As you know, Xperia devices have Timeshift Burst feature that can capture 61 pics in two seconds.
Now I ask the developers to make an app that can capture more pics in more times, or even the same times. For example 360 pics in three or six seconds.
Sorry for my bad possible explanation
I don't know where should I create this topic, so I came here
Timeshift burst = capture video for two seconds using 1080p at 30 fps,, hence why you get 2 megapixel images only. 360 pics in 3 seconds would demand 120 fps man, which would be only be possible at 720p under Timeshift slow motion video. Don't think anyone can make this due to hardware limitations especially at 1080p.
tomascus said:
Timeshift burst = capture video for two seconds using 1080p at 30 fps,, hence why you get 2 megapixel images only. 360 pics in 3 seconds would demand 120 fps man, which would be only be possible at 720p under Timeshift slow motion video. Don't think anyone can make this due to hardware limitations especially at 1080p.
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Got it what you said
But keep the proportion and just add the extra time
Now it captures 30fps in 1080p , so keep it but just add e.g 1 second extra
Is there a really hardware limitation?
If you're a programmer, write and test it
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I am trying to increase video recording resolution of our phone from 640x480 to 720x480.As our phone can decode videos upto WVGA resolution so it should be possible to encode videos of this resolution (I can be wrong).I have achieved to the point of having 720x480 in recording settings.But getting camera call back error on starting recording.So if anyone can tell if recording is hardware limited(processor/camera sensor) or not,it will be very appreciable.
thanks
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P.S-I am using DDKQ8 SGS2 camera mod by CCGH thats why interface looks different
No one huh :/ I will ask a few devs i know to look at this thread then
Hey!
The Motorola Defy has 480p as default but they have ported the Defy+ rom to it and it enables 720p!
But it is Armv7!
In short, our camera is capable to shoot 720p as it can take 720x480 photos but it has to take 30 such photos in one second and the hardware doesn't allow it. It has low capability hardware so shooting at 30 FPS and 720x480 can take a lot of load on the hardware and so it might not work at all. Also, you will need additional codecs to record 720p.
So it will be tough to make it work and the video might be laggy..
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Hey!
The Motorola Defy has 480p as default but they have ported the Defy+ rom to it and it enables 720p!
But it is Armv7!
In short, our camera is capable to shoot 720p as it can take 720x480 photos but it has to take 30 such photos in one second and the hardware doesn't allow it. It has low capability hardware so shooting at 30 FPS and 720x480 can take a lot of load on the hardware and so it might not work at all. Also, you will need additional codecs to record 720p.
So it will be tough to make it work and the video might be laggy..
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720p=/=720x480.
Defy is diff. case.Thats armv7 so its reference doesnt help.
What I am asking is 720x480 encoding possible by our processor or not.
2nd problem is aspect ratio-our default ratio is 4:3 and 720x480 is 3:2.So i guess this resolution MAY be related to wide angle lense or something.Its just an assumption.We cant have 720*480 full screen.Black bars will be there.So most probably needs XML resizing in camera app
so my question is if i set the Full Sensor' option in lapst it app my record will be in 4k or just 1080p?
Maybe you could try and it and check the output then let us know....
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Maybe you could try and it and check the output then let us know....
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yeah i think 4k is working right
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Umm, a Time Lapse is generally made with full resolution photographs.
This has nothing to do with the device's video capabilities necessarily.
The reason why devices can't record full resolution video is because it needs to shoot many frames (photographs) per second. However if you take a time lapse, you only need to take, say, one photograph per couple of seconds. Which is perfectly possible with our device.
So yes, if you're creating a time lapse you could actually make a 20.7 megapixel video, much more detailed than 4K video even (recall that 4K is usually 3840x2160 - making it 8 megapixels in resolution per frame)!
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Umm, a Time Lapse is generally made with full resolution photographs.
This has nothing to do with the device's video capabilities necessarily.
The reason why devices can't record full resolution video is because it needs to shoot many frames (photographs) per second. However if you take a time lapse, you only need to take, say, one photograph per couple of seconds. Which is perfectly possible with our device.
So yes, if you're creating a time lapse you could actually make a 20.7 megapixel video, much more detailed than 4K video even (recall that 4K is usually 3840x2160 - making it 8 megapixels in resolution per frame)!
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so if im doing a time lapse with full sensor it will be more
than 4k.right?
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so if im doing a time lapse with full sensor it will be more
than 4k.right?
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If you make a video using the full sensor, 20.7 megapixels, you would get a video of 5248x3936 with a 4:3 aspect ratio. 3936p perhaps, which is a little higher than your usual 1080p or 2160p (a.k.a. 4K).
However, I doubt the app on your phone could process that (not sure). Using software on your PC you should be able to (check Google for more info). Also, I doubt anything will be able to even playback this kind of video.
