[Q] 4.4.3 to 4.4.2 Xt1058 - Moto X Q&A

I was wondering if i can safely flash the 4.4.2 file from sbf (retail argentina) on a 4.4.3 (from OTA) phone?

ramarivera said:
I was wondering if i can safely flash the 4.4.2 file from sbf (retail argentina) on a 4.4.3 (from OTA) phone?
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I'm sure someone here can explain better than I can, but I've read time and time again don't downgrade, there is the risk of bricking

ramarivera said:
I was wondering if i can safely flash the 4.4.2 file from sbf (retail argentina) on a 4.4.3 (from OTA) phone?
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Yes, as @M973 has advised, you can not "safely" downgrade back to 4.4.2. The reason is that "gpt.bin" - the partition table can NOT be downgraded. Even if you are able to manually downgrade the rest of the partitions to 4.4.2, you will still have a mismatched gpt.bin, and hence will be at risk of bricking the next time you take an OTA.
Once the 4.4.3 or higher SBF for retail Argentina is released, you CAN safely flash it, without risk of bricking.

samwathegreat said:
Yes, as @M973 has advised, you can not "safely" downgrade back to 4.4.2. The reason is that "gpt.bin" - the partition table can NOT be downgraded. Even if you are able to manually downgrade the rest of the partitions to 4.4.2, you will still have a mismatched gpt.bin, and hence will be at risk of bricking the next time you take an OTA.
Once the 4.4.3 or higher SBF for retail Argentina is released, you CAN safely flash it, without risk of bricking.
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Is it normal for the ota to have been reelased and still no sign of the 4.4.3 SBF on motorola site?

ramarivera said:
Is it normal for the ota to have been reelased and still no sign of the 4.4.3 SBF on motorola site?
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Yes, it is completely normal. Usually, the SBF is not released for days, weeks, or sometimes even months after the OTA comes out.

I went from 4.4.3 Retail Brazil to 4.4.2, it is possible, yes, you may have a gpt.bin mismatch but at the end I took the 4.4.3 OTA and 4.4.4. And it is working fine. The reason I had to downgrade was that my 4.4.3 was rooted and with xposed and uninstalling and flashing stock recovery did not work while booting the 4.4.4 OTA.
So it can be done but with precaution.

ramarivera said:
Is it normal for the ota to have been reelased and still no sign of the 4.4.3 SBF on motorola site?
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Define Moto's site.
For example -> http://sbf.droid-developers.org/ is neither owned, nor operated, nor sponsored, nor connected to moto in anyway. Its hosted, run, maintained by some "guys" who come across or otherwise FIND the SBF files, and post them. SBF/FXZ files do not appear there until they are found or leaked. How long that takes has no pattern.
On the other hand... This site -> https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/recovery-images *IS* owned and operated by Motorola. It contains the recovery images for the Developer Edition phones (XT1053 and XT1060... note these images also work for the equivalent Non-Dev XT1053 and XT1060 from moto maker and "retail"). Moto posts the images, but it seems its usually AFTER that particular android version has been rolled out to all models in all locations (i.e. the 4.4.2 SBF for the GSM and VZW Dev Edition X didn't show up on Moto's site until after the roll out to 4.4.2 was done on all carriers to all X models, even non-Dev Edition devices).

aben2amu said:
I went from 4.4.3 Retail Brazil to 4.4.2, it is possible, yes, you may have a gpt.bin mismatch but at the end I took the 4.4.3 OTA and 4.4.4. And it is working fine. The reason I had to downgrade was that my 4.4.3 was rooted and with xposed and uninstalling and flashing stock recovery did not work while booting the 4.4.4 OTA.
So it can be done but with precaution.
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Thats exactly what i want to do, i have a XT1058 , so so say its safe then?
KidJoe said:
Define Moto's site.
For example -> http://sbf.droid-developers.org/ is neither owned, nor operated, nor sponsored, nor connected to moto in anyway. Its hosted, run, maintained by some "guys" who come across or otherwise FIND the SBF files, and post them. SBF/FXZ files do not appear there until they are found or leaked. How long that takes has no pattern.
On the other hand... This site -> https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/recovery-images *IS* owned and operated by Motorola. It contains the recovery images for the Developer Edition phones (XT1053 and XT1060... note these images also work for the equivalent Non-Dev XT1053 and XT1060 from moto maker and "retail"). Moto posts the images, but it seems its usually AFTER that particular android version has been rolled out to all models in all locations (i.e. the 4.4.2 SBF for the GSM and VZW Dev Edition X didn't show up on Moto's site until after the roll out to 4.4.2 was done on all carriers to all X models, even non-Dev Edition devices).
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Yes, my bad, i was talking about http://sbf.droid-developers.org

