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Whick Kindle Fire HD 7 I own?

I have very serious doubts on the information presented on the kindle fire hd.
I purchased this tablet (99€ ) (http://www.amazon.it/gp/product/B0083PWAWU/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A11IL2PNWYJU7H) and I do not know if this is the first, the second or maybe the third generation kindle fire hd?
I do not know if the roms in the forum (modding area) refer to my tablet and looking at the site of cyanogenmod.com I noticed that there are 2 versions of the kindle fire, otter and otter2, but nothing for kindle fire hd . To which I must refer to my tablet?
Thank you!
PS. I apologize for my English

If I had to take a guess it is a kindle fire hd 7” 2012 model, and BTW there are 4 code names outside of the stuff that came out this year, they are otter, otter2, Tate, and jem. The 7" HD is a Tate model. I'm only basing this on the fact it was labeled at 7" model, but you can see the front facing camera in the pic that the 2013 models don't have. The HD model's cyanogen mod aren't listed on their website because they aren't official yet, you have to learn the process for flashing ROMs on kindles here because it's not as straight forward as some devices like the first gen kindle, and the ROMs are also posted here at xda in the development section.
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xaifer said:
I have very serious doubts on the information presented on the kindle fire hd.
I purchased this tablet (99€ ) (http://www.amazon.it/gp/product/B0083PWAWU/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A11IL2PNWYJU7H) and I do not know if this is the first, the second or maybe the third generation kindle fire hd?
I do not know if the roms in the forum (modding area) refer to my tablet and looking at the site of cyanogenmod.com I noticed that there are 2 versions of the kindle fire, otter and otter2, but nothing for kindle fire hd . To which I must refer to my tablet?
Thank you!
PS. I apologize for my English
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I agree with stunts. Also, from the ad "Share your screen with the HDMI output Share your favorite photos and videos on your TV or other high definition screens via integrated HDMI port." The 2013 KFHD7 does not have and HDMI output. Pull down from the top > click more > click on device > now you can see the version you are using. 7.xxx is the Kindle Fire HD 7 2012 model

[Q] Need your opinions on Fire HD before I buy!

Hey kindle owners ! I need your advice and also opinions on the 7' Kindle fire HD...!
I am a student and basically I'm getting a tablet for reading and also for movies/music. Before I actually buy it, I need to know what I should expect from getting a Kindle for my daily use. There will be a lil of light gaming tho.
I've read that there's no USB OTG function for kindle. One of the cons because this tablet is suppose to last at least for 5 years. Paying about 200usd on my own as a student so it'll be a painful experience if I don't know what I should expect from this tablet.
All opinions and advice are much appreciated !

You would be alot happier with the Nexus 7 (2013) device. That device has alot more freedom. Custom ROM's, Recovery and all that other stuff that the Kindle Fire HD (2013) does not have because Amazon doesn't like us on a different ROM.

I just acquired my Kindle and I am using it for the same reason. It has limited internal storage but I use Copy (20Gb) and GDrive (15Gb) to backup online (for free of course) and move files from my computer, phone and Kindle.
Rooting wasn't hard at all since these fine folks put together some great tools to use. I am running CM11 and I have yet to find any issues whatsoever.
I have only been using it a few days but I can see this being a huge asset for school.
Regard,
FB

You can't get a brand new HD 2012 anymore. Only used. And used products are the worst. They could be selling you a stolen device or a half broken device.
Sent from my Kindle Fire HD 7 running PAC-man

wire55 said:
You can't get a brand new HD 2012 anymore. Only used. And used products are the worst. They could be selling you a stolen device or a half broken device.
Sent from my Kindle Fire HD 7 running PAC-man
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Hello. I'm getting myself the new Kindle Fire HD 7' . Don't see any reason why I should go for the older one.
FireBean said:
I just acquired my Kindle and I am using it for the same reason. It has limited internal storage but I use Copy (20Gb) and GDrive (15Gb) to backup online (for free of course) and move files from my computer, phone and Kindle.
Rooting wasn't hard at all since these fine folks put together some great tools to use. I am running CM11 and I have yet to find any issues whatsoever.
I have only been using it a few days but I can see this being a huge asset for school.
Regard,
FB
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One of the answers I've been praying to see. haha.. How is reading on the 7' tablet? Is it too small ? I'm afraid that I won't be able to read and need zoom in just to read a part of the page. ( especially magazines) Anyway thanks for replying! :good::good:
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You would be alot happier with the Nexus 7 (2013) device. That device has alot more freedom. Custom ROM's, Recovery and all that other stuff that the Kindle Fire HD (2013) does not have because Amazon doesn't like us on a different ROM.
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I would be happier with the Nexus 7 too, if I had the money to buy one :crying: . However I have been rooting my phone and I stick to one rom after that. I'm not really into development so yeah, more like daily use and some cool add-ons i can do to it . Thanks for replying !

