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[Q] Random Titanium Backup Question...

Sup XDA... first time poster... on/off lurker... just a quick question i was messing with my captivate today trying to load 2.2 on it... kies wasn't working for me so i did a whole lotta messing around with the phone... in the process i backed up my stuff on TB... while trying to restore it, it restored from a previous upgrade i did in dec. i ended up losing most of my text messages, profiles i set up and important memos... anything i can do to restore it or am i screwed...?
I think i accidentally hit the back up user apps instead of user apps+data and restored user apps+data... could that be the reason...?

I don't think that TiBu backs up text messages. I use SMS backup+ on the market for that. It backs it up to my Gmail account. It does this automatically, and has the option to restore if I flash a new ROM.
I read somewhere that TiBu system data back ups can cause issues if you flash a new ROM and try to restore system data from a different ROM. So I have always been afraid of system data in TiBu.
If you back up the apps without the data, then the app will install, but it's a fresh install. That way anything you did in the app is lost. For example if you back up just the app Facebook, when you restore you are not signed in anymore. If you backup app + data, when you restore you are already signed in again. That could be how you lost memos from an app, but Text messages is another animal.
If you are playing with Kies, you should try the custom ROMs. They are extremely easy to install, there's lots of guides, and they run so much better than the 2.2 from Samsung/AT&T.

Don't really think you can do anything at this point to get your stuff back. You should do a nandroid backup before flashing new firmware, though. If the rom you flashed didn't work, or if you couldn't restore something with TB (or forgot to even do a TB backup), you can always roll your phone back to your previous firmware, complete with all your data.

quarlow said:
I don't think that TiBu backs up
If you are playing with Kies, you should try the custom ROMs. They are extremely easy to install, there's lots of guides, and they run so much better than the 2.2 from Samsung/AT&T.
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Agree a ROM is the way to go. Huge improvement over just using a bloated 2.2.

Will flashing a new ROM wipe everything?

My main question is that I want to go to the ROM F1 Galaxy S II V6 - SP1 [Look & Feel Of Galaxy S II] or to another updated ROM.
I am coming from froyo 2.2 JK2 (with VooDoo). If I do this flash will I loose all my app data/other data? Is there a way to flash the ROM and save this data? I don't mind losing messages or bookmarks, I just don't want to have to install all of my apps again.
Thank you!

aznhybrid said:
My main question is that I want to go to the ROM F1 Galaxy S II V6 - SP1 [Look & Feel Of Galaxy S II] or to another updated ROM.
I am coming from froyo 2.2 JK2 (with VooDoo). If I do this flash will I loose all my app data/other data? Is there a way to flash the ROM and save this data? I don't mind losing messages or bookmarks, I just don't want to have to install all of my apps again.
Thank you!
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each rom is different, some are wipe version, some are non-wipe. There are a lot of good arguments for cleaning your phone and doing a clean install every time you change rom -- although most people don't, hence the length of threads with people having issues from legacy data and programs having incompatibility issues.
As a general rule prior to flashing any new rom or kernel you should:
1. do a complete nandroid backup in recovery
2. backup your apps using Titanium backup or similar
3. copy the Titanium backup, your photos, music, contacts etc. to your PC
4. then flash, clean and reformat as required without fear of being able to recover important data and files.
Again, some do this. Many don't. Depends how frequently you are flashing and how replaceable your files are.

+1 to that, I highly recommend you do a full wipe, Its not that difficult with apps such as titanium backup, It does all the hard work for you.
Doing a wipe ensures no bugs will be carried over and you will get the best result.
i wouldnt say a wipe is necessary when upgrading to a newer version of the same ROM

lgsshedden said:
each rom is different, some are wipe version, some are non-wipe. There are a lot of good arguments for cleaning your phone and doing a clean install every time you change rom -- although most people don't, hence the length of threads with people having issues from legacy data and programs having incompatibility issues.
As a general rule prior to flashing any new rom or kernel you should:
1. do a complete nandroid backup in recovery
2. backup your apps using Titanium backup or similar
3. copy the Titanium backup, your photos, music, contacts etc. to your PC
4. then flash, clean and reformat as required without fear of being able to recover important data and files.
Again, some do this. Many don't. Depends how frequently you are flashing and how replaceable your files are.
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ahh thanks! exactly what I was looking for

