. Still doing lots of testing and logging though.
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Here is something to read
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
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You can say that again ?
Also...I notice that charging the phone bellow 80% (like even if I start charging at 75%) temps get to about 103° with my heat sink. But when it goes over 80% it starts to cool down. Still doing lots of testing and logging though.
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Here is something to read
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
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yea, it charges "faster" before 80%, then slows down. then slows down again around 92%. oh, and that article is outdated. our batteries are a newer tech than when that article was written(2010).
Using a Wireless charger doesn't generate that much heat lol.
I don't use my device while charging it either.

[Q] Potential Buyer

Hi all.
I hope this is the correct place to ask this.
I have been researching smart watches for some time now. I always come across the Pebble watch. I have looked at some of the other faces and applications as well. I am just curious as to what makes the Pebble watch stand out to the community here.
Thank you in advance.
For me... watch face is always on and battery life of 1 week... and of course the awesome community
The build , battery life , simplicity !!
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Always on face, great battery life, no touchscreen to worry about accidental touches. Not to mention an amazing community that is constantly putting out useful and impressive apps and watch faces.
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Always on face, great battery life, no touchscreen to worry about accidental touches. Not to mention an amazing community that is constantly putting out useful and impressive apps and watch faces.
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Watch faces, waterproofing, 7 day battery life, always on screen
Thank you guys! I appreciate the comments back.
I have a white kickstarter pebble that is getting pretty old, but I still love, I'll rank my pros and cons for you.
Pro's
Batter still lasts 4 days with heavy use.
can read screen in broad daylight, in fact it works best there.
screen is always on, don't have to shake to wake, but can shake to turn on back-lighting
alert vibration is strong
can use a simple website to make your own awesome watch-faces http://www.watchface-generator.de/
connects to every phone/tablet I've tried it with, no brand affiliation
takes standard replacement wrist straps, so you can style it how you like very cheaply on ebay
water proof, I regularly swim and shower with it on
if you are at your desk, you can charge it whilst you still have it on
so simple you can operate it by feel if your just skipping music tracks etc
reliable, I've had it crash twice in years of operation
Cons
The plastic version looks like **** through polarized sunglasses
low res; but lends itself to a retro look that I love
charge cable is proprietary
not much fitness stuff, only a step counter really
plastic is fairly easy to scratch
David hit the nail on the head. If you want a watch with cool features that syncs to your phone, get a pebble. If you want a computer on your risk (extra features but needs to be treated like a computer instead of a watch), then you'd like something else.
Pebble is a watch that's smart. I got the pebble time as a kick starter backer. I think it's pebble v 2, I don't know if they could have done more with it. But the mic is a great addition. I think the pebble steel is a better looking watch.
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