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Hey guys, I have two TVs that don't seem to have HDMI cec so it wont turn on my TV or switch inputs. One is fairly old and a new one is a Westinghouse so I guess it was to cheap to have it. I was wondering if there was some kind of adapter to enable cec on non cec TVs?
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r.storm85 said:
Hey guys, I have two TVs that don't seem to have HDMI cec so it wont turn on my TV or switch inputs. One is fairly old and a new one is a Westinghouse so I guess it was to cheap to have it. I was wondering if there was some kind of adapter to enable cec on non cec TVs?
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If you give us the make and model of your TVs then maybe we can determine for sure if they do or don't
While it's technically possible if you had some kind of HDMI interpreter/sniffer for the CEC commands and a variety of home-automation mechanisms for handling the necessary IR blasting, short answer is you're extremely unlikely to see this as a commodity-produced product, or even as a small-production product.
It's far easier and more economical to get a newer TV that supports CEC, so there's little market for such a device.
Well the old one is a 40" Rca that is about 4 years old, not sure the model. And the new one is a 40 inch westinghouse dwm40f1g1
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r.storm85 said:
Well the old one is a 40" Rca that is about 4 years old, not sure the model. And the new one is a 40 inch westinghouse dwm40f1g1
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Page 12 of your Westinghouse's manual seems to at least say they're aware HDMI can carry control.
HDMI plug which replaces the HDMI connection allows transfer of all audio/video/control signals through one cable only.
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Then again, there's obviously a mistake there with the HDMI replacing... HDMI, so confidence is a little shaken, heh.
You are using wall power for the Chromecast, rather than the TV's USB port, right?
Not going to find anything that will enable HDMI-CEC as it is has much to do with the wiring of the HDMI port and Internal circuitry.
Even if you found a device to convert CEC into an IR blast it would only work if the CCast was plugged into it which would be a waste of money just to get a Chromecast to turn on a TV.
If your going to spend that kind of money go get a full IR over IP Blaster for the whole system which should come with a control panel you can use on your Tablet as well. (either via App or HTML)
Much better investment if you ask me.
I should point out though that the price of a IR over IP blaster is almost half what a typical 40" TV with HDMI-CEC goes for! LOL
Ya using the wall power.
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Asphyx said:
I should point out though that the price of a IR over IP blaster is almost half what a typical 40" TV with HDMI-CEC goes for! LOL
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Yup, add the time required to configure (or pay someone) and you're at a new TV. But everyone's time is worth different amounts to them.
Me, I'd probably gift the old TV to relatives.
bhiga said:
Yup, add the time required to configure (or pay someone) and you're at a new TV. But everyone's time is worth different amounts to them.
Me, I'd probably gift the old TV to relatives.
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Yes but if the IR blaster is set up the right way you can have loads of fun scaring the hell out of Babysitters and Maids who are slacking off and Watching your TV when they should be dusting! LOL
Fun for the Whole Family!
I was excited to get my Chromecast today, but not excited after testing some of the apps. I can use Netflix fine without issue, but all other apps have severe audio choppiness. For the sake of testing I moved the CC to my Vizio TV and tested the various apps and had no issues. My issue seems to be specific to my JVC LT-46P510 TV.
Anyone have any ideas on a fix? I checked for a firmware update, but nothing. Hoping someone has an answer out there.
I've heard of problems just like this. Other cases were signal issues. Use the extender that came with the cc and make sure the power is plugged into the wall and not a USB on the TV. If this doesn't work you might want to think of moving g the router if possible.
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Cuzz1369 said:
I've heard of problems just like this. Other cases were signal issues. Use the extender that came with the cc and make sure the power is plugged into the wall and not a USB on the TV. If this doesn't work you might want to think of moving g the router if possible.
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Appreciate the response. I am currently using the extender and on USB power. As for the router it is about 1 foot from the CC.
Snyperx said:
Appreciate the response. I am currently using the extender and on USB power. As for the router it is about 1 foot from the CC.
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In that case, try moving the Chromecast and router farther apart. Too close/strong is also not good for signal strength - the whole constructive/destructive interference thing.
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In that case, try moving the Chromecast and router farther apart. Too close/strong is also not good for signal strength - the whole constructive/destructive interference thing.
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I guess my question would be, why does Netflix work perfectly then and the other apps have the audio issue? The video play fine for all apps.
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I guess my question would be, why does Netflix work perfectly then and the other apps have the audio issue? The video play fine for all apps.