It could however be useful for downscaling (converting your insanely high res video to 'only' Full HD), to make sure your 1080p video looks perfectly crisp and clear.
What specs does the N6 offer in turns of slow motion video capturing?
Bump. I have the same question. Seems that none of the reviews explored the camera settings. Any update on this?
Everything I have seen has said that it takes video at 30fps
As far as I know, slow motion requires more frames per second. So I'm thinking that's a no on slow-mo. I could be wrong though.
The only spec i see is 4k @30fps.
I hope the stock camera app will allow for 1080P or 720P at either 60, 120, or 240fps. This is really a make or break decision for me, but seeing as though there are no frame rate specs for the other resolutions yet I will probably just have to buy it and see. I'm sure the devs will have at it if it does not come factory, although I hope it comes stock.
I found this quote at techtimes.com, If true I hope for at least 720p @60fps+
"The Google Nexus 6 uses a 13-megapixel rear camera with OIS (opitcal image stabilization), dual-LED flash, autofocus, 4K video recording @ 30 fps, 1080p video @ 30 fps, and a 2-megapixel front-facing camera."
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The only spec i see is 4k @30fps.
I hope the stock camera app will allow for 1080P or 720P at either 60, 120, or 240fps. This is really a make or break decision for me, but seeing as though there are no frame rate specs for the other resolutions yet I will probably just have to buy it and see. I'm sure the devs will have at it if it does not come factory, although I hope it comes stock.
I found this quote at techtimes.com, If true I hope for at least 720p @60fps+
"The Google Nexus 6 uses a 13-megapixel rear camera with OIS (opitcal image stabilization), dual-LED flash, autofocus, 4K video recording @ 30 fps, 1080p video @ 30 fps, and a 2-megapixel front-facing camera."
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I don't know if this video is legit, but here's a youtube video supposedly shot by the Nexus 6, 1080p @ 120 fps:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aq7XPDsnuXk
i'm sure that video is fake. There is no proof that the video came from a nexus 6, let alone any mobile device.
Once the embargo is lifted on the 12th we'll all know 100% about the camera I suppose
Google I/O
Lollipop opens up the Camera API to try to allow camera apps to take full advantage of the camera hardware. What is that camera hardware able to do?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xtp3tH27OFs
well this sucks ... from the Nexus 6 page on Motorola.com
"2160p (4K) UHD, 1080p HD and 720p HD video capture modes (30fps)"
hope they are just leaving out the rest of the modes
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well this sucks ... from the Nexus 6 page on Motorola.com
"2160p (4K) UHD, 1080p HD and 720p HD video capture modes (30fps)"
hope they are just leaving out the rest of the modes
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The snapdragon 805 is capable of slow motion video. Even if it isn't available out of the box, which I kind of suspect it will be, I wouldn't be surprised to see some enterprising developer figure out a way to make it happen.
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The snapdragon 805 is capable of slow motion video. Even if it isn't available out of the box, which I kind of suspect it will be, I wouldn't be surprised to see some enterprising developer figure out a way to make it happen.
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Even my 2 year old Note 2 does slow motion video but the Note 4 slow motion still does not capture audio with the slow mo video or do it as well as the iPhone sadly. It would be great if the Nexus 6 could do slow mo with audio & had some cool video effects like the Note line..:good:
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The snapdragon 805 is capable of slow motion video. Even if it isn't available out of the box, which I kind of suspect it will be, I wouldn't be surprised to see some enterprising developer figure out a way to make it happen.
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Agreed. Since the api allows for developers to gain access to it like never before I'm sure it's only a matter of time before we see it. If I'm not mistaken the one plus one phone has slowmo recording and it uses the same camera. It's just something that needs to be implemented in the software.
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Agreed. Since the api allows for developers to gain access to it like never before I'm sure it's only a matter of time before we see it. If I'm not mistaken the one plus one phone has slowmo recording and it uses the same camera. It's just something that needs to be implemented in the software.
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Even the reviewers in many of the reviews that came out yesterday seemed surprised at how basic the camera app on the N6 is. RAW capture is the big new thing with L but the camera app doesn't capture it. Either Google has a big update in store or developers will find their own way. There have already been numerous example improvements shown with lcamera.
Anyone with a device in hand yet try any 3rd party camera apps?
You have to remember the guy who posted about the api'$ and taking raw pics it was with nexus 5 and a camera app he wrote ... won't be long b
efore some apps have it though i am sure
Here is his git hub so his camera can be used
https://github.com/PkmX/lcamera/
Here is the write up
http://www.androidauthority.com/nexus-5-lollipop-camera-api-samples-540858/
since it has the same camera as the one plus, would installing the camera apk from it possibly bring slowmo recording or will it have to be written into the frame working?