Will and nandroid backup and titanium backup save the contact data? As in the links to the facebook accounts?
If not what can i use is it possible?
Thanks

Talon26 said:
Will and nandroid backup and titanium backup save the contact data? As in the links to the facebook accounts?
If not what can i use is it possible?
Thanks
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You can sync your all your contacts with your Google account and then just install and re-sync Facebook after flashing need Rom..
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Nandroid backs everything up. It makes a disc image of the current rom. When you restore a nandroid backup, you restore the entire image.
You won't be able to restore the facebook links using titanium backup. Samsung updated the contact app when upgrading from Froyo to GB. I tried restoring data from Froyo apps to GB apps, and I got so many force close I ended up having reflash the rom. Note this only applies to stock apps. You can restore your market apps without any problem.

[Q]Nandroid Backup

Hello guys,
I bought SGS1 a while ago and changed some roms it was annoying losing my apps then my friend told me to use titanium backup it was more annyong cuz i had to backup one program at a time
then i heard about Nandroid Backup , so my question is:
if i change ROM lets say from MIUI to Darky or something and i used Nandroid Backup, all my apps will be there after i restore?

Your phone will shift back exactly where it was when you nandroid backed up ! And any progress from their will be lost !
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BHuvan goyal said:
Your phone will shift back exactly where it was when you nandroid backed up ! And any progress from their will be lost !
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So if I change rom from miui to brand new one and then i restore it will go back to miui? or it will just put my apps from miui on the brand new rom?

Its backup whole rom with apps...tge best possible solution is u have to use titanium backup pro it make a complete backup of apps....i thinkn u r using some free version pf titanium thats why i makes problem.
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Titanium Backup offers the option to backup all your apps at the same time, in case you didn't know. This may be only for the paid version though, I'm not sure. But considering it's the most useful app I've come across, it's definitely worth the money.
Menu > Batch

Disc0nectoR said:
So if I change rom from miui to brand new one and then i restore it will go back to miui? or it will just put my apps from miui on the brand new rom?
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Actually if you try to restore a nandroid backup after switching to cm7/miui, your phone simply wont work as the file systems are completely different.
To go back to a Samsung ROM from miui you would need to flash a stock Samsung ROM via odin, and THEN restore the nandroid.
Anyway, beyond that remember the following...
Titanium backs up apps and app data, use after changing ROMs to regain apps.
Nandroid takes a snapshot of the entire ROM, use in case of problems to repair your phone.
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rschenck said:
Actually if you try to restore a nandroid backup after switching to cm7/miui, your phone simply wont work as the file systems are completely different.
To go back to a Samsung ROM from miui you would need to flash a stock Samsung ROM via odin, and THEN restore the nandroid.
Anyway, beyond that remember the following...
Titanium backs up apps and app data, use after changing ROMs to regain apps.
Nandroid takes a snapshot of the entire ROM, use in case of problems to repair your phone.
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Correctly said rschenck!!
Basically if you are on CM7 and want to give a try to MIUI just make a NANDROID backup for full ROM backup and try MIUI ,if you don't like it then flash back CM7 first and then restore the NANDROID backup!!
when it comes to Titaniuim backup , it backs up your app data,freezes them and the apps you want (only in pro version) on any ROM and restore back after flashing any other ROM, if you are on free version then you must select manually which apps to backup that's a pain in the ass !!
Use these according to your requirements....and dont ever restore one rom's nandroid with another as the Kernels,Filesystems,Modems,Bootloaders are entirely different and that could mess up your phone !!
i would prefer NANDROID over Titanuim !!

Thanks guys for this wonderful explanation...just one more query:
I'm currently using samsung Stock rom, CF root kernel, with lagfix(ext4), and some "framework" tweaks..and am thinking of trying CyanogenMod. So if i do a Nandroid backup now, and later decide to come back from cyanogenmod, can i just use Odin to get to ANY Stock rom so that the partitions, file systems, modem etc get back to a similar old format, OR do i need this exact Stock rom version, Kernel, lagfix etc before i can restore the nandroid?
is "kernel" included in a Nandroid backup? also, are Types of filesystems included (or "Lagfix" has to be repeated)?