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It's up to the individual app as to what it points Chromecast to, then it's up to the provider (or site) as to what format is delivered. Seems Netflix is delivering audio in a format that is problematic for your equipment. HDMI supports a few different audio formats as well as sampling rates and bit depths.
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I would also check the input settings on that TV as well...Some TVs allow you to select which format to expect Audio over HDMI in/
I have the opposite problem. Netflix is all jacked up like Alvin and the chipmunks underwater while other apps are fine.
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Did some app specific testing this morning with some additional info/results. Out of the apps I have installed here is a list of the ones that are working correcting and the ones that are not.
Apps with Choppy Audio:
BeyondPod
Pandora
Vevo
Google Movies
Google Music
YouTube
Apps Working Correctly:
NetFlix
Revision3 TV
RedBull TV
I am hoping a developer or someone with greater knowledge can chime in. I did check JVC's website and no firmware available. I also checked the settings for the input and found nothing for adjusting input audio.
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I am hoping a developer or someone with greater knowledge can chime in. I did check JVC's website and no firmware available. I also checked the settings for the input and found nothing for adjusting input audio.
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Well you say the device works fine on other TVs right?
That suggests it isn't the CCast that is the problem...
Only thing left to blame is the TV. I would suggest calling JVC support.
One thing I noted from your Manual specs is the TV only supports PCM. I'm going to guess this is a very old TV as far as HDMI standards go.
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Well you say the device works fine on other TVs right?
That suggests it isn't the CCast that is the problem...
Only thing left to blame is the TV. I would suggest calling JVC support.
One thing I noted from your Manual specs is the TV only supports PCM. I'm going to guess this is a very old TV as far as HDMI standards go.
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TV was manufactured in 2010. I suppose that could be old in HDMI standards.
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TV was manufactured in 2010. I suppose that could be old in HDMI standards.
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Sadly, it might be. My Sony TV is 2009 and it doesn't support DLNA Video - only Pictures and Music. Not that I'd really use its interface for that anyway, but you get the point.
Manufacturers tend to lag behind the release of a standard since it takes time to design a product, acquire licenses, and bring it to market. The times when they are chomping at the bit to be first (or at least current), you get stuff like the early 802.11n "draft" hardware that didn't always get updated if there was some hardware limitation.
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TV was manufactured in 2010. I suppose that could be old in HDMI standards.
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It's less about what year the TV was made and more about how old the design is and what technology they decided to include.
Sometimes to keep the price down they use older circuitry and outdated CPUs since they are cheap to buy at the time,
Sometimes it's all about how much time they spent on the Settings programming, and protocol support.
Still say that a call to JVC would be the best option, Just be sure to tell them that you have no problems with your unit in other areas and DO NOT under ANY circumstances tell them anything they can use to say NOT OUR PROBLEM!
Don't mention things like Signal Strength of WiFi or anything but the fact that it doesn't work with their TV but works with all the others.
Give them even an inch to say it's not our fault and you will get no help.
Hopefully your will not be the first call they get if it is a model wide problem and maybe they will come up with a firmware update to fix it.
Sounds like I am almost S.O.L.
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Sounds like I am almost S.O.L.
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No just that it maybe time to upgrade your TV or that there maybe something wrong with it that you hadn't noticed till now.
I would even try another input just to see if it's just a matter of a bad one.
Asphyx said:
No just that it maybe time to upgrade your TV or that there maybe something wrong with it that you hadn't noticed till now.
I would even try another input just to see if it's just a matter of a bad one.
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Only had the TV about 2 years. I did open a ticket with JVC, though have done that in the past for another issue and never heard a word from them. Poor technical support. Will see what happens with this one.
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Only had the TV about 2 years. I did open a ticket with JVC, though have done that in the past for another issue and never heard a word from them. Poor technical support. Will see what happens with this one.
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The only way to get good results from tech support is to call them and keep them on the phone until they have a decent answer....
Most of the time that means getting past the guy reading from the idiot test menu that tells you the shut off or power down the unit blah blah blah....
Normally I wouldn't blame the TV but you said the unit works fine on others but not the JVC.
The only other option I can think of is to buy a cheap Audio Amp that has at least two HDMI Inputs and plug the CCast into that and let the Amp feed the TV. Then at least your gaining some capability for the money you will be spending.
I would never buy a JVC TV (I tend to stay away from Panasonic these days as well).
Samsung is the Monitor leader along with Phillips. Samsung actually makes a lot of the LED Panels the other brands use.
