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Hi guys,
My girlfriend has a 1 year old HTC Desire and its really pi**ing me off that it is faster than my brand new dual core O2X...
Her Desire is stock rom.... full of crap because she never deletes apps yet its still noticeably smooth and faster than my phone which regularly slows down / hangs...
How can 2 processors be faster than one? Is the LG software really that bad that they can make something that should be twice as fast, actually 5 times slower....
BTW I have had my O2X as stock and as MCR FR12... no difference, they are both SLLLOOOOWWWW (not knocking Paul or MCR one bit though, appreciate all the work he does...)
Simple answer? Yes
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My guess would be LG fail at software, I suspect it will be totally different with CM.
I have a Desire and can confirm that.
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gk141054 said:
Hi guys,
My girlfriend has a 1 year old HTC Desire and its really pi**ing me off that it is faster than my brand new dual core O2X...
Her Desire is stock rom.... full of crap because she never deletes apps yet its still noticeably smooth and faster than my phone which regularly slows down / hangs...
How can 2 processors be faster than one? Is the LG software really that bad that they can make something that should be twice as fast, actually 5 times slower....
BTW I have had my O2X as stock and as MCR FR12... no difference, they are both SLLLOOOOWWWW (not knocking Paul or MCR one bit though, appreciate all the work he does...)
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What exactly is faster? Sense vs. LG Home?
Internet browsing?
Games?
Sense on the desire series is lightning fast and smooth, HTC has been working a long time to tune it.
Correct me if I'm wrong but i read some parts of android are more optimized for the qualcomm processors (vs. any other cpu).
LG made some adjustments in the caching of apps to speed up boot times (and making the rest of the experience slower) , but paul's rom 'fixed' this.
I did a side by side comparison between the desire HD and the o2x and for now the dhd feels a lot more mature; untill you start up a game and I hope newer roms (actually read cyanogenmod here; in time don't think the first few nightlies will be much difference) can make this device as fast as it should be.
Installing another launcher like launcherpro or adw will help a lot, but will not magically fix lg's software flaws. Custom rom is the way to go
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Wait for the gingerbread update which should come within the next month - and lets hope LG made a better job building that rom
I consider the current froyo rom as only temporary - which is also why I still havent bothered with custom roms
Basically the roms now are all based on the poor rom from LG, and new roms needs to be made when the gingerbread update comes anyhow.
gk141054 said:
Hi guys,
My girlfriend has a 1 year old HTC Desire and its really pi**ing me off that it is faster than my brand new dual core O2X...
Her Desire is stock rom.... full of crap because she never deletes apps yet its still noticeably smooth and faster than my phone which regularly slows down / hangs...
How can 2 processors be faster than one? Is the LG software really that bad that they can make something that should be twice as fast, actually 5 times slower....
BTW I have had my O2X as stock and as MCR FR12... no difference, they are both SLLLOOOOWWWW (not knocking Paul or MCR one bit though, appreciate all the work he does...)
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Well then you have a problem on your O2X...
We had 2 * HTC Desires S (still one kept for the wife) and those are a lot slower lol in everything We compared both with the two O2X.
When I have to do something for my wife on the old HTC Desire S well it scares now the heck out of me lol that slow
Amazing one year back I found it fast
I have 2 HTC Desire also - and they arent faster than the O2x by any means - but the rom is smoother. It doesnt have the slowdowns and lags you experience with the O2x, for instanse when installing apps in the market application. But open the gallery or the video list and you will see how much faster the O2x is, or play a game etc.
The O2x definetely are alot faster than the Desire, but the rom just needs optimisation in a few areas
rQvsnaps said:
Installing another launcher like launcherpro or adw will help a lot, but will not magically fix lg's software flaws. Custom rom is the way to go
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Sorry forgot to mention I am already using Launcher Pro....
Not sure how people can say "the rom is smoother on Desire but it isn't faster"?!?!
Ok so the O2X might benchmark faster than the Desire, but who cares if the phone is unusable whilst installing something from the market... i'm talking "real world" here...
I came from HTC Desire too, and initially when I got the O2X, it was definitely not as smooth or fast as the Desire - especially when I ran it with GingerBread on the LauncherPro UI. Then I rooted the O2X and flashed MCR which improved things, but still felt laggy. Lately I have been using other custom ROMs (all based on MCR Fr12) and the latest versions are really very smooth and fast. Better than Desire?Not sure anymore; but I am definitely much happier with my O2X now with custom ROMs. I am now waiting for CM7 to come to O2X; that would really make the O2X show its true colors!
HTC desire is way slower than LG 2X by hardware
It is just that the newest HTC Sense for Desire is so much better than the LG stock roms.
So far all of the custom roms are based on the original LG rom, and even with the fix and optimization, it isn't getting us anywhere so far.
Im having this issue as well..
My incredible s is way faster for internet browsing...
Opening an app is fast on incredible s...
The screen display,games and videos that made me keep this 2x...
Still i wait for the next update and decide...
fantastic phone for sure..
gk141054 said:
Sorry forgot to mention I am already using Launcher Pro....
Not sure how people can say "the rom is smoother on Desire but it isn't faster"?!?!