ramarivera said:
Thats exactly what i want to do, i have a XT1058 , so so say its safe then?
Yes, my bad, i was talking about http://sbf.droid-developers.org
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@ramarivera : It is your phone, so you can do with it as you would like. Keep in mind that although the procedure worked for that individual, if you try this, you are doing so at your own risk.
I wish you the best of luck. :good:

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How to downgrade bootloader 4.4.2 > 4.4? I'm at limbo!

Hello folks.
I'm on a bit of a limbo. Can you help me?
Fist of all i should state that i was a former Galaxy S3 owner, so even if I have some experience with the underworld of rooting and flashing, bootloader issues are a bit alien for me.
The problem:
My Brazilian Moto X with unlocked bootloader was on 4.4, and after receiving the OTA update, i thought that i could update it if I removed root and etc (after all i was not using Xposed and ETC, so no deep modifications at /system that i know).
Of course i was wrong, and as greeted with a nice bootloop by my moto X. No problem, I got the 4.4.2 UK and flashed it thought RSD lite. After the flashing, I dit not liked the modifications the UK 4.4.2 retail have (like carrier name on bar, etc etc) and just flashed Philz and recovered my nandroid.
All is nice, but now i can't update to 4.4.2 Brazilian because i can't install 4.4 Retail Brazilian trought RSD lite, since the Moto X just detects that it haves 4.4.2 bootloader and not let me downgrade! I'm in a Limbo \o/
What now? There is any way to downgrade the bootloader? There is any one who have a full Brazilian 4.4.2 image (or a image without carrier name on the bar) for unlocked bootloaders? Any 4.4.2 flashable update using CWM or TWRP?
Oh god, so many questions. Thanks for your atention!
brunodmjr said:
Hello folks.
I'm on a bit of a limbo. Can you help me?
Fist of all i should state that i was a former Galaxy S3 owner, so even if I have some experience with the underworld of rooting and flashing, bootloader issues are a bit alien for me.
The problem:
My Brazilian Moto X with unlocked bootloader was on 4.4, and after receiving the OTA update, i thought that i could update it if I removed root and etc (after all i was not using Xposed and ETC, so no deep modifications at /system that i know).
Of course i was wrong, and as greeted with a nice bootloop by my moto X. No problem, I got the 4.4.2 UK and flashed it thought RSD lite. After the flashing, I dit not liked the modifications the UK 4.4.2 retail have (like carrier name on bar, etc etc) and just flashed Philz and recovered my nandroid.
All is nice, but now i can't update to 4.4.2 Brazilian because i can't install 4.4 Retail Brazilian trought RSD lite, since the Moto X just detects that it haves 4.4.2 bootloader and not let me downgrade! I'm in a Limbo \o/
What now? There is any way to downgrade the bootloader? There is any one who have a full Brazilian 4.4.2 image (or a image without carrier name on the bar) for unlocked bootloaders? Any 4.4.2 flashable update using CWM or TWRP?
Oh god, so many questions. Thanks for your atention!
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you can't downgrade the bootlaoder sorry
as for the carrier name in the bar someone will make a xposed mod to remove it.
i would either stay with 4.4 if that makes you happy or flash the correct 4.4.2 firmware for your device and tweak it to your liking.
Unfortunately you cannot downgrade the bootloader from 4.4.2 to 4.4.
Is it so dificult to do a 4.4.2 flashable update or we just lack devs?
brunodmjr said:
Is it so dificult to do a 4.4.2 flashable update or we just lack devs?
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If you find the factory 4.4.2 image for your device, then you manually flash the 4.4.2 files.
Mr. Orange 645 said:
If you find the factory 4.4.2 image for your device, then you manually flash the 4.4.2 files.
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I can only find the UK one. There is no 4.4.2 factory image for Brazilian Moto X, and i really don't want to install Xposed to remove the carrier name from the bar, since i play Square Enix titles.
brunodmjr said:
I can only find the UK one. There is no 4.4.2 factory image for Brazilian Moto X, and i really don't want to install Xposed to remove the carrier name from the bar, since i play Square Enix titles.
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Well...then you are at an impasse. Sorry.