Let's see reasons to buy older 2012 kindle, specs are about the same, it is flashable 2013 is not, we have recovery methods that work on the 2012, we don't on the 2013... 2012 has camera and mic, 2013 doesn't, 2012 has HDMI out, 2013 doesn't... In general the 2013 isn't that great, I think Google play store use on it is still not fully working too, I'll let other people confirm that though.
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stunts513 said:
Let's see reasons to buy older 2012 kindle, specs are about the same, it is flashable 2013 is not, we have recovery methods that work on the 2012, we don't on the 2013... 2012 has camera and mic, 2013 doesn't, 2012 has HDMI out, 2013 doesn't... In general the 2013 isn't that great, I think Google play store use on it is still not fully working too, I'll let other people confirm that though.
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This is why you get the 2012. You can get 2012 one for $129 2013 is $199
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One of the answers I've been praying to see. haha.. How is reading on the 7' tablet? Is it too small ? I'm afraid that I won't be able to read and need zoom in just to read a part of the page. ( especially magazines) Anyway thanks for replying! :good::good:
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I think its perfect for reading; not too big or small. If you do need to zoom its just a quick swipe.
I have the 2012 version and haven't had my hands on a 2013 to compare.
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stunts513 said:
Let's see reasons to buy older 2012 kindle, specs are about the same, it is flashable 2013 is not, we have recovery methods that work on the 2012, we don't on the 2013... 2012 has camera and mic, 2013 doesn't, 2012 has HDMI out, 2013 doesn't... In general the 2013 isn't that great, I think Google play store use on it is still not fully working too, I'll let other people confirm that though.
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Oh my . didn't notice that .... was too concentrated on the functions in the system and also purchases on amazon.... Thanks for the comparison ... Wouldn't have notice it without your help ! :good:

wire55 said:
This is why you get the 2012. You can get 2012 one for $129 2013 is $199
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Sadly, over in Malaysia, I'll have to get it via a person managing with suppliers . And they only carry the new Kindle Fire HD. Well that's just so darn disappointing for me. :crying:

Guys, I have asked for the 2012 version. As you guys have said, 2012 version is much more worth it right? What about the firmware + apps? The software can be converted into the CM 11 without any lags right? Thanks for the reply.... Hope I get this one soon to confirm my purchase !
Apparently , the older version of kindle will cost me 60 USD extra. That really sucks. But please do advise me on the apps and software. From what the seller said, apps and software could be hard for me to get as time pass by. But if I were to root + flash a new rom, that wouldn't be a problem right?

Correct, we have cm 11 ROMs running on it smoothly. The original amazon is on it was only ICS based, which I think was weird, seems like every time amazon releases a new device they don't have the current build of android on it, they have previous version on it. I mean I think even the hdx had 4.2.2 on it instead of 4.3, considering kitkat had just come out and its 4.4.
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I bought a 7" Kindle Fire HD last week when it was on sale for only 79€. I think it's the best purchase I made this year :laugh:

Help with Kindle Fire 7" (2nd Gen) Lockscreen/Launcher/Root

I got my gf a Kindle Fire HD 7". It only has a front camera which appears to be a 2nd gen according to the Amazon chart. I'm going through the forums here and it is just a mess.
Basically she'd like to just change the lockscreen and maybe the launcher. I am very capable but getting frustrated trying to find stuff for my specific device. I read about a special cable. Is it still required or are there ways to do change the stuff without root and heavy altering?
I tried a few launchers but it just force closes. Any help would be awesome.

Bump? Any help, ie thread links, would be awesome.
The naming scheme of these and they way they are all thrown into 1 forum is super complicated to figure out what process works for which model. This might be a stupid question but some answers would be appreciated.

