Hi,
I've been trying to get an alternate keyboard working on my stock Gtab, but can't. I know that I can't enable it via settings, so I copied the APk to /system/app and rebooted, but still no luck.
I tried a bunch of different ones, and all don't work.
Any ideas?
Thanks,
Jim
Got Ultra keyboard working on stock, kind of
Hi,
No one has responded, but I've been focussing on trying to get Ultra working.
Some things I tried:
- Install from market - No setting to enable it, long press doesn't cause input selection
- I found some comments that problem was because of stock TNT Settings.apk and SettingProvider.apk, so I found some Android apks, and replaced them. - I then got the enable in Settings, but still no input selection when long press on a text box
- I then moved the /data/app/com.binarybulge...apk file to /system/app, and rebooted - Then, in Settings, the enable was gone ...
- I accidentally pressed on Ultra in Myapps on the new market, and a screen with 3 buttons appeared, including a question mark/help button. I clicked on that, which brought up a help doc, and in there, there was a link to open the input selection! I clicked that, got the selection, and selected Ultra. After that, long press still doesn't bring up input selection, but Ultra pops up when I click on any text box,
So, at this point I can use Ultra, but only Ultra (no input selection on long press).
I'm about ready to go back to the TNT Settins apks, but if anyone has any idea why I can't get the log press to invoke input selection, PLEEASE, let me know. Maybe there's some other Android apk that's needed?
Jim
I would like to use the gingerbread or swiftkey keyboards but am having the same issue disabling the TnT keyboard so I can select an alternate.
jimcpl said:
Hi,
No one has responded, but I've been focussing on trying to get Ultra working.
Some things I tried:
- Install from market - No setting to enable it, long press doesn't cause input selection
- I found some comments that problem was because of stock TNT Settings.apk and SettingProvider.apk, so I found some Android apks, and replaced them. - I then got the enable in Settings, but still no input selection when long press on a text box
- I then moved the /data/app/com.binarybulge...apk file to /system/app, and rebooted - Then, in Settings, the enable was gone ...
- I accidentally pressed on Ultra in Myapps on the new market, and a screen with 3 buttons appeared, including a question mark/help button. I clicked on that, which brought up a help doc, and in there, there was a link to open the input selection! I clicked that, got the selection, and selected Ultra. After that, long press still doesn't bring up input selection, but Ultra pops up when I click on any text box,
So, at this point I can use Ultra, but only Ultra (no input selection on long press).
I'm about ready to go back to the TNT Settins apks, but if anyone has any idea why I can't get the log press to invoke input selection, PLEEASE, let me know. Maybe there's some other Android apk that's needed?
Jim
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People have probably not responded since already asked by others several times. Also, I think people are becoming shell shocked and a tad weary of what Viewsonic is actually doing with the device.
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People have probably not responded since already asked by others several times. Also, I think people are becoming shell shocked and a tad weary of what Viewsonic is actually doing with the device.
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Hi,
Understandable ...
But, I've been continuing to work on it, and I think I'm close to a workable solution, at least for me.
If you look at my last post above, you'll note that I can use alternate keyboards now, but the long press thing on a text box doesn't work. I don't quite understand why yet, because that behavior seems like it's suppose to be embedded in Android, since maybe 1.6 or so.
Anyway, so I'm trying to write a small Android app that will cause the input method selection menu to pop up. I just got that working, but I've hacked a few things like the Settings/SettingsProvider apks earlier, so I want to go back and re-do things to see what works vs. doesn't work.
Once I get all that done, and it hopefully works, I'll post info and my app/apk.
Jim
P.S. Reminder: This messiness is apparently only with TNT/TNT lite, as the other NON-TNT firmware works "normally" (enable in Settings then long press in text box).
I am sure you already tried this but I will say it just in case
Did you tried going to "settings" - "language & keyboard" - find the keyboard your using and enable it by the checkbox on the right?
then you go to any text input box like the market search box and long press to get the "input method" option.
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I am sure you already tried this but I will say it just in case
Did you tried going to "settings" - "language & keyboard" - find the keyboard your using and enable it by the checkbox on the right?
then you go to any text input box like the market search box and long press to get the "input method" option.
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That doesn't work like that in stock TNT .
After install, you can't enable it in stock Settings. Also, even when I switched to vanilla Android Settings, which allowed enabling, long press on text box doesn't bring up input method selection.
Jim
Anyone come up with a solution? I still cannot use an alternate keyboard within TnTLite 3.0.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=842004
Long press isnt working with TnTlite 3.0. Look at the last item in the changelog.
1. Root it
2. Load Vegan ROM (comes with Android 2.3 keyboard)
3. After loading an alternate Keyboard (I like SwiftKey) & enabling in settings, select input method as you normally do in Android.