Mr. Orange 645 said:
Well...then you are at an impasse. Sorry.
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So bad. Know any way to convert the OTA update to a CWM flashable zip? Any guide or something?
brunodmjr said:
So bad. Know any way to convert the OTA update to a CWM flashable zip? Any guide or something?
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No. I, like you, depend on the hard work of developers here for that kind of thing.
Mr. Orange 645 said:
No. I, like you, depend on the hard work of developers here for that kind of thing.
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I'm a dev too. Let's research.
The full image will probably be available in a few days to a week, so you should probably just wait for it since your phone is working.
Boot loaders are number differently that's why everyone who has flash, or just about everyone who has flashed a new firmware has had issue evedn though the firmwares are 4.4.2, morale . Flash only your specific carrier firmware and all this craziness would stop, my 2 cents
Sent on my Lenoto A2109 tablet
flashallthetime said:
Boot loaders are number differently that's why everyone who has flash, or just about everyone who has flashed a new firmware has had issue evedn though the firmwares are 4.4.2, morale . Flash only your specific carrier firmware and all this craziness would stop, my 2 cents
Sent on my Lenoto A2109 tablet
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It certainly seems Motorola has changed the game with 4.4.2, flashing other carriers firmware at this time seems quite risky. As you said I wouldn't recommend it right now until more is known and all full flash images of 4.4.2 are released.
Steve-x said:
It certainly seems Motorola has changed the game with 4.4.2, flashing other carriers firmware at this time seems quite risky. As you said I wouldn't recommend it right now until more is known and all full flash images of 4.4.2 are released.
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Someone should start a thread with all info and have it stickied, getting stupid here, miss info, assuming have a unlocked boot loader will prevent hard bricks.
Sent on my Lenoto A2109 tablet
flashallthetime said:
Boot loaders are number differently that's why everyone who has flash, or just about everyone who has flashed a new firmware has had issue evedn though the firmwares are 4.4.2, morale . Flash only your specific carrier firmware and all this craziness would stop, my 2 cents
Sent on my Lenoto A2109 tablet
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OP's issue was that he wanted to downgrade to 4.2 -- not that he was trying to change the carrier version of the 4.4.2 bootloader. Are there any threads about someone having an issue trying to flash a different carrier's version of 4.4.2?
piccit said:
OP's issue was that he wanted to downgrade to 4.2 -- not that he was trying to change the carrier version of the 4.4.2 bootloader. Are there any threads about someone having an issue trying to flash a different carrier's version of 4.4.2?
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Threads no but multiple threads about issues, stay away from flashing another carriers 4.4.2 firmware at this point in time, I'm trying to get boot loader numbers for all carrier firmware , so far all north american and south american boot loaders are the same but T-Mobile and AT&T have yet to be released, European boot loaders are not yet posted
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Every issue that I've read about is from people trying to downgrade. I haven't seen anyone have an issue about trying to side-grade
piccit said:
Every issue that I've read about is from people trying to downgrade. I haven't seen anyone have an issue about trying to side-grade
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Boot loaders numbers are different
Sent on my Gummy running Lenoto X
That's the risk of being impatient and flashing things in a hurry when they drop....that weren't made for our particular phone.
Remember ...good things come to those who wait.......and bad things for those who are too impatient.
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Just find the Brazilian full 4.4.2 file and rsdlite it or mfastboot flash. I believe it was floating around somewhere.
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[ANSWERED] [Q] Revert from 4.4.2 to 4.4 on Unlocked Bootloader xt1058