Ok so the O2X might benchmark faster than the Desire, but who cares if the phone is unusable whilst installing something from the market... i'm talking "real world" here...
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Simple - theres only 2 places where the Desire are "faster" or smoother if you please. On the standard launcher swyping between the homescreens and when multitasking during app installation. These two issues tend to make people "beleive" the Desire is faster - its not, even if the launcher seems smoother when swyping.
The swyping is only an issue of the standard LG launcher - installing any other thirdparty launcher and swyping will be just as smooth/fast or even faster if you configure it to be under settings, than the Desire launcher.
The Multitasking lag during app installation is a bug on the LG, still not fixed - so this is still an issue. But its one single litle bug - this is hardly an issue to call the Desire faster overall and its not like you are constantly installing apps causing the phone to lag. Its a few seconds then you can move back to normal operation again.
But in any other operation of the phone the LG are much faster than the Desire, basically because the hardware is faster. Open a webpage and it loads faster, open the marked and the application listing loads alot faster, open the gallery and the thumbnails are updated much faster, swype between pictures are much smoother, open the video list and the thumbnails loads instantly, play a video is much smoother and allow much higher quality video, open any application and it loads faster, play any game and it plays smoother with better graphics (some of these games wont even be playable at all on the Desire), open any application that loads any type of content, like "pulse" and the content is loaded faster, Youtube loads and operates alot faster, videotrailer software etc. etc. etc.
In short the software on the LG are still a litle immature - propably because it was rushed by LG to be first on market with a dual core mobile. The HTC Desire's sense UI has been developed on for almost 2 years by HTC (before Desire on Legend for instance), so this is and feels less immature - it doesnt mean the Desire is faster.
My gf's Desire isn't as fast as my O2x, even with CM7 on it.
The hardware of the o2x is definitely faster, so it can only be the stock rom which subjective makes the mobile slower.
Keep in mind that LG focused to be the first company publishing a dual core mobile, mainly for PR.
The ROM probably played a minor role for the marketing guys ...
Hopefully they make it better with ginger bread. Otherwise, there's CM7 which will work for sure a lot better and smoother than the current stock-ROM
greets
It's just the UI that's faster on the Desire; the hardware itself is much slower, and outclassed even by same-generation devices (Nexus One, SGS). Any benchmarking tool will tell you that and show you in a nice little graph;
(don't mind me, I just love showing off my e-peen score )
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It's just the UI that's faster on the Desire; the hardware itself is much slower, and outclassed even by same-generation devices (Nexus One, SGS). Any benchmarking tool will tell you that and show you in a nice little graph;
(don't mind me, I just love showing off my e-peen score )
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Wow , thats what I call a big e-peen
My mate has a desire HD and had to do some surfing to get him to a webpage and I can tell you that it is sOOOOOooooooo much slower than my O2X (with stock rom,rooted with pauls patches.tweaks). It took a LOT longer to render webpages, Especially if they had flash on them than my O2X.
unfnknblvbl said:
It's just the UI that's faster on the Desire; the hardware itself is much slower, and outclassed even by same-generation devices (Nexus One, SGS). Any benchmarking tool will tell you that and show you in a nice little graph;
(don't mind me, I just love showing off my e-peen score )
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thing is, what do you use/want more: a snappy UI or more horse power in benchmarks? I might sounds like an apple fanboy now but I use the UI 99% more then a benchmark so for me the UI is more important. I'm back to my cm7 powered powerhouse that i call the desire HD for now; the lag in the UI is mostly part of that choice. Although I do agree that high demanding tasks like a 3D game are a lot smoother on an o2x
Hi,
I just bought a Note to replace my S2.
Before shelling out the money and signing a 2 year contract I read tons of reviews and opinions here on xda.
The general consensus was that the Note is as snappy as the S2.
My personal experiences sadly cannot confirm this...
My Note is VERY laggy .. it behaves worse than my ancient Galaxy S1 ...
I am on 2.3.6 KKA stock.
Has someone any idea what to do?
Is there any decent custom rom out there which can bring back the snappy experience of the S2?
P.S.
On s2 I used to use the MIUI ROM
P.P.S.
Custom launchers are working terribly on the Note. Tried ADW and Launcher Pro. Had to give up because it were unusable.
Its not Note issue but Samsung's filmwares.Im sure the next updates will blow up our monster.
Try latest filmware XXKL3 and you will notice improvment on your Note.
Plus with KL3 the third part launchers not lug at all (not perfect but closed.Im using zeam laucher which is perfect not lugs)
So dont worry my friend...Be patient...
Devs working hard but its very early for good custom rom like sgii...
Very strange, I had a Galaxy S2 prior to my Note.
The Note is just as smooth as the S2.
I also had a Galaxy S 4G T959 "S1" prior , and of course the S2 and Note blows it away in term of smoothness. Might be some kind of software or hardware related issues with yours?
I don't know what to tell ya...
I have a rooted Note running the stock ROM (KJ4), and it's just fine!
No slowdowns here.