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The only way to get good results from tech support is to call them and keep them on the phone until they have a decent answer....
Most of the time that means getting past the guy reading from the idiot test menu that tells you the shut off or power down the unit blah blah blah....
Normally I wouldn't blame the TV but you said the unit works fine on others but not the JVC.
The only other option I can think of is to buy a cheap Audio Amp that has at least two HDMI Inputs and plug the CCast into that and let the Amp feed the TV. Then at least your gaining some capability for the money you will be spending.
I would never buy a JVC TV (I tend to stay away from Panasonic these days as well).
Samsung is the Monitor leader along with Phillips. Samsung actually makes a lot of the LED Panels the other brands use.
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Don't be afraid to politely ask for your case to be escalated.
I still remember when Sony support was adamant that I unscrew my Clie NX80V's stylus to push the reset button on the back... The NX80V's stylus didn't unscrew and its reset was on the side, pushable by the non-unscrewing stylus. I humored them and pretended to unscrew it.
You could also get an off-board decoder that will "dumb things down" to PCM, but for what you'll usually pay for that, you get a better deal getting the amp with it.
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Don't be afraid to politely ask for your case to be escalated.
I still remember when Sony support was adamant that I .....
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LOL the Beauty of being in Broadcast...I would just call up my Broadcast rep who would have the Consumer guy who worked on the unit development call me back!
Yes don't be afraid to ask to be escalated to a higher level tech. They are available but usually only get them when you confuse the ell out of the guy who originally answered the phone by talking tech way over his head! LOL
Well Sadly I have yet to find a solution to my issue. I pretty much have a Chromecaset where only the Netflix app works on my JVC TV. Not going to upgrade my TV just to get Chromecast to work. Back to a Roku I guess.
I have not seen any specific threads addressing this, and thus far I am guessing I know the answer to my own question.. but is it possible to use my device for audio instead of my television? My specific issue is the fact that I am using an old computer monitor for my chromecast in my bedroom. It does not have HDMI, so I am using an HDMI to DVI converter (no audio). I'm fairly certain that there's no way (doubt my Nexus 7 being rooted would help) to stream the audio through my device but I thought I'd ask anyway. Thanks people.
Jersey846 said:
I have not seen any specific threads addressing this, and thus far I am guessing I know the answer to my own question.. but is it possible to use my device for audio instead of my television? My specific issue is the fact that I am using an old computer monitor for my chromecast in my bedroom. It does not have HDMI, so I am using an HDMI to DVI converter (no audio). I'm fairly certain that there's no way (doubt my Nexus 7 being rooted would help) to stream the audio through my device but I thought I'd ask anyway. Thanks people.
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Not really since the CCast for all intents and purposes is pulling the file from the source and while you could probably get the mbile device to pull the same file it would be next to impossible to sync the two in any meaningful way.
Your best bet is to get a HDMI to VGA Breakout cable/box that will pull the Audio out of the HDMI so you can plug into an amp or Powered Speakers.
http://www.amazon.com/HDMI-VGA-converter-Audio-Converter/dp/B003O55U8K
But if you use one of those your likely to lose the ability to play some content that requires HDCP to play (I'm thinking Netflix might require this)
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Not really since the CCast for all intents and purposes is pulling the file from the source and while you could probably get the mbile device to pull the same file it would be next to impossible to sync the two in any meaningful way.
Your best bet is to get a HDMI to VGA Breakout cable/box that will pull the Audio out of the HDMI so you can plug into an amp or Powered Speakers.
http://www.amazon.com/HDMI-VGA-converter-Audio-Converter/dp/B003O55U8K
But if you use one of those your likely to lose the ability to play some content that requires HDCP to play (I'm thinking Netflix might require this)
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That was an idea I had. But that looks like a VGA when the computer monitor has DVI. To get what I'd need to get sound running with the converter price wise, it'd almost make more sense just to get something that has an HDMI input. This was only a temporary method until I get married. After that we'll have plenty of devices collectively to get anything we need working on any of our televisions. I'd use my television with my Chromecast but around 4 years ago the HDMI ports were fried by the cable guy somehow. So all I have connected now is a 360 connected through component cables. If it wasn't for my Android phone and tablet I'd be in the technological stone age.
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That was an idea I had. But that looks like a VGA when the computer monitor has DVI.
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You can get an HDMI audio extractor box but make sure it has the type of audio you need (analog, digital coax, or digital optical)
Some computer monitors allow audio over DVI, but it's still hit and miss.
bhiga said:
You can get an HDMI audio extractor box but make sure it has the type of audio you need (analog, digital coax, or digital optical)
Some computer monitors allow audio over DVI, but it's still hit and miss.