So, I did some digging around here, and I am more confused than ever. Here is my quick question (hopefully)
I have an bootloader unlocked xt1058 (ATT branded). I ran a nandroid to flash a new rom, only to discover when i went to restore a nandroid, the system folder did not back up, therefore I do not have a /system folder backup of stock ATT 4.4.2.
What I want to know is: Can I fastboot flash ATT's 4.4 system file only (i know bootloader is not compatable), then take the 4.4.2 OTA? Or will this hard brick my phone?
If i searched the forums correctly, it addresses if your bootloader is locked, but not unlocked.
I am running an AOSP now, so i know my way around fastboot and adb.
Any assistance would be helpful, and a flashable zip of stock ATT 4.4.2 would kick a**
Thanks for the help!
I'm not sure exactly how, cause I never have, or would downgrade......but just be sure you find out exactly how to do it. An unlocked boot loader will not protect you from a brick if something is done wrong. In other words....there are ways to brick for sure....locked or unlocked.
To me its a risky endeavor no matter what the case. Mistakes happen.....and in the case of downgrading from 4.4.2....mistakes can cost you a phone. ?
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kj2112 said:
I'm not sure exactly how, cause I never have, or would downgrade......but just be sure you find out exactly how to do it. An unlocked boot loader will not protect you from a brick if something is done wrong. In other words....there are ways to brick for sure....locked or unlocked.
To me its a risky endeavor no matter what the case. Mistakes happen.....and in the case of downgrading from 4.4.2....mistakes can cost you a phone. ?
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Yep! Hence the question. I guess the real question is...with an unlocked bootloader, can i flash System and Recovery (Android 4.4), while on Bootloader (Android 4.4.2)
would the safest thing to do to use RSD and flash (which will stop if there is a security issue)?
I'd just wait for the flash able 4.4.2 files.
Why do you want 4.4 anyway? There's not much difference.... Except a few negatives.
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cpetersen2791 said:
What I want to know is: Can I fastboot flash ATT's 4.4 system file only (i know bootloader is not compatable), then take the 4.4.2 OTA? Or will this hard brick my phone?
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Yes this will brick your phone. If you are on 4.4.2, and downgrade only parts (say system.img), you'll have a version and security mismatch, including the bootloader and GPT.BIN. If you take an OTA in that state you will brick. (at least that is what many of the users who have bricked have done according to the threads I've read... I haven't actually done it first hand as I don't want to deal with a brick).
cpetersen2791 said:
If i searched the forums correctly, it addresses if your bootloader is locked, but not unlocked.
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This applies for locked and unlocked bootloaders.
cpetersen2791 said:
Any assistance would be helpful, and a flashable zip of stock ATT 4.4.2 would kick a**
Thanks for the help!
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As soon as the SBF for ATT 4.4.2 leaks out, I'm sure it will be available on -> http://sbf.droid-developers.org/phone.php?device=0
kj2112 said:
I'd just wait for the flash able 4.4.2 files.
Why do you want 4.4 anyway? There's not much difference.... Except a few negatives.
Sent from my N5, N7, Moto X, G Tab 3 or S2.....
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when i ran a "stock" nandroid to test AOSP roms, i failed to back up my system folder, therefore I don't have a Stock ATT OS. I know 4.4.2 was out, but only as OTA, but complete 4.4 was available.
Thanks for all the assistance, i'll wait for the 4.4.2 SBF.