Hi,
I think that my small app is working, at least on my Gtab, but I'd like to get a couple of people to test it, and then if it's ok, I'll post it as an attachment.
It'll come as an apk, that you just install. When you click on the app, it causes the input selection menu to pop up.
If anyone is interested, pls pm me.
Jim
jimcpl said:
Hi,
I think that my small app is working, at least on my Gtab, but I'd like to get a couple of people to test it, and then if it's ok, I'll post it as an attachment.
It'll come as an apk, that you just install. When you click on the app, it causes the input selection menu to pop up.
If anyone is interested, pls pm me.
Jim
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I'm ready to give it a try I also have stock UI
beepoo83,
I pm'ed you a link.
Jim
Hi,
I haven't heard from anyone except beepoo83. Anyone else interested in trying it?
Please advise.
Thanks,
Jim
I will give it a shot
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I will give it a shot
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Thanks! I just sent you a pm w/the link. Please let me know how it works for you? I'm still new to Android and Android development, so "be gentle" . If this works OK for you all, I'll post the link in this thread.
Jim
Here is what I did.
installed the app you sent
installed free ultra keyboard
reboot the gtab
went to settings just to confirm that alternate keyboard entry does exist but can't be selected
Long pressing any text box brings pop-up with two entries 1. Edit text 2. Input method. Selecting input method just shows tnt keyboard entry and not the alternate ultra keyboard
So I would say it is not working out for me...or I am missing something...let me know if you want me to try something else
Oh...I just realized that your app might only work on stock UI and not on tnt. 2.0...is that the case?
Kibana,
I think there are a couple of things/problems that we're dealing with here, including some stuff that I don't understand 100%, but let me try...
My understanding is that the problems with keyboards is only with TNT or any TNT derivatives. Since you're on TNT lite, I'd expect your system to behave similar to mine, with respect to this.
First of all, not being able to enable (in your case) Ultra keyboard, in Settings. Actually, if your system works like mine, you can check the radiobutton, but it doesn't "stick". From searching, my understanding is that is because thy TNT Settings or SettingsProvider apks are missing something that is not missing from the standard Android Settings.
I know this for sure, because I found another Settings/SettingsProvider apk set, that does make the keyboard setting stick.
I don't know if that matters now on my system, because even after I switched back to the original apks, I can install new keyboards, even tho I can't check the button in Settings.
Second, I had seen info that when you install a keyboard, they got put into /data/app, but needed to be in /system/AOL, instead.
In my case, I did that (copied the keyboard apk from /data/app to /system/app), BUT, I am not 100% sure that is needed. The reason I say that is I can install (for example) the ultra apk now, and without moving files, if I click on InputPicker, I will get the popup that let's me choose a keyboard, including ultra.
Third, I think that I forgot to say: AFTER you install InputPicker.apk, you need to click on the InputPicker icon and this will force the input selection menu to popup.
In other words, anytime you want to select a keyboard, click on the icon. Once you select a keyboard, your choice should stick until you force a selection again.
So, did you click on the InputPicker apparently icon after the installation was done?
Sorry for the long post, but even for something so trivial, there's a lot of moving parts to this !
Jim
kibana,
I did another set of tests. This is with the original TNT Settings apk.
I installed two more keyboards from market (slideit and swiftkey).
As you have, they appear in Settings, but I can't enable them.
When I ran InputPicker, only the 2 original keyboards appeared, even after reboot.
Ok, then I copied the apks (com.dasur.slideit... and com.touchtype...) from /data/app to /system/app, and then rebooted.
Then I ran InputPicker, and VOILA, i GOT ALL KEYBOARDS.
So, to summarize, in your case, I think you need to copy the com.binarybulge... apk from /data/app to /system/app. Make sure the permissions are ok, rw-r--r--, then reboot.
If I'm understanding your post, you already get the popup when you long press in a text box, so you shouldn't need my InputPicker app.
I wrote the app because on my Gtab, running stock TNT, I don't get the popup when I long press.
Jim
Running stock OTA jellybean, (without device wipe) (rooted). Don't know when this happened, but my phone corrects my words automatically when I type using the physical keyboard. For instance, every time I type "lol" it auto-changes it to "AOL". I even went into the "Language & input" settings, and disabled the "auto-replace" setting under Physical Keyboard. Then rebooted the phone.
And it STILL autocorrects my typing! I dont mine it underlining misspelled words, but I certainly don't want it assuming what I type. That's the whole point of the physical keyboard. I want what I type.
Any suggestions here?
You made this change?
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No, I didn't realize that the Andorid Keyboard settings affected the physical keyboard . It looks like it worked! Thanks!
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Even am facing the same issue!!!