I wouldn't say that Note is laggy. It's fast but the user interface experience is choppy. It's the sheer number of pixels to push + not hardware-accelerated UI (and Android-specific UI problems). I would expect it to get better, especially with ICS. For now - a little OC + KL3 soft + stay away from 3D effects in launchers.
Laggy keyboard?
The Samsung keyboard seems to cache a lot of data, Try going into app manager and clearing Samsung keyboard cache. Worked for me. Then I also just switched to another keyboard - Swiftkey X because I wasn't using the handwriting too much in S keyboard mode. And I didn't like the AI predictions too much.
I still use S memo and S Planner and Kies Air and they all work great.
Currently no lag for me.
I came from a LG G2X running CM7 nightly #201, which was awesome by the way, and the GNote is comparable.
Current Devices:
Galaxy Note, LG G2X CM7 (Nightly #201 + GPS mod), HTC My touch 3G slide CM7 (back-up, back-up phone)
Past Devices. Most recent first:
HTC Touch Pro (great phone), HTC Apache, Audiovox Thera (lovable weirdness), HTC XV6600 (what a phone!), Kyocera 6035 (those were the days)
i was about to buy it too .. but i didn't cuz of these comments saying it's slower than the S2
any one have both devices can tell us the truth ?
A totally stock Samsung Galaxy S2 is always smooth, fluid and responsive, however the Note in stock form, which is supposed to be faster, has a clear but ever so slight input lag. On the Note I think Samsung's touchwiz UI performs better than any other third party launcher. However with the latest KL3 ROM overall performance is much improved regardless of launcher. So i swapped from touchwiz to adw soon after reflashing because I cant stand touchwiz.
It helps to reduce the cache and memory usage settings on any custom launchers that should help a bit. I'm sure its just a firmware issue and once they mature a bit this phone will be even more awesome than it is now. I honestly don't have any regrets and for anyone who is still on the fence, go for it. You will love it after a few simple customizations.
Stock Note is a bit slow for me, I use Romow Lite rom which is very fast. Even Market works (have issues with some other roms), and cifs and tun modules for OpenVPN. Only issue with the rom is AccountsandSync settings isn't install and failed to install (the feature works, you can log in, but there isn't a GUI to turn it off). So I use QuickSettings which can turn off syncing. I'm using Launcher Pro with it and its very smooth.
Thanks folks,
Should try some custom ROMS.... I wanted to wait a week or two to be sure that there are no hardware issues (it is troublesome to send it back on warranty with custom fw) and after that to root it.
Which custom rom do you prefer? I like miui very much but there isn't any port to Note till now ...
I also think the Galaxy Note is quite laggy. I tried the GS2 in the store and it is definitely smoother than the Note. And I can also confirm that the 3rd party launchers are surprisingly choppy on the Note. I ran some of those same launchers on my Android HD2 and got very, very good performance. Especially LauncherPro. It's perfectly smooth on the the old HD2 Android. I would probably have stuck with GoLauncher on the Note but it is terribly and perfectly choppy. My version is KKA.
My Note runs fine so far. I found it quite fast and snappy. Have not downloaded many applications as of yet but will add more soon. The ones I do have downloaded work ok so far.
One thing that is obvious is how much faster applications work on the iPhone compared to Android. As an example try downloading the Bloomberg applications and compare section and stories downloads time. The iPhone is about 3-4 times faster than the average Android device out including my new Samsung Note.
Just wanted to say that while Cassies KL3 mod is a good improvement, it's much better paired up with AbyssNote 2.3 kernel and the CPU clocked to 1.6Ghz. Now it really flies. Battery life also seems improved with this kernel but its still early days.
For those who think third party launcher is laggy, try Spare Parts +. Turn the animations to fast.
oba123 said:
A totally stock Samsung Galaxy S2 is always smooth, fluid and responsive, however the Note in stock form, which is supposed to be faster, has a clear but ever so slight input lag. On the Note I think Samsung's touchwiz UI performs better than any other third party launcher. However with the latest KL3 ROM overall performance is much improved regardless of launcher. So i swapped from touchwiz to adw soon after reflashing because I cant stand touchwiz.
It helps to reduce the cache and memory usage settings on any custom launchers that should help a bit. I'm sure its just a firmware issue and once they mature a bit this phone will be even more awesome than it is now. I honestly don't have any regrets and for anyone who is still on the fence, go for it. You will love it after a few simple customizations.
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i found my friend's note laggy... and it with latest update.. i can saw it while sliding in Stock launcher.. but the sound is better than s2 but not that high... also, galaxy note eat a lot of juice..
Try rocket ROM, it's the best I tested till now.
Smoothest and best battery life.
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My SGN almost done and better then my old S2. After rooted and flash new kernel all be perfect..
SORRY MY BAD ENGLISH
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Updated to ICS using LG Update tool...now ready to bin my phone. Gee I was really stupid and just assumed that an official rom from LG would (a) work better than previous GB and (b) add new features rather than take away features. So far:
a) HDMI out not working
b) exchange active sync not working
c) no way to turn off camera shutter
d) LG UI laggy and slow
e) no real improvements in photo,video or music quality.
without the ability to sync to my work emails this phone is next to useless for me...
