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Does anyone have wifi tethering working (without paying the $30 to Verizon)

Does anyone have wifi tethering working without paying the $30 to Verizon? The problem seems to be whether the Bionic is seen as an ad-hoc network or as an AP. My Xoom (wifi only) won't talk to the Bionic as an adhoc network.
Any ideas?

i have bluetooth tethering working. from the stock bluetooth adapter on the phone.

qsg001 said:
Does anyone have wifi tethering working without paying the $30 to Verizon? The problem seems to be whether the Bionic is seen as an ad-hoc network or as an AP. My Xoom (wifi only) won't talk to the Bionic as an adhoc network.
Any ideas?
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Are you seriously posting another thread on this?? The next person to ask this should be auto banned from XDA. USE THE SEARCH FUNCTION!

needshelp101 said:
i have bluetooth tethering working. from the stock bluetooth adapter on the phone.
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Are you sure that it is really work without modifications?

Yes I am positive. I tethered my galaxy tab to my bionic. I just searched for bluetooth devices, paired and that was it. Keep in mind though its not super fast, but I was getting 1 or so mb download speed with 2 bars and 3g cutting out at my house. Its a dead zone where I live.
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needshelp101 said:
Yes I am positive. I tethered my galaxy tab to my bionic.
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Did you check CPU usage at tethering? I am sure that it use 100% of one CPU (50% of dual CPU) because dnsmasq have a bug.

No that I didn't check. I would assume it would use the same as the wifi tether app does on other phones. I'll run it for a while to get a benchmark for you.
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Actually I just checked. I tethered for about a half hour before and Bluetooth is up to 11%. Its not showing how many cores are being used. But that's not a bad percentage
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needshelp101 said:
No that I didn't check. I would assume it would use the same as the wifi tether app does on other phones.
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It is wrong. Bluetooth PAN use absolutely different way. It has to use much less energy because the do not use the WiFi AP. And I guess that Bluetooth tethering is not detectable yet.
I use OS monitor (https://market.android.com/details?id=com.eolwral.osmonitor&feature=search_result) to check CPU usage. Just connect your tablet and check CPU usage in OS monitor. It would show about 50% of CPU usage by System process.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1271474

Actually I just checked. I tethered for about a half hour before and Bluetooth is up to 11%. Its not showing how many cores are being used. But that's not a bad percentage
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needshelp101 said:
Actually I just checked. I tethered for about a half hour before and Bluetooth is up to 11%.
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Is your battery drain 11% for half hour? Or you look at bluetooth usage in battery manager? You will never see this usage as bluetooth usage because it used by system process. Check it in OS monitor or ...just touch you phone...I guess that it should be hot...very hot.

I checked it under battery manager. Other than tethering Bluetooth was never on. 11% was the CPU drain under Bluetooth. I have an otter box case on so if there was heat I wouldn't feel it for a while. I just don't like taking the case off, its a pain in the ass
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needshelp101 said:
I checked it under battery manager. Other than tethering Bluetooth was never on. 11% was the CPU drain under Bluetooth.
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It is not bluetooth CPU usage. DNSMASQ is system process....not bluetooth. But it started on Bluetooth PAN connection as DHCP server. And I am not sure that you can see System usage in battery manager. What is the real battery drain in half hour?

I downloaded os manager. I ran a few sites while connected and then checked. System is at 24% os manager is at 30%. Seems to be running the cpu at a relative low range or is it just me?
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needshelp101 said:
I downloaded os manager. I ran a few sites while connected and then checked. System is at 24% os manager is at 30%.
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30% for os manager is too much but may be you need to wait some time to stabilize it. But any way 30+24=54. It mean that most time both applications work on same CPU and use it at 100%. Without Bluetooth tethering your system usage should be < 1%

This is after running for 45 min. phone still doesn't feel warm. I know when I tethered with my incredible it got up to 121° f and would reboot very often. does this picture help you any?
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needshelp101 said:
This is after running for 45 min. phone still doesn't feel warm. I know when I tethered with my incredible it got up to 121° f and would reboot very often. does this picture help you any?
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What type of tethering you use on incredible? Wifi?

yes, but i was using battery manager to check the temps not the built in one in wifi tether.

here is a bigger picture i had to resize it

needshelp101 said:
yes, but i was using battery manager to check the temps not the built in one in wifi tether.
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WiFi tethering use lot of power because WiFi AP mode required it. Bluetooth use a little power but CPU usage is too high because DNSMASQ has a bug. Try to replace dnsmasq to fixed version and you will see the difference.