On ICS, I had an option wherein the Auto-Correct used to work for the Onscreen typing whereas it used to leave it on me what am typing when using the Physical Keypad.
Disabling the Auto Correct, as the screenshot shows, will disable to Auto-Correct for OnScreen typing too, which I don't want! Can't I control Auto-Correct for each of them separately like I could on ICS??
supraket said:
Even am facing the same issue!!!
On ICS, I had an option wherein the Auto-Correct used to work for the Onscreen typing whereas it used to leave it on me what am typing when using the Physical Keypad.
Disabling the Auto Correct, as the screenshot shows, will disable to Auto-Correct for OnScreen typing too, which I don't want! Can't I control Auto-Correct for each of them separately like I could on ICS??
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I thought that too, but I did the option as in the screenshot, and my on screen keyboard still shows suggestions, buts doesn't auto correct. Try it, and see if that is what you need.
For me, I hate auto correct. Im ok with suggestions, but dont auto change things for me, so this fix is exactly what I needed.
This is an easy fix. I had the same issue. There are two steps.
Go into settings, Language & Input and uncheck auto-correct. (I assume you already did this.)
Next, in the Language & Input menu, scroll to Android Keyboard (AOSP) and click the gear icon. Scroll down and there is and option to disable Auto replace. Uncheck that.
Disabling both of those fixed it for me.
DarkMatterM4 said:
This is an easy fix. I had the same issue. There are two steps.
Go into settings, Language & Input and uncheck auto-correct. (I assume you already did this.)
Next, in the Language & Input menu, scroll to Android Keyboard (AOSP) and click the gear icon. Scroll down and there is and option to disable Auto replace. Uncheck that.
Disabling both of those fixed it for me.
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Thanks for making this thread. I just upgraded my ROM and had the exact same problem. It sucks that it removes the autocorrect for touchscreen typing too. The fact that these are no longer separate makes me sad. Death of QWERTY. I'm going to cry when I have to get a touchscreen only phone
Baconstrip said:
Thanks for making this thread. I just upgraded my ROM and had the exact same problem. It sucks that it removes the autocorrect for touchscreen typing too. The fact that these are no longer separate makes me sad. Death of QWERTY. I'm going to cry when I have to get a touchscreen only phone
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I agree! Why in the world would you have 'physical keyboard' broken out with its own settings and then not actually respect those separate settings?! And otherwise why would you NOT have separate settings/parameters for separate keyboards on the phone? Like the OP says, this is the POINT of a physical keyboard; I want you to type WHAT I type, not what you THINK I should type.
Anyway... thanks, guys, for the info here.
Hi there,
I notice that on .757, using the spell checker when using the keyboard will cause the app to FC. I'm not sure if I'm the only one, here's how to test it:
1. Install a keyboard that has a spell checker (Nextapp Keyboard, Google Keyboard).
2. Reboot.
3. Go to Settings -> Language and Input -> Spell Checker. Ensure the radio button is selected, and Spell Checker is enabled.
4. Open any textbox which invokes the keyboard. Type a word, gibberish, then a word, eg. 'hello helly hello'. 'helly' should be underlined in red.
5. Tap the underlined word, and a small popup should display showing possible correct words. Pick any one, and it will FC at this point.
6. Repeat step 6, but your first word should be gibberish, eg. 'helly hello'. When you correct it, it does not FC.
Let me know if anyone is running into this issue on .757. Thanks!
HoTsHoT89 said:
Hi there,
I notice that on .757, using the spell checker when using the keyboard will cause the app to FC. I'm not sure if I'm the only one, here's how to test it:
1. Install a keyboard that has a spell checker (Nextapp Keyboard, Google Keyboard).
2. Reboot.
3. Go to Settings -> Language and Input -> Spell Checker. Ensure the radio button is selected, and Spell Checker is enabled.
4. Open any textbox which invokes the keyboard. Type a word, gibberish, then a word, eg. 'hello helly hello'. 'helly' should be underlined in red.
5. Tap the underlined word, and a small popup should display showing possible correct words. Pick any one, and it will FC at this point.
6. Repeat step 6, but your first word should be gibberish, eg. 'helly hello'. When you correct it, it does not FC.
Let me know if anyone is running into this issue on .757. Thanks!
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try to clear data of the keyboard.
Ben Ling said:
try to clear data of the keyboard.
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thanks - but it's the same thing.
No one having any trouble like I did?
Shameless bump, but I need to know if anyone is facing the same issue.
Clear messaging app data and it works fine again. I find I have to do it after every reboot.
akusokuzan said:
Clear messaging app data and it works fine again. I find I have to do it after every reboot.