How has everyone's experience been? any of the above??
Being a newbie at flashing roms and the likeI assume I can get back to stock GB somehow ?
Yes it's awful extremely slow and buggy. Now since they have released it it might even be low priority to solve bugs....
You can revert to GB.
Use smart flash and a smart flash copy of the GB firmware.
Here you can find the stock firmwares V10 (froyo) V20(GB)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1035041
And here is how to flash it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1008070
just put the file with AP in the name where it says AP and CP where it says CP.
Might need to try to flash a few times if it fails. Or do it with the battery inside after the software update mode have been activated.
Good Luck
No problems here
Yes it's pretty bad. I found GB to be bad too though.
It took the Devs here to do LG's job for them and make GB good and they will do the same for ICS too I am sure
Yes, you can go back to stock GB but you will need to do a bit of research, like how to use Nvflash and/or smartflash. There are guides around if you do some searching.
Disaster is a compliment. It's slow, laggy, buggy... It's amazing they took so long to ruin an OS.
dark_sat said:
Disaster is a compliment. It's slow, laggy, buggy... It's amazing they took so long to ruin an OS.
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yeah.. finally one man who agree me(said the same thing in another topic)!! never lg again!
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Disaster is a compliment. It's slow, laggy, buggy... It's amazing they took so long to ruin an OS.
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I had the same opinions with stock ROMs on several other lower-midrange non-Nexus devices. HTC Sense was a performance killer on my old Desire Z and Touchwiz also made my friend's GS2 lag at times. On the newer superphones like the GS3 and HTC One X these skins don't cause any lag, but they don't deserve to exist on weaker models.
LG should have known better than to overlay that s**t on ICS with only 512 MB RAM... how hard is it to give us vanilla android? They did it for the T-Mobile G2X in the states (froyo).
RobYyY said:
yeah.. finally one man who agree me(said the same thing in another topic)!! never lg again!
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I'm in your Opinion. I went to V30a because with CM10 i got often BSODs and on CM10 is a very high battery drain... But CM10 was much faster and smoother Hope the Problems in CM10 get fixed.
stonebear said:
It took the Devs here to do LG's job for them and make GB good and they will do the same for ICS too I am sure
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Devs have already made what is to be made from ICS. There isn't much more into it than what has already been done. Only thing that is being awaited now is official source codes so the developing of CM10 & CM10.1 truly can show its colors
I disagree.
It's not any worse than any of the GB ROMs. I don't really imagine, what you're doing with the device on a daily basis, except of testing absolutely all of the functions (e.g. HDMI out - I bet more than 50% of people never use it), and launching all apps or scrolling rapidly to just check "smoothness".
I'm pretty use we'll get the small things you mentioned fixed with custom ROMs based on this ICS release.
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I disagree.
It's not any worse than any of the GB ROMs. I don't really imagine, what you're doing with the device on a daily basis, except of testing absolutely all of the functions (e.g. HDMI out - I bet more than 50% of people never use it), and launching all apps or scrolling rapidly to just check "smoothness".
I'm pretty use we'll get the small things you mentioned fixed with custom ROMs based on this ICS release.
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there you go... the fact that people have to resort to custom ROMs to get acceptable performance says a lot, right?
While I'd never use a stock ROM, I'd expect it to be smooth and responsive at the very least without bogging down from the smallest tasks like having 3 browser tabs open with music playing and whatsapp in the background.
kozzie99 said:
Updated to ICS using LG Update tool...now ready to bin my phone. Gee I was really stupid and just assumed that an official rom from LG would (a) work better than previous GB and (b) add new features rather than take away features. So far:
a) HDMI out not working
b) exchange active sync not working
c) no way to turn off camera shutter
d) LG UI laggy and slow
e) no real improvements in photo,video or music quality.
without the ability to sync to my work emails this phone is next to useless for me...
How has everyone's experience been? any of the above??
Being a newbie at flashing roms and the likeI assume I can get back to stock GB somehow ?
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As for me, the best stock ROM I ever had on this phone:
a) Don't have a solution here unfortunately...
b) Try Nitrodesk Touchdown app, works like a charm with a lot of additional useful functions than the built-in email app? PM if you need the app
c) Seems like silent mode can be a solution (though not practical to change mode everytime you want to use the camera)?
d) No such thing on my phone, fastest LG stock ROM ever on my phone.
e) I was already ok with the quality: it's a phone, not a camera. Photos it makes are not really good I agree (I regret my Xperia X10i for that!!), but I don't expect miracles from it. Maybe another app can do better, but I don't know any...
Finally, battery drain is very correct, much more than with GB for me (see pictures attached).
So I can't agree with you, this ICS stock ROM is much better than any other LG stock ROM. I come from DJ1.7.1 which is an excellent ROM, and still, I will keep using ICS, waiting for the developers' magic!
HDMI out is working btw...What are u talking about;
720p only but other than that works properly.
Have not tried HDMI yet.