HD7 4th Gen w. 5.1.2 - easiest way to get Google Play store only, no other tweaks

I originally posted this in the Fire HD forum, but was told the most up to date procedure was probably here. Is that true?
My situation is this. My main Fire is a Fire 5th Gen (the $49 one), and I got comfortable with using it JUST with Google Play installed and no other tweaks. I used the Rootjunky Supertool program and ADB to do that under 5.1.1.
I just got, as a secondary device, a used HD7 4th Gen. The previous owner must have had it upgrade to 5.1.2 recently, because that's what it came with. I'm aware that there are (probably even more reliable that with the 5th Gen) ways to back-apply FireOS4 and get the thing rooted without bricking it, but... at this point I'm not ready for that. Like with my Gen5 I just want Google Play on it.
What I don't know is if the current tools around to do that (like the Supertool) will WORK with an HD7 4th Gen and 5.1.2. I've been told in a general sort of manner that the procedure just to get a non-rooted Play store install should be "the same" as for the 5th Gen device, but that doesn't say to me that the Supertool would work. Or does it (since it just says "5th Generation" on it's descriptions)? And if not, what other took or script does?
I will say I already have Developer Mode and ADB access turned on, and even have a copy of ES File Manager from the Amazon Store on the HD7-4thGen, suspecting that one or both of those would come in handy. So what's next?
Thanks!

I just purchased a Fire that came preloaded with 5.1.2. I can confirm SuperTool installed Google Apps just fine. Google prompted me to upgrade the services framework which worked without a hitch. I've not tried anything else yet such as removing ads, and we already know root doesn't work in 5.1.2 yet.
Some Play Store apps may not work, or may be quirky if they do but that is par for the course with Amazon devices that haven't been reimaged to a "real" Android OS.

snark.shark said:
I originally posted this in the Fire HD forum, but was told the most up to date procedure was probably here. Is that true?
My situation is this. My main Fire is a Fire 5th Gen (the $49 one), and I got comfortable with using it JUST with Google Play installed and no other tweaks. I used the Rootjunky Supertool program and ADB to do that under 5.1.1.
I just got, as a secondary device, a used HD7 4th Gen. The previous owner must have had it upgrade to 5.1.2 recently, because that's what it came with. I'm aware that there are (probably even more reliable that with the 5th Gen) ways to back-apply FireOS4 and get the thing rooted without bricking it, but... at this point I'm not ready for that. Like with my Gen5 I just want Google Play on it.
What I don't know is if the current tools around to do that (like the Supertool) will WORK with an HD7 4th Gen and 5.1.2. I've been told in a general sort of manner that the procedure just to get a non-rooted Play store install should be "the same" as for the 5th Gen device, but that doesn't say to me that the Supertool would work. Or does it (since it just says "5th Generation" on it's descriptions)? And if not, what other took or script does?
I will say I already have Developer Mode and ADB access turned on, and even have a copy of ES File Manager from the Amazon Store on the HD7-4thGen, suspecting that one or both of those would come in handy. So what's next?
Thanks!
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I don't think anyone here is going to stick their neck out to answer an off-topic question. If you want to know if it works try it! Otherwise the Fire HD forum is your best resource.

Davey126 said:
I don't think anyone here is going to stick their neck out to answer an off-topic question. If you want to know if it works try it! Otherwise the Fire HD forum is your best resource.
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Funny how that works, when someone there used virtually the identical wording to point me HERE:
bibikalka said:
Your best bet is to go to the Gen 5 XDA forum:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire
The devices are literally identical if you want rootless GAPPS. So look for what's offered there.
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snark.shark said:
Funny how that works, when someone there used virtually the identical wording to point me HERE:
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- devices are not "literally identical" - not even close
- HD 7 is clearly off-topic for this forum

Davey126 said:
- devices are not "literally identical" - not even close
- HD 7 is clearly off-topic for this forum
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I went back there and asked again, so we'll see what happens.
It boggles my mind that nobody there would have tested installing Play on one of the 4thGen devices (without all of the rooting shenanigans I mean). But that seems to be what's being implied--literally nobody knows if it works.
Heck, looking around here I'm not sure if anyone knows if it works still under 5.1.2 with the 5th Gen device (which I also have). My 5th Gen updated 5.1.1 to 5.1.2 (because I hadn't blocked OTA updates--and just had Play installed and no root). Play still worked after the update, but it's really got me curious if the Rootjunky tool even still works under 5.1.2 (aside from the rooting stuff, which I know doesn't).
EDIT - sorry, just saw zerbey's post up there. I'm assuming zerbey means with a 5th Gen device, so that's answered. Since my 5th Gen already had Play from 5.1.1 it was just curiosity driving that question either (although it also occurred to me it might be nice to know in case there is ever a reason to reinstall Play). As for the 4th Gen device, was there ever even an equivalent to the supertool (even if less automated)? That's part of what I've been trying to find out, and I'm supposing why that person pointed me to this forum. But as I've said I've gone back there and asked again.