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That'd be where I went on amazon and bought the wrong thing. I'll look them up though thanks!
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Jersey846 said:
That'd be where I went on amazon and bought the wrong thing. I'll look them up though thanks!
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You want something like this
http://www.amazon.com/ViewHD-Premiu...d_sim_e_1?ie=UTF8&refRID=03D4CC082H41SMFNMZYT
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You want something like this
http://www.amazon.com/ViewHD-Premiu...d_sim_e_1?ie=UTF8&refRID=03D4CC082H41SMFNMZYT
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Yeah I considered that. But with all things considered, a $40 price tag is a pretty steep alternative for what I was hoping. Maybe when Chromecast mirroring is released it will accomplish what I was hoping for.
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Jersey846 said:
Yeah I considered that. But with all things considered, a $40 price tag is a pretty steep alternative for what I was hoping. Maybe when Chromecast mirroring is released it will accomplish what I was hoping for.
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True. That's why I didn't post the $99 one.
If your TV is under warranty I'd get it fixed.
Even if you got audio out of your device it would be very difficult to sync it with what's playing on Chromecast, as they'd essentially be pulling two entirely separate streams.
The same would hold for Android screen mirroring when it arrives, but that would be a delay due to having to get the screen data to Chromecast.
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True. That's why I didn't post the $99 one.
If your TV is under warranty I'd get it fixed.
Even if you got audio out of your device it would be very difficult to sync it with what's playing on Chromecast, as they'd essentially be pulling two entirely separate streams.
The same would hold for Android screen mirroring when it arrives, but that would be a delay due to having to get the screen data to Chromecast.
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TV is fairly old and hasn't been under warranty for a while. It's a 47". Once we get married we'll be purchasing a 60" or so one. The 360 works fine with component cable on it for now. I'll be using the Chromecast with the newer TV. If I didn't have that engagement ring expense I'd already have that 60" along with my '69 Charger. She offered to help pay for it, but what's the fun in that?!
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Jersey846 said:
If I didn't have that engagement ring expense I'd already have that 60" along with my '69 Charger. She offered to help pay for it, but what's the fun in that?!
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If we're lucky maybe Google will enable the Bluetooth so we can have some Bluetooth audio, but I wouldn't hold my breath.
bhiga said:
If we're lucky maybe Google will enable the Bluetooth so we can have some Bluetooth audio, but I wouldn't hold my breath.
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Now that'd be an interesting feature! Didn't think of that actually. Wouldn't they need new hardware for that like on a Chromecast 2?
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Now that'd be an interesting feature! Didn't think of that actually. Wouldn't they need new hardware for that like on a Chromecast 2?
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Not necessarily. iFixit's teardown showed the radio is an AzureWave AW-NH387 802.11 b/g/n WLAN, Bluetooth and FM Combo Module, so it's Bluetooth 3.0 capable and compatible with North American and European FM radio bands.
In theory Google could give us Chromecast FM, hehe.
The Lytro camera had similar radio capabilities which were disabled at launch. They eventually enabled the WiFi, though in an AdHoc mode, and they've pretty much written off Android support, so it was a bit of a wash to me.
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That was an idea I had. But that looks like a VGA when the computer monitor has DVI. To get what I'd need to get sound running with the converter price wise, it'd almost make more sense just to get something that has an HDMI input. This was only a temporary method until I get married. After that we'll have plenty of devices collectively to get anything we need working on any of our televisions. I'd use my television with my Chromecast but around 4 years ago the HDMI ports were fried by the cable guy somehow. So all I have connected now is a 360 connected through component cables. If it wasn't for my Android phone and tablet I'd be in the technological stone age.
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They sell the same type of box with DVI output...So just buy the appropriate box for your connections.
You can find them for under $100 (prob around $60) but then again if your going to spend that much your probably better off just saving for a good TV which would accommodate all your devices properly.
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In theory Google could give us Chromecast FM, hehe.
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I'd use it!
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Hi,
I have buy a chromecast ultra at the airport yesterday. I have try to connect it to my TV without success.
At the first boot, I have a black screen on my TV and my android phone with google home apps saying that their is an update for my Chromecast ultra.
Now, if I make a factory reset or press the reset button I get this :
- On the TV, I can see a blue screen with Chromecast Ultra and a yellow circle. After a few seconds, the chromecast seems reboot, the screen become black and the LED on the chromecast is blinking in white.