It is waay faster then GB in all apps. Had reverted to V20Q before V30A (to check official update and there was not any in my locale). And honestly, GB was mighty slow compared to ICS. (And I found V20Q faster than 90% of ROMs here, Django - recommended to me as faster - looks hideous. Even if it was faster, I would not be able to use for it looked like something from 1999. And those animations, no matter if were faster to render, were waay too slow)
Stock GB also has terrible problem with screen tearing.
CM7 was fine, but was pretty much the same in terms of speed. (And I really do not overclock/ramhack my phone, for it decreases stability dramatically - after 50mins of calling at 13xxMHz, you fire up browser and it crashes for overheat...)
ICS (stock) on the other hand is faster than GB at stock speed.
And CM10 is faster than ICS (stock).
So there is that.
I mean, in stock ICS I still wait instant/1,5 secs for phone app to start. But it is better than GB - 3 secs. And it is worse than CM10 instant/0.6secs.
All that said, LG is terrible software maintainer, but P990 has only 512MB of RAM (with 128 MB alocated to GeForce ULV). Therefore I am not that suprised.
And do not use any memkillers or other stuff. Basically to do all this app provides, just set the limit for background apps. That said... if you are using e.g. Talk, SMS, Phone, Browser constantly plus some other apps (like InternetBanking app or GDrive, Maps) it might be better for your experience and battery to just let it as it is on default. It works better when they are in RAM.
Lovin' It - Stop complaining
I completly disagree - it may be a bit late but there is no reason to be pessimistic about it.
a) It does work - I just tested it on my TV. There is no options for it in the settings anymore though, but it runs at 1280x720 anyway. (I know 1080 was the highest)
b) I don't use it, so can't comment there.
c) Yes there is - I use Llama and my silent profile shut the shutter up. So its either notification or media volume.
d) No, its not. Maybe for the first minute of boot before you kill some programs, but other than that fastest UI so far, even though I still installed GO Launcher.
e) Haven't tested, but is 1080p recording in 30fps now? If not, this is from ICS changelog for O2X and other phones (LGSingapore):
adding bitrate video recording (720p only 7Mbps who first kept so 9Mbps, which first 1080p 16mbps 10mbps now), fixesbug camera (focus, time capture, white balance)
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So it must be a bit better now.
If you really want to complain, here is the un-edited version of the predicted changelog from the Singapore comment, have fun:
Display interface optimus ui 3.0 brings several new features,including a new lock screen(with shortcuts and new
gesture, plus a look underneath, and face unlock), quick memo (write on your screen wherever you want ), new gallery ics, new notification, task manager ics , 4
new themes(with wallpaper, icons, a different menu structure), 12 new fonts, icon changer (picture may be the app icon), new music player, equalizer manual
control, voice capture (photo just say "cheese"), 14 new homescreen transition effect, new widgets ics style, adding bitrate video recording (720p only 7Mbps who
first kept so 9Mbps, which first 1080p 16mbps 10mbps now), fixesbug camera (focus, time capture, white balance), fixes a bug in the current battery standby, new
app called "home media" (a type of application for enjoying photos / videos / music, but only for optimus vu / lte / nitro hd), upgraded browser (no night mode
feature for battery saving), improved performance, better ram a management, look more simple (there are 2 color options menu, white and black ,or grey and brown),
update for optimus 3d 3d feature (DSLR shot, ruler tag, 3d macro, manual focus, zooming while recording), the addition of video and photo 3d for optimus 3d (from
national geographic world music concerts n 3d), new game called "Archer Craft" Made by LG for optimus 3d (3d version) 2x and lucid sol, new exclusive ringtone
composed by Ennio Morricone, new gesture feature for Optimus black, movie editor v1.7 version for optimus lte / nitro hd / vu, vu optimus create a newapp (upps.. I
forgot, just usethe stylus for photo editing), new cartoon themes for optimus 3d, auto repair brightness on optimus black, new featuresin the video player for
optimus nitro / lte / vu (ie fast / slow motion, live zooming, thumbnails seek, additional audio), n many new. Tired of typing…, just a lot of the new ones, if I
tell about them all, it won’t be surprise anymore.
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kozzie99 said:
Updated to ICS using LG Update tool...now ready to bin my phone. Gee I was really stupid and just assumed that an official rom from LG would (a) work better than previous GB and (b) add new features rather than take away features. So far:
a) HDMI out not working
b) exchange active sync not working
c) no way to turn off camera shutter
d) LG UI laggy and slow
e) no real improvements in photo,video or music quality.
without the ability to sync to my work emails this phone is next to useless for me...
How has everyone's experience been? any of the above??
Being a newbie at flashing roms and the likeI assume I can get back to stock GB somehow ?
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Ohh what is this post. Posted just like that without seeing/using all features added in ICS. Waste of time for all.
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atlac said:
Ohh what is this post. Posted just like that without seeing/using all features added in ICS. Waste of time for all.
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err..excuse me but I have been using the 'new features' of the ics rom for 24hrs now and I can verify that (1) HDMI is not working (whereas GB rom was working) and (2) ms active sync is not working and I have not been able to retrieve emails since installing ICS (and I was definitely getting them before ) .
I appreciate this may not be the same for everyone -
The point of this post was to share my experiences with the new rom and hopefully get some advice or solutions from others who may have been through the same problems ...isn't that what these forums are for ..