Green Power drains battery

Hey everyone,
after flashing thousands of kernels and ROMs I finally found out what drains my battery: It's Green Power (I even bought premium...)!
This app is supposed to SAVE battery via toggling data on and off like Juice Defender but somehow it makes my CPU run mad... Has anyone else experienced this so far? I'm really upset cuz I paid money for this crappy app but I'm also glad that I found eventually out the cause of draining
Cheers!

pfff.. discovery... GreenPiss is draining my wallet, so it is logic that GreenPower will drain your battery...

I use green power premium too, but so far I haven't any problem with battery drain.
Why you think that it's the cause?

Brutalibus said:
I use green power premium too, but so far I haven't any problem with battery drain.
Why you think that it's the cause?
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Well since I uninstalled it, my battery life has increased a lot! That's why

Check battery use from settings,there you can see if it causes the battery drain
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BlueFlame4 said:
Well since I uninstalled it, my battery life has increased a lot! That's why
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Well... so now ur data connection is always on or off?
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Brutalibus said:
Well... so now ur data connection is always on or off?
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Switched to Juice Defender, so it's same as before.

Delete all these stupid apps and allow phone for a great deep sleep.
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Battery burning super fast?

Whilst I have been having the screen on, it shouldn't be burning this fast and it certainly didn't use to. 23 minutes on battery and 20% burned?

Did you install a new rom or new kernel? You can install an app like BetterBatteryStats to check out what might be causing this battery drain.

Vrayhem said:
Did you install a new rom or new kernel? You can install an app like BetterBatteryStats to check out what might be causing this battery drain.
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Stock ROM 4.0.4 and have never rooted or flashed anything on before. It is completely stock and unaltered in every way. All I've done is install apps. It just seems to have been a little bad recently. I have BetterBatteryStats on, but the it isn't wakelocks. As I said, I've got the screen on consistently so the phone will always be awake. It is just that 20% in that amount of time seems really high, even for constant use, and I swear it didn't use to be that bad. I've installed Juice Defender because it tends to be good in how it managers network and WiFi. So far, things seem to be stabilising. But, I still want to know what can cause such sharp drainage...

Do you have a lot of apps running in the background? This is most likely the cause. Brightness is a big issue also. Flash a kernal!
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ross231 said:
Brightness is a big issue also. Flash a kernal!
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Check that you have Auto-brightness enabled. Also, I found that certain apps can drain battery big time. I agree with checking via a battery stats program. Maybe an APP is running in the background causing the cpu to stay at max speed?

A-mak said:
Check that you have Auto-brightness enabled. Also, I found that certain apps can drain battery big time. I agree with checking via a battery stats program. Maybe an APP is running in the background causing the cpu to stay at max speed?
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Totally agree. Before I root my Note to delete some unuse apps from stock 4.0.4, the battery drains very fast. The most reason is some apps running in the background.

Did you change your sim recently? Sometimes the culprit is sim card.
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Not fixes, but suggestions:
- An app like Green Power will stop data usage when screen off
- As others said, look into your display. My favourite app is Display Brightness as it adds an invisible slider on your screen
- For some reason, Chrome in the last week began to EAT my phone. I uninstalled it and I'm back to a blessed 1% an hour drain

check this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1878828
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Hey bazz, good to see you here.
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jonpaslim said:
Hey bazz, good to see you here.
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Hey bro, that sim card is a good one, am adding that to my knowledge base
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baz77 said:
check this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1878828
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Thanks for your link, really helpful for me:good:

You may have to check your battery. Will it be hot when you are using it? Look at your battery, does it look "fat"? It happened once to me before, after changing a new battery. It's fine now. It was caused by overcharging it during the night.