snark.shark said:
I went back there and asked again, so we'll see what happens.
It boggles my mind that nobody there would have tested installing Play on one of the 4thGen devices (without all of the rooting shenanigans I mean). But that seems to be what's being implied--literally nobody knows if it works.
Heck, looking around here I'm not sure if anyone knows if it works still under 5.1.2 with the 5th Gen device (which I also have). My 5th Gen updated 5.1.1 to 5.1.2 (because I hadn't blocked OTA updates--and just had Play installed and no root). Play still worked after the update, but it's really got me curious if the Rootjunky tool even still works under 5.1.2 (aside from the rooting stuff, which I know doesn't).
EDIT - sorry, just saw zerbey's post up there. I'm assuming zerbey means with a 5th Gen device, so that's answered. Since my 5th Gen already had Play from 5.1.1 it was just curiosity driving that question either (although it also occurred to me it might be nice to know in case there is ever a reason to reinstall Play). As for the 4th Gen device, was there ever even an equivalent to the supertool (even if less automated)? That's part of what I've been trying to find out, and I'm supposing why that person pointed me to this forum. But as I've said I've gone back there and asked again.
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In general FireOS v4 and Google Play Services don't play nice together. The combo can be made to work, sort of, but each refresh seems to bring new challenges. Blocking component updates is frustrating as apps are increasingly dependent on current/recent versions of Play Services. FireOS v5 appears to be more accommodating.

Davey126 said:
In general FireOS v4 and Google Play Services don't play nice together. The combo can be made to work, sort of, but each refresh seems to bring new challenges. Blocking component updates is frustrating as apps are increasingly dependent on current/recent versions of Play Services. FireOS v5 appears to be more accommodating.
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I'm not talking about FireOS4. I'm talking about the 4th Gen device (HD7-Gen4) with 5.1.2 on it, and wanting just Play Store without root. Again, I know the primary place to ask about that is the HD forum, but because of a bum answer there that insisted that someone here might know the specific tools better (because they tend to root everything in that forum by default, I guess, and seem to think the procedure to add Play should be the same), that's how this got posted here.
Actually I just had an answer in the other forum that again insisted nobody there knows squat about adding Play to the HD7 without rooting, so... I guess I'm likely stuck rooting the damn thing (which also means backapplying FireOS4--the part that scares me).

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I'm not talking about FireOS4. I'm talking about the 4th Gen device (HD7-Gen4) with 5.1.2 on it, and wanting just Play Store without root. Again, I know the primary place to ask about that is the HD forum, but because of a bum answer there that insisted that someone here might know the specific tools better (because they tend to root everything in that forum by default, I guess, and seem to think the procedure to add Play should be the same), that's how this got posted here.
Actually I just had an answer in the other forum that again insisted nobody there knows squat about adding Play to the HD7 without rooting, so... I guess I'm likely stuck rooting the damn thing (which also means backapplying FireOS4--the part that scares me).
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I forgot 4th gen devices were upgraded to FireOS 5. A consequence of trying to provide assistance for another device type that is not typically discussed in a 5th gen device forum. I hang my head in shame for misunderstanding your off-topic question.

snark.shark said:
I'm not talking about FireOS4. I'm talking about the 4th Gen device (HD7-Gen4) with 5.1.2 on it, and wanting just Play Store without root. Again, I know the primary place to ask about that is the HD forum, but because of a bum answer there that insisted that someone here might know the specific tools better (because they tend to root everything in that forum by default, I guess, and seem to think the procedure to add Play should be the same), that's how this got posted here.
Actually I just had an answer in the other forum that again insisted nobody there knows squat about adding Play to the HD7 without rooting, so... I guess I'm likely stuck rooting the damn thing (which also means backapplying FireOS4--the part that scares me).
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/fire-hd/general/how-to-google-play-store-root-fast-easy-t3226960
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Brand new Fire HD7 - anything I should be careful about?

Hello!
I'm sure this question has been asked and answered before, but I couldn't find anything recent enough to be trustworthy.
Topic pretty much says it all: I just got a Kindle Fire 7 and want to make sure I don't inadvertently sabotage myself later on down the line. What's the best way to ensure I'm getting the essentials (Play Store, no tracking, etc) and not going to be pulling down automatic updates that might screw me out of rooting later on down the road (if a root ever manifests)?

hmmm Fire HD 7? I do not believe there is such thing, there is either a Fire 7 (5th or 7th Generation) and a Fire HD 8.
So make sure you know the exact model you have. And the first thing you should do with it, it not letting it connect to internet.
Once you know which one you have, well, then it all depends on what you want to do with it. Check these links, which should cover all your questions and more:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/help/help-thread-question-noob-friendly-t3205441
https://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/help/help-thread-7th-gen-2017ask-question-t3636919
https://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/general/tool-amazon-fire-7-7gen-fire-os-5-6-x-t3815112