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Still a problem, it's just a temporary fix and even frustrating to do this after every reboot.
akusokuzan said:
Clear messaging app data and it works fine again. I find I have to do it after every reboot.
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Funny, it still does not work for me even when I clear the data for messaging. Even clearing the keyboard data doesn't help.
Is there supposed to be a keyboard with this update? I see the apps in the watch there is no keyboard tho and it says none loaded after the version .
Thanks
Try Google keep for example, you have a micro or keyboard
You may need to select it in the settings.
The default one is a bit small to be that useful, I'm using Touchone Keyboard as a replacement and it's a lot easier.
Slurrie said:
You may need to select it in the settings.
The default one is a bit small to be that useful, I'm using Touchone Keyboard as a replacement and it's a lot easier.
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Got a link? I tried searching and nothing came up
c_86 said:
Got a link? I tried searching and nothing came up
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.infiniti.touchone.nimbus
Can try opening from Google play on computer or watch, for some reason opening on mobile says it's incompatible
I installed that KB but I can't seem to get it to work. I enabled it, what am I missing here??
~John
took me a bit to work it out first time as well.
After it's installed, on the watch go to:
- Settings
- Personalisation
- Input methods
If it's not already showing at this point click on 'manage keyboards'
- Select TouchOne
You can disable the other keyboard if you want, should work now when you get a msg.
Tip, to send the msg when your on the keyboard hit the green tick symbol at the top, I didn't notice this the first time and was wondering why I couldn't send any messages.
Not sure if this is a bug with AW2.0 or the keyboard but sometimes when I go into the WA messages there is no reply function, generally i just let it close and then open it again in a few minutes.
Keyboard take a bit of getting use to but still much easier than the default one
Hope that helps.
After it's installed, on the watch go to:
- Settings
- Personalisation
- Input methods
If it's not already showing at this point click on 'manage keyboards'
- Select TouchOne
You can disable the other keyboard if you want, should work now when you get a msg.
I've done all that & it still doesn't work.
I get a text with message + & no KB shows at all when I try to reply.
~John
I upgraded the S21 ultra to Samsung 12.
When I did it wouldn't let me use siwftkey keyboard, voice typing, and I lost the google voice features.
I played with every in language input I could find. Nothing worked.
I went to apps and I uninstalled Google back to factory settings. Then everything worked fine. I even turned off Google updates in play store so I can use voice typing and bluetooth voice dial.
Overnight for whatever reason it all stopped working again. I updated Google, it didn't work, and then uninstalled it again and it worked.
There has to be some trick I am not figuring out because it should work without having to uninstall Google. Any advice would be appreciated.
use other keyboards for now
It did the same for the Samsung keyboard.
I don't think it is a keyboard issue. I think it is something with Google. I'm far from an expert but that's what it seems. I just don't know the work around.
Am I lucky to not have received the update yet? Anyway, I would troubleshoot this by doing a backup first. Then trying to use Safe mode.
Maybe even go back into recovery and clear the cache.
The end game would be a factory reset.
That's if you're impatient like me.
I restarted the phone and everything is now normal
jkhawk said:
It did the same for the Samsung keyboard.
I don't think it is a keyboard issue. I think it is something with Google. I'm far from an expert but that's what it seems. I just don't know the work around.
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go to settings > apps > enable show system apps > search for "speech services by google" > turn it on if it's disabled
I am having the exact issue after the update to Android 12. Microphone works on calls but "hey Google" does not respond, voice recorder doesnt hear my voice, keyboard voice input doesnt work. Did a factory reset still no luck. Checked "speech services by google" and it is enabled.....What to do? If I could get into the secret menu and check my microphones (I understand there are 3 of them) I would but no secret codes seem to work. Help!
SiNJiN76 said:
Am I lucky to not have received the update yet? Anyway, I would troubleshoot this by doing a backup first. Then trying to use Safe mode.
Maybe even go back into recovery and clear the cache.
The end game would be a factory reset.
That's if you're impatient like me.
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I won't "take advantage" of the update yet, every other post reflects users having issues with Android 12 One UI 4.0. No excuse for releasing this version with so many glitches.
rebos123 said:
I am having the exact issue after the update to Android 12. Microphone works on calls but "hey Google" does not respond, voice recorder doesnt hear my voice, keyboard voice input doesnt work. Did a factory reset still no luck. Checked "speech services by google" and it is enabled.....What to do? If I could get into the secret menu and check my microphones (I understand there are 3 of them) I would but no secret codes seem to work. Help!
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Try using the diagnostic test. It's under. Battery and device care. It tests all sensors and stuff.
thank you so much!! I never saw that area! It confirmed that mic1 is not working.
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go to settings > apps > enable show system apps > search for "speech services by google" > turn it on if it's disabled
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Thx, works well!