NANDroid backup

what is a nandroid? how do you perform a NANDroid backup of your current ROM? im going to cm7 stable from kj1. just wondering cause it says in the steps to install cm7. thanks..sorry for the noob ques..

its making a complete backup of ur current rom settings,apps and all. with i897 gingerbread roms i dont think u can restore a nandroid backup. but u would normally do a backup in recovery with cwm.

yes, nandroid on i897 ginger roms do not work.
but the procedure would be to make a backup. then if you flash a different rom from what the backup was made from you would have to flash the rom back that was backed up THEN restore the nandroid and it will be like you never flashed away from that rom.
DO NOT EVER restore a nandroid to a set up it was not backed up on, it will bootloop.

studacris said:
DO NOT EVER restore a nandroid to a set up it was not backed up on, it will bootloop.
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can you expound on that please...hahaha..sorry im reading it over and over..just need to clarify..what you mean? thanks btw guys for the reply..so basically nandroid backs up your rom..cause just the name sounded confusing..i mean why name it nandroid when they can just say in the intructions before flashing a rom to just "back up" your rom..haha..i thought nandroid was something else..cause i heard other people saying something about efs or whatever and backing it up but i dont even know what that is especially..thanks though for replies..got it..

Say you back up your current ROM, then flash another. You can't just restore ROM A onto ROM b. You have to flash back to ROM A and THEN restore the nandroid and it will be like you never flashed ROM b. All of you settings and everything will be intact.
Efs is totally different, that is a partition that contains your phones individual data, it's imei which you have to manually backup it's not included in a nandroid.

Components backed up by NANDroid
Which of these components does NANDROID back up?
- bootloaders?
- kernel?
- system apps and other apps?
- modems?
- other parts of the OS?
Thanks for sharing the knowledge.

The firmware and system settings.
No kernel
No bootloader
No modem

studacris said:
Say you back up your current ROM, then flash another. You can't just restore ROM A onto ROM b. You have to flash back to ROM A and THEN restore the nandroid and it will be like you never flashed ROM b. All of you settings and everything will be intact.
Efs is totally different, that is a partition that contains your phones individual data, it's imei which you have to manually backup it's not included in a nandroid.
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Kindly clarify this please, i want to backup my stock rom before going custom.
So inorder to do a complete backup, we need to do a nandroid backup and also backup imei separately?? and then restore both of them when i flash back to stock??

ayush29k said:
Kindly clarify this please, i want to backup my stock rom before going custom.
So inorder to do a complete backup, we need to do a nandroid backup and also backup imei separately?? and then restore both of them when i flash back to stock??
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They are two separate issues, really, but you are correct that you should back up both.
Nandroid lets you go back to a previous state, as long as you flash back to the correct ROM before you restore it. It will not let you restore data to your new installation, though. If you want to restore your applications in your new ROM, you can download Titanium Backup from the market which will let you batch save your applications now and restore them on your new ROM (It can also save and restore system data, but don't restore system data between ROMs, it causes all sorts of weird issues).
Backing up your EFS folder is something you should do, but hopefully will never have to restore. Your EFS folder contains information about your phone and should never actually get touched in any way when flashing ROMs. However, things go wrong and sometimes this folder ends up getting corrupted for whatever reason, which can lead to a corrupt IMEI code and no service. If this were to happen, you would restore you EFS from backup. I think it's safe to say most of us have never had to actually do this, but better safe than sorry. You can do a search for backing it up and find several threads about it.
Happy flashing!

lol...I was about to do nandroid backup! These post wre real helpful...thank you!

See this thread in the Development Forum for Corn Kernel... It has a working nandroid. BTW, that kernel is for i897 Gingerbread Roms.

Components backed up by nandroid
KarateKick said:
Which of these components does NANDROID back up?
- bootloaders?
- kernel?
- system apps and other apps?
- modems?
- other parts of the OS?
Thanks for sharing the knowledge.
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studacris said:
The firmware and system settings.
No kernel
No bootloader
No modem
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When I run a nandroid backup I see it processing these:
- boot image
- recovery image
- system
- data
- datadata
- .android_secure
- cache
- sd-ext
Can anyone explain some of these terms to me? I am pretty new to all this.