PS: flashed back to GB rom and all working ok again...obviously something about my phone and v30 that didnt get along !
ICS OFFICIAL ROM Runs very well for me. Smooth enough... and the battery life is very good.
NRQ777 said:
ICS OFFICIAL ROM Runs very well for me. Smooth enough... and the battery life is very good.
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released a just a short time before...i mean around a day and a half and battery is very good.....give it sometime and analyse the battery performance....
might be good, I am not commenting on that...but just asking u to be hold yourself making judgements on first sight....
Thanks for the understanding
RobYyY said:
yeah.. finally one man who agree me(said the same thing in another topic)!! never lg again!
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Well ever tried the 4x hd? This thing Flys and lg did a really good job on it. Also the optimus g or nexus 4. They are all great devices.
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Hi All
I've bought the Sony Xperia Z since now 2 days and I'm a little disapointed..
Ok the phone is beautiful, the screen too but there is really bad bad point for people who come from an Iphone 5. Everybody said that this phone is fluid and better than a Galaxy Tab but after 2 days of use , it seem that it's really not the case!!. Even with a good processor quad core , the speed is not even better than the galaxy Tab 2. Even my girlfriend who are on an Iphone 4S said that the Sony XZ is not fluid as the iphone and she knows nothing about phones.
When I'm unlocking my phone, I always have a lag between moving between desktop. After 1 days I've installed Nova Launcher, It was a little more fluid but not the best ! Sorry but when I see the caracteristics of the phone , it's a monster but with Android , it's slow ! SLOW SLOW!!
I'm the only one who see this??? Even with a monster phone Android don't work well! I'm even hesitate the add more than 2 widgets....
The Second point is the webbrowsing... It's horrible, I've try Firefox, Chrome and dolphin and really , it's not fluid at all, when you scrolling in web pages it's slow to show pages , pictures etc...
The Third point is the temperature... it grow to 38° when I use it for more than 20 mins....
So the Xperia Is a good phone but theses point disapoint me a lot.. I was thinking that with a monster last generation phone, it's going to be fluid and I see that's not the case..
Does somebody can help me maybe??
Go back to iPhone.
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That's not helping me
Kinoal said:
Does somebody can help me maybe??
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Just wait a few days for the 4.2.2 update and stop crying :silly:
maybe your device is defect?
i'm using the z for nearly 3 weeks now, haven't had a single problem.
phone is fast, ui is smooth and fluid, no lags. and i have plenty of widgets. temperature isn't hot.
compared it to a friends iphone 5 - no lags, not less fluid or smooth.
unlock bootloader, root, remove junk system file, use cook rom, custom kernel i think you will feel better
Wait for a stable CM10.1 build or 4.2.2
I also dont know what to do with the XZ. I have it for 3 days now, but i am a little dissapointed about the screen and the connectors are very annoying. Theres also a lot of dust. I think i will switch to Galaxy s 4 or htc one!
Aerys said:
Wait for a stable CM10.1 build or 4.2.2
I also dont know what to do with the XZ. I have it for 3 days now, but i am a little dissapointed about the screen and the connectors are very annoying. Theres also a lot of dust. I think i will switch to Galaxy s 4 or htc one!
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Hurry up
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trungduc5151 said:
unlock bootloader, root, remove junk system file, use cook rom, custom kernel i think you will feel better
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Don't want to loose my warranty
xperia z
Kinoal said:
Hi All
I've bought the Sony Xperia Z since now 2 days and I'm a little disapointed..
Ok the phone is beautiful, the screen too but there is really bad bad point for people who come from an Iphone 5. Everybody said that this phone is fluid and better than a Galaxy Tab but after 2 days of use , it seem that it's really not the case!!. Even with a good processor quad core , the speed is not even better than the galaxy Tab 2. Even my girlfriend who are on an Iphone 4S said that the Sony XZ is not fluid as the iphone and she knows nothing about phones.
When I'm unlocking my phone, I always have a lag between moving between desktop. After 1 days I've installed Nova Launcher, It was a little more fluid but not the best ! Sorry but when I see the caracteristics of the phone , it's a monster but with Android , it's slow ! SLOW SLOW!!
I'm the only one who see this??? Even with a monster phone Android don't work well! I'm even hesitate the add more than 2 widgets....
The Second point is the webbrowsing... It's horrible, I've try Firefox, Chrome and dolphin and really , it's not fluid at all, when you scrolling in web pages it's slow to show pages , pictures etc...
The Third point is the temperature... it grow to 38° when I use it for more than 20 mins....
So the Xperia Is a good phone but theses point disapoint me a lot.. I was thinking that with a monster last generation phone, it's going to be fluid and I see that's not the case..
Does somebody can help me maybe??
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so far everything fine with my xperia z. no lags. stand by time is awesome... it can take 2 days witout 3g but with wifi on and moderate use. i installed a lot of games like real racing so far all is fine also with the temperature. im using the non lte version black xperia. the only problem that i have is that some apps is not compatible like the keek social video app and i can not register with box cloud storage.. idont know why. all xperience is great
reptile64 said:
Just wait a few days for the 4.2.2 update and stop crying :silly:
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You sure it will be out in a few more days??