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Double Bump. The answer to this question is what will decide whether I buy a nexus 6 or a note 4.
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Can someone with a nexus 6 try the app 'Open Camera' by Mark Harman (hopefully not the actor ) and hit the settings (gear) icon, Photo and video settings, Video frame rate, change it to 60 or 120 and then record a video. In theory this should bump the video up to a higher frame rate and then playback should be slow motion. Just a guess here but it is worth a try. Also I doubt this app is using the new 5.0 APIs so it may not be a true test.
Edit: better yet try this app that is designed for the 5.0 API. https://github.com/PkmX/lcamera
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Double Bump. The answer to this question is what will decide whether I buy a nexus 6 or a note 4.
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Can someone with a nexus 6 try the app 'Open Camera' by Mark Harman (hopefully not the actor ) and hit the settings (gear) icon, Photo and video settings, Video frame rate, change it to 60 or 120 and then record a video. In theory this should bump the video up to a higher frame rate and then playback should be slow motion. Just a guess here but it is worth a try. Also I doubt this app is using the new 5.0 APIs so it may not be a true test.
Edit: better yet try this app that is designed for the 5.0 API. https://github.com/PkmX/lcamera
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Cool suggestion; just tried the Open Camera app and video recorded at 720p with 120 FPS enabled but the playback appeared normal on device. I'm going to try and run the video on my PC and see if I can find if it actually recorded in 120. I'll also try that other app and get back to you.
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Cool suggestion; just tried the Open Camera app and video recorded at 720p with 120 FPS enabled but the playback appeared normal on device. I'm going to try and run the video on my PC and see if I can find if it actually recorded in 120. I'll also try that other app and get back to you.
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Cool! Keep me informed.
I tried the open camera as well as that L camera, I was able to change the framerate in the settings but it still records at 30 fps so no luck there sadly! I really hope we can get a slow motion app working someday, it's an awesome tool from time to time.
So huawei stills refusing to tell us the truth of 960 fps.
Adobe after effect (twixtor) users will now what i am talking about.
The p20 pro is incapable of 960 fps video recording. It is just an frame interpolation technique. It may be recording only in 240 fps or 480 fps. Nevertheless, Software interpolation should be improved.
Those two videos show clearly the case
What do you think guys ?
Huawei should work more on that soft interpolation slow mo thing
you need to practice a little to get good results - https://photos.app.goo.gl/QnvGmwrUL5LmmAZe2
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you need to practice a little to get good results - https://photos.app.goo.gl/QnvGmwrUL5LmmAZe2
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Practise what, im showcasing some examples from youtube to compare p20 pro and slow mo interpolation outputs.
Frame rate interpolation is what meant by camera powered by AI, i think
Great findings, the question is is this a bug, SW limitation or hw limitation. The drone part of the video definitely show that there is something weird going on. It would be great to have the same tests with 240fps to see if the result is as sharp as it should be...
Also it might depend of firmware version, it seems they made quite a lot of changes in a short time.
Huawei lie to us....
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Great findings, the question is is this a bug, SW limitation or hw limitation. The drone part of the video definitely show that there is something weird going on. It would be great to have the same tests with 240fps to see if the result is as sharp as it should be...
Also it might depend of firmware version, it seems they made quite a lot of changes in a short time.
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I have recorded some videos of muzzle blasts from ww2 era rifles,(yes there is a 6 foot flame out the barrel? not much fun on the shoulder though) in 960fps, it looks just like the you tube video, the 240fps looked alot better, I slowed them down as much as I could on the computer, the 960fps was no better than the 60 FPS, in fact I think the 60 FPS on my old windows 950 was better, with the p20 pro the 960 FPS vid played frame by frame was only 30 frames.
Trying to explain that the FPS is not right to so-called experts is a nightmare! I have explained it like this to a few at Huawei and EE, If you have a camera that shoots 900 FPS and you take a 1 second vid then when you play it back you should have 900 'photos' not 30, they still think it's recorded right as as it's slowed down, they cannot see the distortion or the lack of frames, or they choose to ignore you as they have been 'trained' on this phone.
According to meta data the 960 FPS bids are recorded at 30fps, if I connect the phone to the computer, go into the phones video file and right click on a vid for the properties, it says 30gps for the 960, the 250fps is recorded around the 240 mark (the speed is variable)
It is most likely a hardware limitation Huawei worked around with software trickery to get a similar effect. My guess is that Huawei's sensor lacks the on-sensor memory cache which is required for the sensor to be able to record high frame rate video without any of the normal limitations.
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It is most likely a hardware limitation Huawei worked around with software trickery to get a similar effect. My guess is that Huawei's sensor lacks the on-sensor memory cache which is required for the sensor to be able to record high frame rate video without any of the normal limitations.