[Q] Go from 4.2.2 to 4.4.2 Unlocked, rooted, twrp

I have new Verizon Moto X Dev Edition. Messed up. Thought it was already on 4.4.2. Not, it's on 4.2.2. Unlocked bootloader and installed twrp and rooted. Wanting to update it to 4.4.2. Thinking from reading that I need to get back to stock recovery for OTA update if that is possible over wifi since phone is not activated yet. Can't find 4.2.2 stock recovery and not sure if that is what I need to do anyway. Is that what I need to do and/or is there a better way? Thanks
dukeoid said:
I have new Verizon Moto X Dev Edition. Messed up. Thought it was already on 4.4.2. Not, it's on 4.2.2. Unlocked bootloader and installed twrp and rooted. Wanting to update it to 4.4.2. Thinking from reading that I need to get back to stock recovery for OTA update if that is possible over wifi since phone is not activated yet. Can't find 4.2.2 stock recovery and not sure if that is what I need to do anyway. Is that what I need to do and/or is there a better way? Thanks
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Well I too have a Dev Edition but is SIM-Unlocked so it isn't Verizon.
If all you want to do is update, you could install Custom ROM although you will lose Motorola's Active Display, Always Listening etc...
If you want complete stock and have to reflash TWRP and root your phone, you will need to flash the stock firmware using fastboot or a utility.
Finally found 4.2.2 . When trying RSD fail at gpt bin, also fails there with manual flashing. Any ideas?
Edit...Finally got it. Different version of 4.2.2 did it.
Alecegonce101 said:
Well I too have a Dev Edition but is SIM-Unlocked so it isn't Verizon.
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Um, all VZW Moto Xs are SIM-unlocked.
dukeoid said:
Finally found 4.2.2 . When trying RSD fail at gpt bin, also fails there with manual flashing. Any ideas?
Edit...Finally got it. Different version of 4.2.2 did it.
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I hope it wasn't the pre-camera 4.2.2....or you might be in a tough spot now.... Risking a brick. ?
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Unless the first firmware was also pre camera... Then you're OK.
dukeoid said:
I have new Verizon Moto X Dev Edition. Messed up. Thought it was already on 4.4.2. Not, it's on 4.2.2. Unlocked bootloader and installed twrp and rooted. Wanting to update it to 4.4.2. Thinking from reading that I need to get back to stock recovery for OTA update if that is possible over wifi since phone is not activated yet. Can't find 4.2.2 stock recovery and not sure if that is what I need to do anyway. Is that what I need to do and/or is there a better way? Thanks
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dukeoid said:
Finally found 4.2.2 . When trying RSD fail at gpt bin, also fails there with manual flashing. Any ideas?
Edit...Finally got it. Different version of 4.2.2 did it.
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Taking OTA's is incremental, so if you are the initial shipping 4.2.2 you need to take the first 4.2.2 w/camera OTA, then the 4.4 OTA, then the 4.4.2 OTA... a real time waster and pain in the rear.
Best way... Grab the SBF for the version you want to be on, and flash it... i.e. you mention going to 4.4.2, so... grab the 4.4.2 SBF and flash it.
Since you have a Dev Edition, why not just go to 4.4.4? it has a few bug fixes, and is stable. For me and many others its no worse than 4.4.2 as far as performance and battery.
Once you arrive on the ROM you want, you can flash TWRP and root.
KidJoe said:
Best way... Grab the SBF for the version you want to be on, and flash it... i.e. you mention going to 4.4.2, so... grab the 4.4.2 SBF and flash it.
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OTA'ed to 4.4.2. But for future reference you can skip versions and SBF to the one you want??
dukeoid said:
OTA'ed to 4.4.2. But for future reference you can skip versions and SBF to the one you want??
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Yup! ?
As long as it's not a lower version.
dukeoid said:
OTA'ed to 4.4.2. But for future reference you can skip versions and SBF to the one you want??
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OTA = Incremental. Only patches the changed/updated parts.
SBF/FXZ = "all inclusive" or "image files".. and overwrites entire partitions/parts.
So yes. You can just flash the newer SBF file. (As @Darth said... as long as the SBF you are flashing is NEWER than the version on your phone... i.e. NEVER DOWNGRADE)

[Q] How to update from 4.4.2 to 5.1?