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trungduc5151 said:
unlock bootloader, root, remove junk system file, use cook rom, custom kernel i think you will feel better
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samuelchua said:
You sure it will be out in a few more days??
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The 4.2.2 is supposed to boost the performance of Android?
Kinoal said:
Hi All
I've bought the Sony Xperia Z since now 2 days and I'm a little disapointed..
Ok the phone is beautiful, the screen too but there is really bad bad point for people who come from an Iphone 5. Everybody said that this phone is fluid and better than a Galaxy Tab but after 2 days of use , it seem that it's really not the case!!. Even with a good processor quad core , the speed is not even better than the galaxy Tab 2. Even my girlfriend who are on an Iphone 4S said that the Sony XZ is not fluid as the iphone and she knows nothing about phones.
When I'm unlocking my phone, I always have a lag between moving between desktop. After 1 days I've installed Nova Launcher, It was a little more fluid but not the best ! Sorry but when I see the caracteristics of the phone , it's a monster but with Android , it's slow ! SLOW SLOW!!
I'm the only one who see this??? Even with a monster phone Android don't work well! I'm even hesitate the add more than 2 widgets....
The Second point is the webbrowsing... It's horrible, I've try Firefox, Chrome and dolphin and really , it's not fluid at all, when you scrolling in web pages it's slow to show pages , pictures etc...
The Third point is the temperature... it grow to 38° when I use it for more than 20 mins....
So the Xperia Is a good phone but theses point disapoint me a lot.. I was thinking that with a monster last generation phone, it's going to be fluid and I see that's not the case..
Does somebody can help me maybe??
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disable that irritation animation effect from the developer menu....everything is great about the phone...apart frm im having issues with the touch lcd...stimes i have to touch the app like 5 times in quick seccession only thn it registers, odly enough when i message ...keyboard is all fine..battry is nt great either,with 3g on , lasts only half a day
Aerys said:
Wait for a stable CM10.1 build or 4.2.2
I also dont know what to do with the XZ. I have it for 3 days now, but i am a little dissapointed about the screen and the connectors are very annoying. Theres also a lot of dust. I think i will switch to Galaxy s 4 or htc one!
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Wait... What? dust? are you sure it's XZ? lol
I had quite a bit of lag on mine also. I tried numerous Launchers until I found one that ran without hitch. Try Apex Launcher. Takes a while to set up and get right, but now mine is running absolutely smooth as silk. Ill try the stock launcher again once the new Android update hits. But agreed, out the box, the phone isnt smooth or quick to use at all.
Kinoal said:
Hi All
I've bought the Sony Xperia Z since now 2 days and I'm a little disapointed..
Ok the phone is beautiful, the screen too but there is really bad bad point for people who come from an Iphone 5. Everybody said that this phone is fluid and better than a Galaxy Tab but after 2 days of use , it seem that it's really not the case!!. Even with a good processor quad core , the speed is not even better than the galaxy Tab 2. Even my girlfriend who are on an Iphone 4S said that the Sony XZ is not fluid as the iphone and she knows nothing about phones.
When I'm unlocking my phone, I always have a lag between moving between desktop. After 1 days I've installed Nova Launcher, It was a little more fluid but not the best ! Sorry but when I see the caracteristics of the phone , it's a monster but with Android , it's slow ! SLOW SLOW!!
I'm the only one who see this??? Even with a monster phone Android don't work well! I'm even hesitate the add more than 2 widgets....
The Second point is the webbrowsing... It's horrible, I've try Firefox, Chrome and dolphin and really , it's not fluid at all, when you scrolling in web pages it's slow to show pages , pictures etc...
The Third point is the temperature... it grow to 38° when I use it for more than 20 mins....
So the Xperia Is a good phone but theses point disapoint me a lot.. I was thinking that with a monster last generation phone, it's going to be fluid and I see that's not the case..
Does somebody can help me maybe??
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i cannot see any of these problem in my phone
iPhone is for stupid people (girls/boys who don care of developing)
it s android if u have problem with this ROM u can root and change it
change kernel
change firmware
iPhone 5 is dual-core, 1.2 GHz, 1gm ram, 4inch (not hd!)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Xperia Z is QUADcore, 1.5 GHz, 2GB RAM, 5inch, FULL HD
so it normal for temperature to increase But phone will work properly in high temp. :good:
(iphone users cannot imagine this )
Kinoal said:
Hi All
I've bought the Sony Xperia Z since now 2 days and I'm a little disapointed..
Ok the phone is beautiful, the screen too but there is really bad bad point for people who come from an Iphone 5. Everybody said that this phone is fluid and better than a Galaxy Tab but after 2 days of use , it seem that it's really not the case!!. Even with a good processor quad core , the speed is not even better than the galaxy Tab 2. Even my girlfriend who are on an Iphone 4S said that the Sony XZ is not fluid as the iphone and she knows nothing about phones.
When I'm unlocking my phone, I always have a lag between moving between desktop. After 1 days I've installed Nova Launcher, It was a little more fluid but not the best ! Sorry but when I see the caracteristics of the phone , it's a monster but with Android , it's slow ! SLOW SLOW!!