/ Magnus
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That's true
The 960 fps vídeos really look like twixtor vídeos.
But one thing do not make sense.
If it is a 60fps with some sw gimmick to make a 960fps why there is a recording time limit?
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Stupid from huawei
They put the same options as of the galaxy s9 to make you believe that it is real 960 fps
I still believe in some hw limitation as a rolling shutter insted of a global shutter that creates this effect similar to twixtor.
If it is only sw it would make more sense to record at 240fps without time cap and afterwards during editing let the user select the time frame to create the super slowmo.
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Can anyone clarify that they get these anomalies and if so what fw are you on?
I'm assuming that some of this is software based so it's possible if that's the case that it can be improved.
Really really horrible to see this though, I did a video of some rain whilst on 110 and it was crap.
Small fast moving objects just come out wrong. Solid normal moving objects seem to be perfect.
EG: the wings on a bee from one of the first posts, you can see the blur effect
i also think it's some kind of rolling shutter issue maybe combined with a real 480fps... limiting the record time would otherwise make no sense st all...
i've made a video where it's provoked by a flickering led-illumination. If the illumination is bright it seems to get better.... cannot post the link, as i'm a newbie - some assembly needed by removing two spaces: https: //youtu .be/4bxmu6nhyho
short update on my comment: did some tests with bad/good illumination and now im pretty sure it's a rolling shutter issue (which isn't a surprise, that you need a lot of light for 960fps) videos wil follow soon...
960fps is fake (at least on the p20)
so i analyzed the video files i made with bad illumination and some movies with good illumination frame by frame and the answer is very simple: 960fps is completely fake. it's recorded at 240fps and then interpolated to 960 fps.
If the illumination is bad, it will just copy 4 times the same image which avoids the ugly artifacts. If the illumination is good it interpolates the frames in-between. it sometimes does a great job, sometimes a really bad one...
in the video here you can see the effect of the interpolation working/not working with the small droplet which stays in place for 4 consecutive frames:
https ://youtu. be/DK-A3j-mino
(again assembly required, sorry... remove the space after the "https" and before the "be")
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so i analyzed the video files i made with bad illumination and some movies with good illumination frame by frame and the answer is very simple: 960fps is completely fake. it's recorded at 240fps and then interpolated to 960 fps.
If the illumination is bad, it will just copy 4 times the same image which avoids the ugly artifacts. If the illumination is good it interpolates the frames in-between. it sometimes does a great job, sometimes a really bad one...
in the video here you can see the effect of the interpolation working/not working with the small droplet which stays in place for 4 consecutive frames:
https ://youtu. be/DK-A3j-mino
(again assembly required, sorry... remove the space after the "https" and before the "be")
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That is exactly what it is. Huawei scammed us with fake specs
yeah... why is huawei not just honest?!? this way they sell a product intentionally with wrong specs! (with big advertisment on the webpage as well...) to me that's fraud, nothing else.
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yeah... why is huawei not just honest?!? this way they sell a product intentionally with wrong specs! (with big advertisment on the webpage as well...) to me that's fraud, nothing else.
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Any sure procedure to report that with a solid proof
Xda staff would be posting articles about that if they were
honest
I tried to make a video in indoor light in 4K and 1080, 60 FPS, is there a reason why 4K is much less noisy? I did not think that resolution decides how much noise is there.
4K provides you with almost 4 times the resolution of 1080P thus you will most certainly see a difference in clarity.
In running a quick test, at 1080P on the default camera app, it captures the video at a bit rate of 20.0Mbits per second.
In contrast, at 4K @ 30FPS, it captures the video at 41.9Mbits per second.
So the capture size versus the bit rate is certainly going to play a deciding factor.
But there are other ways to achieve an optimal capture rate @ 1080P.
If Xiaomi gave us the ability to utilize the High Efficiency Video Coding (H.265) and dictate our own bitrate, you'd see better capture rates @1080P.
My only other suggestion would be to seek out a third-party camera application (GCAM perhaps?) and test further.
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4K provides you with almost 4 times the resolution of 1080P thus you will most certainly see a difference in clarity.
In running a quick test, at 1080P on the default camera app, it captures the video at a bit rate of 20.0Mbits per second.
In contrast, at 4K @ 30FPS, it captures the video at 41.9Mbits per second.
So the capture size versus the bit rate is certainly going to play a deciding factor.
But there are other ways to achieve an optimal capture rate @ 1080P.
If Xiaomi gave us the ability to utilize the High Efficiency Video Coding (H.265) and dictate our own bitrate, you'd see better capture rates @1080P.
My only other suggestion would be to seek out a third-party camera application (GCAM perhaps?) and test further.
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Is there an app that supports [email protected]? There is no point in recording videos [email protected] if there is 4K, but I like the idea of 60FPS.