I posted this on reddit before the update was out but didn't get much info. Hopefully I find better luck here.
So I bought a Moto X 2013 in January. It was fairly new. The person I bought it from had unlocked the bootloader, flashed TWRP and rooted the phone.
Later I noticed the model number on the back of the phone is XT1049, ( Republic Wireless version) but the actual version running on the phone is XT1053 (T-mobile version). Also noticed that MotorolaOTA is disabled. The phone is also SIM-unlocked because I use a GSM SIM with it.
What I want to find out is how exactly to go about updating to 5.1?
I keep reading that flashing another carrier's firmware could brick you device. In this case, will flashing the xt1053 stock firmware on a phone that is originally xt1049 brick my phone?
Do I download and flash the XT1053 ota zip ? Do I disable MotorolaOTA?
I have X-posed installed as well. I would like o know how to disable that completely too .
So what's the safest way for me to upgrade from 4.4.2 to 5.1?
Thanks
kwvme said:
I posted this on reddit before the update was out but didn't get much info. Hopefully I find better luck here.
So I bought a Moto X 2013 in January. It was fairly new. The person I bought it from had unlocked the bootloader, flashed TWRP and rooted the phone.
Later I noticed the model number on the back of the phone is XT1049, ( Republic Wireless version) but the actual version running on the phone is XT1053 (T-mobile version). Also noticed that MotorolaOTA is disabled. The phone is also SIM-unlocked because I use a GSM SIM with it.
What I want to find out is how exactly to go about updating to 5.1?
I keep reading that flashing another carrier's firmware could brick you device. In this case, will flashing the xt1053 stock firmware on a phone that is originally xt1049 brick my phone?
Do I download and flash the XT1053 ota zip ? Do I disable MotorolaOTA?
I have X-posed installed as well. I would like o know how to disable that completely too .
So what's the safest way for me to upgrade from 4.4.2 to 5.1?
Thanks
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Flash back to stock 4.4.2 then OTA to 4.4.4.
SR3TLAW said:
Flash back to stock 4.4.2 then OTA to 4.4.4.
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I've been asked not to OTA.
Apparently the guy "flashed the Retail US factory image and flashed the Republic Wireless/Sprint radio files for the modem to work"
Even if I were to do this, which stock firmware would I use, the XT1049 or the XT1053 one?
kwvme said:
I've been asked not to OTA.
Apparently the guy "flashed the Retail US factory image and flashed the Republic Wireless/Sprint radio files for the modem to work"
Even if I were to do this, which stock firmware would I use, the XT1049 or the XT1053 one?
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Because the OTA is based off the strings contained in the /system partition, it would get the Retail US OTA.
BUT If you have mixed up parts of modems and roms, DO NOT Take an OTA.
First it will likely fail the pre-flash validation checks (due to wrong parts being on there), next if for some reason it doesn't fail and proceeds with flashing, you'll end up with ALL parts of the Retail XT1053 rom on there.
Finally, since its an XT1049, the SIM UNLOCK hack was likely used, and I'm not sure if that would survive flashing. And its unknown at this time if it will survive upgrade to Lollipop.
KidJoe said:
Because the OTA is based off the strings contained in the /system partition, it would get the Retail US OTA.
BUT If you have mixed up parts of modems and roms, DO NOT Take an OTA.
First it will likely fail the pre-flash validation checks (due to wrong parts being on there), next if for some reason it doesn't fail and proceeds with flashing, you'll end up with ALL parts of the Retail XT1053 rom on there.
Finally, since its an XT1049, the SIM UNLOCK hack was likely used, and I'm not sure if that would survive flashing. And its unknown at this time if it will survive upgrade to Lollipop.
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So you're saying I'm stuck on 4.4.2?
I have attached a pic of my about phone section. The baseband version is different from other XT1053s.
Someone said I should be able to flash just the system partition without affecting anything else. How true is that? They also suggested flashing the RW 4.4.4 image and wait to OTA. But I was concerned about GSM usability with that.
Finally, it would seem my best option would be to flash the TWRP xt1053 backup, but the reports of bugs is putting me off.
I'd really like to get lollipop and remain using the xt1053 software if I can. Thanks
kwvme said:
So you're saying I'm stuck on 4.4.2?
I have attached a pic of my about phone section. The baseband version is different from other XT1053s.
Someone said I should be able to flash just the system partition without affecting anything else. How true is that? They also suggested flashing the RW 4.4.4 image and wait to OTA. But I was concerned about GSM usability with that.
Finally, it would seem my best option would be to flash the TWRP xt1053 backup, but the reports of bugs is putting me off.
I'd really like to get lollipop and remain using the xt1053 software if I can. Thanks
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Because you have an XT1049 model and are trying to use XT1053 firmware it gets complicated. Also, the XT1049 hardware was SIM/Carrier locked, and there was a hack to unlock it (it was the only way to sim unlock it). I don't know if that SIM unlock hack survives flashing different versions, etc. So I really don't want to advise you and have you get SIM locked.
If the baseband is different than other XT1053's its possible that you are runing a mix of XT1049 radios/modems with other parts of the XT1053 rom. So taking an upgrade in this state is risky. It could fail or even brick your phone. A mix like that is probably why the Moto OTA updater was disabled/frozen.
I personally haven't had much luck mixing parts from roms for two different phones, and I usually don't advise it due to potential side effects, as well as potential issues when trying to flash back to the stock rom for your model/carrier.
As for flashing just the /System partition, that is pretty much what restoring the lollipop backups are doing. At that point, /SYSTEM doesn't match the partition table, bootloader, trusted zone, and other components which could also cause other bugs while running (speaker phone bug reported by those using the TWRP lollipop back apparently doesn't exist on those that took the full update).
My advise... stay put.
If you really want to upgrade... WAIT. First ask in the thread talking about the Sprint/RW SIM Unlock Crack if there are any conditions on upgrading after you SIM unlock. I would also ask about any risks or impacts from flashing back to STOCK RW ROM in that thread, or using another carrier's rom. Finally, I'd wait on flashing anything until BOTH Republic Wireless and XT1053 5.1 SBF files are available... and then proceed. You may need to flash RW 5.1, then flash /system from XT1053's 5.1 rom. BUT i'm not 100% sure it will work, and wont SIM unlock you, so I'm not saying you'll be successful (because I don't know)