I experienced it on my previous phone, now im going to prove it again in my note because i changed my sim recently and now i cannot achieved the 5 hrs i had before that my original sim card, best phone can do now is 3.5 hrs. I try to contact my provider if they can restore my previous sim card and see what will happen, its just a suspect.
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knightrazor said:
You may have to check your battery. Will it be hot when you are using it? Look at your battery, does it look "fat"? It happened once to me before, after changing a new battery. It's fine now. It was caused by overcharging it during the night.
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how can it be over charging. Doesnt it has built in function that cut-off power when charging complete. all modern chargers have that..
really would like to know cause i always charge the phone before going to sleep..

mistajoe83 said:
how can it be over charging. Doesnt it has built in function that cut-off power when charging complete. all modern chargers have that..
really would like to know cause i always charge the phone before going to sleep..
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u r right..all modern chargers hv that..so, it will cut off the power when charging is complete..even I do put my Note for charging & go to sleep
So, dont worry..put your charger for charging & u can confidently go to sleep :good:

If you have network location checked and or GPS in /setting/location and security.
that's your suck battery problem.
Network location awake the phone constantly in accord with weather widget and lot apps in background that use this feature.
Cia

[Q] Phone is always awake (battery drain overnight)

So I got my One two days ago and installed some apps, running on stock 4.1.2.
According to the system monitor my phone is ALWAYS AWAKE, even when I turn it off and only plug in the charger.
How can I solve it, how can I find what app is keeping my phone awake? I am losing like 50% battery overnight while in airplane mode
Thanks, BBLN.

It's difficoult found the app.
So try with an hard reset or see in dev settigs if there is the voice selected

Guich said:
It's difficoult found the app.
So try with an hard reset or see in dev settigs if there is the voice selected
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That's my first android phone, what do I press for hard reset? (Sorry for being newb )

Install better battery stats this will tell u what is causing ur drain :thumbup:
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Do you meant its SCREEN which draining your battery? Its draining mine almost 80%..though its my 2nd battery from Google.
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H4CK_H0PP3R said:
Do you meant its SCREEN which draining your battery? Its draining mine almost 80%..though its my 2nd battery from Google.
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Nope, it's like my phone is draining while being idle (On battery usage: Phone Idle - 50%).
I closed some running services, seems like now he is finally really idle.

battery issue maybe :/ ?

so in the first photo i was using gsm only network mode and in the second i was using wcdma only
the difference is shocking isn't ?
btw in the first one i was asleep for about 9 hours

Zewarxx said:
so in the first photo i was using gsm only network mode and in the second i was using wcdma only
the difference is shocking isn't ?
btw in the first one i was asleep for about 9 hours
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Did you leave your phone with WCDMA / 3G enabled and screen-off?
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Destroyedbeauty said:
Did you leave your phone with WCDMA / 3G enabled and screen-off?
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yes data was working all the time and stamina was enabled

Zewarxx said:
yes data was working all the time and stamina was enabled
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Can be the MSM_HSIC_HOST kernel wakelock that is causing your battery drain..

im using 3g all the time and i dont have problems i think u were using your phone differently so you cant compare battery life

There is some strange issue with 4.3 firmware. I've incredible battery drain too.
In early versions i get full one day usege with 3g only network and 3 exchange mail account on push mail settings. Now, nearly 6 hr, and battery low alert.
Realized fast dormacy, disabled for my network, did not solved. Totally uninstalled fast dormacy stiil same. Exchange servise drains all the time.
There is no much wake lock in battery log, there is no special application that drains, but still, like phone does not get in deep sleep state. I dont have and horizontal line in battery stats.
Most of people says, battery is better then before, but most of them do not use phone like me.
Seriously, i consider to revert back 4.2.2
Ps, i even tried to factory default. That was pain in my a.s. because of installing applications and made settings. Still i dont have proper solution.
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Destroyedbeauty said:
Can be the MSM_HSIC_HOST kernel wakelock that is causing your battery drain..
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Ive the stock kernel :3 I don't have root yet

indycar said:
im using 3g all the time and i dont have problems i think u were using your phone differently so you cant compare battery life
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i used the same apps :/ what's up, facebook, instgram, flyne, and the camera app