This thread has all the goodies defined pretty well http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1093062

Guys , if I have two same model phones , one with alot of games and modded ROM and the other is standard , Can I take NANDroid backup from the first and restore in in the second ?
thanx in advanced

abdu_mka said:
Guys , if I have two same model phones , one with alot of games and modded ROM and the other is standard , Can I take NANDroid backup from the first and restore in in the second ?
thanx in advanced
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You will need to first get it on the same modded ROM and then flash the backup. They will then be identicle

Hello,
This is the thread I was looking for. It just tackles top backup/restore issues I want to be positive of before tinkering around.
Now, what app is capable of doing a nandroid backup, if any? RomManager?
If a nandroid backup consists of the firmware and system settings but no kernel, bootloader or modem, how are these three backed up then?
My goal is making a stock unrooted (if possible) backup.
A concerning restoring, from this thread I understand that the restore process is composed of:
1st restore ROM A (which?)
2nd restore nandroid (which?)
3rd restore data/apps (Titanium is able to)
4th restore EFS folder (how?)
Please, correct/suggest. I appreciate.
Greetings,

galaxymny said:
Hello,
This is the thread I was looking for. It just tackles top backup/restore issues I want to be positive of before tinkering around.
Now, what app is capable of doing a nandroid backup, if any? RomManager?
If a nandroid backup consists of the firmware and system settings but no kernel, bootloader or modem, how are these three backed up then?
My goal is making a stock unrooted (if possible) backup.
A concerning restoring, from this thread I understand that the restore process is composed of:
1st restore ROM A (which?)
2nd restore nandroid (which?)
3rd restore data/apps (Titanium is able to)
4th restore EFS folder (how?)
Please, correct/suggest. I appreciate.
Greetings,
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First of all, you have revived an old thread with now false information. A nandroid does include modem and kernel. Bootloaders can't be backed up, and there really wouldn't be a point in that. No app can do a backup, and please don't use ROM manager; it's obsolete. As for your steps: You probably only need to flash a ROM first if the partition table is being changed. Meaning you can't restore a Samsung ROM over an AOSP ROM. You won't need to use titanium backup because you will have restored the phone to the exact state it was when you took the backup. Meaning there won't be anything to restore. Efs? Don't touch it, we never will be deleting it.
Sent from my CM9 ICS i897 Captivate

Modems and kernels ARE NOT backed up in a Nandroid...

Hello,
@korockinout13: I don't think I'm providing false info. Actually, i've been gathering from the thread. I think there's some disagreement on what a nandroid backup really backs up from the views expressed in the thread. Plus, it's pure netiquette not opening new threads for a topic already started somewhere else in a forum. It's power ecology. No hard feelings, though.
Thank you and b-eock for your replies. I think I'd rather use cwm instead.
My goal is still the same: making a stock unrooted (if possible) backup as there are no roms available for my brand new Mini:
pda S5570XWKQG
phone S5570XWKQ5
csc S5570YOGKQ3
android version 2.3.4
Kernel 2.6.35
Thank you both!

b-eock said:
Modems and kernels ARE NOT backed up in a Nandroid...
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Someone told me about the modem part, so I'm not really sure about that. But if it doesn't backup the kernel, why does restoring a nandroid put you back on the kernel you had previously (i.e. Glitch)?

Nandroid restore problem

Basically I'm using ICS333 which is great and to do I was trying to make some changes to the stock contacts apps. Anyway, I did a nandroid backup via CWM 5.5 so that I can restore if anything went wrong and sure enough I flashed something meant for JB. I went to restore my backup and afterwards rebooted... except now it is stuck in a loop when it reaches the ICS loading screen.
The only way to make it boot in ICS now is to wipe all personal data... which makes the backup meaningless.
In all honesty, the only thing I really want to keep is my whatsapp and texts. I'm currently trying to restore individual bits of the backup to see what causes the problem but can I extract data from a Nandroid backup?

This day gets better, now my home button doesn't work!

Ultraman1966 said:
can I extract data from a Nandroid backup?
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yes, download a nandroid browser from play store, and try My Android solutions (link below) for a suitable remedy

For for the tips, I used Titanium backup to retrieve some of the info but didn't to junk the rest. Less crap on the phone means it runs like butter again!