- I can configure the chromecast using google home apps or the chrome extension. After the configuration, the screen on the TV is always black and the LED on the chromecast ultra is white and fix.
You can see all of this on the video below :
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B9YcqL1nFiDaXzBBOWRGR3A2clk
I have only one HDMI port on the TV and I don't know the manufacturer. Devices like SOny PS3 work on my TV using HDMI. I have disconnect and reconnect all but it doesn't change anything.
Google say that some old TV are not compatible with their device. Can you help me to solve the problem ?
Thanks for your help.
Is your TV a 4K TV, the ultra is for 4K TVs?
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My TV isn't 4k. It's an old TV.
I have buy the Ultra version because the store only have this version.
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Is your TV a 4K TV, the ultra is for 4K TVs?
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Yes it may be meant for 4K TVs but it should still display on lower resolutions as well.
My suggestion is to bring the unit back to where you bought it and let them test it on one of their monitors and see if they get screen.
It is very possible you just got a lemon unit.
I can't bring back the unit. I have buy it in an airport during holiday.
I test it on the new TV of a friend, I get a picture. I hope that the device can work on old TV or on TV that is not smart.
Is there a solution to make the ChromeCast Ultra compatible with my old TV ? Is there a configuration file that I can edit or an adaptator that I can put between the ChromeCast and my TV ?
Thanks,
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I can't bring back the unit. I have buy it in an airport during holiday.
I test it on the new TV of a friend, I get a picture. I hope that the device can work on old TV or on TV that is not smart.
Is there a solution to make the ChromeCast Ultra compatible with my old TV ? Is there a configuration file that I can edit or an adaptator that I can put between the ChromeCast and my TV ?
Thanks,
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The age of the TV doesn't matter...If it has an HDMI input then it should display in whatever resolution the TV supports.
Since it works on other TVs the only thing left is that the Input to the TV is bad.
Is there another input you can try it on?
Bad news, your TV is too old since it works on your friends TV.
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Is there another input you can try it on?
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No. I have only 1 HDMI port on the TV. The other input is SCART.
villegente said:
No. I have only 1 HDMI port on the TV. The other input is SCART.
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So this is a French TV? (which could explain your problem.)
What Airport did you buy this Chromecast?
I'm going to bet that you have a SECAM TV but the CCast may only supports NTSC or PAL.
If you bought this in the US it is possible it won't support a SECAM TV but the UK version might since PAL and SECAM are very similar.
It's a combination of things working against you here...Yes the TV is a bit old and not very forgiving in what signals it will accept. coupled with the fact that France, and the Former Soviet countries were the only ones who used the SECAM standard where most of Europe uses PAL and the rest of the world uses NTSC.
The cheapest solution is probably to buy a new TV as there is no guarantee that any CCast will work with that one.
You could probably buy a PAL adapter and convert the signal but that is likely to cost as much as a new TV will.
Thanks for your answer.
I don't know if my TV is Secam or Pal. I only use it with my Sony PS3.
I have buy the ChromeCast in Australia.
villegente said:
Thanks for your answer.
I don't know if my TV is Secam or Pal. I only use it with my Sony PS3.
I have buy the ChromeCast in Australia.
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If it has SCART it is probably only SECAM....
The Aussie CCast is definitely PAL compatible.
I'm guessing your TV was one of the tweener models many people got stuck with in the time where SD was being phased out and Digital standards were not yet set.
Hello,
I have the same issue here and it seems that the chromecast is outputting at 1080p when ur TVs are only going up to 480p
Not nice to mention this risk on google side
As they Title says. Could you please let me know if you're used any that works with 5t. I'm getting my phone next week and would like to get adapter so I can plug my phone to big screen when I'm at home/ office...
NOPE!! theres no video out on it. try using a Chromecast.
kouklo said:
NOPE!! theres no video out on it. try using a Chromecast.
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I know theta no video out. But there's a lot of mhl cables that you can buy. That's where I was looking at thanks.
sorry I should have explained better. My bad. When I said no I meant there is zero way to get any kind of video out from the phone, I have looked everywhere. No MHL, SlimPort, or HDMI. Like most companies today, OnePlus has not included it in the hardware. For the most part, everyone is pushing for wireless video like the Chromecast.
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Hi guys
I need to display from my phone to a 4k screen via HDMI cable
Any recommendations for a good converter
I think a google chromecast ultra is a good way.