eryen said:
There is some strange issue with 4.3 firmware. I've incredible battery drain too.
In early versions i get full one day usege with 3g only network and 3 exchange mail account on push mail settings. Now, nearly 6 hr, and battery low alert.
Realized fast dormacy, disabled for my network, did not solved. Totally uninstalled fast dormacy stiil same. Exchange servise drains all the time.
There is no much wake lock in battery log, there is no special application that drains, but still, like phone does not get in deep sleep state. I dont have and horizontal line in battery stats.
Most of people says, battery is better then before, but most of them do not use phone like me.
Seriously, i consider to revert back 4.2.2
Ps, i even tried to factory default. That was pain in my a.s. because of installing applications and made settings. Still i dont have proper solution.
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the only problem i'm having is while i'm using internet otherwise the battery live goes on and on
i guess the 3g network coverage suck in my area but 2g is very slow when it comes to browsing, it's fine for whatsapp but whenever i want to do something else i suffer

Zewarxx said:
Ive the stock kernel :3 I don't have root yet
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Stock kernel is so simple developed and doesn't have any real power saving functions at all. Just like Sony throwed some kernel coding together and didn't really test it at all on anything else than stability..
My opinion is this.. Using stock / Advanced stock kernel is like demanding battery issues for free.
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Destroyedbeauty said:
Stock kernel is so simple developed and doesn't have any real power saving functions at all. Just like Sony throwed some kernel coding together and didn't really test it at all on anything else than stability..
My opinion is this.. Using stock / Advanced stock kernel is like demanding battery issues for free.
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can you help me with rooting and installing a new kernel ? ive 4.3 as i said and i don't know the status of my boot-loader either

Well I've noticed that after a rather short amount of time, a lot of ram is being used and the battery drain is enormous!
Never had so heavy battery issues, even.with different kernels and Roms.
Now.completely on stock and wow.. @ work.for 12 hours, no usage at all, battery dropped from 100% to 36% and energy options telling me that ANDROID OS used 59% THE WHOLE TIME
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Zewarxx said:
can you help me with rooting and installing a new kernel ? ive 4.3 as i said and i don't know the status of my boot-loader either
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If you don't know your status of bootloader, most likely it's locked. You can unlock it if your bootloader unlock is allowed. And there's no custom kernel for 4.3 yet.
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Zewarxx said:
can you help me with rooting and installing a new kernel ? ive 4.3 as i said and i don't know the status of my boot-loader either
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joejoe23 said:
If you don't know your status of bootloader, most likely it's locked. You can unlock it if your bootloader unlock is allowed. And there's no custom kernel for 4.3 yet.
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Better go back to 4.2.2 until Sony got time to fix their disaster of 4.3 release!

Destroyedbeauty said:
Better go back to 4.2.2 until Sony got time to fix their disaster of 4.3 release!
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4.3 is fine for me. Existenz v5 is even finer.
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slim207rc said:
Well I've noticed that after a rather short amount of time, a lot of ram is being used and the battery drain is enormous!
Never had so heavy battery issues, even.with different kernels and Roms.
Now.completely on stock and wow.. @ work.for 12 hours, no usage at all, battery dropped from 100% to 36% and energy options telling me that ANDROID OS used 59% THE WHOLE TIME
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yeah i'm with you on the ram issue also :/ most of the time 1.5 gb is used :3 but the charge is a bit more than that after 8 hours of no usage i lost about 20 % and the internet was off

joejoe23 said:
If you don't know your status of bootloader, most likely it's locked. You can unlock it if your bootloader unlock is allowed. And there's no custom kernel for 4.3 yet.
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Destroyedbeauty said:
Better go back to 4.2.2 until Sony got time to fix their disaster of 4.3 release!
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i'm not really having any troubles now since i'm back on the 2g network the battary last yester day for 15 and 6 m and still have 20 and the screen took 30% of it

joejoe23 said:
4.3 is fine for me. Existenz v5 is even finer.
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(Y) its really fine as well for me :good:

joejoe23 said:
4.3 is fine for me. Existenz v5 is even finer.
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joejoe23 said:
If you don't know your status of bootloader, most likely it's locked. You can unlock it if your bootloader unlock is allowed. And there's no custom kernel for 4.3 yet.
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i just want to root it