I'm the only one who see this??? Even with a monster phone Android don't work well! I'm even hesitate the add more than 2 widgets....
The Second point is the webbrowsing... It's horrible, I've try Firefox, Chrome and dolphin and really , it's not fluid at all, when you scrolling in web pages it's slow to show pages , pictures etc...
The Third point is the temperature... it grow to 38° when I use it for more than 20 mins....
So the Xperia Is a good phone but theses point disapoint me a lot.. I was thinking that with a monster last generation phone, it's going to be fluid and I see that's not the case..
Does somebody can help me maybe??
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Use a good launcher, and disable/uninstall some of the apps that you don't use. This phone is quick, much smoother compared to any iPhone i've used.
pkw168 said:
Use a good launcher, and disable/uninstall some of the apps that you don't use. This phone is quick, much smoother compared to any iPhone i've used.
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+10, and much more customisable
The phone can lag a little in settings menu and with Sony launcher but aside from that it settles down once you've had it a while. I can't explain why.
I use dolphin browser as the stock browser and chrome are a little laggy. Dolphins not perfect but right now it's faster and has much less lag.
Non I'm root but I need to unlock bootloader to be able to install Custom Rom And I don't want to loose my warranty... XZ seems to have so much problems don't want to loose my money
Hi all guys, I want to ask everyone to help me understanding why I my device is a bit laggy. Ok, I don't have a nexus, but I have an amazing quad core processor, a tegra 3 chipset!!
And even if flash custom ROMs I have this lag feeling, and not only feeling sometimes. I will be more accurate.
1) When I install apps or uninstall apps, I have some lags, now OK the phone is doing a big task but it is a bit too laggy.
2) Switching between apps can be laggy some times, and not just with big apps.
3) I have noticed that even having not much apps working background, the phone give me this impression of lagness, I have 1gb ram and a quad core, I get angry if it start to run slowly only for some apps working background, I mean the hardware is powerfully enough.
After all I must say that I have tryed these ROMs.
Carbon, slimbean, liquid smooth, and CyanogenMod (that is a bit better on performance).
My favourite is slimbean because I feel it stable.
And I have tryed most of the kernels, like werewolf, optimous prime, and iodak at last, and I like this last one.
Can someone help me understand this? Thank you guys!
Ah, sorry for my not clear English :S
LoKKeR said:
Hi all guys, I want to ask everyone to help me understanding why I my device is a bit laggy. Ok, I don't have a nexus, but I have an amazing quad core processor, a tegra 3 chipset!!
And even if flash custom ROMs I have this lag feeling, and not only feeling sometimes. I will be more accurate.
1) When I install apps or uninstall apps, I have some lags, now OK the phone is doing a big task but it is a bit too laggy.
2) Switching between apps can be laggy some times, and not just with big apps.
3) I have noticed that even having not much apps working background, the phone give me this impression of lagness, I have 1gb ram and a quad core, I get angry if it start to run slowly only for some apps working background, I mean the hardware is powerfully enough.
After all I must say that I have tryed these ROMs.
Carbon, slimbean, liquid smooth, and CyanogenMod (that is a bit better on performance).
My favourite is slimbean because I feel it stable.
And I have tryed most of the kernels, like werewolf, optimous prime, and iodak at last, and I like this last one.
Can someone help me understand this? Thank you guys!
Ah, sorry for my not clear English :S
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I always felt that too, until I flashed kit kat and mokee kernel. You can try it out
If you're on stock, number 1. might be caused by MLT: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2187920
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Nono i don't like anymore stock beucase is not best for performance. Anyway thank @Coolneng I will try it. There are compatibility issues for apps like GTA or something else? I have heard something.
LoKKeR said:
Nono i don't like anymore stock beucase is not best for performance. Anyway thank @Coolneng I will try it. There are compatibility issues for apps like GTA or something else? I have heard something.
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I have no idea, I don't play any games on phone ^^
I have tried kitkat and it is nice, but it's not much stable so I have chosen to return to stock (zaiben rom) with iodak kernel and I'm impressed, it is fast and smooth with this kernel.
Anyway I think that all Roms that we have are unstable in their way, so I prefer stock where all works.
LoKKeR said:
I have tried kitkat and it is nice, but it's not much stable so I have chosen to return to stock (zaiben rom) with iodak kernel and I'm impressed, it is fast and smooth with this kernel.
Anyway I think that all Roms that we have are unstable in their way, so I prefer stock where all works.
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If you're on a stock based ROM, I suggest you still check for that MLT apk
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This rom doesn't have mlt.apk but have logservice.apk and if I delete it the Rom stop working
Kernel : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=50072951&postcount=2066 (Iodak v9.95)
Rom : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2481929
Try to do a full wipe of /system before install .
Trickster mod settings :
CPUQuiet : balanced
Multicore power saving : 1
CPU : Max 1.3 Ghz , Interactive
Try lagfix https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.grilledmonkey.lagfix&hl=en
I feel my phone more smoothly after i dezactivate all animations .