[Q] Help downgrade to offical verizon dev from lollipop

Hey, i got the verizon dev edition with unlocked boktloader and root device i flash xt1052 rom to get the ota to 5.1
And aftet i flashed the baseband of 4.4.4 xt1060 to get my network work.
But now i want to get back to 4.4.4 of the verizon dev edition and i download tgz fille from the motorola site
And i wanted to flash it on rsd lite but i didnt have the xml fille there? So i dont know what to do now?
Ty for help
harel013 said:
Hey, i got the verizon dev edition with unlocked boktloader and root device i flash xt1052 rom to get the ota to 5.1
And aftet i flashed the baseband of 4.4.4 xt1060 to get my network work.
But now i want to get back to 4.4.4 of the verizon dev edition and i download tgz fille from the motorola site
And i wanted to flash it on rsd lite but i didnt have the xml fille there? So i dont know what to do now?
Ty for help
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there is a high risk of bricking your device while downgrading http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/info-warning-risks-downgrading-impacts-t3058202
It's highly risky to downgrade but if you persist just make sure your bootloader and partition table is not the one that got upgtaded with the latest 5.1 rom. If it is the latest then don't do it.
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You can downgrade completely to 4.4.4.
But don't take OTA, your phone will brick.
The safest way in my opinion is (if you want to downgrade);
- Flash entire official firmware of XT1060 to your phone.
- DON'T TAKE OTA
- Wait for full firmware of XT1060(5.1)
- Flash full firmware of XT1060(5.1)
But if you want to play with 5.1, you can try this;
In my case, I have XT1056, and I wanted to play around with 5.1, so I converted from XT1056(4.4.4) to XT1053(4.4.4), then took OTA to XT1053 (5.1).
After that I tried AOSP but my bluetooth headset had a problem with phone function, then I decided to go back to official firmware again.
Since there is no Lollipop image for XT1053 or XT1056 now, I had to flash another variants like XT1052 and XT1058, but I got no signal.
I had to downgrade to XT1056(4.4.4) and using it for a day. After that I found out that file size of fsg.mbn differ by variants, then I downloaded XT1053(5.1 OTA) to get it.
I mixed up an entire XT1052(5.1 retail EN) with fsg.mbn from XT1053(5.1 OTA) and flashed them manually. Now my XT1056 works very well (with Xposed framework).
Keep in mind that YOU DO THIS ON YOUR OWN RISK.
ong14 said:
You can downgrade completely to 4.4.4.
But don't take OTA, your phone will brick.
The safest way in my opinion is (if you want to downgrade);
- Flash entire official firmware of XT1060 to your phone.
- DON'T TAKE OTA
- Wait for full firmware of XT1060(5.1)
- Flash full firmware of XT1060(5.1)
But if you want to play with 5.1, you can try this;
In my case, I have XT1056, and I wanted to play around with 5.1, so I converted from XT1056(4.4.4) to XT1053(4.4.4), then took OTA to XT1053 (5.1).
After that I tried AOSP but my bluetooth headset had a problem with phone function, then I decided to go back to official firmware again.
Since there is no Lollipop image for XT1053 or XT1056 now, I had to flash another variants like XT1052 and XT1058, but I got no signal.
I had to downgrade to XT1056(4.4.4) and using it for a day. After that I found out that file size of fsg.mbn differ by variants, then I downloaded XT1053(5.1 OTA) to get it.
I mixed up an entire XT1052(5.1 retail EN) with fsg.mbn from XT1053(5.1 OTA) and flashed them manually. Now my XT1056 works very well (with Xposed framework).
Keep in mind that YOU DO THIS ON YOUR OWN RISK.
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My situation is same with you. My phone is xt1056 sprint. I converted to xt1053, and got ota to 5.1. But I don't like stock 5.1,there are some bug with graphic... I flashed and used customs Rom CM, PA,Carbon...some day. But now, I want to come back 4.4.4. Can you guide me more details?
I think if you flash complete 4.4.4 from 5.1, phone will bricked, because bootloader can not downgrade as someone said in high risk ...topic. Maybe you can flash 4.4.4 fw with edit xml to NOT flash motoboot and gpt....
Right ?
And last question, if there is a method to flash back 4.4.4, can I flash 4.4.4 xt1053 ? I don't want my phone have many bloatware sprint xt1056.
md07 said:
My situation is same with you. My phone is xt1056 sprint. I converted to xt1053, and got ota to 5.1. But I don't like stock 5.1,there are some bug with graphic... I flashed and used customs Rom CM, PA,Carbon...some day. But now, I want to come back 4.4.4. Can you guide me more details?
I think if you flash complete 4.4.4 from 5.1, phone will bricked, because bootloader can not downgrade as someone said in high risk ...topic. Maybe you can flash 4.4.4 fw with edit xml to NOT flash motoboot and gpt....
Right ?
And last question, if there is a method to flash back 4.4.4, can I flash 4.4.4 xt1053 ? I don't want my phone have many bloatware sprint xt1056.
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You can flash back to 4.4.4 of XT1053 or XT1056 as you prefer, I think their radio are compatible.
But when 5.1 comes out, DON'T TAKE OTA. You have to wait for a full firmware to upgrade your phone.
I always use a manual flash method, so I don't have to edit an xml file.
When you downgrades, you will see a warning message, just ignore them.
ong14 said:
You can flash back to 4.4.4 of XT1053 or XT1056 as you prefer, I think their radio are compatible.
But when 5.1 comes out, DON'T TAKE OTA. You have to wait for a full firmware to upgrade your phone.
I always use a manual flash method, so I don't have to edit an xml file.
When you downgrades, you will see a warning message, just ignore them.
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Do you use fastening to flash fw? And you flash all part inside fw? Include motorboat and got... ? After flash, do you make unlock network again ?
I used mfastboot to flash all CGs to my phone. But you may try to skip some CGs like KidJoe said.
Every time when you return to stock or do a hard reset, you have to do the SIM-unlock process again.
harel013 said:
Hey, i got the verizon dev edition with unlocked boktloader and root device i flash xt1052 rom to get the ota to 5.1
And aftet i flashed the baseband of 4.4.4 xt1060 to get my network work.
But now i want to get back to 4.4.4 of the verizon dev edition and i download tgz fille from the motorola site
And i wanted to flash it on rsd lite but i didnt have the xml fille there? So i dont know what to do now?
Ty for help
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Moto is no longer including the XML to flash via RSDLite, but you could make your own if needed... instead they include a BATCH file which calls a copy of Moto's fastboot to flash it.
That being said... I WARN YOU!!! You will risk bricking your phone if you attempt to downgrade. While there is a slight chance the phone will not brick, we have enough who have bricked to say it is not safe!!
Some will say... "its ok, just skip motoboot.img and gpt.bin when flashing" that isn't safe either. If you later get prompted for and take an OTA update you'll again likely brick. Further when motoboot.img and GPT.BIN are missmatched from the rest of a STOCK Moto rom we've seen "bugs" or "issues" of things no working, like speaker phone, Settings -> Security menu, etc which are not a problem when all parts of your phone are consistent.
You're best bet... wait until a full 5.1 SBF for the Verizon XT1060 is either posted to Moto's web site of Dev Edition Images, or wait until a copy leaks... however, that too many also fail *IF* the GPT.BIN and components of motoboot.img are newer or different in the build you are running compared to what is made available as the XT1060 5.1 SBF.
KidJoe said:
Moto is no longer including the XML to flash via RSDLite, but you could make your own if needed... instead they include a BATCH file which calls a copy of Moto's fastboot to flash it.
That being said... I WARN YOU!!! You will risk bricking your phone if you attempt to downgrade. While there is a slight chance the phone will not brick, we have enough who have bricked to say it is not safe!!
Some will say... "its ok, just skip motoboot.img and gpt.bin when flashing" that isn't safe either. If you later get prompted for and take an OTA update you'll again likely brick. Further when motoboot.img and GPT.BIN are missmatched from the rest of a STOCK Moto rom we've seen "bugs" or "issues" of things no working, like speaker phone, Settings -> Security menu, etc which are not a problem when all parts of your phone are consistent.
You're best bet... wait until a full 5.1 SBF for the Verizon XT1060 is either posted to Moto's web site of Dev Edition Images, or wait until a copy leaks... however, that too many also fail *IF* the GPT.BIN and components of motoboot.img are newer or different in the build you are running compared to what is made available as the XT1060 5.1 SBF.
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Yea i think i will wait for the full sbf 5.1 for verizon, i dont want to take the chance.
Thank you all for your help when the 5.1 update will come to the verizon you think?

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